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Bert
07-14-2006, 07:48 AM
MOSCOW - President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday called Vice President **** Cheney’s criticism of Russia “an unsuccessful hunting shot,” a caustic comment that underlines tensions ahead of the Group of Eight summit this weekend.

Under fire from critics who say his country does not deserve to be in the G-8 because of democratic backsliding during his more than six years in power, a confident Putin said the elite club of wealthy nations needs Russia because of its energy riches and nuclear might.

In three interviews with Western TV networks posted on the Kremlin Web site Wednesday, days before the summit in St. Petersburg, Putin set out what sounded like ground rules for dealing with an increasingly assertive Russia, saying his nation is open for constructive criticism but will not be pushed around. (continued)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12355000

Owned. p-)

Snoshi
07-14-2006, 08:13 AM
pretty owned

WarriorMonk
07-14-2006, 09:01 AM
someone got royally whacked...

Sergei
07-14-2006, 10:28 AM
A **** who couldn't shoot straight. ^)

Sc-He
07-14-2006, 10:34 AM
Seriously pwned there ****.

VISTREL
07-14-2006, 11:59 AM
****, who had invited Taliban leadership to USA, is the last person to accept criticism from.

a_very_ex_STAB
07-14-2006, 11:59 AM
Vlad's quite snappy with the put downs isn't he :)

He must look at George W. Bush and wonder how that clown manages to even take a dump without step by step guidance.

sferrin
07-14-2006, 01:19 PM
Owned? my arse. it took that wanna be in the kremlin 3 months for a comeback, PLEASE....he wouldnt last a day on a NYCity playground.


ROFL!!!!!!

Dima-RussianArms
07-14-2006, 01:39 PM
Owned? my arse. it took that wanna be in the kremlin 3 months for a comeback, PLEASE....he wouldnt last a day on a NYCity playground.

It hurts doesn't it :)

I am not sure whether to laugh or feel compasionate when I look at the US administration at the top: I mean we got geriatric crook aka ****, stiff angry b*tch who got none in last 10 years if ever aka Condie, "Washington DC Bob" aka Rumsfeld and to "lead" them all is the MAN - the "pretzel man" aka clown aka monkey aka US President G. W. Bush rofl rofl rofl

Sh*t in not just Cheyney who got pwnd, entire country is getting pwnd daily...

Dima-RussianArms
07-14-2006, 02:33 PM
Hurt. are you kidding,
No I am, you are just not man enough to admit it

coming from you and your likes its just empty hot air from a bitter arse stain.
That was not a complement, was it?


Dude, you and other not very intelligent people like you voted them in the office - enjoy the consequences rofl

Or maybe I am just jealous that when they all retire they can get a job on the Comedy channel and I can't...

ttunavy
07-14-2006, 02:37 PM
It hurts doesn't it :)

I am not sure whether to laugh or feel compasionate when I look at the US administration at the top: I mean we got geriatric crook aka ****, stiff angry b*tch who got none in last 10 years if ever aka Condie, "Washington DC Bob" aka Rumsfeld and to "lead" them all is the MAN - the "pretzel man" aka clown aka monkey aka US President G. W. Bush rofl rofl rofl

Sh*t in not just Cheyney who got pwnd, entire country is getting pwnd daily...

haha we mighty russians laugh at stupid americans. foolish americans and their money, industry, and technology........here in mother russia we have umm, i mean umm

Dima-RussianArms
07-14-2006, 02:47 PM
haha we mighty russians laugh at stupid americans. foolish americans and their money, industry, and technology........here in mother russia we have umm, i mean umm
:)
I have dealt with Americans long enough (11.5 years) to realise that all of the technology, brains and money in US come from or belong to Asia, Europe or Arabs. The only thing that Americans can claim as their own are obesity, EXTREMELY poor education, ignorance and bad manners...

So you see it is quite reverse: all what we have in Russia is ours and we are completely self-reliant and self-sufficient and everything that you have is just...well you get my point.

Mirror
07-14-2006, 06:38 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12355000

Owned. p-)

Putin should also have added 'A friendly shot'.p-)

sir-chimp
07-14-2006, 08:22 PM
:)

So you see it is quite reverse: all what we have in Russia is ours and we are completely self-reliant and self-sufficient and everything that you have is just...well you get my point.

all that and your still here 11.5 years since your mother brought you over

one would think as much you like to run your mouth you would be back in that 3rd world s_hit hole by now living the "good life"

oh the irony

lol

I never get tired of the nationalistic jackoffs who are too chicken s_hit to even live in their own country

Shades of Grey
07-14-2006, 10:18 PM
:)
I have dealt with Americans long enough (11.5 years) to realise that all of the technology, brains and money in US come from or belong to Asia, Europe or Arabs. The only thing that Americans can claim as their own are obesity, EXTREMELY poor education, ignorance and bad manners...

So you see it is quite reverse: all what we have in Russia is ours and we are completely self-reliant and self-sufficient and everything that you have is just...well you get my point.

11!!! Russia strong :roll:.

God im sick of people claiming America as being the only country with an obesity problem look around you its just ****ing denial. And as for ignorance your statement is typical 13 year old style. You should learn some manners aka dont generalise people.

StukaJr
07-14-2006, 10:32 PM
all that and your still here 11.5 years since your mother brought you over

one would think as much you like to run your mouth you would be back in that 3rd world s_hit hole by now living the "good life"

oh the irony

lol

I never get tired of the nationalistic jackoffs who are too chicken s_hit to even live in their own country

It's a favorable job market - US has high salaries, balanced regulation of businesses and some of the lowest education rates in the 1st World Nations. With High School drop out rate being as high as 50% in some Counties - it's no wonder that a good portion of the white collar jobs are filled by H1 Visa holders or naturalized immigrants. Some posters on this board consider living abroad a criminal behavior and US being a nation of preset allowed behaviors and pre-conceived ideas of everybody having the same - the fact that an immigrant from a totalitarian state can formulate his or her own ideas and formulate their own way of life (and speak their opinion)... That's irony.

You are the one ready to get your bags packing - so why won't you? At least, when I wasn't happy - I didn't stick around for years of whine and moan.

Kilgor
07-14-2006, 10:34 PM
:)


So you see it is quite reverse: all what we have in Russia is ours and we are completely self-reliant and self-sufficient and everything that you have is just...well you get my point.


Sulf sufficient, like the good old days when the SU had to import record amounts of grain from the US lol.

Btw... remember who lost the cold war.

sir-chimp
07-14-2006, 10:39 PM
You are the one ready to get your bags packing - so why won't you? At least, when I wasn't happy - I didn't stick around for years of whine and moan.


Wtf are you jabbering about?

asch
07-14-2006, 10:42 PM
Btw... remember who lost the cold war. don't worry, according to Cheney, cold war is not over yet. and now we are completely dfferent people than we used to be in 90s.
if people around the world don't like Putin rhetorics, people here don't give a fvck about it. you can write crap like "RUSSIA STRONG!!11" as much as you want, we'll see how situation changes in 10 years and who would be major players.
peace.

VPR
07-14-2006, 11:01 PM
the americans are just jealous that our president doesnt take **** from anybody, while theirs' has speech problems

Macs.
07-14-2006, 11:24 PM
:)
I have dealt with Americans long enough (11.5 years) to realise that all of the technology, brains and money in US come from or belong to Asia, Europe or Arabs. The only thing that Americans can claim as their own are obesity, EXTREMELY poor education, ignorance and bad manners...

So you see it is quite reverse: all what we have in Russia is ours and we are completely self-reliant and self-sufficient and everything that you have is just...well you get my point.

That you are speaking english, and we are not speaking russian here shows us who was more successful.

StukaJr
07-14-2006, 11:24 PM
Wtf are you jabbering about?

Bah! - confused you with the CleteTores - accept my apologies... [does an apology dance].


That you are speaking english, and we are not speaking russian here shows us who was more successful...

Now it's almost readable.

Shades of Grey
07-14-2006, 11:27 PM
No everybody is just sick of your overkill nationalism atleast alot of americans seem critical of thier government and can admit they make mistakes both past and present.

Dima-RussianArms
07-14-2006, 11:30 PM
all that and your still here 11.5 years since your mother brought you over

Wrong guess.

11.5 years ago I got "all expenses paid + allowance" deal from the US government (Bob Dole specificaly), later my skills and talents were noticed by the US corporate world, which presently employs me to our mutual benefit...
So no, I don't live here, I just work here and I would not even stick around for that if not for the certain personal reasons.
As for my mother, she only visited US once, endured 4 weeks and said "never again, I'll stick to Europe", dad didn't even want to come.

You know what the difference between US and Russia is?
People who visit Russia are always suprised and amazed at what they see, they can't believe how little if anything actual life overthere has to do with all that garbage and lies that is being fed to them by the media and politicians.

At the same time I am yet to meet a single person(family, friends or aquintances) who could say that US met or exceeded their expectations after visiting it in person, it is always a dissapointment...

There are looks/image and there is substance and US is definitely falling short on the later. An attractive box with nothing inside...

I do not hate US, I just have no respect for it, simple like that.
There is nothing for me to respect here: no culture, no unique historical achievements, no selfless struggles, no overcoming the odds.
All what I see is just a society that leaches off the rest of the world and has no shame in benefiting from others troubles (sometimes it creates those troubles artificially).

And before you open your mouth again and start telling me how ungratefull I am, remember I do not owe US anything, US owes me (in taxes), I didn't begg to come here - I was invited and the fact is that I am much more valuable to US than an average American citizen (again taxes and spending habbits wise).
So shut up becuase I am paying your welfare, medicare and social security of your parents...

StukaJr
07-14-2006, 11:31 PM
No everybody is just sick of your overkill nationalism atleast alot of americans seem critical of thier government and can admit they make mistakes both past and present.

Like what Mistakes did United States government admited to in your life time?

Dima-RussianArms
07-14-2006, 11:32 PM
That you are speaking english, and we are not speaking russian here shows us who was more successful.

Did you think hard before writing it?

It is an english speaking board afterall...:roll:

Shades of Grey
07-14-2006, 11:34 PM
Like what Mistakes did United States government admited to in your life time?

Not the government the people. Like alot of Americans can say that wars and occupations their country have partipated in were a mistake.I have yet to see russians say the same about any war or occupation they have commited.

Macs.
07-14-2006, 11:38 PM
People who visit Russia are always suprised and amazed at what they see, they can't believe how little if anything actual life overthere has to do with all that garbage and lies that is being fed to them by the media and politicians.

I know a few guys who had been to Russia, and all they were surprised/amazed about was the enorm poverty in contrast to some filfthy rich people.



At the same time I am yet to meet a single person(family, friends or aquintances) who could say that US met or exceeded their expectations after visiting it in person, it is always a dissapointment...

I've been to the US and can't say it was a dissapointment for me.

Macs.
07-14-2006, 11:44 PM
Did you think hard before writing it?

It is an english speaking board afterall...:roll:

If Russia is so "completely self-reliant and self-sufficient" then obviously you wouldn't need to learn english and come to the US, would you ? (You, and those other millions and millions Russians.)

Dima-RussianArms
07-14-2006, 11:46 PM
I know a few guys who had been to Russia, and all they were surprised/amazed about was the enorm poverty in contrast to some filfthy rich people.

Show the country is any different.
In US's case 93% of county's wealth is accumulated in the hands of less than 10% of its population...



I've been to the US and can't say it was a dissapointment for me.
Maybe you standards/expectations are too low..p-)
...................

Macs.
07-15-2006, 12:02 AM
Show the country is any different.
In US's case 93% of county's wealth is accumulated in the hands of less than 10% of its population...


In Russia the 200 richest families own 85 % of the peoples wealth... so ? (1999 that is, couldn't find anything more recent.)

The difference is that in the US there is still something like a middle-class.

Just take a look at the GDP's:

USA: GDP - per capita: $41,800 (2005 est.)
Russia: GDP - per capita: $11,100 (2005 est.)

DarkCypher
07-15-2006, 12:15 AM
a confident Putin said the elite club of wealthy nations needs Russia because of its energy riches and nuclear might.
rofl rofl
without those energy riches and it's nuclear might (which happens to be leaking) Russia would be nothing but a cesspool.

ttunavy
07-15-2006, 12:41 AM
:)
I have dealt with Americans long enough (11.5 years) to realise that all of the technology, brains and money in US come from or belong to Asia, Europe or Arabs. The only thing that Americans can claim as their own are obesity, EXTREMELY poor education, ignorance and bad manners...

So you see it is quite reverse: all what we have in Russia is ours and we are completely self-reliant and self-sufficient and everything that you have is just...well you get my point.

such as gates, forbes, perot, buffet. maybe you meant people like the wright borthers? well aviation isnt important. henry ford? damn that mass produced automobile. maybe you meant bell or edison.....naw, telephones and electricity are nothing either.

ttunavy
07-15-2006, 12:41 AM
edit for dp. sorry

sir-chimp
07-15-2006, 01:05 AM
Wrong guess.

11.5 years ago I got "all expenses paid + allowance" deal from the US government (Bob Dole specificaly), later my skills and talents were noticed by the US corporate world, which presently employs me to our mutual benefit...
So no, I don't live here, I just work here and I would not even stick around for that if not for the certain personal reasons.
As for my mother, she only visited US once, endured 4 weeks and said "never again, I'll stick to Europe", dad didn't even want to come.

You know what the difference between US and Russia is?
People who visit Russia are always suprised and amazed at what they see, they can't believe how little if anything actual life overthere has to do with all that garbage and lies that is being fed to them by the media and politicians.

At the same time I am yet to meet a single person(family, friends or aquintances) who could say that US met or exceeded their expectations after visiting it in person, it is always a dissapointment...

There are looks/image and there is substance and US is definitely falling short on the later. An attractive box with nothing inside...

I do not hate US, I just have no respect for it, simple like that.
There is nothing for me to respect here: no culture, no unique historical achievements, no selfless struggles, no overcoming the odds.
All what I see is just a society that leaches off the rest of the world and has no shame in benefiting from others troubles (sometimes it creates those troubles artificially).

And before you open your mouth again and start telling me how ungratefull I am, remember I do not owe US anything, US owes me (in taxes), I didn't begg to come here - I was invited and the fact is that I am much more valuable to US than an average American citizen (again taxes and spending habbits wise).
So shut up because I am paying your welfare, medicare and social security of your parents...

you pound that keyboard girl rofl

tell me does it rain in your fantasy land?

You got to be about one of the biggest nationalistic chicken s_hits on here

The biggest difference between Russia the United States is the constant flow of immigrants looking to escape the s_hit hole they where born into

gee guess which way the flow goes.......

but hey I cant blame you staying in the states, if I were you I wouldnt want to go back either

of course I wouldnt jabber like a little bitch about how great the home country Im to big of a pussy to live in is


If Russia is so "completely self-reliant and self-sufficient" then obviously you wouldn't need to learn english and come to the US, would you ? (You, and those other millions and millions Russians.)

bah! dont bring reality into this

ViktorNavorski
07-15-2006, 01:14 AM
C'mon people, be more observance of the title beneath Dima, you would realize it is not worth wasting your breath on.

sir-chimp
07-15-2006, 01:21 AM
C'mon people, be more observance of the title beneath Dima, you would realize it is not worth wasting your breath on.


ah come on,

its funny to see him get all defensive and start spouting his motherland bulls_hit

Will938
07-15-2006, 02:24 AM
Wrong guess.

11.5 years ago I got "all expenses paid + allowance" deal from the US government (Bob Dole specificaly), later my skills and talents were noticed by the US corporate world, which presently employs me to our mutual benefit...
So no, I don't live here, I just work here and I would not even stick around for that if not for the certain personal reasons.
As for my mother, she only visited US once, endured 4 weeks and said "never again, I'll stick to Europe", dad didn't even want to come.

You know what the difference between US and Russia is?
People who visit Russia are always suprised and amazed at what they see, they can't believe how little if anything actual life overthere has to do with all that garbage and lies that is being fed to them by the media and politicians.

At the same time I am yet to meet a single person(family, friends or aquintances) who could say that US met or exceeded their expectations after visiting it in person, it is always a dissapointment...

There are looks/image and there is substance and US is definitely falling short on the later. An attractive box with nothing inside...

I do not hate US, I just have no respect for it, simple like that.
There is nothing for me to respect here: no culture, no unique historical achievements, no selfless struggles, no overcoming the odds.
All what I see is just a society that leaches off the rest of the world and has no shame in benefiting from others troubles (sometimes it creates those troubles artificially).

And before you open your mouth again and start telling me how ungratefull I am, remember I do not owe US anything, US owes me (in taxes), I didn't begg to come here - I was invited and the fact is that I am much more valuable to US than an average American citizen (again taxes and spending habbits wise).
So shut up becuase I am paying your welfare, medicare and social security of your parents...


So I understand that this is all just flamebait, but whatever:

So, Bob Dole went out to seek you and offered all this stuff? Sure you didn't throw your hand out there? And you only work here for "certain personal reasons"...yeah, like theres more opportunity here then you could attain back home. Sounds like your mother and father had years of that propaganda you say we've had so much of.

Exactly what lies are being "fed" to us by the media and politicians about your country? You think they give a **** about Russian lifestyle? Does that sound like something people would be interested in to you? No, so no one covers it. And I'm so sorry that your friends and family are biased/wierd.

Nothing is attractive to a guy who feels that he has to prove that his country is better than ours.

No, you hate the US. Its pretty obvious judging by the way you talk about it. No culture? This is the melting pot, we have a very unique culture. Its so popular that people all over the world like to assimilate it. Movies, clothes, restraunts...unique historical achievements? Like overcoming communism, landing on the moon? And NO country has selfless struggles, there is always something for them to gain from it. We overcame the odds to have the largest economy in the world, to have the most powerful military; and don't give me any crap about my stating those FACTS are why people hate Americans. Facts are facts, accept them and shut up. Once again ALL countries lookout for themselves first including Russia, so don't piss and moan about us being the big bad USA.

Ok I'll say it, how ungrateful of you. Your spending habits seem to be the product of your profits from working in the US, so kiss my American ass Ivan. Get off your high horse and realize that this IS the land of opportunity as witnessed by yourself, we are capable of great things, and the only reason you dislike our leadership is because you were inclined to hate them from the start.

Lets make a deal, you go back home and sever all ties with the USA. Prove to us that we need you so much. I for one think we can get by without you.

Digimon
07-15-2006, 02:24 AM
ah come on,

its funny to see him get all defensive and start spouting his motherland bulls_hit

May I ask how you would describe your reactions? What drives your responses?

sir-chimp
07-15-2006, 02:32 AM
May I ask how you would describe your reactions? What drives your responses?

the rotation of the moon

Dalamara
07-15-2006, 02:44 AM
May I ask how you would describe your reactions? What drives your responses?

His lies drive our reactions, and the truth drives our responses.

TR1
07-15-2006, 02:56 AM
Putin would kill Cheney in a cage fight.

Dalamara
07-15-2006, 02:59 AM
Putin would kill Cheney in a cage fight.

Brilliant!!! Our world leaders should be elected based on their cage fighting abilities! Wolverine for President 08!

Cheney is a D-bag though, I agree.

Digimon
07-15-2006, 03:06 AM
the rotation of the moon
One of the best points you’ve made.

Digimon
07-15-2006, 03:11 AM
His lies drive our reactions, and the truth drives our responses.

Sadly, its probably the same thing for him...

daily666
07-15-2006, 07:45 AM
Well, I've been here for a while but it's the first time I see such a severe Russia vs USA flamewar! Incredible.

Anonymosity
07-15-2006, 02:27 PM
Yawn, another USA vs Russia **** argument...btw, Putin's Sambo could kick Cheney's....drunken boxing any day.

DIU
07-15-2006, 03:31 PM
By the way, emigration from the Russian Federation (don’t confuse with all former USSR) in 1989-2005 (except CIS countries) was 1.348.000 (less than 1% of total population), mostly to Germany and Israel, only 138.000 to USA. From 1999 emigration constantly decreases: 108.263 in 1999, 54.586 in 2002, 47.937 in 2003, 42.778 in 2004, 33.689 in 2005.

Nine Demons God
07-15-2006, 03:48 PM
Yawn, another USA vs Russia **** argument...btw, Putin's Sambo could kick Cheney's....drunken boxing any day.

Nah, Cheney would have a heart attack at first punch Putin throw.

PeterG
07-15-2006, 04:24 PM
Cheney doesn't punch it out, He blows them away with shotguns.

Nine Demons God
07-15-2006, 04:57 PM
Cheney doesn't punch it out, He blows them away with shotguns.

Nah Putin would use his CQC skill to disarm Cheney and smash Cheney's face in with his very own shotgun.

TR1
07-15-2006, 05:01 PM
Cheney doesn't punch it out, He blows them away with shotguns.

Chechney would miss and hit Condi. Meanwhile Putin would use his mad Sambo skills and fall of a cliff.

sir-chimp
07-15-2006, 05:06 PM
Chechney would miss and hit Condi. Meanwhile Putin would use his mad Sambo skills and fall of a cliff.


while clutching a pie

TR1
07-15-2006, 05:59 PM
while clutching a pie

however, Spetsnaz would come in and save the pie.

Drunkensquid
07-15-2006, 07:39 PM
Putin would kill Cheney in a cage fight.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/ripinby/Smileys%20and%20stuff/axisorly6ff.jpg

asch
07-17-2006, 12:15 AM
Originally Posted by PeterG
Cheney doesn't punch it out, He blows them away with shotguns.

nope, shotguns is "for friends only".

kosse
07-17-2006, 05:54 AM
Wrong guess.
You know what the difference between US and Russia is?
People who visit Russia are always suprised and amazed at what they see, they can't believe how little if anything actual life overthere has to do with all that garbage and lies that is being fed to them by the media and politicians.

I have to admit that I was surprised when I visited 2 years ago. Moscow might be rich but that wealth is nowhere to be seen in many other parts of the country. Vyborg for example is a real ****hole. Buildings are in terrible condition (many should have been torn down decades ago), windowplanes broken, trash everywhere, beggars, grenade hits still visible in the walls, roads full of holes etc.The abandoned hospital construction site reminded me of NK's Ryugyong hotel :lol:. Best parts of the city were finnish-made stone buildings that were the only ones with some dignity left. If I were a russian I would not boast with my country too much at least not yet :roll:

TR1
07-17-2006, 11:48 AM
Best parts of the city were finnish-made stone buildings that were the only ones with some dignity left.

oh, of course, the only good building are built by you mummi trolls. :roll: Please, you think it is bad? It was worse 10-5 years ago. At least urban reconstruction is actually underway now, and is very visible in some places like Moscow or St.Petersburg.

kosse
07-17-2006, 12:03 PM
oh, of course, the only good building are built by you mummi trolls. :roll: Please, you think it is bad? It was worse 10-5 years ago. At least urban reconstruction is actually underway now, and is very visible in some places like Moscow or St.Petersburg.
Well it was kind of sad to see things like that when it would not have required much to put them in order. Little plaster and paint in the walls, new asphalt, windows, litter boxes and more people to street cleansing duties. The city would have looked completely different.

TR1
07-17-2006, 12:07 PM
Well it was kind of sad to see things like that when it would not have required much to put them in order. Little plaster and paint in the walls, new asphalt, windows, litter boxes and more people to street cleansing duties. The city would have looked completely different.

I totally know what you mean. :-(

asch
07-17-2006, 08:33 PM
Moscow might be rich but that wealth is nowhere to be seen in many other parts of the country.
so, you been in "many other parts of the country"? so how many months you traveling here? p-)

of course, "sh|thole" parts is present. it depends mostly on current governor's activities, etc. by the way it's just 20 years after collapse. time will tell.

RomanS
07-17-2006, 09:31 PM
i dont understand why some Russians here reply to retards in this topic

there seem to be an itch for bashing Russia, cause if they didnt care, they wouldnt post here.

but hey, most of their attempts to insult Russia is like music to my ears.

California Joe
07-17-2006, 10:50 PM
You gotta admit it was a good line....Next time they get together Putin should lift Cheneys shirt and make fart noises on his pendulous belly.....

RomanS
07-18-2006, 12:24 AM
You gotta admit it was a good line....Next time they get together Putin should lift Cheneys shirt and make fart noises on his pendulous belly.....

rofl rofl
man i was drinking V8 when i read it, almost covered my keyboard with 18 servings of vegitables in liquid form

nick_ua
07-18-2006, 03:03 PM
You gotta admit it was a good line....Next time they get together Putin should lift Cheneys shirt and make fart noises on his pendulous belly.....
I just got a mental picture of that.

alpinestar
07-18-2006, 10:29 PM
Owned like a kid