Some pictures of Serbia&Montenegro Navy

[Metak]

http://naoruzanje.paracin.co.yu/kotor1.jpg
http://naoruzanje.paracin.co.yu/kotor3.jpg
http://naoruzanje.paracin.co.yu/rtop2.jpg
http://naoruzanje.paracin.co.yu/rtop4.jpg
http://www.vj.yu/img/ilustracije/Fotografije/wallpaper/wp3-800x600.jpg

[Metak]

http://www.vj.yu/img/ilustracije/dani_vidova/dan_RM/0182m.jpg
http://naoruzanje.paracin.co.yu/rbu6000-2.jpg
http://naoruzanje.paracin.co.yu/ak630-1.jpg

[Argyll]

I take it you don't take my threats about deleting ALL Future Balkans threads seriously?

[Uncle Chô]

http://www.mindspring.com/~possums/Submarine.jpg
Serbian Navy submarine* rofl


* http://www.marvelcreations.com/images/apfoban.jpg

[RSK]

Serbian Subs

SAVA class
http://ww2.isys.ca/drazen/sava.gif

HEROJ class
http://ww2.isys.ca/drazen/heroj.gif

UNA class midget (88 ton M100D design)
http://naoruzanje.paracin.co.yu/velebit2.jpg

MALA class special forces swimmer delivery vehicle
http://naoruzanje.paracin.co.yu/r2-1.jpg
http://naoruzanje.paracin.co.yu/r2-2.jpg
http://naoruzanje.paracin.co.yu/r2-3.jpg
http://naoruzanje.paracin.co.yu/r2-4.jpg


R1 "chariot" swimmer delivery vehicles
Cant find pics for this one.

[Marmot1]

I take it you don't take my threats about deleting ALL Future Balkans threads seriously?
EASY MAN... how about editing post instead of locking whole topic?

This one is particularly interesting since yugoslavia is very known producer of midget submarines and is one of leading countries in this... (I am serious).

[tacticalmanta]

I take it you don't take my threats about deleting ALL Future Balkans threads seriously?

The Balkans are a valuable source for military education. I know a lot more than probably all the non-Balkan members about this war and I am learing a lot from the postings. I think it's time people put their jaded politics aside and enjoy the gifts that these Balkan members post for us.

That said, I am curious to know if Serbia maintained their navy commando force? I know there was a unit under the Tito government, but the Croatians aborbed most of the sea power.

Yes.. sorry (it's been a very long day), I had the wrong dictator before;-) Both great unifiers though, eh!

[Hate mail]

Why would you be deleting valuable military pictures and stories to begin with??

:cantbeli:

[Dave the Dawg]

Serbian Subs
...
UNA class midget (88 ton M100D design)
http://naoruzanje.paracin.co.yu/velebit2.jpg
...
Just for clarity's sake, the pictured sub is not Serbian. It was a former Yugoslavian Navy Una-class submarine, but it was captured in 1991 and after refitting entered Croatian Navy service in 1997 as the Velebit. The Croatians apparently have another Una-class sub being refitted, but I don't know whether it has entered service.

Here is another picture of the Velebit, apparently taken on the same day:
http://www.hrvatski-vojnik.hr/hrvatski-vojnik/fotogallery/big_pictures/razgl-1.jpg


That said, I am curious to know if Serbia maintained their navy commando force? I know there was a unit under the Tito government, but the Croatians aborbed most of the sea power.
Yes, the Serbian and Montengrin Navy maintains its naval diversionary unit and also has a UDT capability. BTW, Croatia absorbed most of the coastline and ports, but most naval vessels remained in the VJ's hands.

Dave

[Sierra]

I take it you don't take my threats about deleting ALL Future Balkans threads seriously?i still dont see why these will be locked.
please explain
:|

[SerbPVO]

we have a NAVY? Wow...

Argyll, take a pill or something.

[Dave the Dawg]

I take it you don't take my threats about deleting ALL Future Balkans threads seriously?i still dont see why these will be locked.
please explain
:|
Because certain people seem intent on fighting the Balkan wars as keyboard commandos. While it might be preferable in the abstract to just delete offending threads, often it just puts the moderators in the position of having to chase after the whiny miscreants. So, sometimes it is more prudent to simply be proactive rather than reactive.

[He219]

BTW, Croatia absorbed most of the coastline and ports, but most naval vessels remained in the VJ's hands.

Dave
Unless I am mistaken, the Serb-Montinegrin Navy (Ratna Mornarica) still has the most historically significant Naval Base of Cattaro, Kotor, former base of the K&K Austro-Hungarian Kriegsmarine and German U-Boats. In addition to Kotor, several subsidiary facilities are located at Tivat, Meljine, Djenovici and Bar. I don't know if Kumbor and Ulcinj still exist. The River Flotilla is based in Novi Sad.

http://www.idk.cg.yu/tour/pocetna.jpg

Nice pics Here (http://www.gate1.net/starboardhome/2003Chronicles/2003%20Trip%20Reports/Report043.htm) ...

I sailed through there in '87

http://www.vj.yu/img/ilustracije/Struktura/Vidovi/RM/scan221.jpg

http://www.vj.yu/img/ilustracije/Struktura/Vidovi/RM/scan216.jpg

http://www.vj.yu/img/ilustracije/Struktura/Vidovi/RM/scan230.jpg

http://www.vj.yu/img/ilustracije/Struktura/Vidovi/RM/scan236.jpg

[mustamato]

http://www.vj.yu/img/ilustracije/Struktura/Vidovi/RM/scan236.jpg

Hm, what is that?

[Beowulf]

looks very "fire-crackerish"

[SerbPVO]

Its my opinion that in today's world, Serbia & Montenegro does not need a "navy".

At best, a good coast guard - lots of smaller, modern, ultra-fast ships that are capable of catching those cigaratte-smuggling high-speed boats that cross the Adriatic daily, for example.

[SerbPVO]

Maybe something like these Russian Mercuty fast speed boats?

Video:
http://www.rusarm.ru/video/MERC_1.WMV

[He219]

http://www.vj.yu/img/ilustracije/Struktura/Vidovi/RM/scan236.jpg

Hm, what is that?

Thats the new indigenous Serb Anti-NATO Shipping Missile (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11198)

p-)

[SerbPVO]

And maybe, in a decade or so, as the economy gets better, acquire something like these Gepard-class frigats? Three or four...enough:)

http://www.rusarm.ru/video/GEPARD.WMV

[Red]

I taught Hood and Argyll told the serbian dudes to take a chill pill before they started posting again?why dont you guys listen to simple instructions? :cantbeli:

[Dave the Dawg]

Its my opinion that in today's world, Serbia & Montenegro does not need a "navy".

At best, a good coast guard - lots of smaller, modern, ultra-fast ships that are capable of catching those cigaratte-smuggling high-speed boats that cross the Adriatic daily, for example. The VCSG's navy seems to have shifted its focus to riverine patrol, mine warfare and anti-smuggling (as you note). They seem to have scrapped any amphibious capability and have no need for larger surface combatants.

Kotor Bay remains the main base (and only deep water port). The bay's access channel is overlooked by the Prevlaka Peninsula, which remained in dispute until December 2002, when Yugoslavia (now Serbia and Montenegro) and Croatia agreed to Croatian sovereignty but guarantees of Yugoslavian access. The accord also provided for joint Croatian and Yugoslavian naval patrols.

BTW, does anyone know if the two Rade Konćar class missile patrol boats shown above are still in VSCG service? I assume the RT406 is, by the picture of it on the VSCG website from He219's post above. However, it (and the RT404, if still in service) likely have different names. The RT404 was commissioned the Hasan Zahirović Lasa and the RT406 the Ante Banina. I'm not sure but believe all ships of the class were named after Yugoslav partisan heroes of World War II, with each ship representing a different nationality of the former Yugoslavia. They were the Rade Konćar (?), the [V.] Cvetković (Serb), the Ramiz Sadiku (Albanian), the Hasan Zahirović Lasa (Bosnian Muslim), the Jordan Nikolov-Orce (Macedonian), and the Ante Banina (Croatian). Ironically, the ship named after a Serb is now in the Croatian Navy (renamed the Šibenik, I think).

[He219]

http://www.vj.yu/img/ilustracije/Struktura/Vidovi/RM/scan213.jpg

They could always rent the Admiral Gorshkov ...
p-)

[mustamato]

That highly advanced Serbian cruise missile looks a little like old Katyusha rockets:

http://www.jagdtiger.de/SovietTanks/Katyusha-01.jpg

http://www.novgorod.fio.ru/projects/Project1301/katyusha_01.jpg

[SerbPVO]

Buddy, thats clearly a museum piece.

[He219]

RATS!

There's no fooling you, mustamato.
;)




Edit: Take it easy, SerbPVO. No need to go straight for the Jugular ....
:|

[SerbPVO]

Anyways, if this thread survives until tomorrow, i will post some new pics of Ratna Mornarica Srbije & Crne Gore;)

Gotta go to sleep now ... long day tomorrow:(

[SerbPVO]

blah;)

[He219]

Thanks for changing that reference, SerbPVO.

LAKU NOCΠ! Don't let the bed bugs bite ...

;)
lol

[SerbPVO]

Thanks:)

in Serbia, we say "casu mleka i u krevet" - glass of milk and straight to bed;)

my brother once mixed it up, and said "casu kreveta i u mleko" :cantbeli: