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Brooklyn
07-08-2006, 06:37 PM
I understand why, at least for the most part, we need to keep our web sites and our daily lives insulated from filth. However, someone must explain to me how 'killing', which is the essence of this site, is not "obscene or ****ographic": as it is suggested that this type of material be omitted from conversation. (?)!
Macs.
07-08-2006, 06:40 PM
There is a little X in the right top corner of your window. Click it.
Problem solved.
Fargin
07-08-2006, 06:41 PM
I understand why, at least for the most part, we need to keep our web sites and our daily lives insulated from filth. However, someone must explain to me how 'killing', which is the essence of this site, is not "obscene or ****ographic": as it is suggested that this type of material be omitted from conversation. (?)!
It is. You can't post graphical content with violent and mutilation, like you can't post graphical adult content either.
Killing isn't the essence, military and soldiering is. Soldiers are much more than killers, they protectors of peace, ideals and contires. Anyway ****ographic is not filth. It's an mental hygenic aid, which makes the world a safer place and our hours at work less boring.
Brooklyn
07-08-2006, 06:43 PM
There is a little X in the right top corner of your window. Click it.
Problem solved.
We usually devote more attention to such issues.
Brooklyn
07-08-2006, 06:46 PM
It is. You can't post graphical content with violent and mutilation, like you can't post graphical adult content either.
Good answer. But this whole site is about 'killing', etc.
Fargin
07-08-2006, 06:47 PM
Good answer. But this whole site is about 'killing', etc.
Well....
What's you gonna do about it? ;)
Are you making a point or just ruckus
signatory
07-08-2006, 06:49 PM
Good answer. But this whole site is about 'killing', etc.
not so much now since the Babes thread was shut down
Macs.
07-08-2006, 06:51 PM
What exactly is your point ?
You want to say that the webmaster/people visting this site are immoral because cruel stuff related to military is tolerated and ****ography isn't ?
You want to show us that it tottaly crazy that in todays world military related cruelity is more tolerated then ****ograhpy ?
This is the internet, if you don't like this site or better said its content you gotta life with it. You don't go to a ****o-website and compalin about the ****ography, do you ?
Maine Finn
07-08-2006, 07:05 PM
What exactly is your point ?
You want to say that the webmaster/people visting this site are immoral because cruel stuff related to military is tolerated and ****ography isn't ?
You want to show us that it tottaly crazy that in todays world military related cruelity is more tolerated then ****ograhpy ?
This is the internet, if you don't like this site or better said its content you gotta life with it. You don't go to a ****o-website and compalin about the ****ography, do you ?
By God, he makes sense!
oswald
07-08-2006, 07:18 PM
You don't go to a ****o-website and compalin about the ****ography, do you ?
He just might. :roll:
Brooklyn
07-08-2006, 07:20 PM
It is. You can't post graphical content with violent and mutilation, like you can't post graphical adult content either.
Killing isn't the essence, military and soldiering is. Soldiers are much more than killers, they protectors of peace, ideals and contires. Anyway ****ographic is not filth. It's an mental hygenic aid, which makes the world a safer place and our hours at work less boring.
"****ographic is not filth". It all depends on who is watching. "Hygenic aid". Good enough.
They call it the "Defence Forces". But what do we train to do? ... distribute ice cream? We refer to it as the "Defence Forces" because psychologically it is necessary to indoctrinate our young into thinking that he or she is "defending" something, as opposed to how it might sound giving it to people straight. For example, if we said 'We need to set up shop in the Middle East to teach those Bastards not to f**k with us and to make sure we have access to oil at a relatively cheap price, while continuing to fight the Russians by proxy' does not have the same ring to it as 'The Iraqi people have been suffering from a brutal dictatorship, and we are there, [as heros of course], to bring "Democracy" (there's that word again) and peace to an otherwise violent part of the globe, providing military protection while protecting our access to the natural resources of the region'. The question arises: 'who' is being f***ed in the ass?
cosimo
07-08-2006, 07:24 PM
Brooklyn, why have you come here?
Resurrection
07-08-2006, 07:25 PM
Last time I checked it was called the US Armed Forces.
Worthless thread.
Brooklyn
07-08-2006, 07:28 PM
Brooklyn, why have you come here?
lol, I've been looking for such a board.
Macs.
07-08-2006, 07:31 PM
"
They call it the "Defence Forces". But what do we train to do? ... distribute ice cream? We refer to it as the "Defence Forces" because psychologically it is necessary to indoctrinate our young into thinking that he or she is "defending" something, as opposed to how it might sound giving it to people straight.
What do you call "Defence Forces", "your" military ?
Is the US military official referred to as "Defence Force" ?
For example, if we said 'We need to set up shop in the Middle East to teach those Bastards not to f**k with us and to make sure we have access to oil at a relatively cheap price,
You mean this incredible cheap gas/oil price the western world is experiencing right now ? :roll:
while continuing to fight the Russians by proxy'
I guess you are referring to Iraq, but I don't see how that is a fight against the Russians by proxy... ?
'The Iraqi people have been suffering from a brutal dictatorship, and we are there, [as heros of course], to bring "Democracy" (there's that word again) and peace to an otherwise violent part of the globe, providing military protection while protecting our access to the natural resources of the region'. The question arises: 'who' is being f***ed in the ass?
Welcome to politics.
Fargin
07-08-2006, 07:34 PM
lol, I've been looking for such a board.
Unless you attempt to be more spedific, I'd have to tell you: You're neither making any sense or progress. It's too late for riddles or preaching for that matter.
Maine Finn
07-08-2006, 07:35 PM
"****ographic is not filth". It all depends on who is watching. "Hygenic aid". Good enough.
They call it the "Defence Forces". But what do we train to do? ... distribute ice cream? We refer to it as the "Defence Forces" because psychologically it is necessary to indoctrinate our young into thinking that he or she is "defending" something, as opposed to how it might sound giving it to people straight. For example, if we said 'We need to set up shop in the Middle East to teach those Bastards not to f**k with us and to make sure we have access to oil at a relatively cheap price, while continuing to fight the Russians by proxy' does not have the same ring to it as 'The Iraqi people have been suffering from a brutal dictatorship, and we are there, [as heros of course], to bring "Democracy" (there's that word again) and peace to an otherwise violent part of the globe, providing military protection while protecting our access to the natural resources of the region'. The question arises: 'who' is being f***ed in the ass?
What in the bloody hell are you talking about? 'Psychologically it is necessary to indoctrinate our young into thinking that he or she is "defending" something, as opposed to how it might sound giving it to people straight.'?
I wasn't aware that I joined the "Defence Forces", although I'm fairly certain you're not referring to the US military. Yet still I don't get your point really. Do you have a point?
Brooklyn
07-08-2006, 07:35 PM
What do you call "Defence Forces", "your" military ?
Is the US military official referred to as "Defence Force" ?
You mean this incredible cheap gas/oil price the western world is experiencing right now ? :roll:
I guess you are referring to Iraq, but I don't see how that is a fight against the Russians by proxy... ?
Welcome to politics.
You have a lot to learn. I',m going to eat now. Back soon.
Macs.
07-08-2006, 07:37 PM
You have a lot to learn.
Yes, I am ready to learn from you Mr. Superbrain. woot
LaoSexMachine
07-08-2006, 07:39 PM
Brooklyn, seems like this site is not for you. Go to CindySheehan.net or something.
Maine Finn
07-08-2006, 07:49 PM
Yes, I am ready to learn from you Mr. Superbrain. woot
x2, I would greatly appreciate if you imparted some of your wisdom upon us poor souls.
Perhaps you'd be better off beating your face against a wall.
Brooklyn
07-08-2006, 08:03 PM
x2, I would greatly appreciate if you imparted some of your wisdom upon us poor souls.
Perhaps you'd be better off beating your face against a wall.
"When the student is ready the teacher will appear". We cannot get anything done in a classroom full of egos. If all we have are Indians and no Chiefs we may as well go back, way back, to bearskins & knives. "Cindy Sheehan". God, what an idiot!
I understand why, at least for the most part, we need to keep our web sites and our daily lives insulated from filth. However, someone must explain to me how 'killing', which is the essence of this site, is not "obscene or ****ographic": as it is suggested that this type of material be omitted from conversation. (?)!
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1554
2.5. Don't direct post gory or graphic images. If you must post such things, only provide a regular link with a large warning as to what to expect when someone clicks on it. We're not interested in surprises here. Users that continue to post such images after a warning will be banned.
2.6. Don't use avatars or other imagery that is obscene or sexist. Emphasizing the other part of rule 2.5, nobody on here is looking for surprises. Many of the users here are browsing this site while at work. Having avatars or images with half-naked women/men goes against this idea because even if it's a regular discussion thread, you've now inserted non-work safe imagery into it so people could get in trouble for having it on the screen when co-workers are around. Keep such content on sites that are dedicated to such things, which this site isn't. The mods and I are going to start deleting threads/posts/avatars deemed offensive without warning or explaination from now on as the number of complaints has risen sharply as of late.
I don't see how these rules are at odds with each other.
Brooklyn
07-08-2006, 08:15 PM
I am not suggesting that myself or others post "gory or graphic images". I think the student should do that on his own time, elsewhere. I am however saying that the very topic of 'War' and things Military 'is', in and of itself, '****ographic' in nature, otherwise why would such detailed rules be imposed in the first place?
Maine Finn
07-08-2006, 08:25 PM
"When the student is ready the teacher will appear". We cannot get anything done in a classroom full of egos. If all we have are Indians and no Chiefs we may as well go back, way back, to bearskins & knives. "Cindy Sheehan". God, what an idiot!
Thanks, but I'm already enrolled in a perfectly good school. I certainly don't need your 'teachings' to tell me what I can find out from better instructors.
As for this:
I am not suggesting that myself or others post "gory or graphic images". I think the student should do that on his own time, elsewhere. I am however saying that the very topic of 'War' and things Military 'is', in and of itself, '****ographic' in nature, otherwise why would such detailed rules be imposed in the first place?
Is it, now? What 'student' are you referring to?
I might dispute your statement that things military are ****ographic in nature by pointing out that not all aspects of the military are geared toward killing. Indeed, that's only a part of the military. Of course, I must wrong, because how could the medical, engineering, transportation, finance, aviaton jobs in the military not be '****ographic'? :roll:
I take back the 'perhaps' comment. You should beat your face against the wall.
Macs.
07-08-2006, 08:26 PM
I am not suggesting that myself or others post "gory or graphic images". I think the student should do that on his own time, elsewhere. I am however saying that the very topic of 'War' and things Military 'is', in and of itself, '****ographic' in nature, otherwise why would such detailed rules be imposed in the first place?
I don't know what you imply into that rule, but it means that you shouldn't post videos/pictures containing gore or ****ography. Not more, not less.
It seems that you are implying that everything that is related to military falls under this law because one of the things the military does is "killing" ? (Actually only a part is enforcing that)
God damn, can't you tell me now what exactly your point it ? :roll:
Brooklyn
07-08-2006, 08:34 PM
Thanks, but I'm already enrolled in a perfectly good school. I certainly don't need your 'teachings' to tell me what I can find out from better instructors.
As for this:
Is it, now? What 'student' are you referring to?
I might dispute your statement that things military are ****ographic in nature by pointing out that not all aspects of the military are geared toward killing. Indeed, that's only a part of the military. Of course, I must wrong, because how could the medical, engineering, transportation, finance, aviaton jobs in the military not be '****ographic'? :roll:
I take back the 'perhaps' comment. You should beat your face against the wall.
You are correct. The Military does all that.
Brooklyn
07-08-2006, 08:46 PM
I am referring to reality vs propaganda. I am in effect saying that just because one discovers ones own propaganda, and can see through all the hype and necessary lying to the civilian media, this does not in any way mean that it is "evil" or "wrong". There is one countries propaganda vs another. And just because I point out America's war propaganda, that does not mean that I reject it! So get your head out of your ass!!
Resurrection
07-08-2006, 08:47 PM
Hahaha. You're all over the place, try concentrating your thoughts on one thing.
Macs.
07-08-2006, 08:58 PM
I am referring to reality vs propaganda. I am in effect saying that just because one discovers ones own propaganda, and can see through all the hype and necessary lying to the civilian media, this does not in any way mean that it is "evil" or "wrong". There is one countries propaganda vs another. And just because I point out America's war propaganda, that does not mean that I reject it! So get your head out of your ass!!
What what what ? ... This thread started off as a critic from your side about how this website handles gore - ****ograhpy.
War propaganda ? There sure is such thing, but this website isn't owned by the military, its a privatley owned forum so I don't see the connection.
I also pointed out the mistake from you side about the "war for oil" and "defence force"-thing but you just ignored it.
Maine Finn
07-08-2006, 09:03 PM
You are correct. The Military does all that.
Does it make you feel special to completely mis-read what I posted?
So get your head out of your ass!!
I might say the same to you.
freedomofold
07-08-2006, 09:18 PM
Is there any logic in the original argument? One cannot just waltz into a room and say everyone there is wrong. This student - teacher thing. Everyone always has much to learn. I can assure you, no one is going to learn a thing if you tell them they need to learn what you have to say.
Brooklyn
07-08-2006, 09:25 PM
What what what ? ... This thread started off as a critic from your side about how this website handles gore - ****ograhpy.
War propaganda ? There sure is such thing, but this website isn't owned by the military, its a privatley owned forum so I don't see the connection.
I also pointed out the mistake from you side about the "war for oil" and "defence force"-thing but you just ignored it.
In the media you frequently hear them refer to our Military as "American Defense Forces". OK so lets use Military. We are talking about the same thing. Anyway, this is not what I am talking about. You missed the point. As for the 'oil'. 'Oil', is not the "only" reason why we are fighting in Iraq, but it is a part of the equation. So please do not insult me by telling me that it is not, that is, unless you feel you are a self-appointed spokesman for some propaganda machine, here on the "privately owned", site.
Macs.
07-08-2006, 09:28 PM
As for the 'oil'. 'Oil', is not the "only" reason why we are fighting in Iraq, but it is a part of the equation. So please do not insult me by telling me that it is not, that is, unless you feel you are a self-appointed spokesman for some propaganda machine, here on the "privately owned", site.
Errm, you said the Iraq war is for the gain of "cheap Oil", and I pointed out that Oil these days isn't that cheap... So ?
Just pointed out a simple fact, and you are calling me the "self-appointed spokesman for some propaganda machine" ? :roll:
Resurrection
07-08-2006, 09:30 PM
In the media you frequently hear them refer to our Military as "American Defense Forces".
Sounds like bull****. Can anyone confirm what he's saying?
Fargin
07-08-2006, 09:37 PM
I'm gonna go watch some CSI and eat beaucoup icecream.
Brooklyn
07-08-2006, 09:44 PM
Errm, you said the Iraq war is for the gain of "cheap Oil", and I pointed out that Oil these days isn't that cheap... So ?
Just pointed out a simple fact, and you are calling me the "self-appointed spokesman for some propaganda machine" ? :roll:
Sorry about that, I got ya! That's rediculous anyway. What I said was: 'oil at a relatively cheap price' not that the war is: "For the gain of cheap oil" as you said I said. 'Plus' the fact that that is not 'all' I said, and, that you took it out of context. 'Context': provides background information to illuminate certain details of a word or subject that would otherwise remain innate or barren.
You have the freedom to hallucinate and see only what you wish to see, and others have the right to defend your right to do so. :) Wake up!!
Macs.
07-08-2006, 09:51 PM
What I said was: 'oil at a relatively cheap price' not that the war is: "For the gain of cheap oil" as you said I said.
Is there any real difference ?
'Plus' the fact that that is not 'all' I said, and, that you took it out of context.
Nope, I didn't take it out of context. Please show me the context to that statement.
Brooklyn
07-08-2006, 09:55 PM
Is there any real difference ?
Nope, I didn't take it out of context. Please show me the context to that statement.
I will not! It is now up to you to go back and re-read the original; take a closer look at the punctuation; where the periods are and are not. Otherwise, this "conversation" is over.
Macs.
07-08-2006, 10:07 PM
Seems like this conversation is over.
Brooklyn
07-08-2006, 10:08 PM
'Ego', and military thinking. Terrible combination! I could have 'sworn' that's what we are up against.
Macs.
07-08-2006, 10:10 PM
The problem is, you seem to be very damn cocky.
You come here like you have to tell us stupid idiots whats wrong and whats right.
Resurrection
07-08-2006, 10:11 PM
'Ego', and military thinking. Terrible combination! I could have 'sworn' that's what we are up against.
How about you start making some sense for a change eh?
Brooklyn
07-08-2006, 10:18 PM
The problem is, you seem to be very damn cocky.
You come here like you have to tell us stupid idiots whats wrong and whats right.
I don't know if you are "stupid" or not. But to me it seems obvious that you have a huge Ego and a natural predilection to rebel against authority. Well excuse me ... if I have devoted more thought to certain issues than you have. That doesn't mean that I think I'm better than you. Either your self esteem is low, or you think you know everything there is to know. Doesn't everybody know something that someone else doesn't know? Not you though, you know everything. OK then, teach me something. I am also a student.
Flounder
07-08-2006, 10:20 PM
I am impressed by the fact that ze Cherman Macs is making far more sense and is far more coherent that the person he is arguing against. This is so unlike the "Limobacks" Macs I usually see while lurking on these forums.
Brooklyn reminds me soooo much of Brentmeister. Anybody else see a resemblance?
Chuckie
07-08-2006, 10:22 PM
I don't know if you are "stupid" or not. But to me it seems obvious that you have a huge Ego and a natural predilection to rebel against authority. Well excuse me ... if I have devoted more thought to certain issues than you have. That doesn't mean that I think I'm better than you. Either your self esteem is low, or you think you know everything there is to know. Doesn't everybody know something that someone else doesn't know? Not you though, you know everything. OK then, teach me something. I am also a student.
Please go away, you are giving us all a headache and you've only been here for a couple of hours.
signatory
07-08-2006, 10:23 PM
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3241/stfu16zv.jpg
Macs.
07-08-2006, 10:25 PM
I don't know if you are "stupid" or not. But to me it seems obvious that you have a huge Ego and a natural predilection to rebel against authority.
I have a predilection to rebel against people who talk trash.
Well excuse me ... if I have devoted more thought to certain issues than you have.
Like... what ? :roll:
That doesn't mean that I think I'm better than you. Either your self esteem is low, or you think you know everything there is to know. Doesn't everybody know something that someone else doesn't know? Not you though, you know everything. OK then, teach me something. I am also a student.
Gaaaawwwd...
YOU were the one coming here and telling everyone the real reasons for the Iraq-War (Or atleast, what you think are the real reasons) and how the media is spreading propaganda - Just like someone who thinks he knows everything.
Flounder
07-08-2006, 10:29 PM
That's why he reminds me of Brentmeister so much.
Macs.
07-08-2006, 10:30 PM
I give him one last change, or this thread will turn into insanity.
signatory
07-08-2006, 10:31 PM
I'm sitting here wondering if Brooklyn's mom can give me some milk and cookies too.
Brooklyn
07-08-2006, 10:43 PM
I have a predilection to rebel against people who talk trash.
Like... what ? :roll:
Gaaaawwwd...
YOU were the one coming here and telling everyone the real reasons for the Iraq-War (Or atleast, what you think are the real reasons) and how the media is spreading propaganda - Just like someone who thinks he knows everything.
Give me a break with this "knows everything" Bul***it. Do you always pacify your own lack of humility by putting others on equal footing with yourself?! LOL Is it possible that I know more about the reasons for the war in Iraq than anyone I have spoken to, so far, on this forum? And if I do know more about it, why is it a threat to you guys? Why do you resent it so much? And above all, is your resentment 'my' problem?! I don't think so. So now that you've all grouped against me, does it make you all feel better that you can bond with each other by lynching someone?! LOL, I wouldn't have it any other way. And if I know less about Iraq, then please, inform me! Otherwise you're just a joke.
Macs.
07-08-2006, 10:45 PM
You make no sense Brooklyn.
I try to talk with you but all you do is back off and start to talk about different stuff.
Good Bye.
p.s.
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2425/1005630do.jpg
Aerosoul
07-08-2006, 10:47 PM
brooklyn, this site is not primarily about killing. if you think it is - you're oblivious.
General discussion for military-related topics. the military is not all about killing.
Photos and Videos section for well - military photos and videos. There is a daily pictures thread containing pictures, mostly military related from across the globe.
Political Discussion section - obviously for political discussion.
Military history for history discussion.
Equipment & Gear, Airsoft, and this, the Off-Topic & Humor section.
So, where's the killing section? that's right. there isn't one. there never was, and there never will be.
take your head out of your ass.
and who are you to come here and just start posting what this site's priorites should be?
Aerosoul
07-08-2006, 10:56 PM
Give me a break with this "knows everything" Bul***it. Do you always pacify your own lack of humility by putting others on equal footing with yourself?! LOL Is it possible that I know more about the reasons for the war in Iraq than anyone I have spoken to, so far, on this forum? And if I do know more about it, why is it a threat to you? Why do you resent it so much? And above all, is 'your' resentment 'my' problem?! I don't think so. So now that you've all grouped against me, does it make you feel better that you can bond with each other by lynching someone?! How primitive! LOL, I wouldn't have it any other way. And if I know less about Iraq, then please, inform me! Otherwise you are just a joke.
one day you will realize how stupid you are being right now.
listen to me. get over yourself. do not write that off as a simple statement coming from someone who doesn't like you.
seriously - get over yourself. you are arrogant and close-minded.
signatory
07-08-2006, 11:09 PM
So now that you've all grouped against me, does it make you feel better that you can bond with each other by lynching someone?!
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b266/Rename_Card/stfu_noob.jpg
sir-chimp
07-08-2006, 11:11 PM
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9787/icecream16nz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
mmmmm ice cream
Resurrection
07-08-2006, 11:12 PM
Lynch him, lynch him!
Brooklyn
07-08-2006, 11:17 PM
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b266/Rename_Card/stfu_noob.jpg
You know what you can do!
sir-chimp
07-08-2006, 11:19 PM
You know what you can do!
keep laughing at you?
Brooklyn
07-08-2006, 11:23 PM
keep laughing at you?
I wasn't talking to you.
sir-chimp
07-08-2006, 11:23 PM
I wasn't talking to you.
I was typing at you
Violet Fashion by Mindy
07-08-2006, 11:26 PM
Brooklyn you are not worth the time and effort.
However as probably the most ****ed up person on this board believe me when I say this. What goes on at this site is pretty dam tame.
This site simply provides a centralised news centre for all things involving military. Nothing more nothing less. There is some discussions on politics but as a rule think of it as a centralised news centre.
Death.
07-08-2006, 11:26 PM
Brooklyn I bet you're one of the people that thinks a missile launched by our own government hit the Pentagon, huh?
Don't answer that.
Brooklyn
07-08-2006, 11:29 PM
Brooklyn you are not worth the time and effort.
However as probably the most ****ed up person on this board believe me when I say this. What goes on at this site is pretty dam tame.
This site simply provides a centralised news centre for all things involving military. Nothing more nothing less. There is some discussions on politics but as a rule think of it as a centralised news centre.
Interesting. I will keep that in mind.
Brooklyn
07-08-2006, 11:30 PM
Brooklyn I bet you're one of the people that thinks a missile launched by our own government hit the Pentagon, huh?
Don't answer that.
I think those Sheehan people are out of their minds. You got the wrong impression of me.
Brooklyn
07-08-2006, 11:33 PM
Oh I get it. Ya'll think that politics is not good, and that whoever engages in it blah blah blah. Ahh ... ah haaa. OK, but he 'was' arrested on charge of 'Sedition': a 'Latin' word for 'political insurrection' ... was he not? Opps sorry. I couldn't resist.
Pook2
07-08-2006, 11:35 PM
Brooklyn, you obviously aren't in the military, and never have been. You feel that killing is wrong, and that people who enter into a profession in which killing is a major part are of course dumber than you, or don't realize that killing is wrong. Therefore, you, in your infinite wisdom, feel you need to come and make those in the profession aware that they are wrong. Your ultimate goal here is to get us to "admit" that we are nothing but petty murderers who are of course all high school dropouts who can't think intellectually, and that we should shut down this site and quit our profession because killing is wrong.
My response to you is this. Get a Life. Your ego trip here will not last long for one thing. Secondly, you are an idiot for starting any argument on the internet. Thirdly, you think too much.
The military is for people who can kill. Not people like you. Get the f*ck over it and stop crying. The world sucks, we know, but stop being a b*tch about it.
Death.
07-08-2006, 11:37 PM
Brooklyn, you obviously aren't in the military, and never have been. You feel that killing is wrong, and that people who enter into a profession in which killing is a major part are of course dumber than you, or don't realize that killing is wrong. Therefore, you, in your infinite wisdom, feel you need to come and make those in the profession aware that they are wrong. Your ultimate goal here is to get us to "admit" that we are nothing but petty murderers who are of course all high school dropouts who can't think intellectually, and that we should shut down this site and quit our profession because killing is wrong.
My response to you is this. Get a Life. Your ego trip here will not last long for one thing. Secondly, you are an idiot for starting any argument on the internet. Thirdly, you think too much.
The military is for people who can kill. Not people like you. Get the f*ck over it and stop crying. The world sucks, we know, but stop being a b*tch about it.
Does that mean no http://orlyowl.com/pie.jpg
Nicely put Pook, now let's close this thread, or derail it to something less-moronic.
Brooklyn, if you want answers. Stop asking questions and do something. No - no, do not ride a bike naked through New York.
http://orlyowl.com/gtfo.jpg
sir-chimp
07-08-2006, 11:37 PM
Brooklyn, you obviously aren't in the military, and never have been. You feel that killing is wrong, and that people who enter into a profession in which killing is a major part are of course dumber than you, or don't realize that killing is wrong. Therefore, you, in your infinite wisdom, feel you need to come and make those in the profession aware that they are wrong. Your ultimate goal here is to get us to "admit" that we are nothing but petty murderers who are of course all high school dropouts who can't think intellectually, and that we should shut down this site and quit our profession because killing is wrong.
My response to you is this. Get a Life. Your ego trip here will not last long for one thing. Secondly, you are an idiot for starting any argument on the internet. Thirdly, you think too much.
The military is for people who can kill. Not people like you. Get the f*ck over it and stop crying. The world sucks, we know, but stop being a b*tch about it.
father my children
signatory
07-08-2006, 11:39 PM
Brooklyn under the bridge, have a comfort plopp. It's on me.
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Brooklyn
07-08-2006, 11:42 PM
Brooklyn, you obviously aren't in the military, and never have been. You feel that killing is wrong, and that people who enter into a profession in which killing is a major part are of course dumber than you, or don't realize that killing is wrong. Therefore, you, in your infinite wisdom, feel you need to come and make those in the profession aware that they are wrong. Your ultimate goal here is to get us to "admit" that we are nothing but petty murderers who are of course all high school dropouts who can't think intellectually, and that we should shut down this site and quit our profession because killing is wrong.
My response to you is this. Get a Life. Your ego trip here will not last long for one thing. Secondly, you are an idiot for starting any argument on the internet. Thirdly, you think too much.
The military is for people who can kill. Not people like you. Get the f*ck over it and stop crying. The world sucks, we know, but stop being a b*tch about it.
Oh my God!! This is completely 'opposite' of the way I feel!! There are 'very intelligent' people in the Military. And yes, we need to kill some some people, and no I'm not a fu**ing liberal. You are so wrong about me it isnt funny. My main point is that many people walk around unconscious about what they do and think, and this I 'have' 'had' training in!! So you fu***ng think you know me, much less know the way I think. Very, very wrong indeed!! You are correct about me not being in the military, however.
Death.
07-08-2006, 11:43 PM
Oh my God!! This is completely 'opposite' of the way I feel!! There are 'very intelligent' people in the Military. And yes, we need to kill some some people, and no I'm not a fu**ing liberal. You are so wrong about me it isnt funny. My main point is that many people walk around unconscious about what they do and think, and this I 'have' 'had' training in!! So you fu***ng think you know me, much less know the way I think. Very, very wrong indeed!!
That was almost...completely contradictory to what you have said earlier in this thread.
You came in here acting llike you think you know US, and everyone in the MILITARY.
Skitzo anyone?
Macs.
07-08-2006, 11:44 PM
Keeeeeppppp Rollllllinnnnnnnn'.
Death.
07-08-2006, 11:45 PM
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Brooklyn
07-08-2006, 11:47 PM
That was almost...completely contradictory to what you have said earlier in this thread.
You came in here acting llike you think you know US, and everyone in the MILITARY.
Skitzo anyone?
Ya still don't get it! The point is: to understand your own propaganda, and in 'spite' of it to do what you have to do anyway!! But many people are brainwashed and cant see the forrest through the trees, much less do their own thinking.
signatory
07-08-2006, 11:50 PM
cant see the forrest through the trees, much less do their own thinking.
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Death.
07-08-2006, 11:51 PM
Ya still don't get it! The point is: to understand your own propaganda, and in 'spite' of it to do what you have to do anyway!! But many people are brainwashed and cant see the forrest through the trees, much less do their own thinking.
I do my own thinking. So now you're calling us all stupid and mentally slaves of the "GOVERNMENT!!!!!111!HAX!" because we're proud of our military or some ****?
Stop flip flopping around in your argument...take one thing on at a time and don't move on until it's finished.
Brooklyn
07-09-2006, 12:03 AM
I do my own thinking. So now you're calling us all stupid and mentally slaves of the "GOVERNMENT!!!!!111!HAX!" because we're proud of our military or some ****?
Stop flip flopping around in your argument...take one thing on at a time and don't move on until it's finished.
Maybe some people are content with lies, whether it be religiious or political. Perhaps some people are too young to learn more about the world, and by the time they get out (of the Military) they feel "betrayed" after what they find out. That doesn't mean that their time served was "wrong" or "immoral". It simply means that the whole process crosses several disciplines and they need more time to figure it out. And even if they do finally figure it out, that doesn't mean they will in the end accept it.
There are no absolutes. Some people understand what really goes on, and it stands to reason that some others don't.
Pook2
07-09-2006, 12:04 AM
Maybe some people are content with lies, whether it be religiious or political. Perhaps some people are too young to learn more about the world, and by the time they get out (of the Military) they feel "betrayed" after what they find out. That doesn't mean that their time served was "wrong" or "immoral". It simply means that the whole process crosses several disciplines and they need more time to figure it out. And even if they do finally figure it out, that doesn't mean they will in the end accept it.
There are no absolutes. Some people understand what really goes on, and it stands to reason that some others don't.
There ARE absolutes. You are dead wrong.
Macs.
07-09-2006, 12:11 AM
Some people understand what really goes on, and it stands to reason that some others don't.
And that one who understands what really goes on must be you... :roll:
Brooklyn
07-09-2006, 12:15 AM
Maybe some people are content with lies, whether it be religiious or political. Perhaps some people are too young to learn more about the world, and by the time they get out (of the Military) they feel "betrayed" after what they find out. That doesn't mean that their time served was "wrong" or "immoral". It simply means that the whole process crosses several disciplines and they need more time to figure it out. And even if they do finally figure it out, that doesn't mean they will in the end accept it.
There are no absolutes. Some people understand what really goes on, and it stands to reason that some others don't.
I'm sure most people I'v spoken to in here today don't understand Russian involvement in Iraq. Does that mean they are "stupid"? Of course not. But it might mean they haven't had the time or resources to figure it out. Do I agree with the idea of young people dying? No. Has anyone figured out a better way yet? No. Do I think we need to be in Iraq killing. Yes. It was not easy to come to these conclusions, but when history is analysed to such an extent, it is obvious that some things are worth dying for. And giving up our (religious) history in the Middle East, and, yes, the oil, and yes, to prevent the fu***ng Russians from gaining a foothold in the region, yes, its all worth it. And it is not only "we" who are dying. There are the unspoken heros from all the Western intelligence services, including Israel (Mossad), who are out there fighting and sometimes dying so we can preserve out way of life.
Brooklyn
07-09-2006, 12:17 AM
There ARE absolutes. You are dead wrong.
Lets not get into a philosophical thing about absolutes. It all depends on your world view.
Brooklyn
07-09-2006, 12:19 AM
And that one who understands what really goes on must be you... :roll:
No, I'm not the "only" one, but I think I did a pretty good job figuring it out when you consider that I did it on my own!
Macs.
07-09-2006, 12:21 AM
No, I'm not the "only" one, but I think I did a pretty good job figuring it out when you consider that I did it on my own!
You've been to Iraq ?
Brooklyn
07-09-2006, 12:22 AM
You've been to Iraq ?
No. I have not.
Arsenal
07-09-2006, 12:22 AM
Maybe some people are content with lies, whether it be religiious or political. Perhaps some people are too young to learn more about the world, and by the time they get out (of the Military) they feel "betrayed" after what they find out. That doesn't mean that their time served was "wrong" or "immoral". It simply means that the whole process crosses several disciplines and they need more time to figure it out. And even if they do finally figure it out, that doesn't mean they will in the end accept it.
There are no absolutes. Some people understand what really goes on, and it stands to reason that some others don't.
Let me guess, you think you are among the group that "understand(s) what really goes on"?
From what I gather, you are inferring that this site propogates lies because there are rules that prohibit the display of graphic or gory images while allowing other military content, and therefore is a propaganda instrument?
If that's the case, I recommend that you take Macs' advice, and close your browser, never to return here. The site and these forums are private property, and all the members here are given the priveledge of posting. It is not the place for you to question the content or critique the content. Of course, you are free to do so, but don't expect to last very long.
I will say too that there are plenty of sites for you, and anyone else who has the desire to see gory images, to visit. You have free will, use it. But don't come in here preaching about what you think is right or wrong because guess what? Most of us don't agree with you.
Oh, and quit using apostrophies on everything. It's retarded.
Violet Fashion by Mindy
07-09-2006, 12:25 AM
This site propogates lies?
Yeah right.
More then any other forum that I have seen this forum contains nationalist pro military conservatives, left wing pinko commies, socialists, jews, people who dislike israel you name it it's all here.
Just about any topic that is discussed has more then one side to the story/discussion.
As macs said, you know where the 'x' is
Death.
07-09-2006, 12:26 AM
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Brooklyn
07-09-2006, 12:29 AM
Let me guess, you think you are among the group that "understand(s) what really goes on"?
From what I gather, you are inferring that this site propogates lies because there are rules that prohibit the display of graphic or gory images while allowing other military content, and therefore is a propaganda instrument?
If that's the case, I recommend that you take Macs' advice, and close your browser, never to return here. The site and these forums are private property, and all the members here are given the priveledge of posting. It is not the place for you to question the content or critique the content. Of course, you are free to do so, but don't expect to last very long.
I will say too that there are plenty of sites for you, and anyone else who has the desire to see gory images, to visit. You have free will, use it. But don't come in here preaching about what you think is right or wrong because guess what? Most of us don't agree with you.
Oh, and quit using apostrophies on everything. It's retarded.
I cannot believe how many hot-heads there are up in here. "Propogates lies". You are jumping to conclusion at a high rate of speed! Please, slow down. I am proud of the American Military. My God! No, I never said that this site is a "propaganda instrument". What I said was: every government has its own unique propaganda, and just because you've discovered it, that doesn't mean that you have to reject it. Sheesh! I hope people like you are not involved in war planning.
Brooklyn
07-09-2006, 12:33 AM
I'm sure most people I'v spoken to in here today don't understand Russian involvement in Iraq. Does that mean they are "stupid"? Of course not. But it might mean they haven't had the time or resources to figure it out. Do I agree with the idea of young people dying? No. Has anyone figured out a better way yet? No. Do I think we need to be in Iraq killing. Yes. It was not easy to come to these conclusions, but when history is analysed to such an extent, it is obvious that some things are worth dying for. And giving up our (religious) history in the Middle East, and, yes, the oil, and yes, to prevent the fu***ng Russians from gaining a foothold in the region, yes, its all worth it. And it is not only "we" who are dying. There are the unspoken heros from all the Western intelligence services, including Israel (Mossad), who are out there fighting and sometimes dying so we can preserve out way of life.
Macs.
07-09-2006, 12:35 AM
What is your ****ing point ?
praetorian6
07-09-2006, 12:36 AM
What is your ****ing point ?
Desperate for attention.
Brooklyn
07-09-2006, 12:36 AM
What is your ****ing point ?
LOL, unbelievable!
Macs.
07-09-2006, 12:37 AM
Please, write in 2 sentences what your damn point is ?
What do you want ?
You jump from one topic to the other.
digrar
07-09-2006, 12:57 AM
I'm with macs. Make a clear consice point.
For starters try and clear up your initial point that this forum has its essence in killing. I think everyone else here would disagree with you on that one. And secondly that the military = **** thing you have going, I'm curious as to your thought process on that one.
And for fvcks sake stop quoting yourself and repeating your posts, it's hard enough to follow your line of thinking as it is.
Brooklyn
07-09-2006, 01:29 AM
I'm with macs. Make a clear consice point.
For starters try and clear up your initial point that this forum has its essence in killing. I think everyone else here would disagree with you on that one. And secondly that the military = **** thing you have going, I'm curious as to your thought process on that one.
And for fvcks sake stop quoting yourself and repeating your posts, it's hard enough to follow your line of thinking as it is.
Just as certain types of *** is offensive to some people, certain acts of violence in real time or photographs of same can also be offensive, to some people. Thus it is arguably “****ographic”. On the other hand these photos and films can be a form of training and/or “scouting” for those personality types, in the American Military, who have a natural inclination to indulge in such matters, when we need them. As for the “Essence in killing” thing. I was simply provoking a philosophical debate to which some people over reacted while condemning me to a particular side of it. I do not believe that what I said is inaccurate because tanks, gun ships, choppers, and F15’s and Stealth are designed for one thing only. At the same time this does not mean that I “therefore” disagree with it. But the hot-heads jumped all over me.
Aerosoul
07-09-2006, 01:38 AM
you weren't trying to provoke "philosophical debate", you wanted the reaction you got.
digrar
07-09-2006, 01:45 AM
por·nog·ra·phy
n.
******ly explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause ****** arousal.
The presentation or production of this material.**** in general is mainstream and it would be fair to say that people who get off ******ly on violence are not your normal mainstream people.
So to say that this site, with it's minimal amount of threads relating to the actuall act of killing and our intollerence of direct linking to images containing gore, is akin to ****, is surely drawing a long bow.
With regards to provoking, we normally call it trolling here. It's held in low regard and most people who indulge in this form of debate get removed from the site. So I suggest you find a new form of starting up discussions on this site.
Brooklyn
07-09-2006, 01:49 AM
you weren't trying to provoke "philosophical debate", you wanted the reaction you got.
Here is what I said "...someone must explain to me how 'killing', which is the essence of this site, is not "obscene or ****ographic"...
So, it makes me wonder how many people on this site could actually do some killing if they had to. Or perhaps they just collect photographs because it "runs in the family" and they really don't understand the business of war. Or they are just too young and over zealous, and minus the experience to understand what it means to take life and to protect it at the same time.
Brooklyn
07-09-2006, 01:55 AM
By the way, if photographs of gratuitous human carnage is not "****ographic", then I don't know what is. Someone must be lying to someone!
digrar
07-09-2006, 02:02 AM
If you get ****** gratifiaction from that then you might just be a 1%er.
I think you've got all the attention you need on this thread.
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