View Full Version : Genuine Delta Force Images?
Ding Chavez
03-27-2004, 01:55 PM
i found these over at *****images.com and they appear to be in my opinion genuine delta force photos.
what do you guys think?
over there it says they're time life photos and the first three are of halo training and the last 2 are of the actual delta force compound.
p.s. if anybody has a *****images.com account can you please post these without the ugly ass watermark ;-)
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/50382762.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=EBEF9528AFF8E1338685FD921AEA2FEC7757C85AE85A779B
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/50382763.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=EBEF9528AFF8E1331C5AD87339B072717757C85AE85A779B
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/50382761.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=EBEF9528AFF8E1339C78490705D490C77757C85AE85A779B
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/50779191.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=EBEF9528AFF8E133B7767BD75C50D7F57757C85AE85A779B
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/50779192.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=EBEF9528AFF8E133ECCA4C313207DD077757C85AE85A779B
If you'd just give the captions with them...
Argyll
03-27-2004, 02:17 PM
Definately.the Guy in Black looks just like Sandison form BHD,so they must be Delta!! rofl
Chuck6d
03-27-2004, 02:23 PM
Looks like the Golden Knights getting ready for a jump :D
ibstolidude
03-27-2004, 02:28 PM
I HATE these threads - isn't that just Pope - not what the location it pretends to be.
Nic M16 long rifle.
NcDeuce
03-27-2004, 02:37 PM
over there it says they're time life photos and the first three are of halo training and the last 2 are of the actual delta force compound.
Lots of people go through HALO. rofl
over there it says they're time life photos and the first three are of halo training and the last 2 are of the actual delta force compound.
Lots of people go through HALO. rofl
My thoughts exactly, that's why I asked for the captions...
moughoun
03-27-2004, 03:35 PM
Just my opinion but I doubt serving Delta member's hang around posing for snap's :D
Wilco
03-27-2004, 04:22 PM
Those last two look like a Pararescue school I remember seeing on a show.
Ding Chavez
03-27-2004, 04:38 PM
well just to prove you know it alls wrong i did a little research of my own into the photos authenticity ;)
and heres what i found the photos are part of the time life pictures collection which is hosted by *****images.com and can be viewed here http://www.timelifepictures.com furthermore all photos in this album were taken and submitted by time life photographers.
now i don't know about you but i for the most part consider time life a pretty credible source for media since their photos in some circumstances will be viewed by millions and would surely come under heavy scrutiny if they were misrepresented.
so the point i'm trying to make is these photos weren't just pulled off of somebodys website who claimed them to be photos of delta force.
now as if that's not enough to convince ya i also did a little research on the photographer listed as submitting them and his name was greg mathieson and after a little research on him i found out that hes the president and chief still photographer for the mai photo news agency and a little bio about him can be found here http://www.antonnews.com/glencoverecordpilot/1998/07/24/news/bill.html in which it mentions his work with seal teams and f-117 pilots amongst other things.
also here's another little bit about him here http://www.usni.org/Proceedings/articles03/promathiesoniraq.htm
now if you add all these facts up it doesn't take a genius to figure out that the photos i posted are most likely genuine photos of delta force.
anybody care for a rebuttal? :D
p.s. you can view the photos with captions by going to the above mentioned address and typing "delta force" in the search bar there.
molsen
03-27-2004, 05:11 PM
i found these over at *****images.com and they appear to be in my opinion genuine delta force photos.
what do you guys think?
Your "research" doesn't mean crap. These could be any HALO trained military personnel, not just Delta. Just because something says Delta doens't mean it is. Why would anyone above would care for a rebuttal? You asked our opinion and you got it. Don't start crying to momma because you don't like what we say.
it doesn't take a genius
Apparently it doesn't, because you seem to believe everything you read, so YOU'RE not a genius!
well just to prove you know it alls wrong i did a little research of my own into the photos authenticity ;)
and heres what i found the photos are part of the time life pictures collection which is hosted by *****images.com and can be viewed here http://www.timelifepictures.com furthermore all photos in this album were taken and submitted by time life photographers.
now i don't know about you but i for the most part consider time life a pretty credible source for media since their photos in some circumstances will be viewed by millions and would surely come under heavy scrutiny if they were misrepresented.
so the point i'm trying to make is these photos weren't just pulled off of somebodys website who claimed them to be photos of delta force.
now as if that's not enough to convince ya i also did a little research on the photographer listed as submitting them and his name was greg mathieson and after a little research on him i found out that hes the president and chief still photographer for the mai photo news agency and a little bio about him can be found here http://www.antonnews.com/glencoverecordpilot/1998/07/24/news/bill.html in which it mentions his work with seal teams and f-117 pilots amongst other things.
also here's another little bit about him here http://www.usni.org/Proceedings/articles03/promathiesoniraq.htm
now if you add all these facts up it doesn't take a genius to figure out that the photos i posted are most likely genuine photos of delta force.
anybody care for a rebuttal? :D
p.s. you can view the photos with captions by going to the above mentioned address and typing "delta force" in the search bar there.
So what have you just proved? The only thing you proved is that the HALO guys are more likely to be SEALs than CAG...
Besides, members of Delta Force don't exist as Delta Force is only an old nickname...and photos of Ft. Bragg could be photo's of the 82nd barracks for all we know.
fred_engles
03-27-2004, 05:41 PM
We shouldn't be so hard on Ding. If you go to time-life picture search (http://www.timelifepictures.com/source/CFW/Product.aspx?p=9&e=0&pg=1&am=-1), and search for 'delta force,' those pictures do come up, and the captions do say they're Delta.
Not that I care either way: they're not very interesting pictures anyway. But Ding does seem to have reasonable grounds for calling them authentic. [Timee-life *could* be wrong, of course].
grabie_bis
03-27-2004, 05:44 PM
hey thats a Spanish EADS-CASA C-212 !!!!
Ding Chavez
03-27-2004, 05:46 PM
Quote "So what have you just proved? The only thing you proved is that the HALO guys are more likely to be SEALs than CAG..."
negative because if you go to
http://www.timelifepictures.com and search "navy seals" like i did "delta force" you'll see almost all the navy seals photographs there we're submitted by the same photographer greg mathieson and if he was granted access to take the photographs of the seals is it that hard to believe he was granted access to take the photos of delta?
not really, but that's just my opinion.
and molsen relax over there before you have a stroke i'm just telling it like it is man and we're all entitled to our own opinions it just so happens that mine and yours differs
redhawk_six
03-27-2004, 06:16 PM
Quote "So what have you just proved? The only thing you proved is that the HALO guys are more likely to be SEALs than CAG..."
negative because if you go to
http://www.timelifepictures.com and search "navy seals" like i did "delta force" you'll see almost all the navy seals photographs there we're submitted by the same photographer greg mathieson and if he was granted access to take the photographs of the seals is it that hard to believe he was granted access to take the photos of delta?
not really, but that's just my opinion.
and molsen relax over there before you have a stroke i'm just telling it like it is man and we're all entitled to our own opinions it just so happens that mine and yours differs
Yes, it is that hard to believe since the military hands out info on the seals, but offically, as far as the media and public are concerned, Delta doesn't exsist. These ARE NOT DELTA! Aside from the fact that we don't even know if delta does recive HALO training, dozens of other units do! Those could be PJ's, CCT, CSAR, AFSF, USASF, DevGru, Seals, Rangers, airborne infantry, or a bunch of civilans who payed to parachute out of a military plane. Delta doesn't pose for photos, the only known photo of delta is from Panama, and that one probably isn't even delta. Those are not photos of delta, accept it. Photos of delta don't exsist, DoD would NEVER have let these photos been taken if it was delta.
Ding Chavez
03-27-2004, 06:27 PM
yea your right chief those arent delta their probably just a bunch of airsofters horsing around right? :roll:
lol
now that's your opinion but if you don't mind me asking how did you come to it?
did you do any research on the subject to back up your claims like i did or are you just talking out of your ass when you boldly say "These ARE NOT DELTA!"?
my money's on the latter :D
StealthMode
03-27-2004, 06:31 PM
I will not come to a conclusion, except they are special forces
Notice how in the third picture the last guy is kinda concealing his face. As well as NO ONE is looking at the photographer. And notice photo 1 and 2 of the guy. He has his breather on, and cannot be identified.
It seems that everyone is aware of protecting identity. You can obvisouly see that the photgrapher knows not to reveal identity.
They are deffinitly Special forces, to a degree where identity is important. That rules out several units, as we often see pictures of Green Berets and assorted Special Forces groups, including SEALS, identity frequently.
If the first pictures were taken at BRAGG like the pictures of the buildings.....would DEVGRU be at Bragg to do this training?
ibstolidude
03-27-2004, 06:41 PM
hey thats a Spanish EADS-CASA C-212 !!!!
hey jumping a CASA is not that unusual at Bragg especially for hollywood pay hurts.
Ding Chavez
03-27-2004, 06:42 PM
i believe devgru has their own training facility rumored to be located in dam neck, virginia
TALOS
03-27-2004, 06:47 PM
Wow, everyone is so quick to yell "fake, not delta" when quite frankly you really dont know anymore than the next guy. Many people on this forum seem to think they look more "real" if they say something is fake, Ding looked it up and stated what he believes and backed up why, the naysayers just scream "it cant be" with no real reason other than "Delta hasnt been admitted to". So waht, Canada didnt admit JTF2 even when it was obvious that they existed also.
The captions say Delta, the photographer has had access to other SF groups, no identity has been shown, so, there is no reason to say its not true except if people just like to argue.
molsen
03-27-2004, 07:33 PM
If the first pictures were taken at BRAGG like the pictures of the buildings.....would DEVGRU be at Bragg to do this training?
Yes, they would be at Ft. Bragg doing this considering the first phase of the school is at Ft. Bragg. The second phase is in Yuma, AZ. There is only ONE Military Freefall School, and ALL services go to the SAME school. Those guys that are in the yellow freefall suits are more than likely students going thru the school. It's funny how people who have NEVER been in the military, or are too scared to join (yes, I mean YOU!!) seem to know everything about the military, special operations, etc. If you don't know, then shut the hell up!
molsen
03-27-2004, 07:37 PM
i believe devgru has their own training facility rumored to be located in dam neck, virginia
You "believe"? If you don't know FOR SURE, then don't comment on such matters. You kids are unbelieveable.
StealthMode
03-27-2004, 07:57 PM
molsen said:
You "believe"? If you don't know FOR SURE, then don't comment on such matters. You kids are unbelieveable.
wow MOLSEN... FOR REAL. Its a damn forum, people can speculate and say things, and comment on matters that they are not sure about if they want.
If you "believe" that he is wrong, and you know something that he, or WE do not, why dont you correct him, or tell us what you know, instead of being a bad ass tuff guy.
After all we are all "kids" on here... :bash:
Your the one acting like a kid with such a stupid response to Ding.
Thank you for your response to MY post though, it was informative untill you ruined it by being stupid at the end of that one as well.
molsen said:
It's funny how people who have NEVER been in the military, or are too scared to join (yes, I mean YOU!!) seem to know everything about the military, special operations, etc. If you don't know, then shut the hell up!
Again, that comment is just stupid. Plenty of people in the military know a WHOLE lot about things regarding it, such as certain people in the intelligence community.
Thanks again for the usefull part of your post :hug:
Ding Chavez
03-27-2004, 08:04 PM
molsen it sounds to me like you need a warm glass of milk and a nap if not a slap right in the jaw.
first off you punk i said i believe devgru has their own training facility rumored to be located in dam neck, virginia because i don't know for sure and i don't think anyone outside of the naval special warfare community does either but what i did do was offer the gentleman an answer based on all information made publicly available to us in regards to the subject so far.
but since you seem to be so knowledgable about the subject why don't you enlighten us all as to your credentials seeing how you seem to know everything.
certainly an internet toughguy like you would be just as menacing in real life as you are online :D
TALOS
03-27-2004, 09:20 PM
but since you seem to be so knowledgable about the subject why don't you enlighten us all as to your credentials seeing how you seem to know everything.
certainly an internet toughguy like you would be just as menacing in real life as you are online :D
I was kinna wanting to see that myself, dont call people kids and mouth off about "non military" if you arent ready to ante up who you are and where you get all your "better" knowledge.
redhawk_six
03-28-2004, 12:58 AM
yea your right chief those arent delta their probably just a bunch of airsofters horsing around right? :roll:
lol
now that's your opinion but if you don't mind me asking how did you come to it?
did you do any research on the subject to back up your claims like i did or are you just talking out of your ass when you boldly say "These ARE NOT DELTA!"?
my money's on the latter :D
I spent the past 3 years studying various aspects of modern military, focusing on special operations.
Look, they're not delta, there's no way they are, this disscussion has been had many times here. Some one spots a soldier in "gucci" gear and comes running in saying "OMG It's DELTA!!!11". Face, it's not. It never will be. Photos of delta don't exsist.
I saw the captions on time life, and guess what, they're wrong. Time life IS NOT a credible source of military info. They are a media outlet with no real knowledge of the military. They can't tell the diffrence between a PJ and an MP if their life depended on it. Hell, they don't even know what a PJ is I bet you. The media knows jack all about the military. If some rotc guy was walking around in a black vest they'd probably say it was delta too. They don't know the diffrence between the SF units. As far as they know in the way of SF is that the military has 3 special operations units, delta, rangers, and seals. So, if those are the only ones they know, that's who they're gonna say it is. I'm sorry, but I think trusting time life or any media outlet as a reliable source of military info is just plain moronic.
Yes, I know they are not delta, why? Because I have more common sense than that. The military would never commision a photographer to take pics of a unit that they say doesn't exsist.
End of story.
MK133
03-28-2004, 01:04 AM
Definately.the Guy in Black looks just like Sandison form BHD,so they must be Delta!! rofl
Wow, you even know his name! rofl
hoganshero
03-28-2004, 01:35 AM
Ding has merely stated that he believes they are photos of Delta as time life says they are. He's entitled to believe whatever he wants true or not. He's also entitled to post such opinions as " i believe devgru has their own training facilityrumoredto be located in dam neck, virginia. " It's not like he said he trained with them or something. Relax Molsen!
I did a search for Delta at time life and those photos do come up, as well as some other photos I believe are also delta force.
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/50381795.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_TIMEPIX&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=231CFFF89517576E29107C5DFF40F66F11C2B749F9A059B7
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/50731278.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_TIMEPIX&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=231CFFF89517576EB8FC8B7C011D8B0411C2B749F9A059B7
Silent 6
05-05-2005, 09:51 AM
Somewhere a guy actually from Delta/CAG, whatever, is sitting at his home computer laughing his A$$ off at everyone fighting about this "OMFG DELTA!!!!!1111!!!" crap.
Quit bickering about crap you don't actually know anything about, go load up your airsoft BS and pretend to be studs! When you're done get down on your knees and thank God that there are men, like those in Delta, and women (in the regular army) who are willing to step up to the line, sign their names, go through training, and fight for your right to post silly arguments on a computer screen!
NOW SHUT THE FRUCK UP AND CRY TO YOUR MOMMA'S BECAUSE WE KNOW YOU ALL LIVE AT HOME STILL!
ronin2172
05-05-2005, 09:56 AM
Somewhere a guy actually from Delta/CAG, whatever, is sitting at his home computer laughing his A$$ off at everyone fighting about this "OMFG DELTA!!!!!1111!!!" crap.
Quit bickering about crap you don't actually know anything about, go load up your airsoft BS and pretend to be studs! When you're done get down on your knees and thank God that there are men, like those in Delta, and women (in the regular army) who are willing to step up to the line, sign their names, go through training, and fight for your right to post silly arguments on a computer screen!
NOW SHUT THE FRUCK UP AND CRY TO YOUR MOMMA'S BECAUSE WE KNOW YOU ALL LIVE AT HOME STILL!
wow.....you dug up an old thread (over a year old) just to say that? Talk about retarded and a waste of bandwidth.......looks like you have a wee bit too much time on your hands :cantbeli:
MARINO
05-05-2005, 10:02 AM
hey thats a Spanish EADS-CASA C-212 !!!!
hey jumping a CASA is not that unusual at Bragg especially for hollywood pay hurts.
woot woot
Khabbi
05-05-2005, 10:06 AM
theres even a civilian HALO jump now ,
Aerosoul
05-05-2005, 10:08 AM
OK this is stupid. Any threads relating to the Big D should be immediatly locked.
colonel
05-05-2005, 10:12 AM
It's like Delta Force is the 'holy grail' of every schoolboy on this site. You are not going to find any class photos or pics of them at a reunion barbeque so get a life and move on.
EsoognomEhT
05-05-2005, 10:15 AM
Sorry, Delta what? who?
ronin2172
05-05-2005, 10:16 AM
OK this is stupid. Any threads relating to the Big D should be immediatly locked.
I agree and anyone who ressurects a long dead thread on the dereaded D should be banned....
unclechuckles
05-05-2005, 10:24 AM
Dude, it's totally airsoft.
hughdotoh
05-05-2005, 10:24 AM
hey thats a Spanish EADS-CASA C-212 !!!!
Hey that avatar rocks, 'mano!
Locked N Loaded
05-05-2005, 10:31 AM
http://www.specialoperations.com/Army/Delta_Force/delta.jpg
^^http://www.specialoperations.com/Army/Delta_Force/default.html.......... rofl
Erik2a4
05-05-2005, 10:32 AM
well just to prove you know it alls wrong i did a little research of my own into the photos authenticity ;)
and heres what i found the photos are part of the time life pictures collection which is hosted by *****images.com and can be viewed here http://www.timelifepictures.com furthermore all photos in this album were taken and submitted by time life photographers.
now i don't know about you but i for the most part consider time life a pretty credible source for media since their photos in some circumstances will be viewed by millions and would surely come under heavy scrutiny if they were misrepresented.
so the point i'm trying to make is these photos weren't just pulled off of somebodys website who claimed them to be photos of delta force.
now as if that's not enough to convince ya i also did a little research on the photographer listed as submitting them and his name was greg mathieson and after a little research on him i found out that hes the president and chief still photographer for the mai photo news agency and a little bio about him can be found here http://www.antonnews.com/glencoverecordpilot/1998/07/24/news/bill.html in which it mentions his work with seal teams and f-117 pilots amongst other things.
also here's another little bit about him here http://www.usni.org/Proceedings/articles03/promathiesoniraq.htm
now if you add all these facts up it doesn't take a genius to figure out that the photos i posted are most likely genuine photos of delta force.
anybody care for a rebuttal? :D
p.s. you can view the photos with captions by going to the above mentioned address and typing "delta force" in the search bar there.
Yes. That is the compound. I think the jumpers are ABN-SOTD, or 82nd Sport Parachute Activity, or similar...not Delta.
Flukeman
05-05-2005, 10:52 AM
OMG Delta Farce :roll:
Argyll
05-05-2005, 11:17 AM
same **** as the other topic!!
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