The Guilty (vid)

[Uncle Sam]

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11407&sid=5ec2613d5d5f099a0db05e27e85bc17d

This video goes with the above topic...

*** WARNING - Graphic Material ***

Listen as to what these men were guarding...Watch the way they get treated! (Scroll Down)
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http://www.feedroom.com/iframeset.jsp?ord=152433

Scroll to "War in Iraq" in upper left coner...

Watch the first two videos titled: "Brutal Attack" and "Murder in Mosul"
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[wholagun]

im speechless.. :(

How can human beings do this to other human beings. No matter how much I would hate anyone I would never do this them... I could never bring myself to bear to do that to anyone I would hate....

[MVSpartan117]

Bastards.....

[Genesis]

The hate shown in these videos makes me immensely sad. The lack of dignity given to human life is something I will never fully understand.

[scm77]

**** them.

[Kriz]

Instead of helping those people why don't we just cut off the power and water supplies isolate the town. They wouldn't be so disrespecting then. I think it's really time the coalition forces showed them whose boss. Civilian casualties or not, just bomb the entire town to rubble "Dresden" style.

If they think a human life is worth nothing and they can keep on acting like this we should teach them a lesson, that acting that way comes at a VERY high price.

[wholagun]

Instead of helping those people why don't we just cut off the power and water supplies isolate the town. They wouldn't be so disrespecting then. I think it's really time the coalition forces showed them whose boss. Civilian casualties or not, just bomb the entire town to rubble "Dresden" style.

If they think a human life is worth nothing and they can keep on acting like this we should teach them a lesson, that acting that way comes at a VERY high price.

you do that you piss them off more,, get them jobs and open schools for the kids, then they'll stop..
people that have too much to lose won't cause violence its only those that have nothing that are the problem

[ExtraT]

you do that you piss them off more,, get them jobs and open schools for the kids, then they'll stop..
people that have too much to lose won't cause violence its only those that have nothing that are the problem

I'm afraid it's not that simple. The level of life on the so called "Occupied territories" was greatly increased by Israel. To begin with, "pals" have the one of highest levels of literacy among other Arabs. Have you ever seen pictures of these "refugee camps"? With at least one sattelite dish on every house?
And what did we get out for it? Unrelenting terrorism! And don't think that it started just in 2000 - there was always terrorism, even in the so called "peaceful" times. Just look up 1996, right after Rabin assasination.

I think that the only thing that can work, is recognizing radical Islam for what it is - a sort of religious nazism. And then dealing with it accordingly.

[wholagun]

you do that you piss them off more,, get them jobs and open schools for the kids, then they'll stop..
people that have too much to lose won't cause violence its only those that have nothing that are the problem

I'm afraid it's not that simple. The level of life on the so called "Occupied territories" was greatly increased by Israel. To begin with, "pals" have the one of highest levels of literacy among other Arabs. Have you ever seen pictures of these "refugee camps"? With at least one sattelite dish on every house?
And what did we get out for it? Unrelenting terrorism! And don't think that it started just in 2000 - there was always terrorism, even in the so called "peaceful" times. Just look up 1996, right after Rabin assasination.

I think that the only thing that can work, is recognizing radical Islam for what it is - a sort of religious nazism. And then dealing with it accordingly.
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what you failed to mention is that living standards in the Palestianian camps is horendus, and Palestine according to Human rights watch and UN and other aid agencies state that Palestine is one of the most impovrished areas ( I hesitate to say country or state) in the world. Thier unemployment is huge, most ppl don't have work, little drinking water etc.

[CannibalSquirel]

Jesus... :(

[Srachka to Perdachka]

where do u see war in iraq button?

[ExtraT]

what you failed to mention is that living standards in the Palestianian camps is horendus...


I'm sorry, they are not that horrendous. There are lots of people on this earth that live much, much worse. And them, themselves lived much worse before they were "occupied".

Also, I believe the term "refugee camp" is not applicable. First of all, most of them live in more or less permanent dwellings (hardly a camp), They even have UNIVERSITIES there. And they are definetly not refugees.



.. and Palestine according to Human rights watch and UN and other aid agencies state that Palestine is one of the most impovrished areas ... in the world.


What Palestine? Galil? Emek Izrael? Negev? Sinai? "Palestine" is a GEOGRAPHICAL TERM! covers a big territory (most of Jordan, for example), and has no meaning when applied to population.
Gaza, Judeah and Samarria - yes they are impoverished. But much less so than most of Arab countries.

BTW, don't you know that "human rights watch" and "UN" are curse-words? Run to the bathroom, and wash your mouth with soap, right now!!! rofl



Thier unemployment is huge, most ppl don't have work


This they have to blame exclusively on themselves. If they didn't tease themselves with "revanshist" ideas, and didn't support terrorism against Israel - they would have work. More so, they would even have LOCAL work. Do you want to know what happened to "pal" businessmen that cooperated with Israel in building of "pal" infrastructure? They wer executed as "collaborators" by their "revolutionary" government.



little drinking water etc.

They should dump less waste into rivers, maybe they would have something to drink then.

[tenda]

:bash: :bash: :bash:
............revenge......!!!!!!!!!! :-*$

[MaDuce]

Open a a riot control sniper school in the town where once graduating basic snipers school coalition countries can send the troops there to learn how to idendify and nutralize troublemakers. I hear Using .22LR on knee caps is a great method for crowd control.

[TALOS]

Open a a riot control sniper school in the town where once graduating basic snipers school coalition countries can send the troops there to learn how to idendify and nutralize troublemakers. I hear Using .22LR on knee caps is a great method for crowd control.
As pissed as I was at seeing the vids violence begets violence. The coalition will undoubtedly temper their response with the knowledge of the neverending circle theory.
Knee jerk reactions now will only cost more US and coalition lives later.

[Wilco]

I like how today on the news they said that the Marines will react "Quick and descisively" to this attack.

[budanski]

you do that you piss them off more,, get them jobs and open schools for the kids, then they'll stop..
people that have too much to lose won't cause violence its only those that have nothing that are the problem

These guys understand one thing and thats by force. The unfortunate part is that these guys are beyond reasoning. In WW2, there were ways to quell such resistances... Firebombing them till their wills were broken.

[Dennis G]

might be time to open up an Iraqi phoenix program

[basket of soft kittens]

f******* THEY MAY AS WELL JUST PEE on the bodies to mark their terroritory

[Fox2]

Someone mentioned making their lives better in the material might stop Fallujans from becoming insurgents. Unfortunately, in the Middle-Eastern mentality, that might not be such a clear cut decision.

Material possessions, wealth, and the like are not as important when weighing violence in the Middle East as humiliation and pride. The problem with Fallujah, and the Sunni Triangle, is they were once the upper class, and they were treated well under Saddam's regime. Now, since Saddam has fallen, they have become equals with the other citizenry of Iraq. This angers them, because to them it is a demotion, a humiliation. No amount of money or material things, even better living conditions, will take away their humiliation. And humiliation is one of the most powerful forces in the Middle-Eastern world.

Look at the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. A lot of the most fervent Palestinian supporters are wealthy, educated people, with high standards of living. These people are the ones financing the terror.