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Jeremiah
08-16-2006, 08:28 AM
By Rick Lyman
The New York Times, August 15, 2006
www.nytimes.com . . .

The number of immigrants living in American households rose 16 percent over the last five years, fueled largely by recent arrivals from Mexico, according to fresh data released by the Census Bureau.

And increasingly, immigrants are bypassing the traditional gateway states like California and New York and settling directly in parts of the country that until recently saw little immigrant activity — regions like the Upper Midwest, New England and the Rocky Mountain States.

Coming in the heart of an election season in which illegal immigration has emerged as an issue, the new data from the bureau’s 2005 American Community Survey is certain to generate more debate. But more than that, demographers said, it highlights one reason immigration has become such a heated topic.

“What’s happening now is that immigrants are showing up in many more communities all across the country than they have ever been in,” said Audrey Singer, an immigration fellow at the Brookings Institution. “So it’s easy for people to look around and not just see them, but feel the impact they’re having in their communities. And a lot of these are communities that are not accustomed to seeing immigrants in their schools, at the workplace, in their hospitals.”

By far the largest numbers of immigrants continue to live in the six states that have traditionally attracted them: California, New York, Texas, Florida, New Jersey and Illinois.

Immigrants also continue to flow into a handful of states in the Southeast, like Georgia and North Carolina, a trend that was discerned in the 2000 census.

But it is in the less-expected immigrant destinations that demographers find the most of interest in the new data.

Indiana saw a 34 percent increase in the number of immigrants; South Dakota saw a 44 percent rise; Delaware 32 percent; Missouri 31 percent; Colorado 28 percent; and New Hampshire 26 percent.

“It’s the continuation of a pattern that we first began to see 10 or 15 years ago,” said Jeff Passel, senior research associate at the Pew Hispanic Center, who has examined the new census data. “But instead of being confined to areas like the Southeast, it’s beginning to spill over into some Midwestern states, like Indiana and Ohio. It’s even moving up into New England.”

Over all, immigrants now make up 12.4 percent of the nation’s population, up from 11.2 percent in 2000. That amounts to an estimated 4.9 million additional immigrants for a total of 35.7 million, a number larger than the population of California.

Unlike the full census, which measures all population, the American Community Survey covers only what census officials call “household” population — that is, people living in households, rather than in “group quarters” like universities, long-term care facilities and prisons.

Thus, the 16 percent increase in immigrants since 2000 refers only to the household population. (The nation’s household population in 2005 was 288,378,137, up from 273,637,296 in 2000.)

From 1990 to 2000, the total population showed a 57 percent increase in the foreign-born population, to 31.1 million, from 19.8 million.

Still, the rise in the immigrant household population since 2000 seems to indicate that the blazing pace of immigration seen throughout the 1990’s has continued into the first half of this decade.

And along with the increase in the overall number of immigrants, the survey found an increase in the numbers who are not United States citizens — an estimated 2.4 million more since 2000. The survey did not try to distinguish between noncitizens in the country legally, like students or guest workers, and those in the country illegally.

Georgia and North Carolina, states that had already seen significant increases in their immigrant population in the 1990’s, continue to see rising numbers. In Georgia, for instance, foreign-born residents accounted for 7.2 percent of the state’s population in 2000, and 9 percent in 2005.

“We’ve been getting very diverse down here,” said Judy Hadley, statistical research analyst for the Georgia Office of Planning and Budget. “You name any country and we’ve got it.”

Ms. Singer pointed out that much of the growth in immigrants was in “suburban areas and a lot of other places that really have no history of immigration.”

Immigration was just one area covered by the first release of data from the American Community Survey, which also covered such demographic information as race, age, education and marital status.

The survey detected a significant increase in the number of Americans over age 25 who hold a bachelor’s degree or higher — 27.2 percent of that population in 2005 compared with 24.4 percent in 2000.

This contributes to what has been a half-decade surge in Americans’ educational attainment. In 1940, only 4.6 percent of Americans held a bachelor’s degree.

The survey found that the percentage of Americans who are 65 or over is shrinking, from 12.6 percent of the population in 1990 to 12.4 percent in 2000 and 12.1 percent in 2005.

Partly, this is driven by the huge influx in immigrants, who tend to be of working age or younger. But demographers caution against seeing this as a long-term trend.

“It’s more like the lull before the storm,” said William H. Frey, a demographer at the Brookings Institution. “Before long, the baby boomers are going to start getting into that age group in large numbers and the percentage will shoot up.”

The survey is intended as an annual bolster to the bureau’s constitutionally mandated census of the country’s population every 10 years. It began as a test program in 1996 and has gradually expanded to where it can now provide detailed data for nearly 7,000 geographic areas, including all Congressional districts and counties or cities of 65,000 or more.

In coming months, more data from the survey will cover income, poverty and housing.

Besides getting larger, the survey found shifts in the composition of the nation’s immigrant population.

“Essentially, it’s a continuation of the Mexicanization of U.S. immigration,” said Steven Camarota, director of research at the Center for Immigration Studies. “You would expect Mexicans to be increasing their share in places like Georgia and North Carolina, which already saw some increases, but they’ve also increased their share of the population, and quite dramatically, in states like Michigan, Delaware and Montana.”

More of America’s immigrants, legal or not, come from Mexico than any other country, an estimated 11 million in 2005, compared with nearly 1.8 million Chinese and 1.4 million Indians.

Conversely, the percentage of immigrants who were born in European countries has dropped sharply — 29.4 percent in the last five years, demographers say, because immigrants who came to the United States in the mid-20th century are now dying.

A study of this data by Mr. Passel for the Pew Hispanic Center showed that while 58 percent of the immigrants who arrived in the United States since 2000 settled in 5 of the traditional gateway states, 24 percent settled in 9 second-tier states (including Georgia, Massachusetts and Washington) and 11 percent found homes in 11 third-tier states, many of which have seen little immigration before (stretching from Connecticut to Minnesota to Nevada).

And while many of those first- and second-tier states saw the largest numbers of new arrivals from Mexico, Mr. Passel found, it was some of the third-tier states that saw the largest percentage increases: Alabama, South Carolina, Missouri, Kentucky, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Two decades ago, demographers said, some 75 percent to 80 percent of new immigrants settled in one of the half-dozen gateway states and tended to stay there. Then, in the last 10 to 15 years, the pattern shifted and increasing numbers began to stay in the gateways briefly and then move. Now, they say, the pattern is that more immigrants are simply bypassing the gateways altogether.

“The biggest thing that drives immigration to specific destinations is that the immigrant already knows someone who is living there,” Mr. Camarota said.

The common pattern, demographers said, is that a handful of immigrants move to a new region from one of the gateway states and put down roots. Then, once settled, they become a pipeline for others in their family or their home village to move directly into the same area.

“It’s looking like what happens is that a person from a given community, say in Nicaragua, is getting established,” said Bob Coats, the governor’s census liaison in North Carolina. “And then they send word home that they have a good job and other people — neighbors, family members — come to join them and you have these enclaves of people from one country, one region, becoming established in the same area.”

EDITOR'S NOTE: The Census Bureau's report is available on line at
www.census.gov . . .

Firetxmi
08-16-2006, 09:52 AM
Interesting article. We need to be careful though and discern between immigrants and ILLEGAL immigrants.

MaDuce
08-16-2006, 12:02 PM
Interesting article. We need to be careful though and discern between immigrants and ILLEGAL immigrants.

There really isn't musch difference anymore soon illegals will prolly be able to collect wealfare then we are really screwed

Firetxmi
08-16-2006, 12:05 PM
There really isn't musch difference anymore soon illegals will prolly be able to collect wealfare then we are really screwed

Except that legal immigrants have followed the rules and have paid their dues in order to get into this country. No need to villify them.

Abolith
08-16-2006, 02:13 PM
There really isn't musch difference anymore soon illegals will prolly be able to collect wealfare then we are really screwed

and they will be able to get drivers licenses in california... one bill Gil is at it AGAIN (what is this 8 or 9 times now?).





Except that legal immigrants have followed the rules and have paid their dues in order to get into this country. No need to villify them.

only if they have integrated into the american way of life. when you move to a new country you need to assimilate into that culture, but we have SO many illegals here that they now have no need. Top it off with businesses catering to them and they have not only no need and no increntive to do so.

Firetxmi
08-16-2006, 02:22 PM
only if they have integrated into the american way of life. when you move to a new country you need to assimilate into that culture, but we have SO many illegals here that they now have no need.

I agree, assimilation is key. How many legal mexican immigrants do you know on a personal level? I can honestly say I know many, as I was born and raised in TX and speak Spanish as my first language. Most legal hispanic immigrants want nothing more than to speak English, and become part of America- despite what some politicians and fear mongerers may tell you.

I can also tell you from living in a foreign country for a little while where I did not speak the language very well, assimilation is easier said than done.

Abolith
08-16-2006, 04:21 PM
I agree, assimilation is key. How many legal mexican immigrants do you know on a personal level? I can honestly say I know many, as I was born and raised in TX and speak Spanish as my first language. Most legal hispanic immigrants want nothing more than to speak English, and become part of America- despite what some politicians and fear mongerers may tell you.

I can also tell you from living in a foreign country for a little while where I did not speak the language very well, assimilation is easier said than done.



Dude I live in southern California I'm fvcking surrounded by them. I work with directly with about 25 or so and know another 20-30... I'm the Minority around here now...

as for "Most legal hispanic immigrants want nothing more than to speak English, and become part of America- despite what some politicians and fear mongerers may tell you." that is complete bullshlt.. of the 50 or so mexicans I know on a personal level, about 45 or them either want the southwest to become part of mexico or they want us to start speaking spanish. maybe in Texas the feelings are a bit different but over here they (mostly) feel that this is their land and they have no need to assimilate, that WE are the ones who should accommodate them.. Of all the flags I see waving around here, at least 2/3 of them are Mexico flags...ya they REALLY want to become americans...

gaijinsamurai
08-16-2006, 05:13 PM
Well, my Japanese wife will soon be added to the statistics. We are fully aware of the fact that she needs to become fully fluent in English (she has good conversational skills now, having studied English for over 20 years, plus living in London for a year), but it is important that she keeps some connections to her Japanese culture. Assimilation, which includes respect for your host country's culture, laws, and language, is important, but it is also necessary that immigrants have some contact with people of their own country of origin. Having lived in Asia for over four years, I can tell you from my own experience that it is very important. My wife loves America, and prefers our culture to her own in many ways, but she will always be Japanese.
Just yesterday, we were at the US Embassy in Tokyo, and submitted the paperwork for her immigrant visa. I can assure you that the US Government is thorough at making sure that our marriage is valid, she will not be a burden to the taxpayers (I have to be able to show proof of a reasonable income level in order to act as her "sponsor"), and is not a criminal.
I can also assure you that when she does arrive, with our baby, she will be a hard-working, productive member of American society.

MaDuce
08-16-2006, 05:41 PM
Well, my Japanese wife will soon be added to the statistics. We are fully aware of the fact that she needs to become fully fluent in English (she has good conversational skills now, having studied English for over 20 years, plus living in London for a year), but it is important that she keeps some connections to her Japanese culture. Assimilation, which includes respect for your host country's culture, laws, and language, is important, but it is also necessary that immigrants have some contact with people of their own country of origin. Having lived in Asia for over four years, I can tell you from my own experience that it is very important. My wife loves America, and prefers our culture to her own in many ways, but she will always be Japanese.
Just yesterday, we were at the US Embassy in Tokyo, and submitted the paperwork for her immigrant visa. I can assure you that the US Government is thorough at making sure that our marriage is valid, she will not be a burden to the taxpayers (I have to be able to show proof of a reasonable income level in order to act as her "sponsor"), and is not a criminal.
I can also assure you that when she does arrive, with our baby, she will be a hard-working, productive member of American society.

Of course but we don't want to become like some places across the pond where immigrant groups make no effort to assimialate into their host country's culture often leading to conflicts with the locals and are protected by political correctness nazi's. Don't be wrong the US was built on immigrants and I welcome anyone who will prodoce more then they consume.

Ordie
08-16-2006, 06:00 PM
After one generation, immigrant families become naturally assimilated into the mainstream and someways change the mainstraem culture. This happend to the Irish, Germans, Italians, Jews, Russians etc...

The new data should be good news for Mid-Western states who have been struggling with a decline in population. Politically, immigrants (legal/illegal) are counted in the census that ultimately determines how many seats in Congress each state gets. The more seats in Congress, the more political clout, the more pork money into the state for roads, bridges, schools, and farmer subsidies.

If I were a Midwest GOP type, I'd better start learning Spanish, hire Latino Staffers, attend Catholic Mass, fix potholes in Latino neighborhoods, lobby the State Department to allow for Mexico to open a local Consulate, and make an annual visit to Mexico / Central America. This is because most immigrants will eventually become citizen, if not, thier children will be the future voters.

If the GOP fails in taking this opportunity, they will lose a generation of new voters.

fremen
08-17-2006, 09:17 PM
Dude I live in southern California I'm fvcking surrounded by them. I work with directly with about 25 or so and know another 20-30... I'm the Minority around here now...

as for "Most legal hispanic immigrants want nothing more than to speak English, and become part of America- despite what some politicians and fear mongerers may tell you." that is complete bullshlt.. of the 50 or so mexicans I know on a personal level, about 45 or them either want the southwest to become part of mexico or they want us to start speaking spanish. maybe in Texas the feelings are a bit different but over here they (mostly) feel that this is their land and they have no need to assimilate, that WE are the ones who should accommodate them.. Of all the flags I see waving around here, at least 2/3 of them are Mexico flags...ya they REALLY want to become americans...

You know, learning a second language won't kill you, it might even make you smarter and better person. You probably haven't figured it out yet, but Mexicans have been around in California way longer than anglos, and they've never stopped arriving. Many industries in California depend on them and have done so for a long time. The ancestors I have there arrived there at the turn of the XX century.
Regarding assimilation, I think that the acquisition of English is as important as learning to read and write, but, as long as you pay your taxes, obey the laws, and work for a living, I see no reason why someone would have to loose their cultural heritage and identity, especially one as rich as Mexican culture. Besides, what business is it of yours what I speak with my family, friends, what music I like, what shows I see, how I celebrate birthdays or Christmas, what food I eat, what church I go to, etc. I've never heard you complain about the Irish flags and green beer during Saint Patrick's Day celebrations, or about Jewish people maintaining their cultural identity or maintaining strong connections with Israel. Why the double standard with Mexicans? Besides, if all the Mexicans that work around you and outnumber you have only you as a model for assimilation, well... lets just say that "comprendo su resistencia".

fremen
08-17-2006, 09:21 PM
By the way, I heard the other day that about 8000 of the US troops that have been in Iraq, were born in Mexico. I think that constitutes a majority among foreign born US servicemen in Iraq. That's got to be worth something.