Canadian Para Smocks

[Jabroni]

Does anyone know where to buy one of these?

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~camouflage/image/canadian_para_jacket.jpg

http://www.bdlltd.com/

[East Scout]

Niffty...Is it the camo pattern, style/fit/cut or that its canadian or all three that appeals to you? I know where you can get some British jackets for right cheap here in the US that are that same style if you're interested.....If not np..Good luck in your search.

ES

[maple.leaf]

Supply Sergeant is the only source I know of: http://www.compusmart.ab.ca/spplsgt/Can_Summer.htm

I had one of these years ago, its a nice smock.

[East Scout]

200$? Fuk me run'n! ...Brit DPMs smock (from 66 to soldier95) can be had on the net here for under 20$..Im not hacken your taste or your want just that price.....Nice look'n smock though! Good luck on your search..

ES

[James]

http://www.dropzonetactical.com/clothing/reccesmock.html

[Jabroni]

Found some more stuff about it, It can still be worn in British Service since it is almost identical and from a British Commonwealth Country

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6193/jumpsmock11tm.jpg
http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/2959/jumpsmock22cd.jpg
http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/1522/jumpsmock34zg.jpg
http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/7691/jumpsmock44gu.jpg
http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/8186/jumpsmock56uk.jpg
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/606/jumpsmock60zj.jpg
The back pocket is a stash for the whole Smock so it can be packed into a small bag, Nifty eh!
Buy them from
http://www.globalarmysurplus.com/
Or EBay
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/9290/jumpsmock0my.jpg
http://www.mpmuseum.org/postwar.html[/quote]

[ICUS]

Does anyone know where to buy one of these?

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~camouflage/image/canadian_para_jacket.jpg

Jabroni,

Both surplus and unissued Canadian DPM parachutist smocks were plastered all over Ebay for several years. I suspect the supply is starting to dry up, but if I were looking for one that is the place I would check first. If you are a Canadian, or travel to Canada frequently, you might also scour the local surplus stores as there are bound to be some of these out there.

The $200 asking price from Supply Sergeant is, in my humble opinion, at least twice what you should even consider paying for a smock like this. These were available in the $35-50 range, unissued, not two years ago.

[Yeoman]

I paid a hundred for mine when I use to have one, but it also came with all the proper badges (you know how hard it is to actually find a set of CAR shoulder tabs?!?).
if anyone can find me that OD version, bloody well tell me! I'd love to add that to the collection of canadian para stuff I've got going on.
Greg

[maple.leaf]

FYI - the ones from Supply Sergeant are UNISSUED, not USED.

[Bzzliteyr]

Has anyone ever seen anyone wearing one of those recce smocks?? From Dropzone?

[DnA]

Has anyone ever seen anyone wearing one of those recce smocks?? From Dropzone?


On a Brigade Ex I was on awhile ago, there were some cops(VPD) on it, some of them had the Recce smock. Only guys I've seen wear it.

[Jabroni]

If you are a Canadian, or travel to Canada frequently, you might also scour the local surplus stores as there are bound to be some of these out there. [/quote]

As soon as the Canadian Airborne Regiment(CAR) disbanded in 1995, All the remaining batches should have been shipped to Britain and become a use to British Paratroops. It would be better than them floating around as surplus

Im British myself, Our Para Smocks are good but i find these ones a decent piece of kit.

[Bzzliteyr]

Jabroni, why would you think they'd be shipped to Britain? What sources suggest that? As far as I know, the Canadian military is independant and kit is not shared amongst countries, be it commonwealth or other.

DNA, you mean the people playing the "badguys"? Cause I can't imagine anyone getting away with wearing those at the unit level.

[DnA]

No, Vancouver Police not Soldiers.

A group of Vancouver Cops(dunno if any other PDs sent officers out or not) went along with I think some Infantry an MPs for Cordon an Search Operations an some other things during the Ex. Some of the Police Officers had on the Recce Smock, never saw any Soldiers wear it.

[maple.leaf]

As soon as the Canadian Airborne Regiment(CAR) disbanded in 1995, All the remaining batches should have been shipped to Britain and become a use to British Paratroops.

You got any proof of that? I'm tempted to say "utter bollocks" - I know a lot of guys that are paras and all they get issued is the British DPM Para Smock. I've even seen a single photo of a Brit para wearing a Canadian smock.

At the very least, the DPM pattern and colours are different between the Canadian and British smocks.

And yes, Canada is a completely independent country and its military does not share gear with the British Army.

[Bzzliteyr]

DnA, roger that. I wasn't sure what you meant by VPD.. was thinking it may have been a nickname for the OPFOR...

[hammerlock]

Canadian DPM parachutist smocks, are no in anyway close to British DPM para smocks. Jabroni, your just spilling misinformation.

take at look at the canadian and then the british, apart from it being DPM they are no same in any way. And if you were a british para, wearing one you would be jacked on the spot. If you don't know what your talking about, don't make it up here.

[Jabroni]

I do sort of see the difference, But i still think the CDN Version is the closest thing to it
http://www.army-surplus.co.uk/Merchant2/images/jkt02.jpg
It has some features like stashing itself into a bag


http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/7523/pict01739tt.jpg

An Internal Hood
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2429/pict01756is.jpg

Reinforced Elbows
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/2406/pict01762dg.jpg

'Lift The Dot' Fastners ideal for freefallers
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9558/pict01775lc.jpg

Has 'Soldier 95' Type Buttons
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/292/pict01781gc.jpg

The Camo is slightly diffferent i admit, It has more tan than green. Ok its no good to wear foreign uniforms in your own Army but Canada being a British Commonwealth Country(Or Was), The Jacket being similar to the British Version, I see it a decent piece of kit that would appeal to British Paras/Pathfinders/SAS. Or could lead to the next pattern Para Smock?

Maybe it could be used in the Paras Pathfinder Platoon?, They might find a use for it.

[ICUS]

The Camo is slightly diffferent i admit, It has more tan than green. Ok its no good to wear foreign uniforms in your own Army but Canada being a British Commonwealth Country(Or Was), The Jacket being similar to the British Version, I see it a decent piece of kit that would appeal to British Paras/Pathfinders/SAS. Or could lead to the next pattern Para Smock?

Some of us refer to the Canadian DPM pattern as "reversed DPM" due to the inverse ratio of tan to green. The pattern was also trialed as a combat uniform for the Canadian Army (same cut as the Canadian OD combats) and there were short-lived windproof trousers as well, but the former was never adopted and surplus stocks were eventually sold to the Tanzanian government of all places.

[maple.leaf]

Jabroni - you're still living in dreamland... It might be closer to a Brit para smock than a woodland pattern M65 jacket is; but that's about it. Its still a VERY different piece of kit and the fact that Canada belongs to the Commonwealth doesn't mean anything. If your reasoning were correct, then why does the Canadian Army use a variation of the M16 and the British Army uses the SA80?

Finally, the Canadian smock doesn't use Soldier 95 style buttons; the Soldier 95 kit uses Canadian style buttons.

[Bzzliteyr]

Actually, I believe the SAS now use the Canadian Diemaco (Colt Canada) made C-7 and C-8, correct?

As for the comments by Jabroni, I am suspecting he is a young uninformed individual that needs to lurk for a bit before he starts spewing unfounded comments.

[maple.leaf]

Actually, I believe the SAS now use the Canadian Diemaco (Colt Canada) made C-7 and C-8, correct?

Being Special Forces, that's their perogative. The rest of the Army uses the standard issue SA80A2.