Denison Smock

[East Scout]

Im wanting to get a Dension smock..Who used them? Im guessing the Dutch, British and Canadians...What would be the cheapest route to go..I dont want a collectors piece just one to use this year when Fall comes ......

Im doing my own search but I have no clue what is what and who made what and the different patterns etc etc etc......

Any help or a just "go to hell" would be appriciated..

ES

[East Scout]

I guess its called a Dension Smock..LOL...

ES

[James]

http://www.dropzonetactical.com/clothing/reccesmock.html
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6632909227&category=4074
http://search.ebay.com/denison-smock_W0QQfnuZ1QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ3QQxpufuZx

There's an amazing internet search engine called "Google". Type in "Denison Smock" and hit enter. It's very helpful.

[East Scout]

I tried AOL and thats Google supported..Dont be a smart ass....I got nothing...........and thanks..;-)

[dez000]

I got one of them Belgian ones!

[East Scout]

Wow i had no clue they cost so much..Thought they were used till the late 70s early 80s and they'd be pretty comman.........Guess they became rare over time..

ES

[DeltaWhisky58]

I tried AOL and thats Google supported..Dont be a smart ass....I got nothing...........and thanks..;-)

You won't - it's spelled D-E-N-I-S-O-N and not Dension

Google Denison Smock (http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GEUA,GEUA:2006-02,GEUA:en&q=denison+smock)

The Denison was used until the mid-late 70s by the British Army/RM until it was replaced by the DPM Para Smock.

A new (repro) 1959 Denison will cost you about £150.00 from Silvermans (http://www.silvermans.co.uk/Silver/docs/topframe.htm) in London. A real one can cost £450.00 - £750.00 depending on vintage/pattern!!! Belgian Denisons are often cheapest. Beware of modern US copies.

[East Scout]

DW,
Humm.. James called it amazing as did you....If you want to take a wack at me w/ kindergarten under the table insaults save you time and try asking a more senseable and far more productive question about my search..Ive been here quite a while and being a MOD you should know this and shoudl be aware Im not one to waste peoples time....

I'll educate you as to my problem to save you from further future interuptions to your day....I wasnt even sure i had the name of the smock correct for starters and AOL/Google gave me nothing..I tried a search here and only recieved my own post..... Im on a new Dial-Up server so I wasnt even sure my PC info was going out correctly..Now I hope this information I've provided suits your list of reasonable mishaps causeing one to ask a question here in the Equipment and Gear Forum..If not I cant be held responsable for what you assume to be my mistake...In the future I'll post what Im asking and a complete list or reason WHY Im asking as to suit your taste..

And thank you very much for the information and history of the smock..I had no information about them on my PC and no book here at the house to help me...LAt time I saw one was Harrison Ford wearing one in a war movie and that drawing I provided..

Regards
East Scout.....

[Buckeye67]

An original Denison smock (of the WW2 variety) will set you back huge amounts. I've seen them go (on ebay) for upwards of $700.

You can find repro smocks at places like whatpriceglory.com (http://www.whatpriceglory.com/uklist.htm scroll down toward the bottom for Denisons). They're constructed well enough, but they just don't look (to me) to be quite "right", if you know what I mean. Something about how the camo pattern is reproduced just doesn't seem to match the originals.

Something you may want to consider is the '44 Pattern Windproof Smock. You can find decent repros here and there and here on Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/BRITISH-SAS-1940-WINDPROOF-CAMMO-SMOCK-1940-REMAKE_W0QQitemZ170003544171QQihZ007QQcategoryZ112471QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem).

I have a pair of original '44 pattern pants and the pattern on the repro smock is spot on. I've been holding out for an original smock to complete the set, but they're pretty much cost prohibitive as well, so I'm thinking about getting one of the repros.

Honestly though, were I looking for inexpensive fall camo, I'd go with the old Austrian flecktarn stuff or just stick with the East German stuff. An oversize NVA falli smock would be just the ticket, and a fair bit less expensive.

[East Scout]

I have an Austrian smock and I have a repro Fj smock but I love the fit of british smocks....But since the price is so high I think I may as well look for a used repro.Thanks again Buckeye..You've been a help again.......Have a good holiday weekend.........

ES

[Jabroni]

I have just recently sold a 59 Pattern Denison Smock dated 1966 with a pair of Combat 60 Pattern fatigues(Not the Khakis/Lightweights) to go with the set.

The Belgian Para Smock is based on the WW2 'Throw Over' Denison Smock, Some batches were sold to African Countries, Pakistan? and India?

The Iraqis had a DPM Para Smock which was based on the Suez '59' Pattern Smock like the one i had but in DPM.

[DeltaWhisky58]

This is a genuine WW2-vintage Denison taken at The Airborne Forces Museum at Oosterbeek, Holland. The Museum commemorating Operation Market Garden in Sept. 1944

The figure is dressed as a member of The Glider Pilot Regiment of The British Army - the helmet was worn by Glider Pilots who joined the airborne troops following landing.
[Pic © DW58]

[East Scout]

Top notch picture..Couldnt get any clearer than that....I remember on "A Bridge To Far" seeing the Para's wearing them..Blended fantasticly into the terrain...

Thanks for sharing DW..

[ICUS]

Im wanting to get a Dension smock..Who used them? Im guessing the Dutch, British and Canadians...What would be the cheapest route to go..I dont want a collectors piece just one to use this year when Fall comes ......

Im doing my own search but I have no clue what is what and who made what and the different patterns etc etc etc......

Any help or a just "go to hell" would be appriciated..

ES

The British Army created the Denison camouflage parachutist's smock, which was issued exclusively to airborne (including SAS units) and glider units during WW2. It was also issued to Dutch, Belgian, Polish, French and other Allied airborne forces operating in exile and serving alongside their British allies. The 1st Canadian Parachute Battalion also wore the Denison smock during WW2. US Airborne troops, obviously, did not.

The original Denison smock camouflage pattern was painted onto the heavyweight canvas by hand using large mop-like brushes. This is one reason why there is such variation among smocks made during different periods in the war, accounting for fluctuations in dye batches and individual methods of creating the pattern. The Denison smock continued to be produced by the British immediately following the war, which is something a serious collector needs to be aware of as the postwar smocks are extremely difficult to discern from war-era smocks, outside of the date stamps (which are almost always faded and difficult to read, or missing). The prices given in previous posts are fairly accurate if you are looking to invest in an original Denison smock. You may also look for post-war smocks (again, quite often advertised by unscrupulous or unknowledgeable dealers as original war-era) which are generally cheaper, but only by a couple hundred dollars. If you are serious about investing in a smock, it would behoove you to do as much research on original and postwar smocks as you can from the resources available.

The Denison smock was extremely popular with the surviving British airborne forces following the end of WW2, and the British government produced a new version of the smock during the 1950s known as the 59 pattern. This smock differed from the war-era smock in that it had a full zipper down the front (war era smocks were half-zip pullovers, with or without knitted cuffs) and was printed in a more standardized camouflage pattern using a lighter colour scheme. These smocks were worn by members of the Parachute Regiment (and attached support units) well into the 1970s and can be seen in photographs of Paras serving in Ulster during this time period. It was only when the British government created a special DPM camouflage parachutist smock in the 1970s that the Regiment discontinued its use of Denisons. The 59 pattern is quite easy to differentiate from war era Denison smocks, although one should additionally be aware that the 59 pattern smock itself has been reproduced by companies in Asia. British made smocks of any era should be tagged and stamped, although due to their age often times these are missing from or faded on the older smocks.

Reproduction WW2 era camouflage Denison smocks are now being made with a lot of attention to detail and are quite well constructed from materials as close to the originals as possible. I have heard those from King & Country are some of the most faithful to originals (although that is probably a matter of opinion), but the What Price Glory models are more readily available here in the States and are good also.

Some folks have suggested Belgian 1950s era brushstroke camouflage smocks as a good alternative to an original, but in my opinion they are extremely poor substitutes to the originals. There is nothing wrong with the Belgian smock, it is just quite different from the war era British smocks. The cloth is much ligher weight, the camouflage pattern is only moderately based on the original British version, and the construction of the smock is significantly different as well. They are probably the cheapest alternative, however, if investment cost is a consideration.

Cheers,

ICUS

[gaijinsamurai]

Buckeye67 recommended "What Price Glory?" and I'd have to concur. I've bought a lot of stuff from that source, and the owner, a retired US Army major named Jerry Lee, is very pleasant and easy to deal with. I used to have a repro Denison Smock (purchased from "King and Country", but I don't think they make them anymore), and they are nice.
If you want one for everyday/field wear, a repro is a nice alternative to shelling out the big bucks for an original.
Good luck.

[Royal]

The British Army created the Denison camouflage parachutist's smock, which was issued exclusively to airborne (including SAS units) and glider units during WW2.

It was also issued to some Commando units - 30 Commando/AU being the first example I've pulled off my book shelf. I've also seen pictures of individual's from other (non-Airborne) units wearing them in France, the Low Countries and Germany in '44/45.


The Denison smock was extremely popular with the surviving British airborne forces following the end of WW2, and the British government produced a new version of the smock during the 1950s known as the 59 pattern. This smock differed from the war-era smock in that it had a full zipper down the front (war era smocks were half-zip pullovers, with or without knitted cuffs) and was printed in a more standardized camouflage pattern using a lighter colour scheme.

The same photo (RM members of 30 AU in Germany in the spring of 1945) clearly shows full length zips.


It was only when the British government created a special DPM camouflage parachutist smock in the 1980s that the Regiment discontinued its use of Denisons.

The DPM para smock was in service long before the Falklands war of 1982.

[Buckeye67]

Hey ES,

I was perusing the brit airborne forum over at one of the WW2 reenactors sites I read, and there was a thread about Denisons (as you can imagine). One of the guys there posted this link:

http://www.militarytour.com/Reproductions/WW11/CdnBritish/Smock.htm

That looks like a top notch Denison repro. It's a bit pricey compared to WPG, but it seems to be a fairly accurate repro. It seems to be fairly highly regarded by the reenactors over there. If it's built anything like an original - it'll outlast us. p-)

[maple.leaf]

I won't reiterate the history which others have covered already - except to clarify that the Denison was issued during the war to Canadian, British, Dutch, French and Polish airborne troops (including glider infantry and also the SAS after their almalgamation into the Airborne Forces Command in 1943), Army commandos and Army snipers.

I have some experience with the different repros as I re-enact the 1st Canadian Parachute Battalion and also belong to The Pathfinder Parachute Group (who recreate WWII airborne forces for the purposes of commemorative parachute jumps). Jerry Lee of What Price Glory? is a great guy and his Denisons aren't bad - but unless he's had the colours changed, they need a lot of treating to look right. The ones from King and Country are pretty good - but the fit through the shoulders/upper arms is too narrow, and the snaps have a serious tendency to pull through the material. The absolutely best ones available on the market today are the ones from Lava Designs - they are spot on in every detail.

On that last point - I found a 1948-dated second pattern smock (i.e., the type issued in 1944) at a flea market in London about 4 years ago for £12. It was mixed in with a load of old second-hand civilian clothing and the stall holder clearly had no idea of what she was dealing with. So of course I had to relieve her of it.
p-)

[East Scout]

Thanks for th history lesson folks.....What a great responce. Absolutely fantastic!

.Buckeye..Strait shooting pal...That price is do-able for my birthday..Id never get it past the wife just becuase..LOL

Thanks

ES

[East Scout]

I had a pup tent in that very same pattern.......Dutch i think it was. Fricken heavy thing..Its still where i put it up 3 years ago unless someone liberated it..

ES

[maple.leaf]

http://www.militarytour.com/Reproductions/WW11/CdnBritish/Smock.htm


That's a King & Country repro.

This is a Belgian variation:

http://www.surplusandoutdoors.com/ishop/images/877/DENNISON-STYLE-SMOCK.jpg

And this is the Radar Clothing reproduction (aka, Lava Designs) - the best repro Denison available today:

http://www.radarclothing.com/DENISON-SMOCK-FOR-WEB.gif

http://www.radarclothing.com/dennison_smock.htm

[Buckeye67]

Yeah, the reenactor folks said that it was a "modified" K&C repro, but didn't mention specifically what was modified about it.

They mentioned the folks at Lava too, but according to them - Lava's not making smocks anymore?

They seemed to think that the militarytour smock was the best one that'd be most easily acquired by folks on this side of the pond. Edit: At $275CAD + $9 s/h from Canada vs £225 + s/h from the UK, I think they're probably right on that.

Edit2: Just for kicks, here's my repro '58 Pattern Denison:
http://img86.exs.cx/img86/2029/densmock3nb.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

[gaijinsamurai]

Does King and Country still make Denison smocks? I was under the impression that Harlan Glenn (the company owner) had switched to doing WWII USMC stuff.
The K&C smock I had was one of the best pieces of clothing I've ever owned, and I regret selling it.
I bought it for reenacting. I never ended up wearing it for that purpose, but used it almost everywhere else!

[maple.leaf]

Does King and Country still make Denison smocks? I was under the impression that Harlan Glenn (the company owner) had switched to doing WWII USMC stuff.


That is correct.

And to clarify the other point - Lava Designs did the R&D for the 2nd Pattern smock, but its Radar Clothing that are manufacturing and selling them.

[ICUS]

It was also issued to some Commando units - 30 Commando/AU being the first example I've pulled off my book shelf. I've also seen pictures of individual's from other (non-Airborne) units wearing them in France, the Low Countries and Germany in '44/45.

Yes, that is correct. Some Commando units were issued the Denison, and I'm sure examples of non-Airborne units wearing them can be cited, but the garment was created for airborne troops and saw general, widespread use to them, as opposed to infantry of the line, etc.


The same photo (RM members of 30 AU in Germany in the spring of 1945) clearly shows full length zips.

The war-era smocks were issued with half-length zippers. Some Denisons were modified for a full-length zipper by their owners, and of course the olive green oversmock (non-camouflage) did have a full-length zipper and is easy to confuse with the Denison in b&w photgraphs, especially if the wearer is loaded down with equipment. My post-war (1946) Denison also has a half-length zipper.




The DPM para smock was in service long before the Falklands war of 1982.

The first pattern DPM para smock was introduced in 1977.

[East Scout]

Yeah, the reenactor folks said that it was a "modified" K&C repro, but didn't mention specifically what was modified about it.

They mentioned the folks at Lava too, but according to them - Lava's not making smocks anymore?

They seemed to think that the militarytour smock was the best one that'd be most easily acquired by folks on this side of the pond. Edit: At $275CAD + $9 s/h from Canada vs £225 + s/h from the UK, I think they're probably right on that.

Edit2: Just for kicks, here's my repro '58 Pattern Denison:
http://img86.exs.cx/img86/2029/densmock3nb.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

Kicks butt....what ya take in trade?

jk

ES

[Royal]

It was only when the British government created a special DPM camouflage parachutist smock in the 1980s that the Regiment discontinued its use of Denisons.


The first pattern DPM para smock was introduced in 1977.

Which? I take it that you're saying I'm right? ;)

The 30 AU photo I referred to shows 8 members of X Troop 30 AU (7 RMs - 1 probable RM - his beret badge is obscured by goggles) in Germany in May '45. All wear what appears to be Denison smocks - at least 4 show obvious cammouflage splashes. Only 2 show the over the head style zip - other than pistol belts and bandoliers the men are not wearing web gear. I find it difficult to believe that 3 quarters of a group that had been pretty much continuosly deployed since D Day (the day they landed) had time time to get their smocks privately tailored...

But you may be right.

[maple.leaf]

I find it difficult to believe that 3 quarters of a group that had been pretty much continuosly deployed since D Day (the day they landed) had time time to get their smocks privately tailored...

They probably had it done before they got deployed. The smock was issued with only a half-zip - but many guys got them immediately modified at unit level. Remember, back in those days the QM detachment included cobblers and tailors in order to "make do and mend". In many cases, they simply removed the zips from the OG over-smocks and sewed them into the Denison's, since most of the time the over-smocks weren't used. The Canadian paras were also fond of taking the elasticated Mills Bomb pouches off of the OG over-smock and having them sewn onto the lower sides of their Denisons.

[East Scout]

Did they make trousers in the same camo after the war? I have a picture here in my book of an SAS guy wearing the smock searching a guy wearing the trousers..


ES

[ICUS]

Did they make trousers in the same camo after the war? I have a picture here in my book of an SAS guy wearing the smock searching a guy wearing the trousers..obviously both not belonging to one or the other..

ES

Those are the Camouflage Windproof items, introduced in 1943. The Windproofs camouflage pattern is similar to that of the Denison airborne smock, but they are different articles of clothing. The Denison was an oversized smock designed to be worn over the battledress uniform and made from heavyweight material, whereas the windproofs were made from lighterweight cloth (although also originally designed to be worn over battledress) and were issued as a set of smock and overtrousers. The windproof smock featured four buttoning pockets and a drawstring hood, whilst the trousers had a reinforced gusset in the crotch, large map pocket on the left front leg, and a heavy drawstring sash or belt. After WW2 and following the reformation of the Special Air Service, the smocks became highly-prized and sought after by members of The Regiment and can often be seen in photographs of SAS members well into the 1970s.

[oldsoak]

The SAS pattern windproof was also used in Indochina where the French called them "sausage skins" - probably from the predominant shade of brown.

There was also an officer pattern of denison with a knitted collar.

[Jabroni]

There was also an officer pattern of denison with a knitted collar.

http://www.arnhemarchive.org/Biog/Roy_Urquhart_7.jpg

I seen that worn by an officer posing on some picture, I think it could have been General Brownong or Major General Urquhart? Well one of the top blokes anyway

I seen somthing like that on EBay, Its like the '59' Full Zip Version , Did some of them have Storm Flaps over the Zip?

Are they still being made as Repros?

If anyone has photies of them, Scan them up

[Buckeye67]

Did they make trousers in the same camo after the war? I have a picture here in my book of an SAS guy wearing the smock searching a guy wearing the trousers..


ES

Weren't you paying attention on page 1? :p

http://img86.exs.cx/img86/9209/44pat6ld.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

Yarr. p-)

[Royal]

After WW2 and following the reformation of the Special Air Service, the smocks became highly-prized and sought after by members of The Regiment and can often be seen in photographs of SAS members well into the 1970s.

In the case of the Balkans/Desert version into GWI.

[DeltaWhisky58]

http://www.arnhemarchive.org/Biog/Roy_Urquhart_7.jpg

I seen that worn by an officer posing on some picture, I think it could have been General Brownong or Major General Urquhart? Well one of the top blokes anyway


That "officer posing" as you so crudely put it, is Maj. Gen R E "Roy" Urquhart. It is because of guys like this that you don't speak German and give the nazi salute!

When you've got a combat record like officers of his calibre, then you can make crass comments like that, until then wind yer feckin neck in!

[oldsoak]

Theres also a piccy of GOC 6th airborne div - Major General RN Gale - taken outside his HQ in Normandy wearing the officers issue dennison ( This chap was already an MM earned as a junior officer in WWI, so no shortage of courage there ! ) .
I'm not sure whether the officers issue was large scale. I suspect that quite a few officers were issued the bog standard one.

[Royal]

Theres also a piccy of GOC 6th airborne div - Major General RN Gale - taken outside his HQ in Normandy wearing the officers issue dennison ( This chap was already an MM earned as a junior officer in WWI, so no shortage of courage there ! ) . .

'Windy' Gale was an MC (won as an officer of the Machine Gun Corps in WWI) not an MM.

[oldsoak]

.

'Windy' Gale was an MC (won as an officer of the Machine Gun Corps in WWI) not an MM.

Hes right y'know......I got that wrong.

[baboon6]

How extensive was Royal Marines use of the Denison smock? I know they were worn to an extent in North-West Europe 1944/45 (also by some Army Commandos) and at Suez in 1956. Were they ever a general issue item in the Commandos?

[East Scout]

Weren't you paying attention on page 1? :p

http://img86.exs.cx/img86/9209/44pat6ld.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

Yarr. p-)

Im just a dumb dumb..

ES
Thanx;-)

[SamHamam]

How extensive was Royal Marines use of the Denison smock? I know they were worn to an extent in North-West Europe 1944/45 (also by some Army Commandos) and at Suez in 1956. Were they ever a general issue item in the Commandos?

I can't be certain but it looks like they may have become general issue to the Commando Bdes in NW Europe in late 1944. I've checked a few references and they don't appear to be worn on D Day but in all the pictures of Walcheren and thereafter they seem to be pretty universal.

[RFSU]

Slightly off topic but all the talk of commandos and d-day got me wondering.

RE The Longest Day: Did Lord Lovat really stroll in wearing a white woolly pully carrying a hunting rifle?

[DeltaWhisky58]

He certainly carried a civvie rifle, not sure about the pullover.

[RFSU]

Cheers Delta, I did google it first but there are 1000's of different versions.

I know its arrogant, posh and ridiculously "good chap" British, but there is something respectable about cruising into occupied France with your own hunting rifle, supposedly a cane and white jumper, and your own personal bagpiper. Imagine the Germans, "Who the fvck does this guy think he is?"

[East Scout]

After about a year I finely got a smock..Went to the East Coast Military Vehicle Show today and found some guy that had one he just had laying about. I got it for 55$..Its 1950 issue and needs some repairs but , no worries, I can do it..For what i want it for it perfect. All the snaps are there and work. I jsut replaced the zipper as teh one on it wasnt the original and was kinda junk. I used the zipper from an extra Pattern 84 DPM smock.The front bottom edge is a bit chewed up but a trim and a run under the sewing machine will fix it up..

There were others there in FAR worse condition going for 400$ and up..

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m210/eastscout/Mili%20Show/militaryshow031.jpg

[Sheikh Al Stranghi]

If you want a reproduction brit ww2 denison smock, try WPG as they're one of the best dealers. Could also try http://sofmilitary.co.uk/reenactors/index.asp in England, or ClementsTrading in Holland. http://www.clementstrading.com/Cat-British-AB/Cat-BritishAirborne.html

[iam980]

Dension Smock,

My father stock for many years. Brought from Auction. Photo give you an idea.:hug:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/92304708@N00/530169386/

[Tucker217]

Clements is good but expensive, Was in the shop/Garage a few weeks ago £900 for a full zip £500 for a half zip, Silvermans or ebay is your best bet. I got my half zip denison for £250 from a small dutch shop in Oosterbeek, I think its called 'Oud & Nieuw' but it was the guys last one and its an Arnhem Vet.

Hope Ive helped

217

[SOD]

http://www.epicmilitaria.com/product.php/1445/british-para-denison-camouflage-smock-half-zip

[taiaha]

Did they make trousers in the same camo after the war? I have a picture here in my book of an SAS guy wearing the smock searching a guy wearing the trousers..


ES

I might be wrong but if am not mistaken the British forces that were supposed to participate in Operation ZIPPER (invasion of Malaya) were supposed to be issued with camo shirts and trousers?

[baboon6]

I might be wrong but if am not mistaken the British forces that were supposed to participate in Operation ZIPPER (invasion of Malaya) were supposed to be issued with camo shirts and trousers?

Never heard of that. Would have thought they would have worn the normal jungle greens used in Burma etc. He is probably referring to the camouflage windproofs which have already been covered in detail in this thread- and which contrary to popular belief were not a special forces clothing item, being issued to many units both during WW2 and after.

By the way I have a post-war Denison smock (knitted cuffs, full-length zip), made in the 50s or early 60s, does anyone know if it's worth anything. It's far too small for me...

[Nephilim]

The local surplus shop had those denison smocks and trousers for about 90 euro the piece.

[baboon6]

The local surplus shop had those denison smocks and trousers for about 90 euro the piece.

The smock/trousers combination are not Denison smocks but camouflage windproofs. Different material, different design, camouflage pattern fairly similar. How many times does it have to be written on this forum? Christ!

[Tucker217]

Baboon, You got any pics of your denison? Oh and don't buy repro Denisons from Epicmilitaria you can get the same one and a full zip version on Sofmilitary for £99

[baboon6]

Baboon, You got any pics of your denison? Oh and don't buy repro Denisons from Epicmilitaria you can get the same one and a full zip version on Sofmilitary for £99

I'll take some and post them in the next few days.

[Tucker217]

Ok mate, You thinking of selling it?

[baboon6]

Ok mate, You thinking of selling it?

If it's really worth it. It isn't in the greatest condition so I'm not too hopeful.

[Tucker217]

Mate, If your selling I'm Buying :)

[taiaha]

Never heard of that. Would have thought they would have worn the normal jungle greens used in Burma etc. He is probably referring to the camouflage windproofs which have already been covered in detail in this thread- and which contrary to popular belief were not a special forces clothing item, being issued to many units both during WW2 and after.

By the way I have a post-war Denison smock (knitted cuffs, full-length zip), made in the 50s or early 60s, does anyone know if it's worth anything. It's far too small for me...

Ah, my mistake then. Thanks baboon6

[LineDoggie]

I had one until about 5 years ago. It was in DPM and had the donkey tail piece, knit cuffs and classic styling. It didnt have bellows pockets but was cut like the 59 pattern. Gave it to one of My Nephews.

[Tucker217]

I had one until about 5 years ago. It was in DPM and had the donkey tail piece, knit cuffs and classic styling. It didnt have bellows pockets but was cut like the 59 pattern. Gave it to one of My Nephews.


Yeah its a dpm para smock