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Sayeret
03-27-2004, 05:06 PM
http://www.israel-wat.com/onia10.jpg

some mortars

http://www.israel-wat.com/onia11.jpg

mines

http://www.israel-wat.com/onia13.jpg

AK-47s

http://www.israel-wat.com/onia2.jpg

http://www.israel-wat.com/onia4.jpg

http://www.israel-wat.com/onia6.jpg

107mm rockets

http://www.israel-wat.com/ship1.jpg

http://www.israel-wat.com/ship2.jpg

RPGs

http://www.israel-wat.com/ship4.jpg

some more land mines

George W. Bush
03-27-2004, 05:13 PM
Some nice toys for the IDF. They did confiscate all this nice stuff, right?

AK-Lover
03-27-2004, 05:20 PM
Man all that stuff is almost brand-new! I wonder what would happen if it would have gotten into palestinian hands.

tacticalmanta
03-27-2004, 05:24 PM
Just a small care package from Iran.

Ichhabe
03-27-2004, 05:37 PM
http://www.israel-wat.com/ship4.jpg

Some nice Yugoslavian mines aswell. Wonder were they were "lost" and "forgotten"?

tacticalmanta
03-27-2004, 06:03 PM
Bosnian Entrapreneurs?

aixina
03-27-2004, 06:20 PM
[quote="Sayeret"]http://www.israel-wat.com/onia10.jpg

some mortars

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i think those are not mortar rounds, those are AT-3 Sagger AT missiles
a little bit outdated

AK-Lover
03-27-2004, 06:27 PM
But they still work if user has proper training and those look almost brandnew.

Sayeret
03-27-2004, 08:08 PM
First to answer an earlier poster all these weapons were captured by the IDF.

aixina I know those aern't mortar rounds at the very front but the things behind the AT-3 missiles are mortars.

AK-Lover
03-27-2004, 09:08 PM
hey sayaret buddy, do you think you could use you're "connections" to get ahold of that stuff for me ya know, I want to help rid the world of weapons, that would be great. Thanx! :)

SeanAshi
03-27-2004, 10:41 PM
http://www.israel-wat.com/onia2.jpg
Benjamin Ben-Eliezer what happened to him? Sharon work him to much and he quit?

bigmatty
03-28-2004, 12:32 AM
[quote=Sayeret]http://www.israel-wat.com/onia10.jpg

some mortars

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i think those are not mortar rounds, those are AT-3 Sagger AT missiles
a little bit outdated

And what do you think those tube-like thingies are sitting behind the saggers.......

Hate mail
03-28-2004, 02:06 AM
If you believe a former Serbian sagger-operator, these "malyutkas" look awfully Yugoslav-made (the color tells a lot), not Russian.

They make them at "Krusik" factory, Valjevo, Serbia.

Could be that those found their way to Palestine from some ex-YU army storage facility in Bosnia..

http://www.serbian-business.com/usd/uploads/post-36-1076121411.jpg

S'13
03-28-2004, 02:26 AM
These weapons were found on the 4,000 ton freighter called the "Karine A".The freighter was intercepted by the IDF on January 3, 2002, when it was in the Red Sea, 300 miles from Israel. Shayetet 13 fighters, backed by combat helicopters and aircraft, surprised the crew and took over the vessel without firing a single bullet. The ship was taken to Eilat the night of January 4, 2002. The equipment found on the ship included Katyusha rockets, mortars, sniper rifles, bullets, mines and anti-tank missiles.

http://www.idf.il/idf_in_pictures/images/2002/january/dots05.01.02-10e.jpg

The "Karine A" in the port of Eilat

EDIT: I didn't notice earlier, there are also photos of weapons found on the "Santorini" which was captured in May 2001, also by Shaytet 13 fighters. The ship was on its way from Lebanon to the Gaza Strip, smuggling various kinds of weapons.

SixFiveOne
03-28-2004, 02:41 AM
I think that someone has earned his prommotion here...

fantassin
03-28-2004, 02:52 AM
That's really old news... the "Karine A" was seized more than two years ago on the 2nd of January 2002...that belong to the "history" thread....

BMF_EOD
03-28-2004, 03:00 AM
Got any pictures of the "underwater containers" found aboard the Karine A?

S'13
03-28-2004, 03:07 AM
That's really old news... the "Karine A" was seized more than two years ago on the 2nd of January 2002...that belong to the "history" thread....

This is a photos thread and Sayeret brought photos of weapons found on the "Karine A" and "Santorini" so there is no reason why it shouldn't be on this thread, however I do agree that the subject is also suitable for the military history thread.

Backis
03-28-2004, 03:14 AM
This is a photos thread and Sayeret brought photos of weapons found on the "Karine A" and "Santorini" so there is no reason why it shouldn't be on this thread, however I do agree that the subject is also suitable for the military history thread.

True, but the date including year should have been provided don't ya think. ;)

Almost seems like somebody wanted to spread the belief that the shipment was intercepted happened this January... :P

Otherwise, great pics.

S'13
03-28-2004, 03:24 AM
This is a photos thread and Sayeret brought photos of weapons found on the "Karine A" and "Santorini" so there is no reason why it shouldn't be on this thread, however I do agree that the subject is also suitable for the military history thread.

True, but the date including year should have been provided don't ya think. ;)

Almost seems like somebody wanted to spread the belief that the shipment was intercepted happened this January... :P

Otherwise, great pics.

I don't see any reason to make people belive this event happend this year but anyway, the mistake was fixed
;) p-)

S'13
03-28-2004, 03:38 AM
Got any pictures of the "underwater containers" found aboard the Karine A?

http://www.idf.il/idf_in_pictures/images/2002/january/weaponry2_notext.jpg

IDF soldiers unpacking weapons from waterproof containers

Backis
03-28-2004, 03:42 AM
Got any pictures of the "underwater containers" found aboard the Karine A?

http://www.idf.il/idf_in_pictures/images/2002/january/weaponry2_notext.jpg

IDF soldiers unpacking weapons from waterproof containers

Those would be the mortar rounds in transportation tubes (the small black ones with the yellow stripe) then?

wholagun
03-28-2004, 03:43 AM
isn't this old news?

if this is the old news that happened last year or two years ago wasn't there doubt by many people that Israel mocked the whole thing and many didn't take it seriously.

George W. Bush
03-28-2004, 03:46 AM
wasn't there doubt by many people that Israel mocked the whole thing and many didn't take it seriously.

?

S'13
03-28-2004, 03:47 AM
http://www.israel-wat.com/onia2.jpg
Benjamin Ben-Eliezer what happened to him? Sharon work him to much and he quit?

His party (Labour) is no longer a part of the government's coalition, that's why you haven't been seeing him.

S'13
03-28-2004, 03:54 AM
isn't this old news?

if this is the old news that happened last year or two years ago wasn't there doubt by many people that Israel mocked the whole thing and many didn't take it seriously.

And many people also say we carried out the 9/11 terrorist attacks and also the recent terror attacks in Spain... :roll: :bash:

SeanAshi
03-28-2004, 06:07 AM
I would say that Shaul Mofaz is doing a better job.

M_S
03-28-2004, 06:14 AM
http://www.israel-wat.com/ship2.jpg

RPGs

Watch your step buddy! rofl

kinghk
03-28-2004, 06:43 AM
http://www.israel-wat.com/onia2.jpg


Why are Israeli politicians so fat?

Ichhabe
03-28-2004, 08:39 AM
That's really old news... the "Karine A" was seized more than two years ago on the 2nd of January 2002...that belong to the "history" thread....

Nitpicker. :D
Not when the photos are the reason for it being posted.

And those photos are quite interesting I must say.

UoUo
03-28-2004, 08:52 AM
http://www.israel-wat.com/onia2.jpg


Why are Israeli politicians so fat?

:D

That the way that things work in the "knesset".

Mr. Nielsen
03-28-2004, 09:02 AM
http://www.israel-wat.com/onia2.jpg
Benjamin Ben-Eliezer what happened to him? Sharon work him to much and he quit?

His party (Labour) is no longer a part of the government's coalition, that's why you haven't been seeing him.

Labour left Sharon's coalition back in october 2002. Ben-Eliezer also left as head of labour the same year. Haven't heard about him since.

S'13
03-28-2004, 09:09 AM
http://www.waronline.org/analysis/pal/weaponry.jpg

On the far right you can see more of those waterproof containers.

Diving equipment and inflatable Zodiac boats were also found on the ship. Remember that not long ago terrorists tried to attack a settlement in the Gaza Strip using diving equipment.

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040326/capt.lon81003261632.mideast_israel_palestinians_lon810.jpg

Mr. Nielsen
03-28-2004, 10:39 AM
http://www.idf.il/idf_in_pictures/images/2002/january/weaponry2_notext.jpg

Does anyone know if such containers were ever used, to supply the resistance, during world war two? I can't recall ever having heard about it myself.

fantassin
03-28-2004, 10:43 AM
Any guess on the body weight of Sharon ? he seems to be getting bigger every time I see him on TV.

UoUo
03-28-2004, 10:51 AM
Any guess on the body weight of Sharon ? he seems to be getting bigger every time I see him on TV.


Don't have a any idea...but after the wars that this man throw...he have The right to sit down..and eat as much as he want.

BTW : is sun is pretty fat 2.

kinghk
03-28-2004, 10:53 AM
Any guess on the body weight of Sharon ? he seems to be getting bigger every time I see him on TV.

I would guess atleast 130kg. Doesen't look much like a ex-military to me :)

UoUo
03-28-2004, 10:58 AM
Any guess on the body weight of Sharon ? he seems to be getting bigger every time I see him on TV.

I would guess atleast 130kg. Doesen't look much like a ex-military to me :)

Belive me...he was a great man in the army.

Thank to this guy we won Egept in 73 war.

Mr. Nielsen
03-28-2004, 11:07 AM
Any guess on the body weight of Sharon ? he seems to be getting bigger every time I see him on TV.

I would guess atleast 130kg. Doesen't look much like a ex-military to me :)

Belive me...he was a great man in the army.

Thank to this guy we won Egept in 73 war.

My view is that the 1973 war ended without any clear outcome.

Sharon's move across the the Suez was a good daring move, but that hardly outweights his long record of dubious actions. In my view, when his actions are summed up, he has brought Israel much unnecesary death and misery.

UoUo
03-28-2004, 11:16 AM
Any guess on the body weight of Sharon ? he seems to be getting bigger every time I see him on TV.

I would guess atleast 130kg. Doesen't look much like a ex-military to me :)

Belive me...he was a great man in the army.

Thank to this guy we won Egept in 73 war.

My view is that the 1973 war ended without any clear outcome.

Sharon's move across the the Suez was a good daring move, but that hardly outweights his long record of dubious actions. In my view, when his actions are summed up, he has brought Israel much unnecesary death and misery.

LoL

Yeah i know that you are anti/israeli..but hey? where is the line?

101 km in the road to cairo.

Damscus almost occupiad by israeli forcec.

The goal of the arabs was to destroy the jewish state. the goal of the Israelis was to prevent that.

Hm....israel still exsit.

And about what unnecesary death and misery you talking about? 82 war?

S'13
03-28-2004, 11:20 AM
Doesen't look much like a ex-military to me :)

rofl rofl rofl rofl

http://www.aijac.org.au/review/2003/images/sharon73.jpg
General Ariel Sharon during the 1973 war

Military Career

1948: Platoon Commander of Alexandroni Brigade.

1949: Company Commander.

1949-50: Commander of Brigade Reconnaissance Unit.

1951-52: Intelligence Officer of Central Command and Northern Command.

1952-57: In charge of Unit 101.

1956: Commander of Paratroopers Brigade for the Sinai Campaign.

1957-58: Studied military theory at Staff College, Camberley, UK.

1958: Training Commander, General Staff.

1958-69: Commander of Infantry School.

1962-64: Commander of Armoured Brigade.

1964: Became Head of the Training Department of Defence Forces.

1967: Head of Brigade Group during Six-Day War. Afterwards in charge of "pacifying" the Gaza Strip.

1973: Resignes from the army. Recalled as Commander of the Central Section of the Sinai Front during the Yom Kippur War in October 1973.

S'13
03-28-2004, 11:37 AM
Any guess on the body weight of Sharon ? he seems to be getting bigger every time I see him on TV.

I would guess atleast 130kg. Doesen't look much like a ex-military to me :)

Belive me...he was a great man in the army.

Thank to this guy we won Egept in 73 war.

My view is that the 1973 war ended without any clear outcome.

Sharon's move across the the Suez was a good daring move, but that hardly outweights his long record of dubious actions. In my view, when his actions are summed up, he has brought Israel much unnecesary death and misery.

Lets see, in the northern front all Syrian forces in the Golan are warded off and pushed into Syria itself, to the extent that the IDF is only 40 km from Damascus (well within artillery range).
In the southern front the IDF is on the west bank of the Suez canal and 101 km from Cairo moreover the IDF cuts off and encircles the Third Army (over 45,000 Egyptian soldiers!).

Isn't that a clear outcome? ;)

Mr. Nielsen
03-28-2004, 11:46 AM
Lets see, in the northern front all Syrian forces in the Golan are warded off and pushed into Syria itself, to the extent that the IDF is only 40 km from Damascus (well within artillery range).

The Syrians had brought the Israeli counter-attack to a halt. And if the war had continued It would have been their turn to "counter counter-attack." If that would have accomplished anything we will never no.



In the southern front the IDF is on the west bank of the Suez canal and 101 km from Cairo moreover the IDF cuts off and encircles the Third Army.

But the third army was not close to give up, and the egyptians were still securely entrenched on either side of the Suez to the north.

UoUo
03-28-2004, 11:54 AM
s'13 שילך קיבינימט...תן לו לחשוב שהם ניצחו..הרי גם המצרים חוגגים בכל הזדמנות את ה"נצחון" עלק שלהם עלינו ביום כיפור

And for you Mr. Nielsen, ok we didn't won that war. :lol:
:roll:

Mr. Nielsen
03-28-2004, 11:56 AM
The goal of the arabs was to destroy the jewish state. the goal of the Israelis was to prevent that.

Hm....israel still exsit.

[quote=UoUo]
And about what unnecesary death and misery you talking about? 82 war?

I'm talking about lot's of things not just Shabra or Shatila, or the dubious actions of unit 101.

But I'm on my way out the door now, so I'm not going to eleaborate now. But I'm sure mr. Sharon will soon come up as a subject again,then we can talk on.

S'13
03-28-2004, 12:19 PM
The Syrians had brought the Israeli counter-attack to a halt.

What's your source, the Syrian Ministry for Foreign Affairs? rofl

No one "halted" us, we stoped.
There was no intrest in taking over an Arab capital.



And if the war had continued It would have been their turn to "counter counter-attack."

The Syrian capital was within Israeli artillery range, they lost 1,150 tanks of the 1,650 they had prior to the war. How in the world would they have been able to make a "counter counter-attack" (as you put it). :|


But the third army was not close to give up

The fact is that over 45,000 Egyptain soldiers were 'neutralized' the moment they were cut off and encircled.


and the egyptians were still securely entrenched on either side of the Suez to the north.

And the IDF was also securely entrenched on either side of the Suez, controling an area between the Egyptian cities of Suez and Ismailia and 101 km from the Egyptian capital.

S'13
03-28-2004, 12:22 PM
s'13 שילך קיבינימט...תן לו לחשוב שהם ניצחו..הרי גם המצרים חוגגים בכל הזדמנות את ה"נצחון" עלק שלהם עלינו ביום כיפור

And for you Mr. Nielsen, ok we didn't won that war. :lol:
:roll:

אני מבין אותך אחי, אבל מה שעצוב זה שהבנאדם הוא דני, לא מצרי... אתה מבין

IDFM203
03-28-2004, 02:49 PM
The Syrians had brought the Israeli counter-attack to a halt.

What's your source, the Syrian Ministry for Foreign Affairs? rofl

rofl rofl

Well perhaps (in his case its defiantly plausible) but more likely and sadly it came from some of our intellectual deficient "jews" and revisionist historians like Norman finkelstien ,noam chumsky or even benny morris (hey like everyone, we Jews also have plenty of "bad and misguided apples" ;) ) where it was they who got it from there ;)


I mean I have seen mr neilson do this before...how he can conclude that after the Arabs attacked to annihilate us and we halted their advance and pushed them back to where we didn’t lose a inch of land not to mention we were in such a dominant position militarily by the end that we could have had Israeli tanks parked in Damascus, Beirut, and Cairo if we chose to (which we never did nor ever had any intention to do so), and with all that how he can term it and say there was no clear outcome is beyond normal comprehension (well I really understand why he does it but you still get my point ;) ).

What he fails to get is that for us winning is simply surviving and not getting defeated for getting defeated means we no longer exist.

They attacked, we took intial blows, then turned it around and after the war, Israels borders were exactly as they were before the war.

Israel won!!


As for the thread subject, so whats new?, the pali’s have been getting arms from Iran and Arab nations for years..I mean yes we intercepted this one and a few others, but an open question is how much went through.

Anyways it was a great Mossad/S13 operation and they should be commended for it!!

Shalom :D