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In the 13 of april i will be in your country!!!
:D
We are going to visit the death camp and so on.
with my school. argg 980$.
Sad thing is that we can't allowed to talk with polish people... :(
BTW: for 7 days trip a 200$ will be ok?
(without including food).
Catch22
03-31-2004, 06:31 AM
Jeez... You aren't allowed to talk? are they paranoid or something? Few weeks ago I actually had a chat with some of Israeli people in Cracow, in bar, they were also on this type of trip... How old are you? I understand security concern and stuff but nonetheless it sound weird to me... :roll:
1$ = 3,8 zloty to its around 800 zlotys, its a fair sum If you mean to spend it on gifts or something... Depends on your drinking habits ;)
Ah, and be prepared to face something you'll probably never forget - I mean Oświęcim (Auschwitz) Konzentration Lager, have a while to think it over after you leave it... Im preety serious here. :|
Mr Gently Benevolent
03-31-2004, 06:32 AM
Sad thing is that we can't allowed to talk with polish people... :(
Why not? :(
Jeez... You aren't allowed to talk? are they paranoid or something? Few weeks ago I actually had a chat with some of Israeli people in Cracow, in bar, they were also on this type of trip... How old are you? I understand security concern and stuff but nonetheless it sound weird to me... :roll:
Yes...belive me i think is too much paranoid. :(
We aran't allowed to say that we are jews...or from israel..we can't go with "david star" we can't go with shirts or something we hebrew stuff...
we arna't allowed to say where we going and so on....
:(
+ we go with 2 "shabak" people (something like the FBI in the USA).
BTw: can you answer on my que?
Mr Gently Benevolent
03-31-2004, 06:39 AM
Yes...belive me i think is too much paranoid. :(
We aran't allowed to say that we are jews...or from israel..we can't go with "david star" we can't go with shirts or something we hebrew stuff...
we arna't allowed to say where we going and so on....
:(
+ we go with 2 "shabak" people (something like the FBI in the USA).
Sorry to hear that UoUo, you will miss out on the best part of any trip abroad and that is interacting with the locals. :(
Catch22
03-31-2004, 06:44 AM
Hehehhe - yesterday in subway I've seen guy i IDF cap on with logo ;) . I often wear my Krav Maga t-shirts (and they have huge letter slogans in Hebrew, UZIs and stuff). Well I'm sure there's a antisemitism in Poland, but this sort of separation and alienation you're talking about UoUo really scares me... Besides I doubt if its a good way to learn something.
As I said 200$ should be enough... But you know the more the better - take 300 if you can - exchange rate should be around 1 to 3,8.
Hehehhe - yesterday in subway I've seen guy i IDF cap on with logo ;) . I often wear my Krav Maga t-shirts (and they have huge letter slogans in Hebrew, UZIs and stuff). Well I'm sure there's a antisemitism in Poland, but this sort of separation and alienation you're talking about UoUo really scares me... Besides I doubt if its a good way to learn something.
As I said 200$ should be enough... But you know the more the better - take 300 if you can - exchange rate should be around 1 to 3,8.
Yeah....i got you...i know that not everyone there is antijew...but still we Are just doing this to be safe.
And still we will have the time to talk with people in "varsa" mall....and i think we will be in the "krakov" market.
And yes...i will take 300$...just to be sure...how much "amacdonalds" meal cost there?
Yes...belive me i think is too much paranoid. :(
We aran't allowed to say that we are jews...or from israel..we can't go with "david star" we can't go with shirts or something we hebrew stuff...
we arna't allowed to say where we going and so on....
:(
+ we go with 2 "shabak" people (something like the FBI in the USA).
Sorry to hear that UoUo, you will miss out on the best part of any trip abroad and that is interacting with the locals. :(
Yes...but still maybe i will have the chance to talk with polish in the death camp...and still i going to talk with.
Herrmannek
03-31-2004, 06:51 AM
Jeez... You aren't allowed to talk? are they paranoid or something? Few weeks ago I actually had a chat with some of Israeli people in Cracow, in bar, they were also on this type of trip... How old are you? I understand security concern and stuff but nonetheless it sound weird to me... :roll:
Yes...belive me i think is too much paranoid. :(
We aran't allowed to say that we are jews...or from israel..we can't go with "david star" we can't go with shirts or something we hebrew stuff...
we arna't allowed to say where we going and so on....
:(
+ we go with 2 "shabak" people (something like the FBI in the USA).
BTw: can you answer on my que?
This doesn't help in fixing our international/interpersonal relations :|. I would even say it make them even worse...You came here and you will know **** about us as well we will know **** about you only thing people will remember that we stood on other side of fence...IMHO It is more provoking than having David's stars all around and singing Jewish songs...
As for money it's enough
Jeez... You aren't allowed to talk? are they paranoid or something? Few weeks ago I actually had a chat with some of Israeli people in Cracow, in bar, they were also on this type of trip... How old are you? I understand security concern and stuff but nonetheless it sound weird to me... :roll:
Yes...belive me i think is too much paranoid. :(
We aran't allowed to say that we are jews...or from israel..we can't go with "david star" we can't go with shirts or something we hebrew stuff...
we arna't allowed to say where we going and so on....
:(
+ we go with 2 "shabak" people (something like the FBI in the USA).
BTw: can you answer on my que?
This doesn't help in fixing our international/interpersonal relations :|. I would even say it make them even worse...You came here and you will know **** about us as well we will know **** about you only thing people will remember that we stood on other side of fence...IMHO It is more provoking than having David's stars all around and singing Jewish songs...
As for money it's enough
Yes but you must remmber....we go as a group...it's not a personal trip...
There fore we must do as we told to do.
HELEX
03-31-2004, 06:55 AM
I think this security concerns have not much to do with antisemitism. But there are many people from muslim countrys living in Europe....
Catch22
03-31-2004, 06:56 AM
Hehe - whole "menu" at Mac will cost you around 12 zloty. But I'd try some local food if I were you - not everything is made of pork meat anyway ;)
And there arent many Muslims in poland, those who are like some tatars - doesn't have antisemitic approach.
Hehe - whole "menu" at Mac will cost you around 12 zloty. But I'd try some local food if I were you - not everything is made of pork meat anyway ;)
And there arent many Muslims in poland, those who are like some tatars - doesn't have antisemitic approach.
That good...pretty chip. :D yes and i will try to east some local food...but I am a afraid it will be pork....and the owner of the shop will not Understnant me.
BTW: i heard form a very good friend of mine she told me that you have Quite nice a country....even very nice country. :D She told me that she Enjoyed the visit...and the part with the death cams and stuff was very Very sad.
I think this security concerns have not much to do with antisemitism. But there are many people from muslim countrys living in Europe....
Yes...we told not talk we the people in the hotel cus there many muslims that don't like us there.
Piotrek
03-31-2004, 07:05 AM
Well its sad that You are not allowed to talk with Poles...sure ther are anti-semits in Poland but I bet that You can find them in every single country in the earth..I'm afraid that in this way Polish-Antisemit stereotype is strengthened.
I'm curious which monuments You gonna see in Poland (beside Auschwitz Lager) - I wouldnt like You to remember Poland only as place where Nazist Germany builded death camps.
Well its sad that You are not allowed to talk with Poles...sure ther are anti-semits in Poland but I bet that You can find them in every single country in the earth..I'm afraid that in this way Polish-Antisemit stereotype is strengthened.
I'm curious which monuments You gonna see in Poland (beside Auschwitz Lager) - I wouldnt like You to remember Poland only as place where Nazist Germany builded death camps.
I know that there are anti-semits in all over the world...but you must see...we can't take a chance...i am soory.
And don't woory...we gonna visit a few more things in you country...not only the death camps..
When i'll be in poland i will take pic's and will post them there....
And don't woory...we in israel don't think that everyone in poland are jew hater.
Herrmannek
03-31-2004, 07:09 AM
Yes but you must remmber....we go as a group...it's not a personal trip...
There fore we must do as we told to do.
This isn't a problem for Germans who picks our chicks and drink our beer with us ;)
Yes but you must remmber....we go as a group...it's not a personal trip...
There fore we must do as we told to do.
This isn't a problem for Germans who picks our chicks and drink our beer with us ;)
Hmmm :lol:
I am just 17. :D
They told us...that there are great "bar" in the hotel. but we can't get in. :(
Don't woory..we will find the way.
Herrmannek
03-31-2004, 07:19 AM
but I am a afraid it will be pork....and the owner of the shop will not Understnant me.
Regret..many of best polish dishes includees pork, pork fat or other pigs parts ...You live once, just don't ask for ingredients before eating :)..I hope this will save you from deadly sin or whatever you call it in jewish...
but I am a afraid it will be pork....and the owner of the shop will not Understnant me.
Regret..many of best polish dishes includees pork, pork fat or other pigs parts ...You live once, just don't ask for ingredients before eating :)..I hope this will save you from deadly sin or whatever you call it in jewish...
:D
Don't woory...are group bringing food from israel. (kosher).
BTW: as i think about that...most of us look like arabs....
Not me (white skin with blond hair).
And if you walk in "warsa" streets and you see bunch of ugly kids wals and yell it's other...be sure...it gonna be us.
No..No...just kidding.
(not me cuz i am just hot!!). :lol: :lol:
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