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Ezra Coli
07-21-2006, 12:01 AM
Heya folks, figured I contribute for a change.

I'm a war movie buff and I watch a lot of DVDs, figured I'd share the images with the board. I grabbed a bunch of shots of my favorite films, they are military in nature so I figured they would be appropriate here since they all have military hardware, guns, uniforms, etc, and offer stuff we haven't seen much in terms of pics. As films of military nature.

All but one of them is a foreign film (for us Americans) and all are subtitled except Lost Battalion. ome of the best war movies on the planet are foreign made, Hollywood is a pale charade compared to some directors.

Included is a brief first paragraph or two of the review I wrote for each one on my blog, so you can get an idea of what its about.

Of all, these are my current favorites. "Destiny of a Man", another Russian war movie that I have yet to screen grab, is among my favorites of all time, if this is popular here maybe I'll get motivated...




Ballad of a Soldier, Grigori Chukhrai, Russia

The idealism projected in the film seemed to be fitting of the period if one looked at this film with a Western point of view. This was a really good film, wholesome and virtuous. Its value as a tool in the hands of Soviet propagandists is clear, but the story itself is far above mere propaganda. It is a timeless love story, and it could have been set in any nation and at almost any time. What brought it to my interest is that it happened to be set in 1943 when Germans were driving tanks all over the western Sovet Union. One the wife or girlfriend will appreciate as well. One of my favorites.

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Ambush, Olli Saarela, Finland

If you saw Pekka Perikka's "Winter War" about the 1939 war between Finland and Russia, you will probably like this film, While I don't think its as good as "Winter War" in terms of overall depth of character and dialog, "Ambush" pretty good as a basic, run of the mill war movie. Its actually more American in its form and the characters. "Winter War" is very Finnish in its pacing and mannerisms, one can come away from Perikka's work feeling like he's spent some time among real Finns to a degree. "Ambush" was not like this, and that was disappointing. The movie looks a little much like it was patterned after a cheesy Hollywood production rather than an original effort by an inspired director. It has its moments, like the singing around the table and some of the supporting actors' seemed to be perfect Finns, but the main character reeks of "Tom Cruise-it is" a bit much for my liking. With my primary complaints out of the way, there are some very redeeming qualities. The special effects are pretty decent, but the sets and equipment are visually stunning. It is filmed beautifully, though not because of the cinematographer, but because Finland is just plain beautiful. Unlike the deathly white and absolute chilling cold of the Winter War, this film is set in spring and summer.

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Come and See, Elem Klimov, Russian
This has got to be the most impressively stunning films I have ever seen. It left me feeling literally drained. In a nutshell, this is a coming-of-age story with the main character, 12 year old Floyra, moving from idealized, innocent youth to deep and horrifying, hardened and empty angst in a manner of days. It is surreal, nightmarish, and grueling. The plight of this young boy tore out my heart and tossed it on the muddy ground. Perhaps it is because I have a young son that I relate to the delicate state of Floyra's innocence, and his absolutely unjust loss of it.

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Dark Blue World, Krystof Hádek, Czech Republic

If you are stricken by the romance of the skies, movies about the Battle of Britain have surely been among your favorites. Put them all down, right now, and go find "Dark Blue World". This is the movie you want.
Directed by Jan Sverák, and produced in the Czech Republic in 2001, this film has the most stunning aerial combat recreation and visual effects of them all. What makes this movie good is that there is a great main story, a heart wrenching secondary plot, and a historical setting that we rarely have the privilege of seeing here in the west. Its a story of friendship, sacrifice and endurance by a band of humiliated Czech patriots. These are the fellows who did not stand for the occupation of their nation by the Nazis, they fled for Great Britain, joined the RAF and flew for liberty. This makes for a rich setting for some wonderful storytelling. Visually this film is magnificent, and overcomes my rather prudish affront at the moral conflicts presented in the story. The DVD has some stunning "making of" features that evoke great wonder, its really amazing how they pulled off some of the aerial feats.
The story hums along nicely with unsuspected twists and turns, and there are a couple of moments where I verbally exclaimed "wow!", not at the action, but the story twists.

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Father of a Soldier, Rezo Chkheidze, Georgian/USSR

I viewed it twice to be sure my initial response was not simplistic affection for the main character, the lovable Georgy, a father and earthy fellow. I was really taken by the beauty in this film, the care of father for son. Here is a story of a proud papa who's drive to see his son throws him into unlikely challenges and a grueling pilgrimage through a world he was not part of. Yet, being an alien to the world he traveled through, he brought his values, unashamedly and refreshingly so, and touched many along the way.

Some have mentioned the vineyard scene in which old Georgy chastises the tankers and officers in a fit of righteous outrage over their lack of respect for the simple things, for a man's hard work, and for others property and the fruit of their labor. These are refreshing moral precepts to see on screen. Throughout, there are several similar lessons, yet they do not come across as contrived moralisms, but simply a part of who the man is.

Georgy is simply funny in his good humored way, and watching him laugh or sing the praises of his young son while boasting of him to whoever will listen is heartwarming. When he grieves, it is heart crushing. His dialog is peculiar, and even through the subtitles his mannerisms and dialect sets him apart as a foreigner in his own land. It's a sweeping drama of endurance, and well worth seeing. The final scenes are simply tear jerkers, even for this big, scruffy Texan.

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The Lost Battalion, Russell Mulcahy, A&E TV movie, USA

If you are my age, its hard to look at Rick Schroder without remembering where he got his start on cheesy TV sitcoms in the 1980s. He's always been kind of a joke.

I gained a little more respect for him when he played a great role in the epic TV series "Lonesome Dove", he did well. In this A&E film directed by Russell Mulcahy, "The Lost Battalion", he shines, and is perfect for the role. I have to admit that like the guy now. I really liked his character, and he quite thoroughly overcame my preconceptions.

This is the best WWI film for pure cinematic visuals that I have seen. Its filmed in 4:3 TV aspect ratio so its got a nice clean and crisp DVD picture, though it would have been magnificent in 6:9 wide screen. I wish they'd have done it for the big screen.

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Name Taken
07-21-2006, 12:45 AM
I took a Soviet and Russian film class in my last semester of college so I've seen Ballad of a Soldier and Come and See.

I loved Ballad of a soldier, I had seen it before but I've always enjoyed watching it. Very early thaw Soviet film showing that war isn't always glorious and patriotic.


Come and See is f*cked up. No real way of explaining it, it just shows how truly horrific and brutal war is. My professor was a Georgian lady who had studied cinema all her life, even worked with Kuleshov if I remember correctly. She didn't really like to show it because it was just so over the top with the gore and suffering.

If you want to get a basic impression of what the Eastern front was like, watch this film but be prepared to be numb at the end.

I've also seen the lost battalion, pretty good for a USA movie.

demotivater
07-21-2006, 12:49 AM
Interesting post and some nice captures, thanks.
I'd forgotten all about The Lost Battalion, hard to shake that Silver Spoons thing, though. :)

Ezra Coli
07-21-2006, 12:54 AM
Come and See is f*cked up. No real way of explaining it, it just shows how truly horrific and brutal war is....
If you want to get a basic impression of what the Eastern front was like, watch this film but be prepared to be numb at the end.


"Come and See" is indeed rough, its brutal and haunting, a very graphic film, but not graphic in the sense of teh beach scene in Pvt. Ryan, its just horrific in psychologial terms. What you see in these screen grabs is the most gory and visually graphic parts of the film really, its not blood and guts graphic as much as it is evil and cruel graphic. Very stunning and very powerful, one of my all time favorites for reminding me what tyranny is about. The scene with Glasha (the girl) wandering around after the Germans abducted her (and they didn't show it graphically but look at her, you know what horrors she suffered) made me nearly cry. Its one of those cases where you almost wished she had been mercifully killed instead. Chilling to the marrow.

Heron
07-21-2006, 12:58 AM
great post

nick_ua
07-21-2006, 03:38 AM
Come and See, Elem Klimov, Russian
This has got to be the most impressively stunning films I have ever seen. It left me feeling literally drained. In a nutshell, this is a coming-of-age story with the main character, 12 year old Floyra
iremeber I watch this movie at school.
They took whole school to watch it.
One of the most powerfull movie about the war, and clear picture of what German did for Belorussia.
One of the most power holocaust in a world history

Rugger Bugger
07-21-2006, 05:01 AM
iremeber I watch this movie at school.
They took whole school to watch it.
One of the most powerfull movie about the war, and clear picture of what German did for Belorussia.
One of the most power holocaust in a world history

This has to be the most powerful and shocking war film I have ever watched, I veiwed it some years ago and to be honest it numbed me....

Chapman2424
07-21-2006, 08:20 AM
Nothing tops riding around in a train - IN YOUR OWN HOUSE !

Super-solid!

Ezra Coli
07-21-2006, 10:54 AM
iremeber I watch this movie at school.
They took whole school to watch it.
One of the most powerfull movie about the war, and clear picture of what German did for Belorussia.
One of the most power holocaust in a world history

Wow, I wonder if they had the guts to show this film in America what the response would have been. I think all young adults should see it, if only as a reminder why we must stand defiant of all tyranny, always.

Ezra Coli
07-21-2006, 11:18 AM
Destiny of a Man, Kirill Alekseyev, USSR

I found this to be a beautiful film. I was gripped immediately when the man began his story as the boy played along the riverbank. This one caused me to have some disturbing dreams abou being in a prison camp.

This film was simply an emotional roller coaster. Putting aside any propaganda charges film viewers will lay on this film, it was a human endurance story and a champion of overcoming adversity. The viewer is treated to love - a joyful, pure love, and confronted with a horrible wickedness. The hero suffers, and suffers more, and nearly loses all hope. The most gripping scene was terribly tense as our hero stands ready to meet his death in the face of his most tormenting captors. He throws all caution to the wind, fully expecting death at any moment, and resigning himself to his fate he challenges his captors in an all out reckless dialog that had me dreaming of the scene later that night. Powerful stuff, and suspenseful.
The end is a wonderfully gentle time, and two common sufferers of mankind's evils come together as common brethren bound by experience, to love one another as father to son. Its a great story, if common, but well executed.
There are some fabulous scenes, visually speaking, just look at the screen grabs and their stunning compositions - they are crafted with much care. The scenes in the gulag are particularly cold and ominous, the use of spotlights and contrast really chills. Characters seem chosen for physical appropriateness as well, especially concerning the Germans. The film's German soldiers are calculated stereotypes of the generic evil nazi as a Soviet Russian might be "encouraged" to view him. The Nazi type takes joy in cruel assaults and coldly and openly casts fierce insults for humor's sake at the Russians. While certainly and obviously stereotypical, this characature actually adds to the story, though it might annoy closet Nazi apologists (and who doesn't enjoy annoying a Nazi?). A superb film, a great story of determined will. Another of my all time favorites.

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Fire and Ice (Documentary), Masterworks Media
http://www.mastersworkmedia.com/fireandice/


From the Masterworks description:
"This high-definition documentary film features authentic re-enactments of the Soviet Union's invasion of Finland, and reveals how Finland’s spirited 105-day defense in a “frozen hell” helped change the course of what would soon become World War II."

I liked this, it was pretty good. The reenactments were well done and the archive footage was fresh. Worthy of a look if you are remotely interested in history. Watch this, then watch "Winter War" by Pekka Perikka, the watch "Ambush" above.

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Winter War, Pekka Perikka, Finland

This is the finest Finnish war film in my opinion. It is the opposite of "Ambush" in that it is stoic and frank, there is little heroic bravado, but simply duty to country and to friends. It is a harsh film set in harsh climate, with harsh odds and stunning special effects. This is up there with the best of all war movies. It follows a few main characters and lets us into the Finnish mind a bit, it is paced slower than many films, but this adds to the particularly Finnish feel of the film. Rifles and equipment are awesome too.


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Dark Avenger
07-22-2006, 12:28 PM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/EzraColi/COME_AND_SEE/030.jpg What kind of light tank is this? It does not correspond to any type I know, but the running gear looks suspiciously like that of the post-war AT-P light armored tractor or ASU-57 series vehicles.
Got any more of pics of it, please?

Hecatonchiros
07-25-2006, 03:13 PM
Looks like somebody´s uploaded some clips from Talvisota to YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6uU4-htcWg&mode=related&search=talvisota

DE_Six
07-25-2006, 03:20 PM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/EzraColi/DARKBLUE/BLUE_17.jpg

They recycled scenes from Memphis Belle. You can see her trademark nose art on this shot. :)

Ezra Coli
07-28-2006, 04:40 PM
They recycled scenes from Memphis Belle. You can see her trademark nose art on this shot. :)

No, they recycled combat footage from the original raw film that Memphis Belle also used. They patched in a lot of other scenes from actual footage too but digitally colored and reworked them, so technically they didn't recycle film from Mephis Belle, just started with the same original source film.

They show how they did it on the DVD extras.
:)

Ezra Coli
07-28-2006, 04:49 PM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y26/EzraColi/COME_AND_SEE/030.jpg What kind of light tank is this? It does not correspond to any type I know, but the running gear looks suspiciously like that of the post-war AT-P light armored tractor or ASU-57 series vehicles.
Got any more of pics of it, please?

Don't have any more pics of it, but I suspect it was just a prop assembled for the film. It was only in the movie for a few seconds as it sped down the road, it was very fast.

Ivan1
07-29-2006, 08:17 AM
Some Band of Brothers photos for you:

http://bratrstvo.filmcity.cz/gfx/images/serial1_h.jpghttp://bratrstvo.filmcity.cz/gfx/images/serial2_h.jpghttp://bratrstvo.filmcity.cz/gfx/images/serial3_h.jpghttp://bratrstvo.filmcity.cz/gfx/images/serial6_h.jpghttp://bratrstvo.filmcity.cz/gfx/images/serial9_h.jpghttp://bratrstvo.filmcity.cz/gfx/images/serial11_h.jpghttp://bratrstvo.filmcity.cz/gfx/images/serial12_h.jpghttp://bratrstvo.filmcity.cz/gfx/images/serial14_h.jpghttp://bratrstvo.filmcity.cz/gfx/images/serial15_h.jpghttp://bratrstvo.filmcity.cz/gfx/images/serial21_h.jpghttp://bratrstvo.filmcity.cz/gfx/images/serial23_h.jpghttp://bratrstvo.filmcity.cz/gfx/images/serial26_h.jpghttp://bratrstvo.filmcity.cz/gfx/images/serial29_h.jpghttp://bratrstvo.filmcity.cz/gfx/images/serial31_h.jpghttp://bratrstvo.filmcity.cz/gfx/images/serial32_h.jpghttp://bratrstvo.filmcity.cz/gfx/images/serial33_h.jpghttp://bratrstvo.filmcity.cz/gfx/images/serial36_h.jpghttp://bratrstvo.filmcity.cz/gfx/images/serial37_h.jpghttp://bratrstvo.filmcity.cz/gfx/images/serial39_h.jpghttp://bratrstvo.filmcity.cz/gfx/images/serial41_h.jpg

pr0
07-29-2006, 09:36 AM
nice tread. if u r really interested in russian movies about WW2 then try to find also theese ones: "Cranes Fly" (Oscar winner afaik), "I Am The Russian Soldier" (about defenders of Brest`s fortress), "They Fought For Motherland".

pr0
07-29-2006, 09:38 AM
"Cuckoo" and "Hunting For A Unicorn" are very good too.

Ezra Coli
07-29-2006, 11:05 PM
nice tread. if u r really interested in russian movies about WW2 then try to find also theese ones: "Cranes Fly" (Oscar winner afaik), "I Am The Russian Soldier" (about defenders of Brest`s fortress), "They Fought For Motherland".


I have heard of a few of these but not all of them. For the Russian stuff, I am pretty much limited to what I can get online which is mostly from the Criterion collection. RussianDVD.com has some good ones too.