Arkans Tigers- Slavonia, Vukovar (53 minutes)

[Andrija-Sumadinac]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3288884077248078561&q=arkans+tigers

[Tebryn]

At 5:12min there's the death star's administrator.

The music is really influenced by North Korea greatest hits !

What a pity, I don't understand a word of the drawing lesson from 27 to 32min...

(battle scenes are situated at the end)

[Lt. James Anderson]

Good video.

They look like a decent well disciplined unit.

[I love Rachael Leigh Cook]

Yeah, when they're facing unarmed civillians. Do a search on Arkan and his Tigers. The Yugoslavian Army was a highly disciplined and professional force, don't compare them to thugs/criminals like Arkan.

[Royal]

Yeah, when they're facing unarmed civillians. Do a search on Arkan and his Tigers. The Yugoslavian Army was a highly disciplined and professional force, don't compare them to thugs/criminals like Arkan.

Quoted for truth.

[Fargin]

2.8. Don't post terrorist propaganda videos. These can be identified by usually having terrorist organization logos, featuring terrorist themed music, and reading of manifestos or shouting of religious decrees while sniping, bombing, or beheading a victim.

Maybe I'm biased, but I think this belongs under 2.8.

[Royal]

Maybe I'm biased, but I think this belongs under 2.8.

I'm buggered if I'm going to listen to 55 minutes of Turbo Folk or other patriotic Serbian music.

Raznatovic (Arkan) was filth not fit to lick the boots of honest soldiers (of any nation) and his Tigers were murdering scum, but I wouldn't describe them as a terrorist organisation (although they undoubtedly used terror, so did the RAF).

If anyone wants to point out a specific part, I'll happily remove it.

[Andrija-Sumadinac]

I'm buggered if I'm going to listen to 55 minutes of Turbo Folk or other patriotic Serbian music.

Raznatovic (Arkan) was filth not fit to lick the boots of honest soldiers (of any nation) and his Tigers were murdering scum, but I wouldn't describe them as a terrorist organisation (although they undoubtedly used terror, so did the RAF).

If anyone wants to point out a specific part, I'll happily remove it.
Royal I'd ask you politely to lay off the rhetoric a bit. A close family member of mine, my mothers cousin, served in the Srpska Dobrovoljacka Garda in Erdut and Vukovar. I will agree that if Arkans only intent was fighting to help the JNA and RSK army they would have been a first class unit. But alas as has been mentioned they did some distasteful things and Arkans other ventures in life tarnished the the service of some of his good soldiers and commanders.

[Royal]

Royal I'd ask you politely to lay off the rhetoric a bit. A close family member of mine, my mothers cousin, served in the Srpska Dobrovoljacka Garda in Erdut and Vukovar. I will agree that if Arkans only intent was fighting to help the JNA and RSK army they would have been a first class unit. But alas as has been mentioned they did some distasteful things and Arkans other ventures in life tarnished the the service of some of his good soldiers and commanders.

I've run into 'tigrove' both during and since the war. Happily some are now dead and others doing time. There were perfectly decent parts of the JNA, the ARSK and other outfits - that comment does not apply to the tigers. If that statement offends you then I'm sorry, but I say it as I saw it.

[Andrija-Sumadinac]

I've run into 'tigrove' both during and since the war. Happily some are now dead and others doing time. There were perfectly decent parts of the JNA, the ARSK and other outfits - that comment does not apply to the tigers. If that statement offends you then I'm sorry, but I say it as I saw it.
I am not offended because of what you said about the Tigers but more so because my mothers cousin who I know personally served with them and I know for sure he is a good guy. I think you tarnished him with you're generalizations that they were ALL bad. I have been together with him and his other buddies a couple of times and they didn't seem at all like "killers" or "pyschos" to me.

[Royal]

I am not offended because of what you said about the Tigers but more so because my mothers cousin who I know personally served with them and I know for sure he is a good guy. I think you tarnished him with you're generalizations that they were ALL bad. I have been together with him and his other buddies a couple of times and they didn't seem at all like "killers" or "pyschos" to me.

If he's such a good guy, ask him why he joined up with a bunch of hooligans led by criminals (time served in both Yugoslavia and Western Europe) rather than the VJ, ARSK or whatever?

[Lokos]

Arkan was a scum bag. We all know it. No use pushing the patriotic line. He was an assassin, a thief, a gangster and a petty, profiteering warlord. His paramilitaries might have been fairly high grade as far as paramilitaries go, but his was a terrible blow to the moral standing of the Serbian wartime agenda.

He deserved a lifetime of jail.

The only people I'll sing praises to are the unsung heroes of the war, who fought for hearth and home without resorting to utter madness.

Andrija:

That having been stated, I'm not saying every Tiger was a murderous scumbag, too. But the driving force behind the formation was as nasty a business as it comes.

We shouldn't cheer on people we wouldn't want to meet in the street, you know?

Lokos

[Andrija-Sumadinac]

If he's such a good guy, ask him why he joined up with a bunch of hooligans led by criminals (time served in both Yugoslavia and Western Europe) rather than the VJ, ARSK or whatever?
Idon't know. I was always more interested in hearing his war stories more than his motives for joining. I guess at the time nobody looked at them in the same way as they are seen now. I guess people thought of them as an elite unit that comprised of the most patriotic of fighters since they were all volunteers. Whilst the JNA were conscripts called up to fight, like my father.

[zg18]

I know that Arkans Tigers after fall of Krajina started to "hunt" former RSK soldiers from refugee columns in Bosnia and forcely return them to front because they betrayed Serbianity,a lot of them got killed from Bos.Petrovac to Sanski Most because Serb Army-2. Krajina corps of VRS in particular were retreating in a mess.Some were brought to his camp in Erdut where they were treated badly.

[Andrija-Sumadinac]

I know that Arkans Tigers after fall of Krajina started to "hunt" former RSK soldiers from refugee columns in Bosnia and forcely return them to front because they betrayed Serbianity,a lot of them got killed from Bos.Petrovac to Sanski Most because Serb Army-2. Krajina corps of VRS in particular were retreating in a mess.Some were brought to his camp in Erdut where they were treated badly.
I heard this also. But 2nd corps weren't the ones responsible for the refugees deaths. it was the Croatian tank unit which ran over the Serbian refugees.

[zg18]

I heard this also. But 2nd corps weren't the ones responsible for the refugees deaths. it was the Croatian tank unit which ran over the Serbian refugees.

Where at Dvor na Uni?Not true- but you didn`t understand me,Tigers brought forcely several hundred or maybe even thousand RSK soldiers to front line,in allied Croat-Muslim operations(Sana `95 (5th Muslim ARBiH corps),operation Maestral,Una,Južni Potez `95) from septembar to november 1995 these forces had extremly high losses,partly because VRS 2th Krajina corp retreated in a mess to Sanski most,they lost several hundred trucks,vehicles, dozens of armoured units in that retreat,situation was so desperate that VRS command pulled back from Koridor two brigades on front line near Novi Grad-Sanski most line and they eventualy stoped ARBiH with arty supremacy,they lost Sanski Most but defend Novi Grad,at the very end of war these units counter-attacked Muslims at Sanski most thretening to take it again but all that stoped Dayton agreement.