View Full Version : Iraq and Al Quaeda
M1A2U2
03-31-2004, 04:06 PM
Some facts I found interesting. On 9/11 every sinlge arab league state sent their condolences to the US excpet for 1. Iraq. On this same day, before the attacks happened, Iraq moved all of its military forces away from it's military installations. This was not a routine move. Why would they do this just before the planes struck if they had no idea about it? Although many deny it, the Czech government still remains firm on its asserstion that an Iraqi Official met with and Al Quaeda official in prague. Although highly unknown, record have been uncovered showing Iraqi diplomats who travled to Iraq in secret by car and hiked through the moutain to slip past detection. All these are facts and if you dont believe me I will waste my time to find the sources.
Argyll
03-31-2004, 04:11 PM
I think you need to post something more substantiated,as even the US State Dept and the CIA did not notice these very things you have indicated.
Try not to make such a post without linking facts along with it.
I could provide links to the theory that No plane hit the Pentagon as well,does this make it a fact?...........don't bother answering!
Some facts I found interesting. On 9/11 every sinlge arab league state sent their condolences to the US excpet for 1. Iraq. On this same day, before the attacks happened, Iraq moved all of its military forces away from it's military installations. This was not a routine move. Why would they do this just before the planes struck if they had no idea about it? Although many deny it, the Czech government still remains firm on its asserstion that an Iraqi Official met with and Al Quaeda official in prague. Although highly unknown, record have been uncovered showing Iraqi diplomats who travled to Iraq in secret by car and hiked through the moutain to slip past detection. All these are facts and if you dont believe me I will waste my time to find the sources.
Sorry but i have to say i dont agree with that presumption.There could have been a variety of reasons that they could have done that.Find credible sources and link them so we can see
Yard Ape
03-31-2004, 04:41 PM
All these are facts and if you dont believe me I will waste my time to find the sources.Start wasting.
California Joe
03-31-2004, 05:16 PM
Don't be retarded. Unless Rush Limbaugh and Condoleeza Rice are your parents you have no reason to try arguing this. I know better. Period.
farmgirl
03-31-2004, 05:25 PM
Don't be retarded. Unless Rush Limbaugh and Condoleeza Rice are your parents you have no reason to try arguing this. I know better. Period.
Oh sure, Joe.... start bragging about your top security clearance.... ;)
Seriously.... if this was the case... don't you think that it would be broadcast EVERYWHERE??? I mean... think about it. People are critisizing GWB for hitting Iraq, and if such documentation existed, he'd be sending it out in flyers.
One can say anything, but it doesn't make it so, and one can find websites to substantiate nearly any theory. Make sure the sources you quote are credible and verifiable.
Flagg
03-31-2004, 05:43 PM
Some facts I found interesting. On 9/11 every sinlge arab league state sent their condolences to the US excpet for 1. Iraq. On this same day, before the attacks happened, Iraq moved all of its military forces away from it's military installations. This was not a routine move. Why would they do this just before the planes struck if they had no idea about it? Although many deny it, the Czech government still remains firm on its asserstion that an Iraqi Official met with and Al Quaeda official in prague. Although highly unknown, record have been uncovered showing Iraqi diplomats who travled to Iraq in secret by car and hiked through the moutain to slip past detection. All these are facts and if you dont believe me I will waste my time to find the sources.
I agree......on a seperate note, did you know the world is flat?
It must be true...it says so right here:
http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/FlatWhyFlat.htm
M1A2U2
03-31-2004, 08:12 PM
Because you all seem to be uneducated, Im gonna rewrite all the sources because I dont feel like it. But I will tell you that they are in the book Losing Bin Laden as well as ann coulters book treason. there is credible evidence to everything they claim in the back of the book. Get up as your lazy asses and try reading something.
California Joe
03-31-2004, 08:16 PM
Ann Coulter is a shrewish, strident media whore that makes the Fox news channel look like they work for Ted Kennedy. Jesus H. Christ.
JiJoMacLE45
03-31-2004, 08:33 PM
Ann Coulter is a shrewish, strident media whore that makes the Fox news channel look like they work for Ted Kennedy.
Fox News drove a car off a bridge. Huh? ;)
Jesus H. Christ!
You rang.
Salty Dog
03-31-2004, 08:33 PM
Some facts I found interesting. On 9/11 every sinlge arab league state sent their condolences to the US excpet for 1. Iraq. On this same day, before the attacks happened, Iraq moved all of its military forces away from it's military installations. This was not a routine move. Why would they do this just before the planes struck if they had no idea about it? Although many deny it, the Czech government still remains firm on its asserstion that an Iraqi Official met with and Al Quaeda official in prague. Although highly unknown, record have been uncovered showing Iraqi diplomats who travled to Iraq in secret by car and hiked through the moutain to slip past detection. All these are facts and if you dont believe me I will waste my time to find the sources.
i'll decide that...
usa320
03-31-2004, 08:44 PM
I dont doubt the report that Iraqi agents met with Atta in prague, but it cant be confirmed, so i wont say its dead true.
Did Iraq have an active role in 9-11? My guess is most certainly not. But did they have a supportive role? Absolutely. They definately gave money to terrorists, and they definately allowed Ansar-Al Islam, a group that is affilaited to Al Queda, to operate completely and utterly unchallenged within their nation.
my personal feelings are that Iraq (as well as Afghanistan and Iran) more than likely knew that Something big was going to go down in the United states, but they just didnt know how, what, where and when.
The bottom line is, their involvement or lack thereof in 9-11 aside, Iraq clearly supported Islamic militancy- and to this day i stand with the president in saying that Iraq had the capacity to very easily make Chemical and Biological weapons, and was very willing to pass them along to 'agents' not affiliated with any government, to do the dirty work for them.
Iraq had to be dealt with. We could have waited until the threat was more dangerous and more imminent, we could have waited until they had long range ballistic missiles or nuclear weapons, and it would have been far more costly to do so. We took, without a doubt in my mind- the appropriate action at the right time. Also note the political impact of our success in Iraq will have in the future landscape of the Muslim world- A Muslim Democracy, in the heart of the middle east, with all the Freedom of a western country. It could be the one thing that is necessary to push reform from medieval and brutal theocracies that support anarchy and terrorism to lawful, democratic and peaceful nations in the middle east.
Flagg
03-31-2004, 11:10 PM
Because you all seem to be uneducated, Im gonna rewrite all the sources because I dont feel like it.
UNeducated? NO, UNwilling to accept your UNsubstantiated claims? YES
BTW...speaking of uneducated...check the grammar in the first and last sentences you wrote.
But I will tell you that they are in the book Losing Bin Laden as well as ann coulters book treason. there is credible evidence to everything they claim in the back of the book.
I may pull one or both from the library some day.....but everything I've read from respected and impartial authors claim otherwise.
Get up as your lazy asses and try reading something.
I read constantly....I'm fortunate enough to have heaps of reading free time...but thanks fo asking!
farmgirl
03-31-2004, 11:14 PM
:cantbeli: Read? Why do I need to read? I've got experts like you to tell me everything I need to know. :roll:
ps Thanks Flagg.... I had missed the memo regarding the world being flat. I'll be spreading the news. ;)
Flagg
03-31-2004, 11:20 PM
ps Thanks Flagg.... I had missed the memo regarding the world being flat. I'll be spreading the news.
No worries....remember, be careful near the edge.
Mr Gently Benevolent
04-01-2004, 12:44 AM
Absolutely. They definately gave money to terrorists, and they definately allowed Ansar-Al Islam, a group that is affilaited to Al Queda, to operate completely and utterly unchallenged within their nation.
Check your facts usa320 Ansar-Al Isalm were based in the Northen no fly zone and were operating with the collusion of some Kurdish factions so if Iraq made a move against them they would have had the **** bombed out of them by guess who? yep we the allies.
You also fail to take into account that Saddam was on Al-Q's hit list and that they were really trying to stir things up in Iraq, you may not have noticed but Al-Q are not very fond of secular Arab countries even ones ruled by dictators, hell they even hate Irans ruling council so go figure that one out.
WARPIG
04-01-2004, 09:09 AM
Stop fishing. Spinning conspiracy because you read something is just asking for it.
At best, Iraq was in the loop with Al-queda but not supporting them. Maybe they knew what was going on but supporting it just doesn't make sense. If having "links" to Al-queda directly or indirectly qualifies as being in bed with them.. then the US is also supporting them. Some how, US money and people were involved in allowing the 9-11 attacks. That doesn't qualify as relationship between the US and Al-queda.
I have no doubt that there are some individuals from Iraq that had a lot to do with Al-queda. It's just not enough to create a link. If it was.. I think George W. would be all over it already.
HELEX
04-01-2004, 09:15 AM
Some facts I found interesting. On 9/11 every sinlge arab league state sent their condolences to the US excpet for 1. Iraq. On this same day, before the attacks happened, Iraq moved all of its military forces away from it's military installations. This was not a routine move. Why would they do this just before the planes struck if they had no idea about it? Although many deny it, the Czech government still remains firm on its asserstion that an Iraqi Official met with and Al Quaeda official in prague. Although highly unknown, record have been uncovered showing Iraqi diplomats who travled to Iraq in secret by car and hiked through the moutain to slip past detection. All these are facts and if you dont believe me I will waste my time to find the sources.
This exactely is the kind of stuff that made me become the Flamewarrior I am. :roll:
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