View Full Version : Best MRLS - photos!?
SerbPVO
03-31-2004, 10:06 AM
I nominate M-87 "ORKAN"
The M-87 Orkan is a Serbian 12 tube 262 mm MRL that was jointly developed with Iraq. It is in service in Iraq under the name Ababil-50. The M-87 has a range of about 50 km.
http://naoruzanje.paracin.co.yu/orkan1.jpg
http://naoruzanje.paracin.co.yu/orkan2.jpg
http://naoruzanje.paracin.co.yu/orkan3.jpg
http://naoruzanje.paracin.co.yu/orkan4.jpg
http://naoruzanje.paracin.co.yu/orkan5.jpg
http://naoruzanje.paracin.co.yu/orkan6.jpg
http://naoruzanje.paracin.co.yu/orkan7.jpg
mustamato
03-31-2004, 10:25 AM
Looks quite interesting. I know that the Finns have a bunch (was it 70 systems,
hmhm, or something like that) of the 122 mm RM-70, and is pleased with the
performance of it. However they want something with a larger calibre, that
can deliver submunitions as well.
M-87 "Orkan" seems to be something like that. But the truck could be armoured
to give protection against shrapnels atleast. And NATO standardized calibre
as well, then were are talking. The Finns could quite easily build something
similar themselves, using in example the technology from the MTO-85 system
in use to fire anti-ship missiles.
http://www.mil.fi/maavoimat/kalustoesittely/pics/sivu155.jpg
MTO-85
http://www.artreg.mil.se/images/local/dumpersida.jpg
Swedish Haubits 77 B Dumper/L45, the howitzer could be changed to MRL-tubes,
vehicles like this is quite common in the forest industry, so a lot of civilian spare parts
etc could be used.
Hate mail
03-31-2004, 10:47 AM
In the summer of 1991., Yugoslav Federal Army intercepted/seized a Lebanese (I think) ship at the Ploce harbor on the Adriatic coast, which was carrying thousands of GRAD 122mm missiles intended for Croatian irregular forces, probably from places like Iran and Eastern Europe.
Then they made a smart engineering adjustment to some of our "OGANJ" 128mm MLRSs, so they could fire 122mm stuff.
mustamato
03-31-2004, 10:49 AM
Then they made a smart engineering adjustment to some of our "OGANJ" 128mm MRLSs, so they could fire 122mm stuff.
Like what, put a barrel inside the barrel? Hm, that is why small countries always
should use the calibre of the enemy, so that captured stuff can be used :)
Hate mail
03-31-2004, 10:54 AM
Yes, an inside barrel.
Like during training, when you shoot from an old US tank, only the training round is 20mm caliber rather than 82 or 90mm, as it also goes through one of those "embedded" barrels.
Hate mail
03-31-2004, 11:01 AM
By the way, our "OGANJ" 128mm MLRS is a badass piece of weaponry.
I've seen it fire on the enemy, I've been fired upon with it (as many of those systems were captured by the Croatians from the garrisons of the YU army there), I've seen what it does.
Scary ****.
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/m-77.htm
mustamato
03-31-2004, 11:04 AM
Yes, an inside barrel.
Like during training, when you shoot from an old US tank, only the training round is 20mm caliber rather than 82 or 90mm, as it also goes through one of those "embedded" barrels.
Old US tank? :D
Itīs used very much still today, in example on the Swedish Leopard 2īs, and
they are not very old. Itīs simply a matter of economy. As for the AT-4 anti-
tank weapon, well very few people in Sweden gets to shoot a real one, must
gets to shoot dozens and dozens of 20 mm minigrenades in a inside barrel.
http://www.mds.mil.se/goteborgsgruppen/images/local/040307instrutb4.jpg
20 mm practice version, the beauty is that the round has the exactly
same ballistics as the real thing, thus itīs quite realistic, it has tracer etc.
Oganj, itīs the same as BM-21 Grad pretty much?
Hate mail
03-31-2004, 11:10 AM
When I was in "boot camp" training, they took us one day to a mountain range many miles outside the town to fire from a 1940s US tank (82mm).
Former Yugoslavia had hundreds of those, as they were given to us by the Americans after 1948, because we resisted Stalin.
deutschersoldat
03-31-2004, 11:18 AM
this is a german mars, in usa it is called mlrs
http://www.bundeswehr.de/pic/wir/040112_500_pk_mars.jpg
http://www.panzer-modell.de/referenz/in_detail/mars/Bild144g.jpg
http://www.panzerbaer.de/guns/pix/bw_rakwrf_mars-032.jpg
http://www.waffenhq.de/panzer/mars-05.jpg
Russian Texan
03-31-2004, 12:32 PM
Smerch 300mm MLRS
Minimum range 20km
Maximum range 70km
http://www.rusarm.ru/Images/Smerch3.jpg
http://www.rusarm.ru/Images/Smerch4.jpg
http://www.rusarm.ru/Images/Smerch2.jpg
Video
http://www.aviation.ru/www.rusarm.ru/video/9K58_Smerch_MLRS.wmv
Stavka
03-31-2004, 12:36 PM
That Smerch thing is a beauty! :lol:
Speaking of AT-4: I got to fire one, nah nah nah nah rofl
RomanS
03-31-2004, 01:36 PM
SMERCH
ohhh yeaaaahhh
Chechen terrorists always nervous when they hear the sound of Smerch
Herrmannek
03-31-2004, 01:40 PM
How accurate "mlrs" are?
Then they made a smart engineering adjustment to some of our "OGANJ" 128mm MRLSs, so they could fire 122mm stuff.
Like what, put a barrel inside the barrel? Hm, that is why small countries always
should use the calibre of the enemy, so that captured stuff can be used :)WRONG!! They always should use a bit larger calibre (for artillery 76 mm recoiless is 0,1 mm). Trick is You can use enemy's ammo, he can't use Yours captured. It's the useful feature in hard terrain - mountain or jungle partizan wars.
Operation Ivy
03-31-2004, 04:58 PM
Im gonna love this thread :D
woot MLRS
http://www.haaland.info/norway/army/bilder/mlrs-2.jpg
http://www.bulba.eu.org/mil/free/mlrs/mlrs(5).jpg
http://www.usma.edu/dmi/MT/Branches/FA/Mlrs2.gif
http://www.pancerni.to2.pl/zestrakiet/mlrs.jpg
Awsome!
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/mlrs/images/mlrs18.jpg
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/mlrs/images/mlrs4.jpg
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/mlrs/images/mlrs6.jpg
http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/photos/gulf_war/058_08.jpg
Steve Railsback
03-31-2004, 05:04 PM
[quote="Operation Ivy"]Im gonna love this thread :D
Awsome!
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/mlrs/images/mlrs18.jpg
I'm giving my vote to the MLRS, it's just so ****ing awsome!!!
woot woot woot
Hate mail
03-31-2004, 05:21 PM
Yeah. Especially when you've been in the theater of combat operations for 24 hours, sleeping in some old lady's wooden cabin at 5:00 am on a dull december morning, only to hear one fire the entire salvo of 32 missiles from a field 40 meters away (not even knowing one was there). :)
I thought it was our own jets bombarding us or something. rofl
MaDuce
03-31-2004, 05:24 PM
Stalin Organ=Win
http://www.military.cz/panzer/tanks/soviet_union/katusa/image/katusa_1.jpg
RomanS
03-31-2004, 05:51 PM
The American MRLS is a one sweet looking babe
RuSoKaR
03-31-2004, 08:02 PM
what? :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli:
you forgot about Tos-1 woot
http://pvo.guns.ru/weapon/images/mdf34921.jpg
http://pvo.guns.ru/weapon/images/200007_08_01/tos.jpg
but there aren't too many picts of it :( [/img]
haze99
03-31-2004, 09:13 PM
Yes, Finland(?) obtained RM-70's from the former East German Army. The RM -70 is a Czechoslovak produced 122mm MRL. (Sorry, don't have any images of it, to post!)
Greece obtained a number of East German RM-70's too. Indonesia has some, but I believe these came from the Czech or Slovak Republics?
Yard Ape
03-31-2004, 09:50 PM
HIMARS
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/himars12.jpg
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/himars4.jpg
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/himars-980730-A-0089G-003.jpg
MLRS
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/mlrs-DASC8409096_JPG.jpg
DeutschBrasilianisch
03-31-2004, 10:32 PM
Astros II (Artillery Saturation Rocket System)
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/astros/images/astros1.jpg
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/astros/images/astros7.jpg
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/astros/images/astros5.jpg
http://www2.janes.com/public/defpicgal/20020116.jpg
http://www.defesanet.com.br/noticia/armasbrazil/Image25.gif
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/astros/images/astros4.jpg
http://www.defesanet.com.br/desertstorm/fotos/astros.jpg
Astros-III
http://veiculosmilitares.vila.bol.com.br/brasil/Astros-III.JPG
He219
04-01-2004, 12:03 AM
Remember these from March 1st?
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040301/t/r3900439217.jpghttp://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040301/t/r1181779260.jpghttp://cache.*****images.com/thumb/3029677.jpg?x=x&a=3029677&b=afp&t=1http://cache.*****images.com/thumb/3029644.jpg?x=x&a=3029644&b=afp&t=1http://cache.*****images.com/thumb/3029635.jpg?x=x&a=3029635&b=afp&t=1
http://cache.*****images.com/thumb/3029687.jpg?x=x&a=3029687&b=afp&t=1http://cache.*****images.com/thumb/3029686.jpg?x=x&a=3029686&b=afp&t=1http://cache.*****images.com/thumb/3029777.jpg?x=x&a=3029777&b=afp&t=1http://cache.*****images.com/thumb/3029768.jpg?x=x&a=3029768&b=afp&t=1
http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3029644.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=18D4FCD9EB7D70EF12D39493D9148EE5
MAHAJAN FIRING RANGE, INDIA: An Indian army Multi Barrel Rocket Launcher fires a salvo during a Indian Army and Air Force fire power demonstration at Mahajan Firing Range, Rajasthan,some 530 kms west of New Delhi,01 March 2004. Indian Defence Forces displayed their latest infantry weapons and tanks during the demonstration for media representatives. AFP PHOTO/RAVEENDRAN (Photo credit should read RAVEENDRAN/AFP/***** Images)
mustamato
04-01-2004, 04:17 AM
Aaah, HIMARS, given that the Finns seems to be pleased with their RM-70īs
and are looking for something similar, this could very well be what they end up
buying. In Finland the MRLīs is used in batteries organized under a army corp, so
their main role is to support the brigades in combat, and well simply the ability
to deliver submunitions would be nice. Difficult with "small" 122 mm rockets,
easier with something as the HIMARS:
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/himars/images/HIMARS_13.jpg
HIMARS
http://www2.mil.fi/maavoimat/joukot/tykpr/122_rakh_89.jpg
RM-70 already used, the similarities is quite obvious
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/himars/images/himars7.jpg
HIMARS firing the ATACMS that has a range of 300 km
Actually the Smerch has a max range of 90km... not 70km.
There is talk of fitting the rockets with winglets to increase range by at least 40%.
The 300mm Smerch is capable of carrying submunition rounds and lots of other types of warhead including guided anti tank submunitions (MMW radar guided with SFF warheads), as well as FAE and various chem and bio warhead types.
tenda
04-01-2004, 05:48 AM
Smerch 300mm MLRS
Minimum range 20km
Maximum range 70km
http://www.rusarm.ru/Images/Smerch3.jpg
http://www.rusarm.ru/Images/Smerch4.jpg
http://www.rusarm.ru/Images/Smerch2.jpg
Video
http://www.aviation.ru/www.rusarm.ru/video/9K58_Smerch_MLRS.wmv
........... from russia.........with love...... ;)
FDF_Hemppis
04-01-2004, 06:19 PM
My vote goes for this one:
http://www.pulju.net/shop/images/vekottimet/missile_launcher2_2.gif
This just has to be the most useful toy, ever :D
Marmot1
04-01-2004, 06:30 PM
Then they made a smart engineering adjustment to some of our "OGANJ" 128mm MRLSs, so they could fire 122mm stuff.
Like what, put a barrel inside the barrel? Hm, that is why small countries always
should use the calibre of the enemy, so that captured stuff can be used :)WRONG!! They always should use a bit larger calibre (for artillery 76 mm recoiless is 0,1 mm). Trick is You can use enemy's ammo, he can't use Yours captured. It's the useful feature in hard terrain - mountain or jungle partizan wars.
So now I get why fins use some soviet tanks - to have crews prepared to use captured equpment just like last time ;)
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