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Secret Squirrel
07-09-2006, 08:45 PM
The White House possibly broke the law by keeping intelligence activities a secret from the lawmakers responsible for overseeing them, the House Intelligence Committee chairman said Sunday.

Rep. Pete Hoekstra, R-Mich., said he was informed about the programs by whistleblowers in the intelligence community and then asked the Bush administration about the programs, using code names. Hoekstra said members of the House and Senate intelligence committees then were briefed on the programs, which he said is required by law.

“We can’t be briefed on every little thing that they are doing,” Hoekstra said. “But in this case, there was at least one major — what I consider significant activity that we have not been briefed on. I want to set the standard there that it is not optional for this president or any president or people in the executive community not to keep the intelligence committees fully informed of what they are doing,” he said on “Fox News Sunday.”

Hoekstra complained to President Bush in a letter dated May 18 that was disclosed in Sunday’s New York Times.

‘A direct affront to me’
In the letter, Hoekstra said the failure to brief the intelligence committees “may represent a breach of responsibility by the administration, a violation of law and, just as importantly, a direct affront to me and the members of this committee who have so ardently supported efforts to collect information on our enemies.”

Frederick Jones, spokesman for Bush’s National Security Council, said the only comment the White House would have on the letter was that the administration “will continue to work closely with the chairman and other congressional leaders on important national security issues.”

Hoekstra has been critical of the administration before. In his letter, he also objected to the president’s nominees for the director and deputy director of the CIA. He also complains about the role of the director of national intelligence — a position created in response to the Sept. 11 attacks.

link (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13788092/)
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XShipRider
07-10-2006, 10:15 AM
It's called "need to know."

Mailman
07-10-2006, 04:00 PM
Yawn...some other NYT bitch seeking attention.

Mailman

Secret Squirrel
07-10-2006, 04:52 PM
Yawn...some other NYT bitch seeking attention.

Mailman

Pete Hoekstra is a NYT bitch or were you refering to yourself? :D

Secret Squirrel
07-10-2006, 04:53 PM
It's called "need to know."

And legally, the House Intelligence Committee has a "need to know". ;)

panzerjager
07-10-2006, 08:20 PM
If its Anti-Bush, it's Secret Squirrel!

Feel free to use that if you like it, SS.

Secret Squirrel
07-10-2006, 08:29 PM
If its Anti-Bush, it's Secret Squirrel!

Feel free to use that if you like it, SS.

So republicans are Anti-Bu$h now?;)

panzerjager
07-10-2006, 09:02 PM
So republicans are Anti-Bu$h now?;)

Isn't everyone? It's the hip thing, you know!

Lt-Col A. Tack
07-10-2006, 10:11 PM
A lot of positve things going on there.

People in the intelligence community report items of concern to a Congressman on an intelligence committee, someone who knows how to handle this information, not some loudmouthed, arrogant NYT editor. Hoekstra then goes on record, demands more notification. He refers to the program with an appropriate level of detail. A great example of the Legislative branch is asserting itself. Good for them.

I wasn't clear as to whether he was talking about the two recently revealed programs or something new.

I reiterate my opinion that the NYT editor needs jail time.

Ideally, the Congress, the two most representative bodies of our government, would be leading the fight against the bad guys. But right now everybody is too worried about mid-term elections to do anything serious about terrorism.

Interestingly enough, I believe the French Parliament recently passed tough new anti-terrorism laws, including additional surveillance. That's the way it should be.

priccobe
07-10-2006, 10:57 PM
Don't you think that the REAL story in Hoekstra's letter is the following?
...I have long been convinced that a strong and well-positioned group within the Agency intentionally undermined the Administration and its policies. This argument is supported by the Ambassador Wilson/Valerie Plame events, as well as by the string of unauthorized disclosures from an organization that prides itself with being able to keep secrets.
You can read the actual letter here for yourself and bypass this reporter's bias and misreporting on the letter right here: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/national/20060709hoekstra.pdf

It's on the 2nd page.
If its Anti-Bush, it's Secret Squirrel! No truer words spoken.

Lt-Col A. Tack
07-10-2006, 11:33 PM
Don't you think that the REAL story in Hoekstra's letter is the following?

You can read the actual letter here for yourself and bypass this reporter's bias and misreporting on the letter right here: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/national/20060709hoekstra.pdf

It's on the 2nd page.
Interesting letter. Who is this Steve Kappees? I haven't heard of him before.

Secret Squirrel
07-11-2006, 12:42 AM
Don't you think that the REAL story in Hoekstra's letter is the following?

actually I'd say the real story is yet again this president thinks that he's above the law. And now we have republicans trying to yank on his leash to pull him back in.

Secret Squirrel
07-11-2006, 12:43 AM
I wasn't clear as to whether he was talking about the two recently revealed programs or something new.

No this would be another program that they didnt know about.

Mastermind
07-11-2006, 12:49 AM
So, congressmen/women and Senators...you have a case...carry through with it! Don't just whine over it....grow a back bone, stand out front on the steps of the house of Congress and state you are brigning charges against the President! God...what a bunch of panty wearers! MM

XShipRider
07-11-2006, 06:01 AM
And legally, the House Intelligence Committee has a "need to know". ;)

True, otherwise the NYT won't be able to get the story through the
sieve we call Congress.

Mailman
07-11-2006, 05:05 PM
Pete Hoekstra is a NYT bitch or were you refering to yourself? :D

I am of course refering to your bitch, hokey pokey :D

Mailman

Secret Squirrel
07-11-2006, 05:12 PM
I am of course refering to your bitch, hokey pokey :D

Mailman

So you're my bitch now?...no thanks.:) I guess that leaves the republican...of course there's already some pugs in the thread who are jumping ship to support the Führer...err...leader.