The psychosis that is conservatism

[Firetxmi]

In response to:http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=87319&highlight=psychosis


Breast isn't best: readers tell US parenting magazine

by Jocelyne ZablitFri Aug 4, 4:38 AM ET

Readers of a US parenting magazine are crying foul over the publication's latest cover depicting a woman breastfeeding, with some calling the photo offensive and disgusting.

"I was SHOCKED to see a giant breast on the cover of your magazine," one woman from Kansas wrote in reaction to the picture in Babytalk, a free magazine that caters to young mothers. "I was offended and it made my husband very uncomfortable when I left the magazine on the coffee table."

Her reaction was part of some 5,000 letters the magazine has received in response to a poll to gage reader sentiment about Babytalk's August cover photo, which shows a baby nursing.

Several readers said they were "embarrassed" or "offended" by the Babytalk photo and one woman from Nevada said she "immediately turned the magazine face down" when she saw the photo.

"Gross, I am sick of seeing a baby attached to a boob," the mother of a four-month-old said.

Another reader said she was "horrified" when she received the magazine and hoped that her husband hadn't laid eyes on it.

"I had to rip off the cover since I didn't want it laying around the house," she said.

A national television program also ran a segment on the controversy, interviewing several people in New York who expressed disgust over the cover photo.

The picture in Babytalk was aimed at illustrating the controversy surrounding breastfeeding in the United States, where a national survey by the American Dietetic Association found that 57 percent of those polled are opposed to women breastfeeding in public and 72 percent think it is inappropriate to show a woman breastfeeding on television programs.

Babytalk executive editor Lisa Moran said though most of those who responded to the poll about the cover photo gave the magazine a thumbs up, she was surprised that some 25 percent expressed outrage.

"There is a real puritanical streak in America," Moran told AFP. "You see celebrities practically baring their breasts all the time and no one seems to mind in this sort of sexual context.

"But in this very natural context of feeding your child, a lot of Americans are very uncomfortable with it."

She said the controversy is all the more surprising in light of concerted efforts by the US government and health professionals to encourage women to breastfeed.

"Everyone is saying that breastfeeding is best for baby but there is so little support for it in public," Moran said.

She said the Babytalk cover photo marks the first time a major parenting magazine in the United States dares to break the taboo about showing a woman's breast and the outrage it has prompted is not about to discourage editors from doing it again.

"This hasn't scared us off at all," Moran said. "We're thrilled and hopefully this will help women get more support for nursing."



Link:http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060804/od_afp/afplifestyleussocialbreastfeeding

Are you joking? People are offended by the natural process of feeding an infant displayed? Get a life!

[AFJROTC55]

no, i have to agree with them, i believe that putting something like this onto a mass communiction medium is a little burlesque, and racey, i support breast feeding because i do believe that it is better for a newborn but when magazines do things like this, they're not doint it because its actually applicable, its so that they can get people to look at it, plain old marketing ploy, and as stated, yes, women are very open about exposing they're bodies these days, its heavily endorsed among pop culture institutions and endorsed by the younger generations overall, and it is getting out of hand, the things that are allowed to be shown on Television and in print is riduclulous.

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[sferrin]

LOL! She was so "shocked" by it that she left it out on the coffee table for all to see.

[Firetxmi]

no, i have to agree with them, i believe that putting something like this onto a mass communiction medium is a little burlesque, and racey, i support breast feeding because i do believe that it is better for a newborn but when magazines do things like this, they're not doint it because its actually applicable, its so that they can get people to look at it, plain old marketing ploy, and as stated, yes, women are very open about exposing they're bodies these days, its heavily endorsed among pop culture institutions and endorsed by the younger generations overall, and it is getting out of hand, the things that are allowed to be shown on Television and in print is riduclulous.

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Showing a mother feeding a baby with the organ that is meant for that purpose is "burlesque?"

[AFJROTC55]

to me, yes it is, when used in that medium

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[Firetxmi]

to me, yes it is, when used in that medium

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Then I bet your the same kind of guy who thinks the doc gets a hard on when he has to check your penis. Its all about context man, all about context! If she were wearing tassles while doing it I might agree, but honestly.......

[HOLLiS]

Not everyone shares the same sense of modesty, it does not have to all of one thing and non of the other. I would think being in public would require a more prudent sense of modesty.

The complex issue is making it "legal or Illegal" is defining it. Maybe if worked for a correctional treatment facility for sexual preditors you advocate more restraint. While person believes it is their right to "flaunt" what they got without the intrusion of another, the preditor really does not care about that person's rights.

I think your title is off, It seems you are saying Convervatives recognizes the evil that lerks in some people is a Psychosis? It is not paranoia to recognize there are some really nasty people in the world.

[HR24]

I'm gonna object because there is a baby in the way of me seeing this lady's breasts! That's what I'm disturbed about! ;)

In all seriousness, just popping the titties out in public and feeding your baby as a statement of breaking a societal norm or taboo is ridiculous to me. Get a breast pump, fill some bottles, and then go out in public. If the mother hasn't got a bottle of breast milk while out with her child, and they've GOT to breast feed their kid in public, do it in a tasteful manner and cover yourself up.


My two cents.

[Bia]

Breasts are for feeding children.

Men.......no no....you're fun is all superfluous.

To be threatened by a boob.....might as well call yourself Archie Bunker and find a time machine.

Unreasonable Conservatives consistantly crack me up.
Repressed wankers is what you are.

[Eddy]

This is what awaits you America:

http://www.frhavn-gym.dk/opslag/Burka-a7.jpg

[joe mama]

Are you joking? People are offended by the natural process of feeding an infant displayed? Get a life!

While I personally am not the least bit offended by it, nor am by seeing a woman breastfeed in public (as long as she's a milf), would you honestly be surprised if people were offended by the natural process of making an infant being displayed? They're all just natural processes and human body parts we all have etc etc...

[AFJROTC55]

joe mamma, thankyou for reminding me, Firetmxi you say people shouldnt be offended by somone exposing an organ and doing what its designed to do whilst in public, couldnt the same thing be said for sex in public, no, that is illegal, but wait you say, they're doing what they're supposed to do with what they're supposed to do it with, i would say that runs along the same lines, wouldnt you.

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and i have no idea what you thinking that i think that the doc rocks one while he's checkin me out has to do with anything so... and i had to find some way of insulting you so here:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/EMANAFPJ/ea2c5120.png
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b124/EMANAFPJ/8c7113c5.jpg

[HR24]

While I personally am not the least bit offended by it, nor am by seeing a woman breastfeed in public (as long as she's a milf), would you honestly be surprised if people were offended by the natural process of making an infant being displayed? They're all just natural processes and human body parts we all have etc etc...

Indeed. Why even have public restrooms? Why not take a pisser on the sidewalk when I feel like it? It's a natural process involving human body parts and everybody does it......

And Joe Mama, I'm with you....if it's a milf, I'm all for it. ;)

[AFJROTC55]

of course, no one hate on MILFs, MILFS STRONG11!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[psycho+logical]

In response to:http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=87319&highlight=psychosis



Link:http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060804/od_afp/afplifestyleussocialbreastfeeding

Are you joking? People are offended by the natural process of feeding an infant displayed? Get a life!

x9999999 couldnt have said better

[Jaguar]

Sexual repression, no wonder overweight is so spread in US :D

[2Sheds_Jackson]

Are you joking? People are offended by the natural process of feeding an infant displayed? Get a life!

Yeah, natural processes are great. Be sure to check out the cover of next month's Newsweek magazine, it features a close-up of my a-hole backing a huge log out onto the dinner table. What? It's all natural. What are you,the Taliban? You must be if you find such an innocent, purely natural function to be inappropriate for your kid to view.

[HR24]

Yeah, natural processes are great. Be sure to check out the cover of next month's Newsweek magazine, it features a close-up of my a-hole backing a huge log out onto the dinner table. What? It's all natural. What are you,the Taliban? You must be if you find such an innocent, purely natural function to be inappropriate for your kid to view.

LMFAO!!!!!! That is one of the funniest retorts I've seen in some time. Good one 2Sheds.

[Secret Squirrel]

Breasts are for feeding children.

Men.......no no....you're fun is all superfluous.

To be threatened by a boob.....might as well call yourself Archie Bunker and find a time machine.

Unreasonable Conservatives consistantly crack me up.
Repressed wankers is what you are.

heh wankers. That's a good description for the majority who are offended and view this as something more than feeding a baby.:D

[2Sheds_Jackson]

heh wankers. That's a good description for the majority who are offended and view this as something more than feeding a baby.:D

Now, you don't actually think that they're offended because they see it as something sexual do you? Death is just about the most natural thing there is, right? Well, would you like your children to see a pile of rotting corpses on the cover of Ranger Rick magazine? And if not, is that because you see it as something sexual? I sure hope not. How about some weirdo using a Black & Decker self-trepanning kit to expand his mind?

The sad fact is, that we all have our own "line" of what is acceptable. Yes, even those of you who have taken the dangerously controversial position of being OK with everything. This has nothing at all to do with sexual repression and everything to do with traditional concepts of modesty and privacy.

I don't want to see people picking their noses, rearranging their balls, pulling their tits out of their bra cups to make sure their nipples are horizontally even, squeezing zits, wiping the green goo off their baby's ass, giving themselves an enema - or a host of other things that have nothing to do with what interests me sexually. Ok the tit-rearranging thing does a little.

There is breast feeding, then there is breast feeding. My wife breast fed both our kids in public, but in out-of-the-way locations, and covering herself for modesty's sake. If we drop all notions of modesty, we'll have trailer park gals wipping their flapjacks out to squirt Bobby Joe down at the Circle-K parking lot as a joke, and just taking their shirts off at the Olive Garden to give Kyle Jr. a drink. I don't need to see the smudged and faded dragon tattoo with their 3rd husband's name on it on their greasy back when I'm trying to eat my sausage and peppers rustica, thank you very much.

[HOLLiS]

There is breast feeding, then there is breast feeding. My wife breast fed both our kids in public, but in out-of-the-way locations, and covering herself for modesty's sake. If we drop all notions of modesty, we'll have trailer park gals wipping their flapjacks out to squirt Bobby Joe down at the Circle-K parking lot as a joke, and just taking their shirts off at the Olive Garden to give Kyle Jr. a drink. I don't need to see the smudged and faded dragon tattoo with their 3rd husband's name on it on their greasy back when I'm trying to eat my sausage and peppers rustica, thank you very much.

I think that abouts sums it all up, respect for other people along with respect for yourself. Good manners are "good manners".

[Kampfbaer]

Welcome to Americanistan!

Honestly I fail to see what shall be wrong with the picture of a baby sucking a breast on the cover of a magazin. Hell if I go to a newsagent buying a paper there are a whole lot of naked or near naked women on several magazines (just tits without babys).

I don´t know of anyone who´s got psychological damage from seeing boobs or a baby sucking some.

The cultural rift between Europe and the US couldn´t be clearer.

[marge]

The cultural rift between Europe and the US couldn´t be clearer?

What is clear to me is that minor details cload Europe's mind.

Look at the bigger picture, like 50 miles down road.

[Bellissima]

Sexual repression, no wonder overweight is so spread in US :D

Non sequitur.

[AFJROTC55]

Welcome to Americanistan!

Honestly I fail to see what shall be wrong with the picture of a baby sucking a breast on the cover of a magazin. Hell if I go to a newsagent buying a paper there are a whole lot of naked or near naked women on several magazines (just tits without babys).

I don´t know of anyone who´s got psychological damage from seeing boobs or a baby sucking some.

The cultural rift between Europe and the US couldn´t be clearer.

no, see, people do take offense to that, i dont totally appreciate it, thats the conservative republican 40+ year old bigot in me, then there's the actual 17 year old hormone driven teenager side of me (the real me) who doesnt mind seein a health dose of T&A when he runs up to the Walmart Neighborhood Market for pop top soup and .58 cent two liters.

i think that burlesque and racy images in American society is just more of a fact of life now, it sells, what can one say, and you cant argue with George Washington or Benjarmen (pardon the spelling) Franklin now can you, people have become accustomed to seeing this sort of thing, there was outcry like this when PB and Hustler and Penthouse etc etc started up too, but they just kept doin their thing and eventually, unfortunately, people got over it.

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[Kampfbaer]

With cultural rift I mean the rising of strong religous beliefs in the US (born again christians) while in (western) Europe the role of the church is decreasing fast, at least in urban areas.

Personally, I don´t see nudity as a threat, as long as the people don´t couple in the street, it´s okay with me. I doubt, that a mother breastfeeding her child on a park benchwould cause much trouble here, I´ve seen it on the subway more than once and I´m still alive!

[XShipRider]

In response to:http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=87319&highlight=psychosis



Link:http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060804/od_afp/afplifestyleussocialbreastfeeding

Are you joking? People are offended by the natural process of feeding an infant displayed? Get a life!

So you title your rant "The psychosis that is conservatism"????????!

Conservatives believe breast feeding is the natural way. Liberals believe
bottle feeding is better. That way they can throw their kid into full-time,
state run or supported daycare, allowing someone else to raise their
child.

All kidding aside, it floors me when nuts focus on the breast, one used
to nurture a baby, rather than the completely natural act itself. Most
women are quite discrete in their approach to breast feeding unlike
the cover. But to be "offended" by a cover - the woman is living in
the 1800s. Note how she took the time to read the offensive magazine
anyway then laid it down face up so her husband could squirm. Maybe
she was trying to send a message to the ol' geezer.

[Firetxmi]

Ok. I can see where some of you are coming from on not wanting to see some stuff. I can even agree that it is a personal "line" that is drawn. I'm even sure a lot of it has to do with how and where you were raised (culturally influenced). My problem is this- When people take it upon themselves to tell me what I need to not see or see. I can understand not putting rotting bodies, bowel movements, etc on the cover of a magazine. However, most cultures, including a lot of people in America, do not consider breast feeding in public a sexual thing, nor do they consider it vulgur. When people try and force a baby magazine (a magazine targeted at expectant mothers/mothers who will or are presumably feeding their children and wait, wait, get this- some even with their breasts) to apologize for putting a tasteful picture (hell, no nipple is even shown because the youngun' is happily eating) on the cover, I have to wonder about this nations priorities.

My favorite quote though was from the lady who was extremely concerned her husband had seen the picture. Good God! :roll:

I work in a hospital type setting. I can tell you that a line is drawn between sexual and medical. When I have to cut the shirt off of some lady (no matter how hot she is) how nice her tits are is not my first concern, but helping her live is. Just like when the doc is giving you a prostate exam, he is a professional (we hope :D ) and is not thinking of playing with your junk thats "just around the corner". ;)

[Herrmannek]

Now, you don't actually think that they're offended because they see it as something sexual do you? Death is just about the most natural thing there is, right? Well, would you like your children to see a pile of rotting corpses on the cover of Ranger Rick magazine? And if not, is that because you see it as something sexual? I sure hope not. How about some weirdo using a Black & Decker self-trepanning kit to expand his mind?

The sad fact is, that we all have our own "line" of what is acceptable. Yes, even those of you who have taken the dangerously controversial position of being OK with everything. This has nothing at all to do with sexual repression and everything to do with traditional concepts of modesty and privacy.

I don't want to see people picking their noses, rearranging their balls, pulling their tits out of their bra cups to make sure their nipples are horizontally even, squeezing zits, wiping the green goo off their baby's ass, giving themselves an enema - or a host of other things that have nothing to do with what interests me sexually. Ok the tit-rearranging thing does a little.

There is breast feeding, then there is breast feeding. My wife breast fed both our kids in public, but in out-of-the-way locations, and covering herself for modesty's sake. If we drop all notions of modesty, we'll have trailer park gals wipping their flapjacks out to squirt Bobby Joe down at the Circle-K parking lot as a joke, and just taking their shirts off at the Olive Garden to give Kyle Jr. a drink. I don't need to see the smudged and faded dragon tattoo with their 3rd husband's name on it on their greasy back when I'm trying to eat my sausage and peppers rustica, thank you very much.
not that i have wife, but except that x2.. although I like to pick my nose and arange my balls when noone sees :)

[Bellissima]

not that i have wife, but except that x2.. although I like to pick my nose and arange my balls when noone sees :)

In what order?