AIMPOINT m68 setup...HELP needed

[MatteoTSU77]

hi guys, i need a little help to look for a particular M68 setup in a colt carabine. I need pics as much as possible like a this setup:

http://www.safetysystemscorp.com/foundations/store/images/homepage_head.jpg

as u seen the M68 is placed between the front sight and the carry handle.....it's very strange and i don't know why this setup is use by operator....

i need as many pics as possible......
And if someone colud explain to me the reason for this setup is appiciated!

Thanks to all and sorry for my bad english

[MatteoTSU77]

like this one

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/Special_Forces-Philippines/sf47.jpg

http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/Special_Forces-Philippines/a_sfp48.jpg

[Circle_10]

i need as many pics as possible......
And if someone colud explain to me the reason for this setup is appiciated!



Most liklely the only place to mount an aimpoint on a rifle with a fixed carry handle/rear sight without putting it on top of the handle itself and affecting cheek weld and line of sight.

[HoboWithAK]

I'm not sure, but depending on the mount and spacer/riser, you can get it to co-witness.

[Crewdog]

There is a goosneck mount that is supposed to be used in conjunction with fixed carry handles. if you have any play in your rail system, which from what I understand 1 out of 3 does, then mounting it on the rail is a bad idea. As a good friend of mine said while discusing this same issue, "just because you can does not mean you should."

[SMGLee]

On that particular set up, it is a shot from Buffer tech ad. the gun has a KAC RAS with Aimpoint claw mount and a spacer. This way, the front sight is sitting on the loer half of the optic window.


you can also achive the same setup using the gooseneck mount and the Aimpoint claw mount....

[MatteoTSU77]

On that particular set up, it is a shot from Buffer tech ad. the gun has a KAC RAS with Aimpoint claw mount and a spacer. This way, the front sight is sitting on the loer half of the optic window.


you can also achive the same setup using the gooseneck mount and the Aimpoint claw mount....

yes.....i've understand....i've tried this configuration at the range.....very confortable in short range (less than 50mt).....but when i change the engagement distance: OMG!!! very bad idea!!! do u?

[TH_CYRUS50]

Before i start screaming.
Is this for real steal or Airsoft??
If Airsoft details wil follow.

-Cy

[SMGLee]

This is a real weapon, not an airsoft...


As far as long range shooting, the larger dot of the Aimpont makes it harder to deal with especailly with the sight sitting further out..

this is why I like EOTech a bit better cuz I can use the 1MOA dot for the longer distance shot.

[MatteoTSU77]

Before i start screaming.
Is this for real steal or Airsoft??
If Airsoft details wil follow.

-Cy

no way man, i'm talking about a real stuff!...btw: any other pics? plz plz!!!

[MatteoTSU77]

this is why I like EOTech a bit better cuz I can use the 1MOA dot for the longer distance shot.

Yes i've heard about it...but never tried....i've saw some Greek SF that it use it.

[MatteoTSU77]

oh....thanks to the Aministrator for move my post in the right place:)

[tinkle60]

Pros:

Body of the sight is further away and obscures less of your sight picture.
(doesn't really count) They have no choice because no other BUIS are available apart from the carry handle.

Cons:

Weapon becomes front heavy
The hand guard is not that solid and you are likely to lose zero if you drop the weapon or if the barrel heats up.

[MatteoTSU77]

there it is, bro':

from GREEK

http://greekmilitary.net/Greek%20%20%20Military%20army%20Special%20troops.jpg

http://greekmilitary.net/Greek%20Military%20army%20MYK%20Special%20forces%203.jpg

[Charlie dont surf]

so what your saying here, is if your weapon has a rail on the upper receiver and does not have a carying handle fixed, then that would be the ideal place for such a site?

[MatteoTSU77]

so what your saying here, is if your weapon has a rail on the upper receiver and does not have a carying handle fixed, then that would be the ideal place for such a site?
no, man...i wanna understand the reasonf for some operators uset to put the dot sight between the front sight and the carry handle....some people (experts in Jungle warfare) told me that this sistem is very confortable for shot range engage............but i think that it's very hard to take a good shoot with......do u?

[scrybe]

The only reasons I can think of is that with the older A2 receiver the carry handle is permanantly attached. With an A2 receiver you have two mounting options; in front of the carry handle on a crane neck mount or on the handguards, or on top of the carry handle.

If you mount the Aimpoint in front of the carry handle, you have the same cheeck-weld and you are already looking over the iron sights if the Aimpoint fails. If you mount the Aimpoint on top of the carry handle, the shooter has to compensate for a much higher line of site, adapting a new cheeck weld. This also creates a larger parallax between line of site and actual bullet flight, meaning you lose some accuracy at ranges exceding say 50 yds (rough guesstimate).

Any of that make sense?

EDIT: Oh yea, also, I'm pretty sure the mounts used to place the Aimpoint directly on top of the carry handle obscure your view of the front site post through the rear apature, meaning you would not be able to quick transition to irons without removing the Aimpoint mount first.

[ibstolidude]

no, man...i wanna understand the reasonf for some operators uset to put the dot sight between the front sight and the carry handle....some people (experts in Jungle warfare) told me that this sistem is very confortable for shot range engage............but i think that it's very hard to take a good shoot with......do u?
I am not an "expert in Jungle warfare" however for some time I carried my M4 in a like fashion for several reasons -
- batteries were not as reliable or long lasting & the BUIS I had access to sucked - then bacame habit
- could use a PVS-14 w/out effort or rezeroing
- could remove the handle and use the 68 & PVS-7's in combo at night = the ability to look w/out bringing the weapon to head, but still have a night sight cap
- wanted the 68 for close in - turn it on at times needed/desired but still had both sights

[Durandal]

What I don't understand is why you need more pics.

SMGLee just laid out exactly what you need. Play around with it and get it to work right...

You learn more that way...

[MatteoTSU77]

What I don't understand is why you need more pics.

SMGLee just laid out exactly what you need. Play around with it and get it to work right...

You learn more that way...

i'm doing it......btw, the pics? for my collection!!:)
right now i'm shooting with that sistem it's very hard to learn how take the shot at the range...but i've try it on movement: it's totaly different: very confortable......my experiment continued!!!!