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[Uncle Sam]

http://blackwatersecurity.com/


April 1, 2004; 8:40 a.m. EST


"We grieve today for the loss of our colleagues and we pray for their families. The names of the victims will not be released out of respect for their families.

"The graphic images of the unprovoked attack and subsequent heinous mistreatment of our friends exhibits the extraordinary conditions under which we voluntarily work to bring freedom and democracy to the Iraqi people.

"Coalition forces and civilian contractors and administrators work side by side every day with the Iraqi people to provide essential goods and services like food, water, electricity and vital security to the Iraqi citizens and coalition members. Our tasks are dangerous and while we feel sadness for our fallen colleagues, we also feel pride and satisfaction that we are making a difference for the people of Iraq.

[farmgirl]

I have a great deal of respect not only for members of the military serving in Iraq (A'Stan and other places) but for civilians who are risking their lives to try to make things better for others. I believe it is a calling.

I know that some of our friends here are going to be leaving soon to do just that. Please stay safe, and thank you. :hug:


in addition.... while visiting the Blackwater site myself, I read the following:


A Memorial Fund has been established to support the victim's families of the March 31, 2004 Fallujah attack. All memorial gifts will be documented and appropriately acknowledged with due regard to the wishes of the donor and the nature of the contribution. Our thoughts and prayers are with the families of the victims

Please Mail the contributions to:
Memorial Fund
PO Box 159
Moyock, NC 27958

Please Make checks Payable to:
Memorial Fund

Please no cash contributions.


I'll be sending a contribution, and I thought some of the rest of you might be interested in having the address as well.

[Uncle Sam]

I have a great deal of respect not only for members of the military serving in Iraq (A'Stan and other places) but for civilians who are risking their lives to try to make things better for others. I believe it is a calling.

I know that some of our friends here are going to be leaving soon to do just that. Please stay safe, and thank you. :hug:


in addition.... while visiting the Blackwater site myself, I read the following:


A Memorial Fund has been established to support the victim's families of the March 31, 2004 Fallujah attack. All memorial gifts will be documented and appropriately acknowledged with due regard to the wishes of the donor and the nature of the contribution. Our thoughts and prayers are with the families of the victims

Please Mail the contributions to:
Memorial Fund
PO Box 159
Moyock, NC 27958

Please Make checks Payable to:
Memorial Fund

Please no cash contributions.


I'll be sending a contribution, and I thought some of the rest of you might be interested in having the address as well.

I too am sending a contribution. I am also making a contribution for the body armor.

[Uncle Chô]

voluntarily work to bring freedom and democracy to the Iraqi people
It is not the appropriate moment to start a flaming war but I think it is a bit too much :|

Those gentlemen were murdered, they had an horrible, disguting fate that made me sick. I can hardly imagine the terrible pain and horror for all their families and relatives.

That said, they were security (body)guards that went to Iraq on a voluntary basis not for "bringing freedom and democracy" but for adventure and the most important : $$$

Don't tell me BS with "they are heroes" blabla.

No, they were former military professionals doing their dangerous jobs for a private company and they volunteered for that.

I feel at ease with the subject because I have recently read some articles about thousands of ex-military from all over the world that are gathering to Iraq (including French people) because you could make a lot of money in a very short time.

It is a dangerous task, death is coming fast but they made their choice.

So please, we all (I hope...) feel deeply and sincerely sorry for what happened in Fallujah but let's stick to the reality.

[WolverineBlue]

The USMC is surrounding Fallujah as we speak -- pay-back is going to be a bitch.

[Maine Finn]

The USMC is surrounding Fallujah as we speak -- pay-back is going to be a bitch.

May the Devil Dogs proceed with the Lord's aid.

[HELEX]

May the Devil Dogs proceed with the Lord's aid.

The Terrorists win.... :roll:

[Maine Finn]

May the Devil Dogs proceed with the Lord's aid.

The Terrorists win.... :roll:

That's not what I meant, and I think you know it.

Don't post if you've nothing constructive to say.

Jeez.


~Emily

[Uncle Sam]

voluntarily work to bring freedom and democracy to the Iraqi people
It is not the appropriate moment to start a flaming war but I think it is a bit too much :|

Those gentlemen were murdered, they had an horrible, disguting fate that made me sick. I can hardly imagine the terrible pain and horror for all their families and relatives.

That said, they were security (body)guards that went to Iraq on a voluntary basis not for "bringing freedom and democracy" but for adventure and the most important : $$$

Don't tell me BS with "they are heroes" blabla.

No, they were former military professionals doing their dangerous jobs for a private company and they volunteered for that.

I feel at ease with the subject because I have recently read some articles about thousands of ex-military from all over the world that are gathering to Iraq (including French people) because you could make a lot of money in a very short time.

It is a dangerous task, death is coming fast but they made their choice.

So please, we all (I hope...) feel deeply and sincerely sorry for what happened in Fallujah but let's stick to the reality.

Nowhere does it say, these men were "heroes". Blackwater is mourning the death of their friends. They WERE making a difference, no matter how much they were getting paid! Would you do it? They went to guard food supplies, water supplies etc...For the Iraqi people...Yes, they went voluntarily. Yes, I'm sure it was the money. Yes, they knew the risk. Do you work for free? $130,000 a year is quite the incentive. It all stems from the way they were treated after death, fool!

[Argyll]

voluntarily work to bring freedom and democracy to the Iraqi people
It is not the appropriate moment to start a flaming war but I think it is a bit too much :|

Those gentlemen were murdered, they had an horrible, disguting fate that made me sick. I can hardly imagine the terrible pain and horror for all their families and relatives.

That said, they were security (body)guards that went to Iraq on a voluntary basis not for "bringing freedom and democracy" but for adventure and the most important : $$$

Don't tell me BS with "they are heroes" blabla.

No, they were former military professionals doing their dangerous jobs for a private company and they volunteered for that.

I feel at ease with the subject because I have recently read some articles about thousands of ex-military from all over the world that are gathering to Iraq (including French people) because you could make a lot of money in a very short time.

It is a dangerous task, death is coming fast but they made their choice.

So please, we all (I hope...) feel deeply and sincerely sorry for what happened in Fallujah but let's stick to the reality.

They are providing protection for those involved in the reconstruction work,they are also providing training to ICDG /Police units,they are doing a job that needs to be done,nobody else will take the risk.........would you?
Do not make them out to be lured entirely by the buck,they are stilll proffesionals,for some of them it's been their way of life for 20 years,it's hard to adapt to civvy street,some are there because that's where their comrades in arms are from their service days............unless you've served,something you will never ever understand........that's the reason why I'm going........my mates are there,and they want me to be with them,and at the same time I will be part of the reconstruction of Iraq,so when someone asks you what you did to help the people of Iraq I can tell them with pride of what I did...........can you do the same?

[Argyll]

May the Devil Dogs proceed with the Lord's aid.

The Terrorists win.... :roll:


HELEX why don't you STFU about this....................you never offered a better soloution in any of the other threads so quit trolling in this one

[TALOS]

May the Devil Dogs proceed with the Lord's aid.

The Terrorists win.... :roll:
You just really have no concept do you... please, try to think before you say such things.

[Uncle Sam]

Argyll:

From on BTDT to another, you, most definitely, have my respect.

[Argyll]

Argyll:

From on BTDT to another, you, most definitely, have my respect.

shame there wasn't more of it around these days...........I'm with ya all the way Buddy

[TALOS]

Argyll:

From on BTDT to another, you, most definitely, have my respect.

shame there wasn't more of it around these days...........I'm with ya all the way Buddy
Argyll, I am not BTDT, matter a fact I have no idea what it even means, but if you are going over there then you have my best wishes, good luck and god bless.

[Uncle Sam]

Argyll:

From on BTDT to another, you, most definitely, have my respect.

shame there wasn't more of it around these days...........I'm with ya all the way Buddy

I'm not gonna start callin' you "Sir" Argyll, though! :lol:

[Argyll]

Argyll:

From on BTDT to another, you, most definitely, have my respect.

shame there wasn't more of it around these days...........I'm with ya all the way Buddy

I'm not gonna start callin' you "Sir" Argyll, though! :lol:

Hell no mate,I work for a livin don't call me Sir

[Uncle Chô]

They are providing protection for those involved in the reconstruction work,they are also providing training to ICDG /Police units,they are doing a job that needs to be done,nobody else will take the risk.........would you?
Do not make them out to be lured entirely by the buck,they are stilll proffesionals,for some of them it's been their way of life for 20 years,it's hard to adapt to civvy street,some are there because that's where their comrades in arms are from their service days............unless you've served,something you will never ever understand........that's the reason why I'm going........my mates are there,and they want me to be with them,and at the same time I will be part of the reconstruction of Iraq,so when someone asks you what you did to help the people of Iraq I can tell them with pride of what I did...........can you do the same?
I know what there feelings are. I spoke several times with current French military people, they want to go to Iraq because this is where the action takes place. It is their job, they live for it I certainly understand that. Once you tasted the adrenaline rush, this is something you want again. I know there is a big difference in perception of what is a hero from both side of the Atlantic and every time I hear it (like an incidental death in a gun shot incident or a Humvee that crashed in a river because of a stupid trafic accident) and read "they were heroes" it makes me angry...

Would I go to Iraq ? Because of my job, I could (may) have. I already thought of it. But I am by no way a former military or law enforcement officer (and I don't pretend to be!) so it would be different. Do I admire their decision to go to Iraq? I think it might be their goal and I respect it bud I don't think they mostly would go because of an "ideal".

[MK133]

Here is part of a post in the Tactical Forums from an Operator who has done some work for Blackwater.


One of the 4 contractors killed in Fallujah, Iraq yesterday was a former SEAL. The others had Army SF background. The families of the dead men have requested their names withheld from the public at this time. Anyone with "the scoop" is asked to refrain from posting names in a public place. Local newspaper reports claim 3 former SEALs were killed and this is not correct.

Link to thread http://64.177.53.248/ubb/Forum12/HTML/000824.html

[Uncle Sam]

Argyll:

From on BTDT to another, you, most definitely, have my respect.

shame there wasn't more of it around these days...........I'm with ya all the way Buddy

I'm not gonna start callin' you "Sir" Argyll, though! :lol:

Hell no mate,I work for a livin don't call me Sir

Word!

[Tane Angle]

I don't think volunteering and such and heroism are mutually exclusive. They are heroes because they did the right thing. And they went when others wouldn't.

Gary Gordon and Randy Shughart are heroes. They voluteered, but heroes they remain. They did the right thing.

Just some thoughts...

[MK133]

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=a4rjl7V.kYq0&refer=us

``We will be back in Fallujah,'' Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt said today in Baghdad about the U.S. Marines who operate in the area, according to a transcript. ``It will be at the time and the place of our choosing. We will hunt down the criminals. We will kill them or we will capture them. And we will pacify Fallujah.''