New Video Card

[MVSpartan117]

Hi all, I'm back from Mexico!

My birthdays coming up here soon and I'm gonna get a new video card (I have to pay for half of it! :( ) and I was wondering what you guys think I should get for around $300.

I have a P4 2.8ghz, Abit AI7 mobo, 1 gb of Kingston HyperX memory, and a SB Audigy 2.


thanks all

[memphiz]

how was Mexico?
id answer your question on the video card but....im not a computer wizz and i have no idea what you wrote

[MVSpartan117]

It was ok, the boat only stayed at cozumal (sp?) for like 12 hours, spend most of my time at the beach.

The cruise there was very boring though

[memphiz]

oh yeah, did you bring me back a Mexican :D


thats just a joke

[MVSpartan117]

Mexicans arn't as cheap as you think, sorry....


:lol:

[memphiz]

Damn

[Seraphim]

Nvidia has new drivers out...

If you have the money get a Radeon 9800...on newegg its going for 200, I think.

[MVSpartan117]

I've got like 300 for my new card, I wanna get the most bang for my buck.

I've got a radeon 9800, unfortunaly its the crappiest one that out and performs about the same as my old geforce 3

[memphiz]

i got my video card for free
geforce2 :)

[Seraphim]

Just goto anandtech or tomshardware...

[MVSpartan117]

Just goto anandtech or tomshardware...

why thank you kind sir

[Seoulstriker]

the newest video cards are going to be out within a month!!!

for $400 you will be able to get 2x the performance of current top of the line cards.

i'm not joking. NV40 and R420 are gonna rock! :D

[Haiw]

i got my video card for free
geforce2 :)
You mean:
geforce2 :(

[memphiz]

i got my video card for free
geforce2 :)
You mean:
geforce2 :(
pff i didnt have to pay for it, it does its job good. i might get a newer one later

[MVSpartan117]

the newest video cards are going to be out within a month!!!

for $400 you will be able to get 2x the performance of current top of the line cards.

i'm not joking. NV40 and R420 are gonna rock! :D


Fo shizzle, I figure I can make at least $75 selling my current 9800 hundred

NV40 or R420!?!

ER!

[Seoulstriker]

and i can't say this enough: you really should not buy any card right now, especially in the $300 range. the newest cards are going to kick the crap out of the latest (read: 2 years old) cards. TRUST ME. :|

[Seoulstriker]

NV40 and R420 are code numbers. NV38 is the latest nVidia card and R360 is the latest ATi card.



and you have a 9800??? and you want to 'upgrade'? :cantbeli: :)

[MVSpartan117]

and i can't say this enough: you really should not buy any card right now, especially in the $300 range. the newest cards are going to kick the crap out of the latest (read: 2 years old) cards. TRUST ME. :|

gotcha, i shall buy one of the new ones.

Do either of the new cards have an advantage over the other

[MVSpartan117]

NV40 and R420 are code numbers. NV38 is the latest nVidia card and R360 is the latest ATi card.



and you have a 9800??? and you want to 'upgrade'? :cantbeli: :)

Its the crappiest 9800 ever! Its made by saphire and cost like $150

[MVSpartan117]

I knew those were the code numbers, what I was saying was "what card should I buy?" ;) [/b]

[Seraphim]

New cards are not coming out within a month. It going to be about 2-4months.

[Seoulstriker]

well, that part gets a little tricky. the R420 is supposed to improve on its previous (extremely effective) strategy from 8x1 pipes to 12x1 pipes and increasing the number of vertex shaders to 8. supposedly the performance gained from that will be about 33%.

however, nVidia is supposed to go from 4x2 pipelines to 16x1 or possibly 32x1 with the use of vertex shaders as temporary texture pipelines. nvidia's previous design was great for multi-texturing because it could handle 2 texture units per pipeline, but they might just abandon the whole multi-texturing advantage and go for raw power.


that is why you absolutely must wait for the next cards. :)

[Seoulstriker]

New cards are not coming out within a month. It going to be about 2-4months.


nah, man. they're expected to 'debut' april 13th and ready for shipment late april/early may. :)

[Haiw]

well, that part gets a little tricky. the R420 is supposed to improve on its previous (extremely effective) strategy from 8x1 pipes to 12x1 pipes and increasing the number of vertex shaders to 8. supposedly the performance gained from that will be about 33%.

however, nVidia is supposed to go from 4x2 pipelines to 16x1 or possibly 32x1 with the use of vertex shaders as temporary texture pipelines. nvidia's previous design was great for multi-texturing because it could handle 2 texture units per pipeline, but they might just abandon the whole multi-texturing advantage and go for raw power.


that is why you absolutely must wait for the next cards. :)
I read some rumor that nVidia might go 8x2...just a rumor though.

[Seoulstriker]

haiw, that was a pretty early rumor. the 'most reliable' rumor has it at 16x1 and possibly 32x1 with use of vertex shaders as temporary pipelines with a sacrifice in image quality for those textures being rendered with the vertex pipes.


ATi is almost certain to have 8 vertex pipelines (from 2 i believe) with a 12x1 setup.

[Jack Mehoff]

NV40 and R420 are code numbers. NV38 is the latest nVidia card and R360 is the latest ATi card.



and you have a 9800??? and you want to 'upgrade'? :cantbeli: :)

Its the crappiest 9800 ever! Its made by saphire and cost like $150


Go run a 3dmark2001 and 3dmark2003 before you spend $$$$ for a new video card

[MVSpartan117]

I want them now!!!!

I want to play far cry on all the highest settings! :D

[MVSpartan117]

NV40 and R420 are code numbers. NV38 is the latest nVidia card and R360 is the latest ATi card.



and you have a 9800??? and you want to 'upgrade'? :cantbeli: :)

Its the crappiest 9800 ever! Its made by saphire and cost like $150


Go run a 3dmark2001 and 3dmark2003 before you spend $$$$ for a new video card

I have run 3dmark2003, I get like 2500 i think (compared to people with my same basic system setup that get like 5000 and up) , they all pretty much run choppy exept for the Airplane scene. (Wings of Fury, perhaps?)

[Jack Mehoff]

That's a crappy score for your video card. I got 5760 in 3dmark2003 with this setup:

AMD xp2500@2300mhz
Corsair 1024mb PC3200 400mhz
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro AIW 128mb
Asus A7N8X Deluxe

[MVSpartan117]

That's a crappy score for your video card. I got 5760 in 3dmark2003 with this setup:

AMD xp2500@2300mhz
Corsair 1024mb PC3200 400mhz
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro AIW 128mb
Asus A7N8X Deluxe

My point exactly, thats why Im getting a new one


I hope I didn't mess up somewhere when I built my computer....

[Seraphim]

You get what you pay for.

[jassemon]

My guess is that you have some 'stripped down' version of the Radeon 9800. You should go for the Pro-versions if you want good performance.

[MVSpartan117]

My guess is that you have some 'stripped down' version of the Radeon 9800. You should go for the Pro-versions if you want good performance.


I made the mistake of puchusing it.... :(

[Seoulstriker]

yeah, you probably bought the 9800 SE (**** edition). :(

oh well. it's good that it was cheap, though. when you upgrade to the next gen card, it'll blow your mind. :)

[MVSpartan117]

yeah, you probably bought the 9800 SE (**** edition). :(

oh well. it's good that it was cheap, though. when you upgrade to the next gen card, it'll blow your mind. :)


Can't wait :D