Agence France-Presse (AFP) reporters = spies

[Webley]

I find it a little too convenient that a film crew from Agence France-Presse (AFP) was there to film that ambush in Fallujah this morning.

Does anyone here remember that other French news film crew were traveling with those insurgents that fired a surface to air missile at that airplane? Those reporters filmed themselves and the insurgents going around town, driving past US troops while disguised with keffiyehs wrapped around their faces.

I think the Agence France-Press reporters should be treated like the enemy spies that they are.

[Yard Ape]

How do you figure they are spies?

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

I think the Agence France-Press reporters should be treated like the enemy spies that they are.
Groan...........please stop. :(

[HELEX]

This is another BS thread, even ME thinks that.

[SerbPVO]

Well, if we're gonna go into conspiracy theories...what about all those CNN cameras on the rooftops of New York on 9/11, like they were ready to film.

[Argyll]

I find it a little too convenient that a film crew from Agence France-Presse (AFP) was there to film that ambush in Fallujah this morning.

Does anyone here remember that other French news film crew were traveling with those insurgents that fired a surface to air missile at that airplane? Those reporters filmed themselves and the insurgents going around town, driving past US troops while disguised with keffiyehs wrapped around their faces.

I think the Agence France-Press reporters should be treated like the enemy spies that they are.


Are you some stoopid 12 year old?Your Logic defies belief.
Try wondering who tipped the insurgents about the vehicles in the first place ....it sure as hell wasn't the press you idiot,take a close look at your Iraqi Police over this one

[Uncle Sam]

Try wondering who tipped the insurgents about the vehicles in the first place ....it sure as hell wasn't the press you idiot,take a close look at your Iraqi Police over this one

Agreed... Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer

[Webley]

Their was a French film crew embedded with the insurgents that fired that missile at the airplane, the photos of which are here on this website. There was an Agence France-Presse (AFP) film crew that were embedded with the insurgents in that ambush this morning in Fallujah.

The French government and much of the French public are against the coalition's efforts in Iraq and they wish for our efforts there to fail. The Agence France-Presse (AFP) film crews have gone beyond their "nuetral status" by collaborating with the insurgents in these attacks.

Agence France-Presse (AFP) should be kicked out of Iraq and their reporters should be treated like the spies and saboteours that they are.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Their was a French film crew traveling with the insurgents to film their attacks on coalition forces when they fired that missile at the airplane.

It is also obvious that an Agence France-Presse (AFP) film crew were part of that ambush this morning in Fallujah.

We know that the French public and the French government is against the coalition's efforts in Iraq and they wish for our efforts there to fail. The Agence France-Presse (AFP) film crews have gone beyond their "nuetral status" by collaborating with the insurgents in these attacks.

Agence France-Presse (AFP) should be kicked out of Iraq and their reporters should be treated like the spies and saboteours that they are.
You don't give up do you. Who is the bloke in your avatar by the way.

[-Max2-]

We know that the French public and the French government is against the coalition's efforts in Iraq and they wish for our efforts there to fail. The Agence France-Presse (AFP) film crews have gone beyond their "nuetral status" by collaborating with the insurgents in these attacks.



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[Webley]

That AFP French film crew were part of that ambush this morning.

I notice too that alot of the people flaming me here were gloating over that attack in Falluja in another thread.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11339&sid=af03685887d537a04a215b13f4b4b56d


Read on, they pretty much damn themselves there.

[morlick]

:cantbeli:
The journalists of afp are in league with the terrorists of Falluga ?????
You can say that they are responsible of the 9/11 attack also?

[mocking_loudly_died]

Speak the truth brother!

My mom was responsible for the rise of the Australian currency.
Moon men live in my nose.
Spanking your kids turns them into communists.

ALL FACTS!

[Webley]

:cantbeli:
The journalists of afp are in league with the terrorists of Falluga ?????
You can say that they are responsible of the 9/11 attack also?

They were with them to film the SAM attack on that airplane, they were there to film the ambush on the civilian contractors.

We also know that the French wish for the coalition to fail in Iraq.

[mocking_loudly_died]

:cantbeli:
The journalists of afp are in league with the terrorists of Falluga ?????
You can say that they are responsible of the 9/11 attack also?

They were with them to film the SAM attack on that airplane, they were there to film the ambush on the civilian contractors.

We also know that the French wish for the coalition to fail in Iraq.

Oh my god, you're an idiot.

[Webley]

:cantbeli:
The journalists of afp are in league with the terrorists of Falluga ?????
You can say that they are responsible of the 9/11 attack also?

They were with them to film the SAM attack on that airplane, they were there to film the ambush on the civilian contractors.

We also know that the French wish for the coalition to fail in Iraq.

Oh my god, you're an idiot.


You don't have a problem with French reporters being embedded with the terrorists?

[morlick]

"The french conspiration again coalition"

[California Joe]

If the beret does not fit you must acquit

[Webley]

"The french conspiration again coalition"

-sniff- hmm.. smells like a frog.

[Webley]

If these AFP film crews are going to be embedded with the terrorists as they make attacks on coalition forces, then they should be treated like spies IMHO.

[Dave the Dawg]

It is not a French thing.

It's a media thing.

In 1987, at a panel discussion on the media at Montclair State College, Peter Jennings, ABC News anchor, and Mike Wallace, CBS 60 Minutes reporter, were being questioned. Jennings was asked what he would do if he were invited as a journalist to accompany troops of an imaginary adversary nation called North Kosan on a military mission that would result in the ambush and death of American troops who were allies of South Kosan, a country being invaded by North Kosan. Reportedly, Jennings replied after thinking about it, "I think that I personally would do what I could to warn the Americans." Wallace jumped in: "I think some other reporters would have a different reaction. They would regard it simply as a story they were there to cover. You're a reporter. I'm a little bit at a loss to understand why, because you're an American, you would not have covered that story." The moderator asked Wallace, whether Jennings had some higher duty, either patriotic or human, to do something other than just roll film as soldiers from his own country were being shot. Wallace replied "No. You don't have a higher duty. No. No. You're a reporter!"

Retired general and panelist Brent Scowcroft jumped in: "What's it worth? It's worth thirty seconds on the evening news, as opposed to saving a platoon." The moderator followed up: "What about that? Shouldn't the reporter have tried to warn the Americans?" Wallace: "I don't know." Jennings backed down and joined the Wallace line: "I wish I had made another decision. I would like to have made his decision."

Another example of journalistic ethics happened when CNN's medical correspondent was travelling as an embedded reporter with a Marine unit. After an incident, as the only doctor available, he treated several wounded Iraqi civilians. He also treated several Marines at other times. This led to a big "ethical" debate over whether he should have stepped out of his saintly objective journalist's role to become part of the story by operating on a wounded child. Many journalists eventually agreed that it was OK for him not to stand by and watch the child die, but the fact that they even had that debate speaks volumes.

[Truthsayer]

If the journalists DO tell the OTHER side (i.e. if the french reporter would have tipped of the americans) then they would have been spies, for the americans, right?

What would have been the consquens? Perhaps journalists and reporters would loose their protective shields of being 'independant' and be labeled spies, and therefor shoot upon sight. Is that what you want?

They are there as observers and their task is to observ and report [afterwards]. Not to change the course of history.


Their was a French film crew embedded with the insurgents that fired that missile at the airplane, the photos of which are here on this website.

Url?



Edit: freaking quote-url fubar by me. :]

[Caribou Kid]

So therefore, according to this stream of logic, if Time magazine devotes a cover story to the two sides of the Iraqi conflict, and does a piece on an american soldier and an Iraqi resistance fighter, then they too are in league with the Terrorists, huh?

It's called Objective Journalism, eh. Otherwise known as givng a balanced story, mate; Giving both sides of the conflict a chance to give their opinion. Otherwise you end up being a mouthpiece for only one side, and become a spokesperson/ Propaganda tool.

Just because the story didn't come from YOUR choice of media formats doesn't make them terrorists, okay. If the world thought along your lines, dude, woodward and Bernstein would have been arrested as treasonous malcontents who were disloyal to the POTUS, instead of revealing Nixon to be the true scumbag that he was. Put the tinfoil hat back on it's peg, buddy, it's cutting off the circulation to the logic centers of your cranium.
:P

[Webley]

The French are against the coalition efforts in Iraq and their reporters are embedded with the insurgents. That they are part of the ambush teams on coalition forces makes them acceptable targets IMHO. They're no better than spies and enemy propagandists.

If a reporter can't give first-aid when he has the free time to do so, then they can get their information from a public relations officer in London or Washington rather than out on the front.

[Truthsayer]

I think the Agence France-Press reporters should be treated like the enemy spies that they are.


Agence France-Presse (AFP) should be kicked out of Iraq and their reporters should be treated like the spies and saboteours that they are.


If these AFP film crews are going to be embedded with the terrorists as they make attacks on coalition forces, then they should be treated like spies IMHO.

Sixgun, is that you?


(The mantra is to repeat, repeat, repeat, and some will listen.)

[Webley]

So therefore, according to this stream of logic, if Time magazine devotes a cover story to the two sides of the Iraqi conflict, and does a piece on an american soldier and an Iraqi resistance fighter, then they too are in league with the Terrorists, huh?


I don't see Time-Life reporters being embedded with the terrorist insurgents in Iraq.

Objective Journalism? Maybe they are embedded with these insurgents when it is your squad being ambushed.

[Kitsune]

He is back...

[Webley]

I think you have me confused with someone else.

[raid]

hey Webley, use the two last brain cells you got to think about that:
Do you think that the images those reporters took are actually in favor of the scumbags who desacrated those people's bodies?
I'm not judging what they have/should/shouldn't have done, but in the end, don't you think that this is the kind of pictures that will make the public opinion realize how those ****ing insurgents should be dealt with? Do you really feel that this is the kind of picture any normal westerner will enjoy seing, no matter how pro or anti war he is?

[Webley]

The US population is upset about it sure, but there were many here on this forum that were gloating over it.

That is why the AFP reporters were there, they wanted to film the ambush because they know that many of the anti-American Left in Europe and Canada would enjoy the spectacle.

Again, you need to click onto that link I posted above to the thread where many of the haters here on this forum were gloating over the deaths of those murdered Americans.

[Flagg]

I find it a little too convenient that a film crew from Agence France-Presse (AFP) was there to film that ambush in Fallujah this morning.

Does anyone here remember that other French news film crew were traveling with those insurgents that fired a surface to air missile at that airplane? Those reporters filmed themselves and the insurgents going around town, driving past US troops while disguised with keffiyehs wrapped around their faces.

I think the Agence France-Press reporters should be treated like the enemy spies that they are.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/newyork/series/interview/images/trump.jpg

"Webley...You're fired!"

[Upfrontreporting]

Christ all mighty..... what a crock of **** statement, how the hell can you come to the conclusion that AFP work as spies for the insurgents :cantbeli:

If you care to check the news you will find that apart from AFP, AP and ******* were also present at this ambush site. Further more the video clips broadcast yesterday of said incident, showed the news-crew driving up to the ambush-site in a car = meaning they were not there during the ambush.

Get the facts right.




regards.
Upfrontreporting

[ZedroS]

BTW, it seems to me that the French's reporters just filmed the launching of a SAAM or something like that but no plane were in fact aimed at (but it doesn't changed the stuff a lot I agree).

In fact it produces some rows in France over this stuff, to know whether the reporter had pay the men for that. It appears he didn't and then the whole stuff went far away in the news : it was just some show off, nothing really interresting !

Still BTW, as a French, I can say that I was, personnaly, against the war because I feared for the kind of BS we now see in Iraq. But now that the "coalition" is inside, I think the Occidental world (so France included) must win and install something reliable over there, otherwise it will be really bad for all of us (and them). Moreover, I really think most of the French agree this.

[Jehuty]

I remember this Newsweek i read at the end of 2003.
Few journalists interviewed some insurgents and took pics of them...OMG KILL TEH DAMN SPIES!!!!!

Moron those French journalists didn't shoot at Americans soldiers, they took pics and stayed neutral, and that's what i expect them to do as journalists.It's classic investigation work.
The way you constantly post that French government opposed to the war on Iraq shows that you only jump on a small story to fit some political agenda p-)

BTW none here want to see the Americans failed and Irak get back into chaos and dictatorship, get that in your silly head please :bash:

[HELEX]

Iraq will not fall back into Dictatorship again, they will fall back to Islamic fundamentalism. That is really a bigger mess....

[Uncle Chô]

I find it a little too convenient that a film crew from Agence France-Presse (AFP) was there to film that ambush in Fallujah this morning.

Does anyone here remember that other French news film crew were traveling with those insurgents that fired a surface to air missile at that airplane? Those reporters filmed themselves and the insurgents going around town, driving past US troops while disguised with keffiyehs wrapped around their faces.

I think the Agence France-Press reporters should be treated like the enemy spies that they are.

You are right but they half failed in their mission. Much to their dismay, the DHL airplane was an Airbus (Made in Europe) and not a Boeing or a McDonnell-Douglas... Luckily, it did finally not crashed.

All those froggies must be nuke ASAP !

rofl

[HELEX]

You are right but they half failed in their mission. Much to their dismay, the DHL airplane was an Airbus (Made in Europe) and not a Boeing or a McDonnell-Douglas... Luckily, it did finally not crashed.

All those froggies must be nuke ASAP !


Stop it, you communist, pacifist gay euro pussiwussi. You are not allowed to talk in an all american Topic against cheese eating surrender Monkeys.... rofl :lol:

Sorry... ;) Viva la France woot

Greetings from the country 54% of the american people believe of is still ruled by a chancellor named Hitler.

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I can't believe how sad sixgun is to keep coming back like that

[Uncle Chô]

Stop it, you communist, pacifist gay euro pussiwussi. You are not allowed to talk in an all american Topic against cheese eating surrender Monkeys.... rofl :lol:

Sorry... ;) Viva la France woot
:| Lass mich in Ruhe Helex... Ich bin mit deiner Meinung nicht einverstanden. Leave me alone.

[HELEX]

I'm interested, what is my opinion. What do you think? p-)

[Ichhabe]

That is why the AFP reporters were there, they wanted to film the ambush because they know that many of the anti-American Left in Europe and Canada would enjoy the spectacle.



I am on the left side in Europe. Can't say that I liked that spectacle.


And just a little "think about it for a while information": Thanks to those "spying" journalists as you so nifty put it: Now the Coalition has crispy sharp pictures for easy ID of those criminals.
Who's helping who now? Eh(Of course not of the insurgents, but those who mutilated the corpses. wich is a terrible criminal act if you ask me.)

[Argyll]

Webly is using the same IP service as out old nemesis Six Gun Shooter/symphony.............I'll leave the rest of the detective stuff to you lot ;)

His Location is nowhere near London by the way

[Argyll]

I can't believe how sad sixgun is to keep coming back like that

Well done Sherlock.........pour yourself a pint ;)

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I can't believe how sad sixgun is to keep coming back like that

Well done Sherlock.........pour yourself a pint ;)

elementary, my dear ..... Argyll.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Here was me thinking it was some sort of Al Murray character we had on this time. http://www.bbc.co.uk/coventry/funstuff/stories/2002/10/images/al-murray-bar270.jpg
Al's character is not very keen on the French or any other non UK subjects. :lol:

[Webley]

"Among the coalition of the “unwilling,” large majorities in Germany, France and Russia still believe their countries made the right decision in not taking part in the war."

Where they show themselves was by their silence when the mass graves were discovered..

[HELEX]

These Massgraves were from Iraq-Iran War in the 80s or from the "America will help you..." uprisig.
And they werent "discovered", it was well known where they are. :cantbeli:

[Haiw]

I couldn't be arsed to read trough those 3 pages of crap, but am I the only one thinking Sixgun's back? :|

Time to unpack the ban hammer...

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"Among the coalition of the “unwilling,” large majorities in Germany, France and Russia still believe their countries made the right decision in not taking part in the war."

Where they show themselves was by their silence when the mass graves were discovered..

stop pretending to be English, Sixgun, you are completely unconvincing

[Fenna]

Yeah, leave now or keep digging. Don't you have any friends away from the computer who will accept your rants?

Wait a minute, there are so many groups of people who you hate, I'd be surprised if you had any friends. :bash:

[Korth]

What a bunch of arselicks.

[Argyll]

What a bunch of arselicks.


Mutiple accounts are not allowed on this forum Captain Kirk

[Uncle Chô]

"Among the coalition of the “unwilling,” large majorities in Germany, France and Russia still believe their countries made the right decision in not taking part in the war."

Where they show themselves was by their silence when the mass graves were discovered..
:bash: It is time to find the nest and destroy the eggs !

http://cdsandiego.com:16080/globalmobile/CDSD/images/gallery/galspecial/alien%20eggs.jpeg

[OldRecon]

:cantbeli:
The journalists of afp are in league with the terrorists of Falluga ?????
You can say that they are responsible of the 9/11 attack also?

They were with them to film the SAM attack on that airplane, they were there to film the ambush on the civilian contractors.

We also know that the French wish for the coalition to fail in Iraq.

rofl rofl rofl

Well, were those journalists filming similar scenes with the mujahedin in Afghanistan before the the Soviets pulled out spies for the mujahedin??

Where that blond curly haired journalist from METV http://www.metv.org/index.cfm/fa/home, that usually was a sign of trouble breeding for us NORBATT guys in Lebanon 6 times out of 10 when he showed up, a spy for the Israelis?

No doubt one of the reasons for such guys being in the right place at the right time for a "scoop", is that they to some measure have the benefit of trust from a party to the conflict.
Thus as the French have made their position that clear, with regards to the US lead invasion of Iraq (more or less that it would not be worth the trouble to invade Iraq (and must to some extent admit I share that view myself)), it isn't exactly surprising that French journalists have some doors open to them that's closed to other western journalists.
Similarly western journalists had doors open to them vs. Mujahedin during the Soviet/Afghan war that no East bloc journalist could ever dream of.
As for the working relationship between IDF and METV in the security zone days in Southern Lebanon, well?? Only thing I know is that they were the only foreign news chanel with a guy more or less permanently stationed i Maryajoun.
Use to have some fun watching ourselves from "the other side" in METV-news when they had succeeded in scooping a fracas we had been involved in :lol:.
On the other hand if you're a squaddie I'm in no doubt you can feel somewhat pissed off when you see yourselves on tv from the angle of those who shoot at you (and have no problem understanding that either).

As for the prospect for the coalition ever to be able to reestablish peace and normality in Iraq, that Saddam was willing to gas his own people to keep his fiefdom, not only speak a lot about the man, but also quite a lot about what it takes to keep Iraq together also.
After all when the British more or less ruled in Iraq between WW-1 and WW-2, employment of the RAF in so called "air controll" (threathening to bomb and/or bombing the villages of miscivous clans/tribes if they didn't aggree to back down) was all the vouge.
Not that Iraqis will not benefit from more individual freedom in the long, long run. But when subdued people are led off the leash "just like that", instead of carefully over a protracted period, you get mayhem in return.
To stamp your impression on the Iraqi people as an occupant, you will have to be prepared to stay for a looooOOONG time (at least 50 years).
Look at how long it took to settle things in NI, and they still have some way to go to reach the finish line (though I guess the prospects for that doesn't look too bad, considering what they've been through. Hope they make it :|).
But this isn't Nam either, as the strategic consequences for the coalition pulling out prematurely will be much, much graver than with Nam.
Though that things would lead to the present quagmire, wasn't all that unpredictable aye?? And with that cancer thing how many more years could Saddam excpect to evade "the reaper" anyway?

[FrogMan]

Just to add a technical point of view, i heard during a french tv show that sometimes the journalists are not on location, but they manage to get a copy of the tape recorded during the operation by the terrorists themselves. They just deal with people that know people that know people... you get the drill.

[Uncle Chô]

Where that blond curly haired journalist from METV http://www.metv.org/index.cfm/fa/home, that usually was a sign of trouble breeding for us NORBATT guys in Lebanon 6 times out of 10 when he showed up, a spy for the Israelis?
French journalists on duty are very easy to spot (despite trying to disguise like a local with a "mustache") :

http://www.exult.co.uk/images/36122.jpg

And I haven't seen any in Iraq yet.

[Korth]

Fallujah is in the heart of the "Sunni triangle" where the insurgents are said to be the strongest. The information I have is that the Sunni muslims were a privileged minority under Saddam Hussien and they wish for the old Baathist party regime to be restored.

I have also read somewhere that the Sunni muslims pretty much lorded it over the majority Shiite muslims when Saddam was in power.

I heard on the radio that there will be a new Iraqi government in place by June. They will need a strong police to enforce their laws. Well I see an obvious solution. Hire more and more of the Iraqi police from the Shiite muslim majority. I am sure that the majority Shiites can keep the Sunni muslim minority in line.

[Yard Ape]

They were with them to film the SAM attack on that airplane, they were there to film the ambush on the civilian contractors.

We also know that the French wish for the coalition to fail in Iraq.How much spy work can they be doing if they are always with the insurgents?

[Korth]

They were with them to film the SAM attack on that airplane, they were there to film the ambush on the civilian contractors.

We also know that the French wish for the coalition to fail in Iraq.How much spy work can they be doing if they are always with the insurgents?

More like partisan media that is in sympathy with the insurgents. I would assume that Webley's point about them being spies is a technicality as they have camera's pointed at troops and military equipment. He is just looking for a legal technicality that will allow him greater liberties to shoot them.

My thinking is that if I see some hostile journalists (propagandists) embedded with the enemy, then they are the enemy.

[Fenna]

That's strange, as soon as people thought Webley was Sizgun, Korth steps in to back him up :lol:

How sweet :lol:

[Yard Ape]

More like partisan media that is in sympathy with the insurgents. I would assume that Webley's point about them being spies is a technicality as they have camera's pointed at troops and military equipment. He is just looking for a legal technicality that will allow him greater liberties to shoot them. His selection of words is what has brought half the riddicule. He could have called them assasins based on these facts and sounded no less assinine. They are not spys and he has presented nothing to suggest otherwise. Therefore, regardless of his purpose in selecting to call them spys, the basis of his argument to ban them is gone when the facts do not add up to them being spyies.

More fact, less hype.

[Korth]

Suppose there were foriegn journalists with IRA sympathies embedded with some Provo's in Northern Ireland. They are there to film an ambush of British troops in Northern Ireland and you then see the images on television news with some anti-British commentary.

Tell me that you would not want a piece of them.

[Yard Ape]

Tell me that you would not want a piece of them.They are still not spies.

[Korth]

Tell me that you would not want a piece of them.They are still not spies.

What would you call them? I think the word "enemy" would be acccurate.


On a technical note, when someone points a camera at military equipment and personel. Could it not be enough to meet the technical requirements of espionage? Assuming that one is looking for the legal opportunities to shoot the journalists.

[Yard Ape]

What would you call them?You are the one advocating thier being punted. You tell me what they should be called.

BTW, how should journalists embedded in US units & formations be treated if captured?

[Pégase]

@ Sixgun

stop your multiples accounts, and get a life

[Webley]

how should journalists embedded in US units & formations be treated if captured?

Journalists that are embedded with military units would get POW status. The jounalists that are embedded with terrorists should be treated like terrorists.

[Yard Ape]

Journalists that are embedded with military units would get POW status. The jounalists that are embedded with terrorists should be treated like terrorists.I believe you will find that war correspondents have specific rights through internationally recognised law.

[Webley]

Journalists that are embedded with military units would get POW status. The jounalists that are embedded with terrorists should be treated like terrorists.I believe you will find that war correspondents have specific rights through internationally recognised law.

They step over the line when the collaborate with terrorists.

[Yard Ape]

They step over the line when the collaborate with terrorists.But, are they collaborating with terrorists or are they following members of an armed resistance group (protected under international law)? Whatever arguments you make do not have to convince the members of this forum; the would have to convince a court of law.

[Haiw]

Let's just say that...hypothetically, some Camera Group X would be embedded with an insurgent group. Then that's still not collaboration. It would be collaboration if they would help with the attacks...
But that's propably way above your scizofrenic head. :roll:

[Webley]

Many here have expressed sympathy with the terrorists, so I am not trying to convince those individuals.

[Fenna]

Where has anyone expressed sympathy with "the terrorists"?

By terrorists, I suspect you mean anything remotely anti US foreign policy?

[jean-marc6969]

Do you know guys how work a news agency ?
They pay locals to have good news subjects and reportages mostly
They don t have money to send millions and millions of reporters to all the "hot spots" we have on earth
It seems it was the case for one of the worse day in iraq for a while with these graphic images we have seen lately
And about the movie with the SAM attack the guys who recorded it were not from AFP :cantbeli:

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Many here have expressed sympathy with the terrorists, so I am not trying to convince those individuals.

lol

coming from the guy plastered the board with allahu ahkbar, whilst parading around pretending to be Osama bin laden.

Change your location and your avatar I don't want people thinking scum like you are english

[Haiw]

Why isn't this account banned already anyway? Damnit... Hood should stop having a life and be around 24/7 to ban Sixgun! :P