Hoisting the Mexican flag at a US post office

[ZeroZen]

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Big brother err Maywood PD is keeping tabs on law abiding citizen Patriots while on the other side of the street complete and total lawlessness is on display. I did see them go and take some pictures of the clown crew though.

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And the great red white and blue gets raised at the MAywood City HAll once again decalring this is America, although it looks like Tijuana...
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SICKENING

[Hyllus]

wow ... this is really sick .... I don't know how this is tolerated in US ...

[Name Taken]

lol, I'd like to see them try to take Texas back by a force of arms.

As it is they just breed and sneak across the boarder, probably more effective. :|

[jetsetter]

Complicated isssue. You see some Mexican Americans waving American flags while others wave Mexican flags. What are they protesting in the first place? Do you want the South Western part of the US to be given back to Mexico or what?

[Marvin!!]

A little explanation? What happened?

[snoman]

isnt it against the law to rase the american flag upside down? only if there is an emergency, so isnt making a falls SOS call illeagel?

[rosscoliosis]

Ayy, this stuff makes my blood boil. Their argument about being the original owners is so friggin ridiculous. Should I be allowed to go to the people that bought my old house and demand it back because I lived there first? Should those of us of european descent be allowed to go back to the land of our ancestors and demand to have it back?
RIDICULOUS.

[JQ24]

Too bad our government doesn't give a damn about illegal immigration otherwise situations like this probably never would have happened.

[snoman]

actually i belive bush tried stoping more illeagal imigrants from coming into the country, BUT arnold wouldnt give control of the national gard.

[fremen]

wow ... this is really sick .... I don't know how this is tolerated in US ...

It might be sickening to most of us, but white supremacists have as much right to demonstrate in this country as anybody else, and eventhough they are a throwback from an era that most of us thought was gone for good, we must demonstrate tolerance. In the end it is what separates good, honest normal people from ignorant scum like that.

[fremen]

Their argument about being the original owners is so friggin ridiculous. Should I be allowed to go to the people that bought my old house and demand it back because I lived there first?
RIDICULOUS.

If they stole it from you, by beating the crap out of you and then forcing you to sign the title over to them...you might just have a case.

[BadKarma26]

can't we all just get along?!....and eat churros

[fremen]

A little explanation? What happened?

No explanation is given because this post is just meant to incite those that have xenophobic tendencies into a foam at the mouth raging stupor.

P.S. The picture of the upside down US flag is not related to this event. It was just thrown in by zero zen to obtain the above described reaction.

[fremen]

can't we all just get along?!....and eat churros

You bring the churros, I'll bring the hot chocolate!

[Andrew116]

Hey you know what if they dont like it they dont have to stay, y don't work harder at makeing their country better, cause they sure seem to work hard here whether its picking fruit or b*tching about something like this. If they redirected all the energy they used there they could do something productive.....like go back p-)


America Not So STRONG!!1!!!!!1

[StukaJr]

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...protest2_2006/

Last two pictures - girl drowns in the pool? WTF?

So far, it seems that these pro-immigration movements really manage to show their cause in the bad light and hurting their own PR... All they need is to spark a riot at one of those demonstrations (which seems dangerously close) and that will be the end of it all...

Not to mention, alienating other immigrants from their cause by waving a foreign nation flag - I didn't immigrate to live in Mexico... Ef that!

[tuercas]

most of these protesters are mexican/americans and therefore have the rigth to waive watever flag they want, even if its on a very ignorant maner. dont get confused , these people do not represent us. real mexicans are too busy making a living than to take part in these media events.


Last two pictures - girl drowns in the pool? WTF?
just a litle stupid gangbanger wannabe, along with all the guys with the busscuts, something real mexicans dont use. who in their rigth mind would tatoo "mexico"on their chest in gothic font? defenitedly someone who does not represent me, mexicans, or real mexican americans.

[TacoDelRio]

most of these protesters are mexican/americans and therefore have the rigth to waive watever flag they want, even if its on a very ignorant maner. dont get confused , these people do not represent us. real mexicans are too busy making a living than to take part in these media events.


just a litle stupid gangbanger wannabe, along with all the guys with the busscuts, something real mexicans dont use. who in their rigth mind would tatoo "mexico"on their chest in gothic font? defenitedly someone who does not represent me, mexicans, or real mexican americans.

Your first statement was on the dot. Working with Mexican Immigrants (of questionable legal status), they laughed at the protestors.

The people in question are what are commonly known as "F*cking idiots". They often have an IQ of less than 5, and they enjoy baggy clothing.

[ZeroZen]

Maywood Stops the Invasion
MAYWOOD, CA, 26 August 2006--Maywood handily fought off an invasion today, as the minuteman-style group Save Our State tried to force its message of rejection and hate on the small suburb on the southeast edge of Los Angeles. Five hundred people lined the barricades along the city's main street to face off against fifty SOS members behind barricades a hundred feet away.

The 28,000 residents of Maywood – a small town of just over one mile square that proudly proclaims itself 96% Hispanic – are experienced at defending themselves from oppression. The "Maywood revolution" began last fall, when residents rose up against their police chief, who routinely had used roadblocks to confiscate the vehicles of undocumented immigrants and sell the cars for public revenue. Maywoodians threw out their city council and mayor in the November elections, an election in which nearly 100% of eligible voters cast ballots, and replaced them with representatives who promptly disbanded the police traffic division, demanded an audit of LAUSD, denounced the Sensenbrenner anti-immigrant resolution, endorsed drivers licenses for all residents, and proclaimed Maywood a sanctuary city, where the police would no longer check immigration or citizenship status. ...

[TacoDelRio]

I guess I should move to Maywood and demand free sh*t too. Seeing as I'm white and someone in my ancestry somewhere was treated unfairly enough for me to complain about random sh*t and say I should recieve cash for it.

Sounds fair to me. (Then again I grew up here)

[ZeroZen]

Remember, Not all are on ally on the otherside of the fence.

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Michelle Marquez(left), a student at Lamar Middle School in Irving, was critized for having a US flag during an immigration protest at Kiest Park in Dallas. "My heart is with the Mexican flag and Mexico but I'am standing on American ground and I'am Mexican-American," she said

[rosscoliosis]

If they stole it from you, by beating the crap out of you and then forcing you to sign the title over to them...you might just have a case.

Yes, maybe if they *stole* it from ME, it might be different. But the land wasn't ever THEIRS, but possibly their ANCESTORS. The argument still amounts to demanding something for nothing.

[Aztec Eagle]

What is a real Mexican?? Im a real Mexican i live,work,study and play in MEXICO...i visit the USA only as a turist like i visited Canada and Central America, it makes me think what i would do if i see a chinese immigrant(and its a growing community in my city) take my Mexican Flag that i show proudly in my front patio,and change it for a Red communist flag..i can tell you i would not give a F*** and burn the chinese flag.

I think that those protestor of Mexican origin would like some people to hear them about what they think they should start by RESPECTING the american flag and what it represent to the americans and those who fought to protect it,if those states use to belong to Mexico who cares really..they were stolen by pirates at the time,but now its a difrent issue,if they want to make a point and be taken seriously i would advise them to fallow Ghandi's example of peacefull resistance.

[LthrnckZero]

People like this make me laugh. I might get pissed if they had somewhat reasonable arguments, but I throw this into the same category as those incestuous freaks in the westboro baptist church. Somebody hurry up and tell the Canadians that the Mexicans are the only owners of this continent. Apparently they didnt get the memo.

I have no problem with immigration. It'd be pretty hypocritical of me or 99.9% of the people in this country to say no to immigration. But what part of the phrase "illegal immigration" do they not understand?

[fremen]

Maywood Stops the Invasion
MAYWOOD, CA, 26 August 2006--Maywood handily fought off an invasion today, as the minuteman-style group Save Our State tried to force its message of rejection and hate on the small suburb on the southeast edge of Los Angeles. Five hundred people lined the barricades along the city's main street to face off against fifty SOS members behind barricades a hundred feet away.

The 28,000 residents of Maywood – a small town of just over one mile square that proudly proclaims itself 96% Hispanic – are experienced at defending themselves from oppression. The "Maywood revolution" began last fall, when residents rose up against their police chief, who routinely had used roadblocks to confiscate the vehicles of undocumented immigrants and sell the cars for public revenue. Maywoodians threw out their city council and mayor in the November elections, an election in which nearly 100% of eligible voters cast ballots, and replaced them with representatives who promptly disbanded the police traffic division, demanded an audit of LAUSD, denounced the Sensenbrenner anti-immigrant resolution, endorsed drivers licenses for all residents, and proclaimed Maywood a sanctuary city, where the police would no longer check immigration or citizenship status. ...

Oh, now I see what you're trying to say! It was wrong of the people of Maywood not to allow the members of the white supremacist group SOS to march through their city even if they were in pitiful numbers. I see your point now, and I must say I agree, everyone in the US has the right to demonstrate on the street, even racist, white supremacist groups like the KKK, White Aryan Resistance,neo-nazis, Minutemen, and the SOS.
Eventhough, I must say that it is a relief that racist organizations don't have much popular support in this country, I mean you always see them (KKK, SOS, WAR) outnumbered 10 to 1 by counter-demonstrators. ;)

[fremen]

But what part of the phrase "illegal immigration" do they not understand?

Quick!! Run to the pattent office, that phrase has never been used before, you could make millions!!! OMFG!!! What originality!!!

[dallas_112678]

I remember when students around the DFW area in Texas went on their little marches, and there wasnt a single american flag in the crowd. When reporters went to ask students what they were protesting about, most of them didnt even know, they didnt know what the hell they were doing out their, they just stared at the cameras blank faced. Most of the students skipped school to go to those marches just because they thought they could get away with skipping school, and i say "MOST" because there were some students who were out there who actually believed in what they were doing. Some students were doing stupid stuff and started doing donuts in their cars by the rest of the protesters and a 15 year old girl had her hand cut off because the car doing donuts flipped and her hand was outside the window. Some people can do very stupid things, but thats human nature.

[fremen]

Yes, maybe if they *stole* it from ME, it might be different. But the land wasn't ever THEIRS, but possibly their ANCESTORS. The argument still amounts to demanding something for nothing.

Gee, let me see. If the land that you live on, is land that you inherited from your grandfather, and it turns out that your grandfather was a big time fu***g crook, and he stole it; then if I were you, I might kind of live in fear that the descendants of the original legitimate owner might come-a-knocking one of these days. They might just stand a chance in a court of law. ;)

P.S. I like your avatar. Is that your sister?

[Miles.]

Fremen,

Don't press it.

[fremen]

Bite me Miley.

[snoman]

Gee, let me see. If the land that you live on, is land that you inherited from your grandfather, and it turns out that your grandfather was a big time fu***g crook, and he stole it; then if I were you, I might kind of live in fear that the descendants of the original legitimate owner might come-a-knocking one of these days. They might just stand a chance in a court of law. ;)

P.S. I like your avatar. Is that your sister?



live in fear. huh why?

[demotivater]

If they stole it from you, by beating the crap out of you and then forcing you to sign the title over to them...you might just have a case.

That's crap. Bought and paid for fair and square. Can they say the same about Mexico? I'll bet the Mayans spoke Spanish eh?

[Miles.]

Bite me Miley.

I wouldn't take that kind of attitude. Consider this...Texas was the only province to break away from the tyrannical regime of Santa Anna. And it wasn't just white Americans who fought for Texas' independence. ;)

[fremen]

That's crap. Bought and paid for fair and square. Can they say the same about Mexico? I'll bet the Mayans spoke Spanish eh?

Oh God! Not another re-writer of history. Go back and read a history book (though one a little more advanced than Miley's 5th grade school textbook). It is not "paid for fair and square" if you first had to invade your neighbor without any justification save the desire for territorial expansion. It is not "fair and square" if the sale was done at the tip of a sword. Take for example that I am very insistant at buying your car from you. You say, "no way, that car is not for sale". I then proceed to beet your brains out, and after you yell uncle, I give you fifty bucks for it and make you sign the title over to me. Fair and square, huh?
P.S. Your history of Mexico is pretty bad too. the Mayans weren't and aren't the only Native Americans to inhabit Mexico. There are however many different indian peoples in Mexico, and in a way they did kick out the Spanish. Most Mexicans are mestizos (a mix of indian and european). People like Miles call Mexicans a "mongrel race" (****ounced with a southern accent for dramatic effect), therefore, genetically they are the descendants of the Mayans, Miztecs, Aztecs, Zapotecs, Yaquis, Tarahumara, i.e. the original owners

[Miles.]

Excuse me, Fremen, but I would like to point out that I have never called Mexicans a "mongrel race." I find it hilarious that you have to accuse me of racial slurs instead of responding to what has been posted.

As I posted earlier, white Americans were not the only ethnic group to fight for Texas' independence. Mexicans were an integral part in the resistance to the dictatorial Mexican regime.

[demotivater]

Someone has some issues.

[I'mOnlyHalfPolish]

Someone has some issues.

agreed 1234

[Shake n Bake]

Respect the host country


Don't fly your POS flag above Old Glory while living here

[kabex]

Haha, "La Reconquista"!

Oh well. It will only go as far as Americans let it go(from what I've seen, indefinitely).

I'll just stay for the show. I love seeing racist rednecks foaming with anger.

As the other compatriot said earlier, if the Chinese took down the Mexican flag in a government building and raised a commie flag in its place, I would burn that one down and beat the holy living **** out of them. :D


Don't fly your POS flag above Old Glory while living here The Mexican flags represents many things. Many are similar to what the American flag represents: freedom, democracy, capitalism.

The Mexican flag also represents freedom from slavery, from persecution, from racial or ethnic segregation. Values which were there in Mexico ~180 years ago while the US was full of slavery and racism so please be more respectful to our ideals, since you, after all adopted them much later than us. We were pioneers.

I think this is what some people want to state by idolizing the Mexican flag. Freedom from ethnic persecution, which in the US is still far away, no matter how much freedom you claim you "have". Where is your black president? We had an indigenous president in the 19th century, and this country has always had a white ruling class. I'll let you think about that one.

[fremen]

I wouldn't take that kind of attitude. Consider this...Texas was the only province to break away from the tyrannical regime of Santa Anna. And it wasn't just white Americans who fought for Texas' independence. ;)

I'm really not impressed by you in any way. You really have to read before you speak. Your knowledge of history is based solely on Walt Disney propaganda films and the stories that you heard from some old ignorant person. The whole "Texas Revolution" thing my amigo sopenco, was a well thought out scheme orquestrated from Washington D.C. How convenient, that after the so-called freedom loving revolutionaries (who in reality were also fighting for the right to keep their slaves) were beaten in every engagement in south Texas and put in full retreat, they were all of a sudden reinforced by "volunteers" with military training coming in from Louisiana fully armed and equiped. Oh, and my ancestors in Texas at the time, were not on the side of the anglos.

I recommend you go to your nearest local library and get a real book on Texas history, something like "Duel of Eagles" by Jeff Long. If it's to long or difficult for you, get an adult to read it to you. ;)

[eATS]

it was the Indians,Mayans,Incans land. there were no Mexicans before Europeans came to the Americas.

[Aztec Eagle]

Oh God! Not another re-writer of history. Go back and read a history book (though one a little more advanced than Miley's 5th grade school textbook). It is not "paid for fair and square" if you first had to invade your neighbor without any justification save the desire for territorial expansion. It is not "fair and square" if the sale was done at the tip of a sword. Take for example that I am very insistant at buying your car from you. You say, "no way, that car is not for sale". I then proceed to beet your brains out, and after you yell uncle, I give you fifty bucks for it and make you sign the title over to me. Fair and square, huh?
P.S. Your history of Mexico is pretty bad too. the Mayans weren't and aren't the only Native Americans to inhabit Mexico. There are however many different indian peoples in Mexico, and in a way they did kick out the Spanish. Most Mexicans are mestizos (a mix of indian and european). People like Miles call Mexicans a "mongrel race" (****ounced with a southern accent for dramatic effect), therefore, genetically they are the descendants of the Mayans, Miztecs, Aztecs, Zapotecs, Yaquis, Tarahumara, i.e. the original owners


I completly agree, is not his fault that his not well docummented in this issue is not a part of history that they see in deept in school,its just a couple of pages and lets move on..they dont realize that was an act of piracy. is just the way they view history,the one who wins the war is the one who writes it.

Im not in anyway ANTI American, just in case someone would say that, my sister is an american born and my cousing his in the Navy and my other cousing he just finish bootcamp in penddleton.

But sometimes it just have to question a few things..like wen you ask them from what country are they from? they say America, dont they realize thats the name of a continent, i guess wen u ask a German they say im from Europe my country, if you call a person who lives in africa,african and a person who lives in Europe ,european dont they realize,Mexicans and Canadians are also North americans.

And what about the 7 continents, instead of every one else in the world thinks theres 5...Well ill stop there, i still like my neighboor to the north with his virtues and defects.

[fremen]

Respect the host country


Don't fly your POS flag above Old Glory while living here

How do you know that it wasn't somebody from the anti-immigrant camp that put the flags in that way just to get people like you foaming at the mouth. Is there a picture of the person who actually did that cought in the act, was he Mexican? If I wanted to incite radicals to anger, I would do something exactly like that.
I agree, that picture is wrong, whoever did that was either very stupid or very sinister. Don't call it a POS flag, unless you wan't to start a real flame war, the Mexican flag didn't put itself up there. It represents a lot, and the Mexicans on this site have never been disrespectful towards your flag.

[Miles.]

I'm really not impressed by you in any way. You really have to read before you speak. Your knowledge of history is based solely on Walt Disney propaganda films and the stories that you heard from some old ignorant person. The whole "Texas Revolution" thing my amigo sopenco, was a well thought out scheme orquestrated from Washington D.C. How convenient, that after the so-called freedom loving revolutionaries (who in reality were also fighting for the right to keep their slaves) were beaten in every engagement in south Texas and put in full retreat, they were all of a sudden reinforced by "volunteers" with military training coming in from Louisiana fully armed and equiped. Oh, and my ancestors in Texas at the time, were not on the side of the anglos.

I recommend you go to your nearest local library and get a real book on Texas history, something like "Duel of Eagles" by Jeff Long. If it's to long or difficult for you, get an adult to read it to you. ;)

I resent your condescending attitude, and would stress that Texas History is something that I have researched objectively.

Your characterization that my knowledge comes from "Walt Disney propaganda films and stories from an ignorant old person" is wrong.

Joto, tell me again how I'm racist against Mexicans! It seems that you are the one who needs to grow up.

[Aztec Eagle]

Lets bury the Hatchet... And lets talk Sh**t about the French...LOL just kidding.

[Miles.]

Lets bury the Hatchet... And lets talk Sh**t about the French...LOL just kidding.

ahahaha Good one!!

[Shake n Bake]

I think this is what some people want to state by idolizing the Mexican flag. Freedom from ethnic persecution, which in the US is still far away, no matter how much freedom you claim you "have". Where is your black president? We had an indigenous president in the 19th century, and this country has always had a white ruling class. I'll let you think about that one.

If blacks in this country were the majority, We'd have a black president. Simple as that

[fremen]

it was the Indians,Mayans,Incans land. there were no Mexicans before Europeans came to the Americas.

What the hell! Is it raining retards? The Incas are from South America, Mexico is in North America. Indians is not the name of any tribe, except for the people of India. The Aztecs, which were the strongest empire in Mesoamerica at the time of the conquest (1519-1521), were known as the "Mexicas", hence the word "Mexicans".

Miles: I am saying this from the bottom of my heart, believe me. I'm sorry that I said such hurtful words to you. I hope that in your big Texas heart you can find it to forgive me. I, I didn't mean to hurt you, I only spoke in anger. It was fullish of me. We sometimes lash out to those that are closest to our hearts (violin music plays softly in the background). You know, deep down I really like you with your Texas accent, hat and your cowboy boots. Kind of makes me feel like... well you know, two cowboys out on the range all by themselves, nothing to do. You really got me with that joto thing, man. In reality I'm... I'm madly in love with you man. Oh, hell! Why don't you just send me your address and phone number and we can take it from there? ;)

[Kenshin]

wow.. I'd say major pwnage there by the mexicans.. Its like saying... "Your post office is ours, Hommie" <spanish accent>

question is what does Uncle sam gonna do about it?

[Shake n Bake]

to get people like you foaming at the mouth.....

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the Mexicans on this site have never been disrespectful towards your flag.

And which flag would that be?


... since you know so much about me

[fremen]

wow.. I'd say major pwnage there by the mexicans.. Its like saying... "Your post office is ours, Hommie" <spanish accent>

question is what does Uncle sam gonna do about it?

Nothing! Now go eat a kiwi, and if that's your sister in your avatar, send us her number.

[fremen]

And which flag would that be?


... since you know so much about me

Believe me, I know and care nothing about you. Why don't you enlighten us?

[Miles.]

wow.. I'd say major pwnage there by the mexicans.. Its like saying... "Your post office is ours, Hommie" <spanish accent>

question is what does Uncle sam gonna do about it?

I'd say Uncle Sam has enough tact to let these things work themselves out.


You really got me with that joto thing, man.

Obviamente.

Por favor, escucha a razon. No emocion.

[Kenshin]

Nothing! Now go eat a kiwi, and if that's your sister in your avatar, send us her number.

Youre right, Its not wise to piss-off your source of cheap labor.

[kabex]

If blacks in this country were the majority, We'd have a black president. Simple as that
There is rampant racism in the US and that is a fact.

The US was built on slavery and the real Americans embraced it. Fact.

The US has always been affected by ethnic segregation. Fact.

You can't say the same about Mexico, our ideals were(and are) much more advanced than those of the USA.

Not only that, but as religious as Mexico has always been we've always been completely secular, unlike the US. The ten commandments on federal buildings? Hahaha. Your PRESIDENT speaking of the "Almighty" on his speeches? Give me a freaking break, your ideals are a joke.

Mexico has always had much more advanced ideals, regardless of its political problems. The Mexican people don't change.

[Miles.]

There is rampant racism in the US and that is a fact.

The US was built on slavery and the real Americans embraced it. Fact.

The US has always been affected by ethnic segregation. Fact.

You can't say the same about Mexico, our ideals were(and are) much more advanced than those of the USA.

Not only that, but as religious as Mexico has always been we've always been completely secular, unlike the US. The ten commandments on federal buildings? Hahaha. Your PRESIDENT speaking of the "Almighty" on his speeches? Give me a freaking break, your ideals are a joke.

Mexico has always had much more advanced ideals, regardless of its political problems. The Mexican people don't change.

I'm sure the blacks in Mexico would disagree.

[fremen]

Youre right, Its not wise to piss-off your source of cheap labor.

Your sister is your source of cheap labor? Oh, I get it, you pimp her!!! You crazy Kiwis! I like you guys!
But really, send us her number.

[Ordie]

Why are people getting worked up over a piece of cloth flying on a pole?
A Canadian flag is flying next to the US flag on San Juan Island in front of an official building. Why aren't people not making a big deal about that???

[szr]

I'm sure the blacks in Mexico would disagree.
Or the 'indian' Mexicans.

LOL kabex, reading your post, all I see is the steam rising off ****.

[Shake n Bake]

question is what does Uncle sam gonna do about it?

any time uncle Sam starts to do anything about it he gets called a white bigoted racist

political correctness and white guilt will be the death of us all

[SpecOpsWannabe]

You bring the churros, I'll bring the hot chocolate!

****,Bring The Hot Cake And ill go to heaven. xD

On A More Serious Note,I Dont Know Were I Stand On THe Issue,On The Mexicans Side They Have a good point,EVERYONES a immagrant,but at the same time they are draining our resources and money,while overpopulating the country...

Its a tough debute and im not sure were it will end up.

[Miles.]

Its a tough debute and im not sure were it will end up.

I'm pretty sure this thread will end up in the ****can before it's all said and done.

[fremen]

I'm sure the blacks in Mexico would disagree.

You mean like the ex-mayor of Acapulco or the ex-governor of Quintana Roo? By the way, did you know that a lot of blacks in Mexico are descendant from runaway southern and Texas slaves? You see, under a portion of the Mexican Constitution writen in the 1820's, any runaway slave that reached Mexican territory would automatically be granted freedom and citizenship. I believe that this was one of the parts of the Mexican Constitution that the anglo-texans found to be "tyranical". Again, tell someone to take you to your local library, or don't you have them in Dallas?

[SpecOpsWannabe]

Your sister is your source of cheap labor? Oh, I get it, you pimp her!!! You crazy Kiwis! I like you guys!
But really, send us her number.

Lol! p-) p-) p-)

[SpecOpsWannabe]

I'm pretty sure this thread will end up in the ****can before it's all said and done.

Not The thread,The Overall Debute in Politics..

Edit: shiitcan sounds like it.

[Marvin!!]

But sometimes it just have to question a few things..like wen you ask them from what country are they from? they say America, dont they realize thats the name of a continent, i guess wen u ask a German they say im from Europe my country, if you call a person who lives in africa,african and a person who lives in Europe ,european dont they realize,Mexicans and Canadians are also North americans.

It's usuallly people from a different continent who regard nationalities as 'continentalities' (European instead of Italian, African instead of Nigerian, etc...).
I, for one, don't like generalisations, and therefore take slight offence when referred to as "European", just because I'm from a 'far away land' to 'you'. It's as if you couldn't be bothered to consider the fact that Europe is made up of so many different countries. As if you were negating our cultural diversities.
Having said that, I am also proud of being a European, as well as Italian and British.

[fremen]

I'm pretty sure this thread will end up in the ****can before it's all said and done.

Yes I'm pretty sure of that too. I'm also pretty sure that it will happen because some very sensitive sore loser cowboy kid from Dallas (Dallas Nalgas)that watches a lot of John Wayne and Chuck Norris, whose name I won't mention, will go crying to the mods saying that someone hurt his feelings. Like the time I said he should have been aborted. Well, good night everyone, unlike most of you I have work tomorrow. If this thread is still here tomorrow, I'll see you then. ¡Buenas noches!

[Miles.]

You mean like the ex-mayor of Acapulco or the ex-governor of Quintana Roo? By the way, did you know that a lot of blacks in Mexico are descendant from runaway southern and Texas slaves? You see, under a portion of the Mexican Constitution writen in the 1820's, any runaway slave that reached Mexican territory would automatically be granted freedom and citizenship. I believe that this was one of the parts of the Mexican Constitution that the anglo-texans found to be "tyranical". Again, tell someone to take you to your local library, or don't you have them in Dallas?

The exceptions prove the rule, don't they?

Santa Anna's abolishment of the constitution was one of the chief complaints of the Texans, as well as the massacre of 342 Texans at Goliad. And you complain about those who rewrite history? rofl rofl rofl

[SpecOpsWannabe]

It's usuallly people from a different continent who regard nationalities as 'continentalities' (European instead of Italian, African instead of Nigerian, etc...).
I, for one, don't like generalisations, and therefore take slight offence when referred to as "European", just because I'm from a 'far away land' to 'you'. It's as if you couldn't be bothered to consider the fact that Europe is made up of so many different countries. As if you were negating our cultural diversities.
Having said that, I am also proud of being a European, as well as Italian and British.

Yea Well Now A Days People Are Either To Freakin Lazy OR Havent a Freakin Clue About world Geography.(NOT Saying Everyone)
So Its Easyier To Call a Guy With Squinty Eyes "Chinese" Instead Of Actully Asking Or Finding out Were They Are From,And I Do Side With YOu On That Issue.

[SpecOpsWannabe]

Yes I'm pretty sure of that too. I'm also pretty sure that it will happen because some very sensitive sore loser cowboy kid from Dallas (Dallas Nalgas)that watches a lot of John Wayne and Chuck Norris, whose name I won't mention, will go crying to the mods saying that someone hurt his feelings. Like the time I said he should have been aborted. Well, good night everyone, unlike most of you I have work tomorrow. If this thread is still here tomorrow, I'll see you then. ¡Buenas noches!

:o I Like John Wayne You Bish! xD rofl

[echohund]

Scum bags!!!! Embarassing all other hispanics that love their country and that have served.

[SpecOpsWannabe]

Scum bags!!!! Embarassing all other hispanics that love their country and that have served.

..

Enlighten Me Please.

[kabex]

You mean like the ex-mayor of Acapulco or the ex-governor of Quintana Roo? By the way, did you know that a lot of blacks in Mexico are descendant from runaway southern and Texas slaves? You see, under a portion of the Mexican Constitution writen in the 1820's, any runaway slave that reached Mexican territory would automatically be granted freedom and citizenship. I believe that this was one of the parts of the Mexican Constitution that the anglo-texans found to be "tyranical". Again, tell someone to take you to your local library, or don't you have them in Dallas?
Indeed, whoever says there is this political racism in Mexico is a complete idiot. We had an indigenous president in the 19th century, who else? Nobody. "El benemerito de las Americas".

People forget that Mexico has, and has always had, a white ruling class. The majority of politicians, businessmen, etc are white and even if this is true the Amerindian are always present, and have always been since the creation of Mexico. Therefore it is not logical to argue that it's just because we have a Mestizo majority, which by the way is part European. The Amerindian is a minority.

I don't have the constitution of 1824, 1857, etc handy but let's look at the 1917 edition:

CONSTITUCION POLITICA DE LOS ESTADOS UNIDOS MEXICANOS QUE REFORMA LA DE 5 DE FEBRERO DE 1857

Título Primero

Capítulo I

De las Garantías Individuales

Artículo 1o. En los Estados Unidos Mexicanos todo individuo gozará de las garantías que otorga esta
Constitución, las cuales no podrán restringirse ni suspenderse, sino en los casos y con las condiciones
que ella misma establece.
Está prohibida la esclavitud en los Estados Unidos Mexicanos. Los esclavos del extranjero que entren
al territorio nacional alcanzarán, por este solo hecho, su libertad y la protección de las leyes.
Queda prohibida toda discriminación motivada por origen étnico o nacional, el género, la edad, las
capacidades diferentes, la condición social, las condiciones de salud, la religión, las opiniones, las
preferencias, el estado civil o cualquier otra que atente contra la dignidad humana y tenga por objeto
anular o menoscabar los derechos y libertades de las personas.

Wiki translation:
This article discusses how every individual in Mexico (official name, Estados Unidos Mexicanos) has the rights that the Constitution gives. These rights cannot be denied and they cannot be suspended. Slavery is illegal in Mexico; any slaves from abroad who enter national territory will because of this be given liberty and the protection of the laws. All types of discrimination whether it be for ethnic origin, national origin, gender, age, different capacities, the social condition, health condition, religion, opinions, preferences, or the civil state or any other which attacks human dignity and has as an objective to destroy the rights and liberties of the people.

Wiki page on the 1857 constitution:
The 1857 Constitution was a liberal constitution drafted in Mexico during the presidency of Ignacio Comonfort and vice-presidency of Benito Juárez. It instituted Liberal policies, including: freedom of speech; freedom of conscience; freedom of the press; freedom of assembly; and the right to bear arms. It guaranteed basic civil liberties for all Mexicans; reaffirmed the abolition of slavery; eliminated debtor prison and all forms of personal servitude; secularized education; and greatly curtailed the power of the Catholic Church. It eliminated all forms of cruel and unusual punishment, including the death penalty. It eliminated all internal tariffs within Mexico. It abrogated government recognition of titles of nobility, hereditary honors, and monopolies, and it abolished special court systems outside of government control such as the Church courts for Catholic priests and military courts for soldiers that had been established under Spanish rule and were championed by conservatives. It provided that any slave who set foot on Mexican territory would become free by that fact alone, and would acquire the right to protection by the nation's laws, thus making Mexico a haven for African Americans escaping slavery in the United States.

[SpecOpsWannabe]

Indeed, whoever says there is this political racism in Mexico is a complete idiot. We had an indigenous president in the 19th century, who else? Nobody. "El benemerito de las Americas".

People forget that Mexico has, and has always had, a white ruling class. The majority of politicians, businessmen, etc are white and even if this is true the Amerindian are always present, and have always been since the creation of Mexico. Therefore it is not logical to argue that it's just because we have a Mestizo majority, which by the way is part European. The Amerindian is a minority.

I don't have the constitution of 1824 handy but let's look at the 1917 edition:

CONSTITUCION POLITICA DE LOS ESTADOS UNIDOS MEXICANOS QUE REFORMA LA DE 5 DE FEBRERO DE 1857

Título Primero

Capítulo I

De las Garantías Individuales

Artículo 1o. En los Estados Unidos Mexicanos todo individuo gozará de las garantías que otorga esta
Constitución, las cuales no podrán restringirse ni suspenderse, sino en los casos y con las condiciones
que ella misma establece.
Está prohibida la esclavitud en los Estados Unidos Mexicanos. Los esclavos del extranjero que entren
al territorio nacional alcanzarán, por este solo hecho, su libertad y la protección de las leyes.
Queda prohibida toda discriminación motivada por origen étnico o nacional, el género, la edad, las
capacidades diferentes, la condición social, las condiciones de salud, la religión, las opiniones, las
preferencias, el estado civil o cualquier otra que atente contra la dignidad humana y tenga por objeto
anular o menoscabar los derechos y libertades de las personas.

Wiki translation:
This article discusses how every individual in Mexico (official name, Estados Unidos Mexicanos) has the rights that the Constitution gives. These rights cannot be denied and they cannot be suspended. Slavery is illegal in Mexico; any slaves from abroad who enter national territory will because of this be given liberty and the protection of the laws. All types of discrimination whether it be for ethnic origin, national origin, gender, age, different capacities, the social condition, health condition, religion, opinions, preferences, or the civil state or any other which attacks human dignity and has as an objective to destroy the rights and liberties of the people.

Nice,But i would like to see that 1824 copy xD

J/k

[22.5degrees]

This thread has been an interesting read. Let me interrupt to point out a few facts and a few simple observations.

Mexico and Mexicans do/did NOT occupy ALL of North America. As was mentioned earlier CANADA accounts for the vast majority of NORTH AMERICA. So thanks for displaying complete ignorance.

Seeing as how the Mexicans believe that they were the "original owners" of the southern US(what they call North America) then I guess it all really belongs to the British. Americans( rather colonists) fought the British for it "fair and square". Bottom line is this, the land is now considered to be American soil. You want it back, fight for it. That's how every other nation expanded their borders.

To fight over this land now when no one involved was present when this issue began is fruitless. To disgrace a nations flag on that nations soil to attract attention to your specific agenda is disgusting. Actions such as these do nothing to gain support. Actions such as these only polarize a populations attitudes towards the group in question and towards their issues.

Immigration is what makes a nation. The difference is in the words LEGAL IMMIGRATION. Something most of these folks appear to have no knowledge of. Seeing as how these folks feel it is their RIGHT as NON CITIZENS of the US to emmigrate and benefit from US social services and liberties. Than I guess I as a Canadian can do the same. Wait, if I were to try this I would be bounced out of the US on my ass so fast I wouldn't even have time to say "eh".

This issue of immigration is being driven into the sphere of racism. From an outside view, this issue has nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS who feel that the legal process of entering another country does not apply to them. The situation consists of different ethnic groups(the US being predominantly caucasian). It seems that any situation that involves different ethnic groups always ends up being an issue about racism. I'm tired of hearing the "race card" being pulled. If someone from a different ethnic background wants to be treated like an equal than stop trying to prove that you're different, that you aren't like me. Some call this preserving their heritage. I call it reverse discrimination/racism. Anyone can maintain their heritage, and so they should. Being proud of your heritage and preserving it does not involve nor does it require one to constantly advertise that they are different....

22.5

[SpecOpsWannabe]

This thread has been an interesting read. Let me interrupt to point out a few facts and a few simple observations.

Mexico and Mexicans do/did NOT occupy ALL of North America. As was mentioned earlier CANADA accounts for the vast majority of NORTH AMERICA. So thanks for displaying complete ignorance.

Seeing as how the Mexicans believe that they were the "original owners" of the southern US(what they call North America) then I guess it all really belongs to the British. Americans( rather colonists) fought the British for it "fair and square". Bottom line is this, the land is now considered to be American soil. You want it back, fight for it. That's how every other nation expanded their borders.

To fight over this land now when no one involved was present when this issue began is fruitless. To disgrace a nations flag on that nations soil to attract attention to your specific agenda is disgusting. Actions such as these do nothing to gain support. Actions such as these only polarize a populations attitudes towards the group in question and towards their issues.

Immigration is what makes a nation. The difference is in the words LEGAL IMMIGRATION. Something most of these folks appear to have no knowledge of. Seeing as how these folks feel it is their RIGHT as NON CITIZENS of the US to emmigrate and benefit from US social services and liberties. Than I guess I as a Canadian can do the same. Wait, if I were to try this I would be bounced out of the US on my ass so fast I wouldn't even have time to say "eh".

This issue of immigration is being driven into the sphere of racism. From an outside view, this issue has nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS who feel that the legal process of entering another country does not apply to them. The situation consists of different ethnic groups(the US being predominantly caucasian). It seems that any situation that involves different ethnic groups always ends up being an issue about racism. I'm tired of hearing the "race card" being pulled. If someone from a different ethnic background wants to be treated like an equal than stop trying to prove that you're different, that you aren't like me. Some call this preserving their heritage. I call it reverse discrimination/racism. Anyone can maintain their heritage, and so they should. Being proud of your heritage and preserving it does not involve nor does it require one to constantly advertise that they are different....

22.5

I Would Like To Point some Things Out My self;

first off,this:

"Seeing as how the Mexicans believe that they were the "original owners" of the southern US(what they call North America) then I guess it all really belongs to the British. Americans( rather colonists) fought the British for it "fair and square". Bottom line is this, the land is now considered to be American soil. You want it back, fight for it. That's how every other nation expanded their borders."

#1,The British Were Definitaly Not The First Ones To Try To Occupie N.A,
The Natives Were First Then The Spainards came,then france and finally britian decided to come over here,tryed to esablish coloneys and failed many times!,Main Idea,BRITIAN WAS NOT THE ORIGINAL OWNERS!


AND You Saying The immigration is over Racisim,Thats BullSh*t.

All though you present very good points,those to were my major dis-agreances.

[kabex]

This thread has been an interesting read. Let me interrupt to point out a few facts and a few simple observations.

Mexico and Mexicans do/did NOT occupy ALL of North America. As was mentioned earlier CANADA accounts for the vast majority of NORTH AMERICA. So thanks for displaying complete ignorance.

Seeing as how the Mexicans believe that they were the "original owners" of the southern US(what they call North America) then I guess it all really belongs to the British. Americans( rather colonists) fought the British for it "fair and square". Bottom line is this, the land is now considered to be American soil. You want it back, fight for it. That's how every other nation expanded their borders.

To fight over this land now when no one involved was present when this issue began is fruitless. To disgrace a nations flag on that nations soil to attract attention to your specific agenda is disgusting. Actions such as these do nothing to gain support. Actions such as these only polarize a populations attitudes towards the group in question and towards their issues.

Immigration is what makes a nation. The difference is in the words LEGAL IMMIGRATION. Something most of these folks appear to have no knowledge of. Seeing as how these folks feel it is their RIGHT as NON CITIZENS of the US to emmigrate and benefit from US social services and liberties. Than I guess I as a Canadian can do the same. Wait, if I were to try this I would be bounced out of the US on my ass so fast I wouldn't even have time to say "eh".

This issue of immigration is being driven into the sphere of racism. From an outside view, this issue has nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS who feel that the legal process of entering another country does not apply to them. The situation consists of different ethnic groups(the US being predominantly caucasian). It seems that any situation that involves different ethnic groups always ends up being an issue about racism. I'm tired of hearing the "race card" being pulled. If someone from a different ethnic background wants to be treated like an equal than stop trying to prove that you're different, that you aren't like me. Some call this preserving their heritage. I call it reverse discrimination/racism. Anyone can maintain their heritage, and so they should. Being proud of your heritage and preserving it does not involve nor does it require one to constantly advertise that they are different....

22.5
You wrote all that for nothing. We (Mexicans) are not condoning or supporting the actions of these protestors. We said ourselves that we would burn down their flag if they did that on our own country, I said that I would beat the holy living **** out of them to top it off.

We're not debating that. They don't represent Mexico, or Mexicans. They are criminals first and foremost, and can't be compared to law-abiding, tax-paying, responsible Mexican citizens living in Mexico.

Moreover, our states were stolen in an illegal war. It's said to be the most unjust war ever fought and it was opposed in the US for being completely unjust.

They have a point, after all they were Mexican states which were blatantly stolen. They didn't get them "fair and square", fair and square my ass. If we decide to invade Guatemala and annex them, is the U.N. gonna let us do it because it was "fair and square"?

Things have changed, but it was still a very unjust war.

[Miles.]

You can't say the same about Mexico, our ideals were(and are) much more advanced than those of the USA.

Not only that, but as religious as Mexico has always been we've always been completely secular, unlike the US. The ten commandments on federal buildings? Hahaha. Your PRESIDENT speaking of the "Almighty" on his speeches? Give me a freaking break, your ideals are a joke.

rofl rofl

Mexican secularism...Did that occur before or after white immigrants were forced to convert to Roman Catholicism?

Calling the ideals of the US a joke is very insulting, by the way.

[SpecOpsWannabe]

You wrote all that for nothing. We (Mexicans) are not condoning or supporting the actions of these protestors. We said ourselves that we would burn down their flag if they did that on our own country, I said that I would beat the holy living **** out of them to top it off.

We're not debating that. They don't represent Mexico, or Mexicans. They are criminals first and foremost, and can't be compared to law-abiding, tax-paying, responsible Mexican citizens living in Mexico.

I Agree 100% On That,Just Because Lets say for example a black gang shoots up a house or store,you cant say the WHOLE Balck Community Is The Same Way,many people make this mistake often,especially with Arabs,just becuase some terrorist are from arab decendency doesnt make ALL arabs terrorists!

Edit: And Mis Pen is Right,That joke about The US was insulting..

[jde0907]

If they stole it from you, by beating the crap out of you and then forcing you to sign the title over to them...you might just have a case.
maybe we should give france back to the nazi's ?

[MACT-1]

Minutemen are not racist.
Did you know that there are pathetic, ignorant, racist mexicans too! Oh and blacks and ...
Racism is a problem of the mind not the skin. Hilter's brain made him racist not his ****ing skin color. You're uneducated please be quiet.
:oops: I'm so embarressed for you.

[Miles.]

Moreover, our states were stolen in an illegal war. It's said to be the most unjust war ever fought and it was opposed in the US for being completely unjust.

They have a point, after all they were Mexican states which were blatantly stolen. They didn't get them "fair and square", fair and square my ass. If we decide to invade Guatemala and annex them, is the U.N. gonna let us do it because it was "fair and square"?

Things have changed, but it was still a very unjust war.

The Gadsen Purchase...that was fair and square. It just happened to benefit Santa Anna more than the Mexican government. But you can't hold that against the US. Sorry.

[SpecOpsWannabe]

maybe we should give france back to the nazi's ?

Thats a completely diffrent story!

First Off TEXAS fought Mexico Over the strip of land that was between The US and Mexico,And When we won,we Did focre Santa anna to sign it over,BUT we werent looking to Slaughter And murder and take over the world like hitler intended,so you are a demented retard for saying somthing like that.

[SpecOpsWannabe]

The Gadsen Purchase...that was fair and square. It just happened to benefit Santa Anna more than the Mexican government. But you can't hold that against the US. Sorry.

Damn Right..

[SpecOpsWannabe]

kabex you have no idea what the fu*k your talking about and to. i wouldnt be surprised if milespenhall was a freakin history proffesor,so STHU

[TheStorm]

Moreover, our states were stolen in an illegal war. It's said to be the most unjust war ever fought and it was opposed in the US for being completely unjust.

They have a point, after all they were Mexican states which were blatantly stolen. They didn't get them "fair and square", fair and square my ass. If we decide to invade Guatemala and annex them, is the U.N. gonna let us do it because it was "fair and square"?

Things have changed, but it was still a very unjust war.

Your point being?

They're ours now. It's internationally recognized.

The war happened over a century ago. Get over it. Find a new excuse, because this one won't wash.

[SpecOpsWannabe]

Your point being?

They're ours now. It's internationally recognized.

The war happened over a century ago. Get over it. Find a new excuse, because this one won't wash.

Amen!

Ugh I Cant Stand This DipSh*t Kabex :roll:

[Aztec Eagle]

Mexico and Mexicans do/did NOT occupy ALL of North America. As was mentioned earlier CANADA accounts for the vast majority of NORTH AMERICA. So thanks for displaying complete ignorance.

Congratulations...you are the first Canadian i dont like ...and trust me a deal with many canadians and they are great people,i think i did not explain my self well,i am in no means ignorant or offensive to anyone,i know for a fact that Mexico since it´s terretory its so long it occupies part of Central America.

I was trying to make a point that people from the US wen you ask them they ansewer im an American ,well i know what they mean, but they dont realize that im also american, and that the continent from argentina to Canada it was given the name of america thanks to Americo Vespucio, wich im shure you already now this.

[SpecOpsWannabe]

Minutemen are not racist.
Did you know that there are pathetic, ignorant, racist mexicans too! Oh and blacks and ...
Racism is a problem of the mind not the skin. Hilter's brain made him racist not his ****ing skin color. You're uneducated please be quiet.
:oops: I'm so embarressed for you.

I Know! Just Because White People Had Ancestors that once enslaved another race doesnt make us,the decendants the same! Black People get away with calling us cracker,white boy and hateful terms,but we can barley say "black" without having a law suit!!!

[SpecOpsWannabe]

Fu*k Im Worn.

I Gtg to Bed,If THe Topic Is still up Tommorow I Shall Come BAck to Rant.

xD

Tty Guys l8er

[MG 3]

Guys I am an outsider but all I can say is that if this keeps up, then the next time I visite ur country and pick up the phone its gonna be

"PRESS 1- for spanish"
"PRESS 2- for english"

[kabex]

Guys I am an outsider but all I can say is that if this keeps up, then the next time I visite ur country and pick up the phone its gonna be

"PRESS 1- for spanish"
"PRESS 2- for english"
That would be most excellent. ;)

[Aztec Eagle]

[ the original owners[/quote]


The Gadsen Purchase...that was fair and square. It just happened to benefit Santa Anna more than the Mexican government. But you can't hold that against the US. Sorry.
is


Your absoltly right. That was a real purchase,but the other states were just a pirates bounty,purchase with a knife to our back.

And again im NOT saying that the stupid F**** that waved the Mexican flag in United States terretory is right, and im NOT saying that we should be compansated or those states to be returnd to us. Im just sticking to the SUBJECT no flag that represent the belives of others should be discrase, in particular in its on country.


P.S. That canadian dude 22.5 degrees, he really wrote all that dumb sh**t for nothing HU? makes no sense.

[Aztec Eagle]

Fu*k Im Worn.

I Gtg to Bed,If THe Topic Is still up Tommorow I Shall Come BAck to Rant.

xD

Tty Guys l8er


Sleep well, we shall be expecting you.... In the morning you would wake up to the sound of my cannons you Texan.!! woot .lol im just kidding trying to feel a little Santa Anna in me.

[ZeroZen]

The only Hispanic doesn't complain about Immigration and Assimilation are the Puerto Ricans. Viva Puerto Ricanos, Viva Nueva York, Viva Estados Unidos.

I only complaint about in america is going to Tacobell, Fastfood so slow.
If you are in my house please dont bring your badside manners from your house.

[Atlantic Friend]

maybe we should give france back to the nazi's ?

Well, you could give us Germany back to France, after all, Charlemagne ruled both countries. Then you could give both France and Germany back to Italy, because, y'know, the Romans owned it - but wait, we all know the Romans just stole Western civilization to the Greeks, so let's make Athens a big check here. Waitum, waitum, aren't the Greek Dorian invaders who pushed Pelasgians people before them ! Let's stop this injustice and give Pelasgians descendants (they might be in Lebanon these days) that big fat check. And wait, about these Pelasgians....

People, I suggest we all give back our countries to :

- chimps (if you choose to believe in evolution)
- God (if you prefer intelligent design)

And since neither the chimps nor God seem to be in the mood for ruling terrestrial nations, I suggest we just leave Earth and find another planet to bicker about.

[Atlantic Friend]

Guys I am an outsider but all I can say is that if this keeps up, then the next time I visite ur country and pick up the phone its gonna be

"PRESS 1- for spanish"
"PRESS 2- for english"

Apparently it's already the case with ATMs, for example. Press 1 for English, Opresa el dos para espanol.

[ViktorNavorski]

Haha, "La Reconquista"!

Oh well. It will only go as far as Americans let it go(from what I've seen, indefinitely).

I'll just stay for the show. I love seeing racist rednecks foaming with anger.

As the other compatriot said earlier, if the Chinese took down the Mexican flag in a government building and raised a commie flag in its place, I would burn that one down and beat the holy living **** out of them. :D

The Mexican flags represents many things. Many are similar to what the American flag represents: freedom, democracy, capitalism.

The Mexican flag also represents freedom from slavery, from persecution, from racial or ethnic segregation. Values which were there in Mexico ~180 years ago while the US was full of slavery and racism so please be more respectful to our ideals, since you, after all adopted them much later than us. We were pioneers.

I think this is what some people want to state by idolizing the Mexican flag. Freedom from ethnic persecution, which in the US is still far away, no matter how much freedom you claim you "have". Where is your black president? We had an indigenous president in the 19th century, and this country has always had a white ruling class. I'll let you think about that one.You/"We" were no pioneer. Denmark was the first country to outlaw slavery, well, technically, the slave trade. Haiti was the first country in the Western Hemisphere to outlaw slavery. The first written Constitution in North America to abolish the institution of slavery (and among other things included provisions for universal manhood suffrage, etc.) was ratified on 8 July 1777 by Vermont, followed by Massachusetts in 1783. Before then, of course, there was Maryland, one of the first to recognize freedom of religion, though that has more to do with the neccessity of the Catholics minority protecting themselves from Protestants coming in from England.

Frankly, between the minimum wage thread till this point, all you shown is a trait of someone who lack any real experience and knowledge of the U.S. other than the short time you been here on some naive idealistic summer stints which you then generalise into a broad base of delusional knowledge. I am not white, am a legal immigrant, nothing against Mexicans, either those living here or in Mexico, but I called conceded high horse uneducated bull**** when I see it.

[TacoDelRio]

Ahem, geography lesson here:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/SKI-united-states-map.jpg
We are clearly NOT Mexico. Therefore, all "OMFG u guYz r n MeXiKo" arguements are debunked, with the final answer being "You're an idiot".

California is part of the United States of America.

NEXT ARGUEMENT: Is Rosie O' Donnel a strange mutant species of land-whale?

[kabex]

Ahem, geography lesson here:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/TacoDelRio/SKI-united-states-map.jpg
We are clearly NOT Mexico. Therefore, all "OMFG u guYz r n MeXiKo" arguements are debunked, with the final answer being "You're an idiot".

California is part of the United States of America.

NEXT ARGUEMENT: Is Rosie O' Donnel a strange mutant species of land-whale?
It is Mexico, else Spanish wouldn't be spoken so much there. :)

[XShipRider]

Credit: Terry Anderson Show


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Shhhhh.... don't tell the real Native Americans. You know, the ones
the Spanish killed, maimed and "displaced" before we did.

[kabex]

Shhhhh.... don't tell the real Native Americans. You know, the ones
the Spanish killed, maimed and "displaced" before we did.

Mexicans are not Spaniards, we seceded from them. Remember that thing called "Mexican United States"? It's not called "Kingdom of Spain".

Americans aren't Brits. Moreover, these people generally aren't white, they're Mestizo.

Mexicans didn't prosecute and commit genocide against native Mexicans, like the US did against their native Americans. We didn't promote slavery either.

Check your facts. Mexico is not Spain.

[panzerjager]

Mexicans are not Spaniards, we seceded from them. Remember that thing called "Mexican United States"? It's not called "Kingdom of Spain".

Americans aren't Brits. Moreover, these people generally aren't white, they're Mestizo.

Mexicans didn't prosecute and commit genocide against native Mexicans, like the US did against their native Americans. We didn't promote slavery either.

O rly? Is that why Mexican ex-Presidents are being investigated for genocide against Mexican indians? What do you call the forced conversion to Christianity, if not slavery?


Check your facts. Mexico is not Spain.

So I take it you do not speak Spanish?

[Miles.]

O rly? Is that why Mexican ex-Presidents are being investigated for genocide against Mexican indians? What do you call the forced conversion to Christianity, if not slavery?

Panzerjager,

These guys won't be reasoned with. They can't even respond with factual events or information, other than their constitution (which has been rewritten how many times, now?).

Look at what kabex posted for Christ's sakes. "Mexico's ideals are far superior...so much freedom and economic prosperity." They won't respond to the forced conversion of whites and non-whites to Roman Catholicism. "...Mexico is secular"

rofl rofl These guys need to write comedy for NBC.

[shocker1]

The only racist crap I have seen posted here is by our Mexican "friends". We do not hate Mexican culture, language, food ect. As a matter of fact we love it and want it the enrich the American culture. The problem is LAW BREAKING by Mexicans, Hondurans, Europeans and any other non-US person that has no respect for this country but come here anyway illegaly. As far as Mexican-American relations we need to stop this "you stole our land" crap because we are neighbors who are intertwined in many ways. The hate being spewed by some in this thread towards Americans is only feeding the racist bastards we have here in the US. We owe each other nothing but respect.:hug:

[rjbhutton]

This thread has been an interesting read. Let me interrupt to point out a few facts and a few simple observations.

Mexico and Mexicans do/did NOT occupy ALL of North America. As was mentioned earlier CANADA accounts for the vast majority of NORTH AMERICA. So thanks for displaying complete ignorance.

Seeing as how the Mexicans believe that they were the "original owners" of the southern US(what they call North America) then I guess it all really belongs to the British. Americans( rather colonists) fought the British for it "fair and square". Bottom line is this, the land is now considered to be American soil. You want it back, fight for it. That's how every other nation expanded their borders.

To fight over this land now when no one involved was present when this issue began is fruitless. To disgrace a nations flag on that nations soil to attract attention to your specific agenda is disgusting. Actions such as these do nothing to gain support. Actions such as these only polarize a populations attitudes towards the group in question and towards their issues.

Immigration is what makes a nation. The difference is in the words LEGAL IMMIGRATION. Something most of these folks appear to have no knowledge of. Seeing as how these folks feel it is their RIGHT as NON CITIZENS of the US to emmigrate and benefit from US social services and liberties. Than I guess I as a Canadian can do the same. Wait, if I were to try this I would be bounced out of the US on my ass so fast I wouldn't even have time to say "eh".

This issue of immigration is being driven into the sphere of racism. From an outside view, this issue has nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS who feel that the legal process of entering another country does not apply to them. The situation consists of different ethnic groups(the US being predominantly caucasian). It seems that any situation that involves different ethnic groups always ends up being an issue about racism. I'm tired of hearing the "race card" being pulled. If someone from a different ethnic background wants to be treated like an equal than stop trying to prove that you're different, that you aren't like me. Some call this preserving their heritage. I call it reverse discrimination/racism. Anyone can maintain their heritage, and so they should. Being proud of your heritage and preserving it does not involve nor does it require one to constantly advertise that they are different....

22.5

Oh boy, I wish the Brits would listen to your words, 22.5!! : )
Bottom line for me, if you wanna raise your country's flag on another country's flagpole without consent, you better be able to defend it... because it has no right to be there. Mexican flag on American flagpole, Pakistani flag on a British flagpole, US flag on Iraqi flagpole (or Saddam statue! : )

Peace. Out.

[XShipRider]

Mexicans are not Spaniards, we seceded from them. Remember that thing called "Mexican United States"? It's not called "Kingdom of Spain".

Americans aren't Brits. Moreover, these people generally aren't white, they're Mestizo.

Mexicans didn't prosecute and commit genocide against native Mexicans, like the US did against their native Americans. We didn't promote slavery either.

Check your facts. Mexico is not Spain.

Okay, using your reasoning - we seceded from England. Then
promptly set forth to conquer everything West of the Mississippi.
Between France and Mexico we obtained the lands all the way
to the Pacific.

Fact: The Native Americans were here long before you "seceded"
from Spain. So what fact is it that I have wrong?

The Spanish Conquistadors couldn't enslave those they killed.
We didn't enslave the American Indian in that they did not perform
servitude. We oppressed them, ran them off any and all land
of intrinsic value, killed them at will.. but we did not enslave them.

Conquistador = original illegal alien. American Revolutionary = next illegal
alien to make the scene.

[Aztec Eagle]

Panzerjager,

These guys won't be reasoned with. They can't even respond with factual events or information, other than their constitution (which has been rewritten how many times, now?).

Look at what kabex posted for Christ's sakes. "Mexico's ideals are far superior...so much freedom and economic prosperity." They won't respond to the forced conversion of whites and non-whites to Roman Catholicism. "...Mexico is secular"

rofl rofl These guys need to write comedy for NBC.

I guess some of the guys who belive that the Mexican Goverment and its society are strictly secular are not correct,i see sometimes in Mexican media and news show how reporters ask the head of the roman catholic church in Mexico for his opinion of political and public affairs,and its also the other way arround.

But for those who live in the US, i can tell you this its seems to me that the goverment of the United States over uses the word "god"and involves divinity in all goverment affairs in a great scale.

I think in both sides of the fence have valid inteligent arguments,but in both sides... wen the heat gets to there heads, both sides start saying stupid comments like the one i quoted on top.

P.S. By the way not all mexicans are catholic,im NOT a catholic.,and another thing wen a Mexican like me,post a comment its not to talk Sh**t about the US,i dont want to offend anyone its just constructive criticall comment,and its feedback information for yourself of people all over the world dont think the same way and have your same belives.

And YES the guys who change the flag were absolutly WRONG and stupid, to my knowledge the only real Mexican flags that officialy raised in the US are on embassy's and cosulates of Mexico and a few months ago there was onother one in the Mexican Army Camp station in Texas to help and feed the victimes of Katrina.

[TomEHs]

I live near the border and i noticed its not the whites who make more racist comments against illegal immigrants but its the "mexican-americans" who say a lot of racist things. dont know why they do that but thats just what i keep on hearing from them

[Miles.]

I guess some of the guys who belive that the Mexican Goverment and its society are strictly secular are not correct,i see sometimes in Mexican media and news show how reporters ask the head of the roman catholic church in Mexico for his opinion of political and public affairs,and its also the other way arround.

But for those who live in the US, i can tell you this its seems to me that the goverment of the United States over uses the word "god"and involves divinity in all goverment affairs in a great scale.

I think in both sides of the fence have valid inteligent arguments,but in both sides... wen the heat gets to there heads, both sides start saying stupid comments like the one i quoted on top.

P.S. By the way not all mexicans are catholic,im NOT a catholic.,and another thing wen a Mexican like me,post a comment its not to talk Sh**t about the US,i dont want to offend anyone its just constructive criticall comment,and its feedback information for yourself of people all over the world dont think the same way and have your same belives.

And YES the guys who change the flag were absolutly WRONG and stupid, to my knowledge the only real Mexican flags that officialy raised in the US are on embassy's and cosulates of Mexico and a few months ago there was onother one in the Mexican Army Camp station in Texas to help and feed the victimes of Katrina.

My post was not directed toward you, but toward Fremen and kabex. You seem to be reasonable and honest about the USA and Mexico. There were mistakes on both sides.

Fremen and kabex seem to think that the early Texans were white thugs who were pawns of US government. They ignore the sacrifices that early white AND non-white immigrants to Texas made (conversion to Catholicism, changing their names to Spanish equivalents, extremely high taxes, high corruption). When there was an open rebellion, the Texans were clear about their grievances. Texans were also subject to war crimes, such as the execution of 342 prisoners of war at Goliad.

Another topic that was discussed, that the US is not white, but mestizo.

Let's look: Mestizos are thought to make up the majority of the populations of Chile (65%), Colombia (58%), Ecuador (65%), El Salvador (90%), Honduras2 (90%), Mexico2 (70%), Nicaragua (69%), Panama2 (70%), Paraguay (95%) and Venezuela (67%).

In the US, white non-hispanics make up 67.1%. So the majority whites are NOT mestizo.


Check your facts.

Practice what you preach, amigo. ;)

[camaro]

I live near the border and i noticed its not the whites who make more racist comments against illegal immigrants but its the "mexican-americans" who say a lot of racist things. dont know why they do that but thats just what i keep on hearing from them
i thinjk u r 1 of them :cantbeli: not good

[Miles.]

i thinjk u r 1 of them :cantbeli: not good

I'm glad you're able to contribute in an intelligent manner. :roll:

[Aztec Eagle]

I was just thinking ... i live in Mexico, and yesterday my day off i woke up and went to a "D Volada" wich is a copy of starbucks and had some coffe,i took my mom to Home Depot to buy some american paint and make her payment to her Home Depot credit card, we stop @ Costco to buy some stuff,but she change her mind and ask me to take her to Smart and finall cause theres less people and we stop at Wendys to have lunch,across the street from wendy i wen to Blockbuster to trent a DVD of YES an american movie,and wen i got back in to my car wich is..you guess it American built in mexico i turn on my stereo to listen to a san diego based in tijuana Mexico radio station that plays rock.

Ohh lord shut me im turning in to a gringo....Damm im typing in my dell laptop.!!!

[2Sheds_Jackson]

Judging by the tone of recent debates here about immigration vis a vis Mexico, the next election will be a landslide victory for the party that proposes the strongest anti- illegal immigration legislation.

[Miles.]

I was just thinking ... i live in Mexico, and yesterday my day off i woke up and went to a "D Volada" wich is a copy of starbucks and had some coffe,i took my mom to Home Depot to buy some american paint and make her payment to her Home Depot credit card, we stop @ Costco to buy some stuff,but she change her mind and ask me to take her to Smart and finall cause theres less people and we stop at Wendys to have lunch,across the street from wendy i wen to Blockbuster to trent a DVD of YES an american movie,and wen i got back in to my car wich is..you guess it American built in mexico i turn on my stereo to listen to a san diego based in tijuana Mexico radio station that plays rock.

Ohh lord shut me im turning in to a gringo....Damm im typing in my dell laptop.!!!

That's how we steal countries. muuuhahahaha

[jde0907]

Minutemen are not racist.
Did you know that there are pathetic, ignorant, racist mexicans too! Oh and blacks and ...
Racism is a problem of the mind not the skin. Hilter's brain made him racist not his ****ing skin color. You're uneducated please be quiet.
:oops: I'm so embarressed for you.

If that was directed at me, then I think you misinterpreted what I posted. A previous poster stated that the mexicans "have a case" because we "stole it from them" by "beating the snot out of them and forcing them to sign over the title" (not exact quote). I was pointing out that this is an invalid argument because, by this definition, the Nazis would have a "case" to take back France of Belgium. I'm not sure where "rascism" came from...hopefully this was just a misunderstanding.

[Aztec Eagle]

That's how we steal countries. muuuhahahaha...Really??

Wen i cross the border in to the US i see more advertisment in spanish then in Mexico,we i go to any city in KALIFORNIA like your governor likes to say, i only see latinos, some times since im in the US i stop to ask for directions and i ask them in english and guess what they dont speak english!!!! WTF..is going on here. and this happend to me wen i was in Beverly Hills. a predominent Jewish community.rofl

[camaro]

That's how we steal countries. muuuhahahaha
i dont think so english is not the second language in mexico while spanish it is in usa rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

[Miles.]

Face it...you bastards need us! ;)

[camaro]

Face it...you bastards need us! ;)
is that the only thing you can say? you need us 2 ...just go back to WWII you president asked for help to the mexican rofl

[Aztec Eagle]

i dont think so english is not the second language in mexico while spanish it is in usa rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

Wait a second buddy!!...I guess you have not been to Mexico lately, YES wen i go to restaurant theres the menu in english,wen i go to an ATM to get cash theres ENGLISH press 2, wen i call my cell phone company Telcell,for english press 2...i work in a half american half mexican company that employes 5000 proficient english speakers,i can tell you that i speak good english,i dont think i can say the same thing about my typingand spelling but so what.. ,but even in spanish i make mistakes wen im typing...LOL

[Miles.]

is that the only thing you can say? you need us 2 ...just go back to WWII you president asked for help to the mexican rofl

Yup. We need you guys. Otherwise, our lawns will never be cut, and our fast-food will not be near as fast. ;) SARCASM

Our President asked a lot of countries for help. That's why it's called World War II.

[camaro]

we better helped the germans but the stupid mexican president prefered help los gringos,, know they say we are intruders.... thanks mexican president to support the usa :|

[Miles.]

we better helped the germans but the stupid mexican president prefered help los gringos,, know they say we are intruders.... thanks mexican president to support the usa :|

You must be joking. :| Help the Nazis?

[camaro]

You must be joking. :| Help the Nazis? YES cuz they wanted kick your ass like the japaneses did rofl

[camaro]

You must be joking. :| Help the Nazis? YES cuz they wanted kick your ass like the japanese did rofl

[Miles.]

YES cuz they wanted kick your ass like the japaneses did rofl

Well, we all know how that story ends.

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[Aztec Eagle]

we better helped the germans but the stupid mexican president prefered help los gringos,, know they say we are intruders.... thanks mexican president to support the usa :|


OOhh PLEASE...Camaro,you must be out of your mind... help the nazis,F**k the Nazis,a lot of good Mexicans fought those bastards in both in the US armed forces and also in the Mexican Armed forces. to chose in the belives of the Nazis VS the gringos ill take the gringos any day of the week.....

Immigrants.



As the relationships between the North American countries grow closer, more Americans than ever before are considering a move to Mexico, whether it be for retirement, to start a business, look for work or just to travel. One of the key factors that comes into play when most people consider moving to another country is how many of their fellow countrymen are already there. For all of our professed desire for independence, when push comes to shove, most of us really want to be in relatively close proximity to some people who are similar to us.

It is often said that more Americans live in Mexico than in any other country. Several documents published by the U.S. Department of State say that, "More than 500,000 Americans currently reside in Mexico".is been also said that its already over one million americans in Mexico.

[camaro]

OOhh PLEASE...Camaro,you must be out of your mind... help the nazis,F**k the Nazis,a lot of good Mexicans fought those bastards in both in the US armed forces and also in the Mexican Armed forces. to chose in the belives of the Nazis VS the gringos ill take the gringos any day of the week.....

Immigrants.



As the relationships between the North American countries grow closer, more Americans than ever before are considering a move to Mexico, whether it be for retirement, to start a business, look for work or just to travel. One of the key factors that comes into play when most people consider moving to another country is how many of their fellow countrymen are already there. For all of our professed desire for independence, when push comes to shove, most of us really want to be in relatively close proximity to some people who are similar to us.

It is often said that more Americans live in Mexico than in any other country. Several documents published by the U.S. Department of State say that, "More than 500,000 Americans currently reside in Mexico".is been also said that its already over one million americans in Mexico.
you say that cuz you are 1/2 gringo.... i,m not... you should change your nickname p-)

[Miles.]

you say that cuz you are 1/2 gringo.... i,m not... you should change your nickname p-)

If you really think Mexico should've fought on the side of the Axis, you may just be nominated for the next Dumbarse of the week" award.

Please, Ngati, please...

[camaro]

If you really think Mexico should've fought on the side of the Axis, you may just be nominated for the next Dumbarse of the week" award.

Please, Ngati, please...yeah you and me :hug:

[Miles.]

yeah you and me :hug:

Your avatar suits you well. Only a brainless infant could come up with statements like yours.

[MaydayJohnson]

If were going to do a civil war to get them out, or a war against mexico we would need to do it now.

My friend Dave said that eventually the mexicans would takeover the USA and we would be speaking spanish as the major language. 150 years from now the USA wont tbe the USA. It will be infested by people who dont know anything about the past, and people that have NO roots in the USA.

[Aztec Eagle]

you say that cuz you are 1/2 gringo.... i,m not... you should change your nickname p-)I

Im half gringo...i dont think so,and if i was is not an insult.

Im 100% Mexicano...by the way i live in Mexico,where are you at???


My great grandfather fought in the Mexican revolution,my father served in the Mexican Army and me well i serve my country by staying in a military base for 3 months,to recive my military instruction wen i turn 18, as requested by our country. and i pay taxes!!!

[camaro]

If were going to do a civil war to get them out, or a war against mexico we would need to do it now.

My friend Dave said that eventually the mexicans would takeover the USA and we would be speaking spanish as the major language. 150 years from now the USA wont tbe the USA. It will be infested by people who dont know anything about the past, and people that have NO roots in the USA.
and you think mexico is iraq,afghanistan,somalia? no no my friend just tell your friend david that we are more than those countries togheter woot

[Miles.]

If were going to do a civil war to get them out, or a war against mexico we would need to do it now.

My friend Dave said that eventually the mexicans would takeover the USA and we would be speaking spanish as the major language. 150 years from now the USA wont tbe the USA. It will be infested by people who dont know anything about the past, and people that have NO roots in the USA.

Your friend Dave is an alarmist 'tard. Please pass that along.

The USA and Mexico will continue to be cautious allies. The US will continue to allow illegal immigrants in the country as long as our economy is strong. Mexico will eventually rid itself of widespread corruption. And we'll all live happily ever after.

[camaro]

I

Im half gringo...i dont think so,and if i was is not an insult.

Im 100% Mexicano...by the way i live in Mexico,where are you at???


My great grandfather fought in the Mexican revolution,my father served in the Mexican Army and me well i serve my country by staying in a military base for 3 months,to recive my military instruction wen i turn 18, as requested by our country. and i pay taxes!!!
vivo en oaxaca querido amigo y no le beso el trasero a los palidos cosa ke tu ..............

[Ea$y-8]

wow ... this is really sick .... I don't know how this is tolerated in US ...

Because not tolerating it would not be politically correct.

[Aztec Eagle]

If were going to do a civil war to get them out, or a war against mexico we would need to do it now.

My friend Dave said that eventually the mexicans would takeover the USA and we would be speaking spanish as the major language. 150 years from now the USA wont tbe the USA. It will be infested by people who dont know anything about the past, and people that have NO roots in the USA.


Remember this word.....XENOPHOBIA.

I guess he also told you that the jews and the freemasons control the world.:roll:

[camaro]

Your friend Dave is an alarmist 'tard. Please pass that along.

The USA and Mexico will continue to be cautious allies. The US will continue to allow illegal immigrants in the country as long as our economy is strong. Mexico will eventually rid itself of widespread corruption. And we'll all live happily ever after.
you but illegal inmigrants are not only mexican ...chineses,guatemalans,nicaraguans,,etc even from europe so i hate when you call all those illegal inmigrants MEXICAN {GTFOH}

[Miles.]

you but illegal inmigrants are not only mexican ...chineses,guatemalans,nicaraguans,,etc even from europe so i hate when you call all those illegal inmigrants MEXICAN {GTFOH}

Did I say only Mexicans immigrate illegally to the United States? :bash:

Wiseass.

[camaro]

Did I say only Mexicans immigrate illegally to the United States? :bash:

Wiseass.votate a la 8==D rofl

[shocker1]

The only racist crap I have seen posted here is by our Mexican "friends". We do not hate Mexican culture, language, food ect. As a matter of fact we love it and want it the enrich the American culture. The problem is LAW BREAKING by Mexicans, Hondurans, Europeans and any other non-US person that has no respect for this country but come here anyway illegaly. As far as Mexican-American relations we need to stop this "you stole our land" crap because we are neighbors who are intertwined in many ways. The hate being spewed by some in this thread towards Americans is only feeding the racist bastards we have here in the US. We owe each other nothing but respect.:hug:


you but illegal inmigrants are not only mexican ...chineses,guatemalans,nicaraguans,,etc even from europe so i hate when you call all those illegal inmigrants MEXICAN {GTFOH}
You are such a troll, Miles said nothing of the sort. My post above descibes how most Americans feel. BTW the forum rules state, English only here.

[camaro]

You are such a troll, Miles said nothing of the sort. My post above descibes how most Americans feel. BTW the forum rules state, English only here.
english? what about if i do not want? i prefer spagnol dude!:backhand:

[Miles.]

Let's ignore the troll, and try to get on with the debate.

[shocker1]

english? what about if i do not want? i prefer spagnol dude!:backhand:
10. This site's language is English. Using alternate languages to get around the flaming or insulting rules is not allowed and can earn a ban.
:bash:

[shocker1]

Let's ignore the troll, and try to get on with the debate.
Agree but It's hard with that dam avatar of his.p-)

[Aztec Eagle]

Lets just stop this stupid sh**t, we are always going to be neighboors and we cant just pick up our contry and move and neither can the gringos,so lets stop it .

theres more good things that unites us that what separateds u.....Let´s give thanks to the gods, that we have each other as a neighboor,it could be worst,imagine if it was the FRECH...lol just kidding.

P.S. Camaro this is a english forum, lear to respect,did not one of your on state great leaders Benito Juarez said...'Among individuals, as in among nations, respect for
the rights of others is peace'

[Macs.]

And YankeeDoodledoo tells us that we have a problem ? :lol:

[Miles.]

And YankeeDoodledoo tells us that we have a problem ? :lol:

Don't you have some mosques to build?

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

If you really think Mexico should've fought on the side of the Axis, you may just be nominated for the next Dumbarse of the week" award.

Please, Ngati, please...


If he lasts till friday...

[remo williams]

I predict thread lock being applied to this thread shortly.

[XShipRider]

My friend Dave said that eventually the mexicans would takeover the USA and we would be speaking spanish as the major language. 150 years from now the USA wont tbe the USA. It will be infested by people who dont know anything about the past, and people that have NO roots in the USA.

Can I borrow your friend Dave's crystal ball? There are a couple of
lotteries I'd like to win.:)

[szr]

If were going to do a civil war to get them out, or a war against mexico we would need to do it now.

My friend Dave said that eventually the mexicans would takeover the USA and we would be speaking spanish as the major language. 150 years from now the USA wont tbe the USA. It will be infested by people who dont know anything about the past, and people that have NO roots in the USA.
Those people are commonly called immigrants. The history of this country is, among other things, a history of immigrants and immigration from all parts. If our history is anything to go by, we'll still be plugging along at a decent clip in 150 years, in spite of, OR because of our immigrants.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

This thread is a target rich environment for Dumbarses...

[Miles.]

This thread is a target rich environment for Dumbarses...

Sad, for those of us who enjoy debating this topic.

I would like to call attention to Aztec Eagle. He seems like a reasonably intelligent guy, willing to discuss this with an open mind and civil tongue. I can't say the same for myself, but Aztec Eagle has earned a thumbs up from me.

[Belrick]

If they stole it from you, by beating the crap out of you and then forcing you to sign the title over to them...you might just have a case.

And if he died would his great great Grandchildren have a case?

Of course not, so move on. The world has.

[California Joe]

Whenever I'm having an argument about current events or politics or world peace my favorite empirical expert I like to call is a guy named "Dave". But only when I feel the big guns are needed because really, it's Dave.

[Aztec Eagle]

Whenever I'm having an argument about current events or politics or world peace my favorite empirical expert I like to call is a guy named "Dave". But only when I feel the big guns are needed because really, it's Dave.

Really who the f**k is this "Dave" dude..lol


I just hope is not the guy from Wendy´s, or is it the guy from Bay watch and Knight rider?? The world might never know.


rofl rofl

[Miles.]

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7871/trailer20trash20cologne201jpglb4.jpg

This is Dave. Dave...MilitaryPhotos.net.

"Hi, Dave."

[Aztec Eagle]

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/7871/trailer20trash20cologne201jpglb4.jpg

This is Dave. Dave...MilitaryPhotos.net.

"Hi, Dave."

For a moment there i thought it was Steven Spilberg wen he was in rehab...:cantbeli:

[fremen]

I would like to call attention to Aztec Eagle. He seems like a reasonably intelligent guy, willing to discuss this with an open mind and civil tongue. I can't say the same for myself, but Aztec Eagle has earned a thumbs up from me.

When you say that you can't say the same for yourself, do you mean that you haven't earned a thumbs up from yourself, or do you mean that you're not a reasonable intelligent guy, willing to discuss this with an open mind and civil tongue? Because, I could have told you that and saved you some trouble and heartache a few pages back.

[fremen]

Your friend Dave is an alarmist 'tard. Please pass that along.

The USA and Mexico will continue to be cautious allies. The US will continue to allow illegal immigrants in the country as long as our economy is strong. Mexico will eventually rid itself of widespread corruption. And we'll all live happily ever after.

Wow! Miles actually said something sort of intelligent here while I was gone! I agree with this statement, partly. Maybe even one day the US will rid itself of the very common corruption that pervades in many elements of its own society like its corporations (Enron, Halliburton) and its politicians (who keep their money in their refrigerators). When you do that, then you can lecture Mexico about its own corruption.
This being said, we are neighbors, business partners, and allies, despite those that think the contrary.
P.S. Am I the only one that thinks that New Zealand has nothing to do with this discussion? Is that country so boring that they have to interfere in other people's affairs while nobody really cares about theirs?

[fremen]

O rly? Is that why Mexican ex-Presidents are being investigated for genocide against Mexican indians?

Get your facts straight dope. Mexican ex-president Luis Echeverría is being investigated for the student massacres of 1968 and 1971. It has nothing to do with indians, and the fact that he is being investigated is a credit to the political change that Mexico has undergone in the last sexenium.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

P.S. Am I the only one that thinks that New Zealand has nothing to do with this discussion? Is that country so boring that they have to interfere in other people's affairs while nobody really cares about theirs?

Are you biggest ****head on this thread?

I'd say so.

Which really is saying something considering your competition, But why don't we open it up for the general public?

Who else thinks fremen is the biggest ****head on this thread?

P.S. You should spend less time smoking your fire serpent.

[TacoDelRio]

So if the southwest USA is really Mexico, then all the illegal immigrants just wasted their time?

Bulletproof logic. Stun Yoda, this would.

[fremen]

Are you biggest ****head on this thread?

I'd say so.

Which really is saying something considering your competition, But why don't we open it up for the general public?

Who else thinks fremen is the biggest ****head on this thread?

P.S. You should spend less time smoking your fire serpent.

Oh, you're so hurtful! You have broken my heart. I'm going to run away crying and never come back just to make you feel bad.
I wouldn't give a rat's ass as to what trash like you think of me, really. As for my ****head, you can tell your mom that that's the last time she's ever going to sit on it. Damm indiscreet woman!

[ZeroZen]

I would only say to mexico is return the land to the Aztec,and the Mayan people. I just wondering what former Pres. Vicente Fox doing?...
Is he going to Spain for this?.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Just keep smoking your 'fire serpent', sport.

Interesting euphemism.

How many ribs did you get removed to be able to do that?

[fremen]

Ahhh, Zero... as someone already stated a few posts back, this is an "English only" forum. Your speak, doesn't really qualify as English.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Your speak, doesn't really qualify as English.

rofl

Way to make yourself look like a ****head.

Again.

[fremen]

Interesting euphemism.

How many ribs did you get removed to be able to do that?

Thank you! To answer your question, none. It was not necessary since your mom has more than ample space. I believe it's all those years of practice that she's had.

****head

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah... blah. Besides being a loser, a troll, and an avid Anglophobe, do you ever contribute anything positive to the Mexico threads you continuously attempt to flame?

****head.

[ZeroZen]

Ahhh, Zero... as someone already stated a few posts back, this is an "English only" forum. Your speak, doesn't really qualify as English.

Typical flamer.....
So its english only forum. So why are we talking about mexican people then if your about the english.. another racist.
:bash:

[ViktorNavorski]

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah... blah. Besides being a loser, a troll, and an avid Anglophobe, do you ever contribute anything positive to the Mexico threads you continuously attempt to flame?

****head.Hey, Ngati, look who is trying to be cute for you. You pretty much have candidates lining up for the award for the next few weeks.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=89814&page=3

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah... blah. Besides being a loser, a troll, and an avid Mexicophobe, do you ever contribute anything positive to the Mexico threads you continuously attemp to crash?

[xknight76]

wsup, everybody, i'm new to mp.net and i just have a question to the mods, why are posts like this allowed to be formed? In the short time I have been on this site all I've seen in most PD&R section threads are nothing but flamewars. i know i'm just a newbie but wouldn't mp.net be better w/o this section? I mean what do you expect when you post this up and all the Mexican members get upset because some idiot made rude remarks that insulted members of their race? and to the other side, accusing other members of racism while yourself making racist remarks is self-defeating and stupid. Both sides can argue all day if you want, but guess what? it isn't going to get your point anywhere. Take it out on each other on AIM or Messenger.All these arguments surprise me as to how some mp.netters even managed to go about their daily routine w/o having to ride the special bus.

My two cents. payce.

[shocker1]

wsup, everybody, i'm new to mp.net and i just have a question to the mods, why are posts like this allowed to be formed? In the short time I have been on this site all I've seen in most PD&R section threads are nothing but flamewars. i know i'm just a newbie but wouldn't mp.net be better w/o this section? I mean what do you expect when you post this up and all the Mexican members get upset because some idiot made rude remarks that insulted members of their race? and to the other side, accusing other members of racism while yourself making racist remarks is self-defeating and stupid. Both sides can argue all day if you want, but guess what? it isn't going to get your point anywhere. Take it out on each other on AIM or Messenger.All these arguments surprise me as to how some mp.netters even managed to go about their daily routine w/o having to ride the special bus.

My two cents. payce.
Main Entry: rant
****unciation: 'rant
Function: verb
Etymology: obsolete Dutch ranten, randen
intransitive verb
1 : to talk in a noisy, excited, or declamatory manner
2 : to scold vehemently
transitive verb : to utter in a bombastic declamatory fashion
- rant·er noun
- rant·ing·ly /'ran-ti[ng]-lE/ adverb
While I agree some have made derogatory statements. Accusing MP.net members of needing to ride the retard bus in your second post, will not help you make friends here. Maybe you should take your own advice and refrain from making short bus comments.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Hey, Ngati, look who is trying to be cute for you. You pretty much have candidates lining up for the award for the next few weeks.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=89814&page=3

Yes. A thread like this really takes the hard work out of my vocation.

BTW What do they do with Dumbarses in Krakozhia?

[Shifax]

all i know is is that i wouldnt have a problem with them if they were
1) nice
2) leagal

[Miles.]

Fremen,

I'm surprised. Not only have you refused to respond to the actual debate, but you've also insulted a country that holds all the power on Militaryphotos.net: New Zealand. muhahahaha

By the way, great job insulting ZeroZen on his English. Do you speak Japanese? Do you have any idea how difficult it is to alternate between Japanese and English?

Why does every one of your posts contain an insult, crude remark, or some other device designed to offend? It might be different if you were joking, or if people deserved that kind of treatment, but as far as I've seen, you've been nothing but rude and hateful to everyone, in addition to being a racist and a nationalistic pig...

I paid Aztec Eagle a compliment, and you have to jump in and attack me. Why not respond to my arguments a few pages earlier? I said "I can't say the same for myself" because I have a tendency to react and post without fully comprehending the discussion. At least I know myself, and I'm trying to be more patient and civil.

You, on the other hand, have no scruples about insulting someone's mother and calling them "trash". I suspect you constantly call people names because that is the way you were raised and/or your low self-esteem needs a boost. Degrading others seems to be the only way you can interact. My apologies.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

What can you expect from someone who sits around 'smoking' his fire serpent all day, and with his sister too.

Eeeww...

[Miles.]

Hey, Ngati, look who is trying to be cute for you. You pretty much have candidates lining up for the award for the next few weeks.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=89814&page=3

Wow. I just happened to read this shiny gem.


P.S. Do you mind telling us what country your ancestry is from Vic, or is it too embarrasing to tell us? We will understand if you don't wan't to talk about that.

Attacking people based on assumed ethnicity...nice.

Both Kabex and Fremen are making things up; about Mexico, about the US, about the immigration debate, the Mexican-American War, etc.


The BMV is one of the top five stock exchanges in the world..."

Debunked.


Americans aren't Brits. Moreover, these people generally aren't white, they're Mestizo.

Debunked. Though not all whites in America descended from the British, we're certainly not Mestizo.


Moreover, our states were stolen in an illegal war. It's said to be the most unjust war ever fought and it was opposed in the US for being completely unjust.

Define "legal war" in the context of the 19th Century. Also, the American Revolutionary War, the Civil War, WWI, and WWII were opposed in the US for being completely unjust/unnecessary, as well. What makes the Mexican-American War any different? Oh, right, the USA "stole" your land.

You remind me of this fat kid I met at Fort Knox. He didn't have his canteen with him, and when the Drill Seargent asked him where it was, he replied "Someone stole it."

Mexico had refused to recognize Texas' independence, for which the Texans fought and died. It was not stolen, but paid for, won fair and square on the battlefield. Texan volunteers were subject to massacres, beatings, and hangings by the Mexican Army, and yet the Texans still managed to emerge victorious. Your President was captured, cut a deal, then renigged the deal when the Texans let him go.

As far as the Mexican-American War is concerned, there were mistakes on both sides of the conflict. Mexico refused to recognize Texas' independence, and the annexation by the US. The United States jumped the gun in California with the Sonoma incident and the subsequent revolt. But history does show that the United States paid for the land which it won on the battlefield, which in terms of human history, is not all that harsh. The Mexican government was bankrupt, could not effectively govern its Northern territories anyway, so I'd say $15 million dollars and a few less headaches is a pretty good deal.

[I'mOnlyHalfPolish]

hold up guys i gotta go get a ruler...to measure my d*ck...perhaps ill inflate the size like the stock exchange statistics...

hell lets give them back "their" land (which correct me if i'm wrong we won in a dice game...?)...just make sure to cut down all the trees, strip the top soil, burn the crops and poison the wells...

[ViktorNavorski]

The Mexican government was bankrupt, could not effectively govern its Northern territories anyway, so I'd say $15 million dollars and a few less headaches is a pretty good deal.Just think, if Mexico had accepted John Slidell envoy, they would gotten a $4.5 million reprieve, $25-$30 million for those land instead of just $15 million and potentially avoiding a war.

[chauncy republicans]

Are you biggest ****head on this thread?

I'd say so.

Which really is saying something considering your competition, But why don't we open it up for the general public?

Who else thinks fremen is the biggest ****head on this thread?

P.S. You should spend less time smoking your fire serpent.
Yeah, he's up there, with you following closely behind. I can't tell who contributed less to this thread, you or him.

[Miles.]

Refresh my memory. You contributed what?

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Two tenths of **** all, as usual.

[Miles.]

Too bad camaro isn't eligible for the Dumbarse of the Week award.

[chauncy republicans]

Two tenths of **** all, as usual.
Yawn, when's the last time you contributed anything to a thread other than flaming and trolling? By the way thats a retorical question, I've looked at your previous posts. Carefull with your ego there sally, would'nt want to break such a fragile piece of work. Time for me to go chat with the adults now.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Aw, nancy republicans is all pissypants because he isn't getting the attention he craves.:petting:

[Durandal]

wow ... this is really sick .... I don't know how this is tolerated in US ...

Because we also tolerate ignorant rednecks that get drunk and shout ******, spic, and kyke.

Nothing new about this. Most demonstrations have their share of smart people and the, well, the dumb.

I can't count the number of times I've been to a local gun shoot and wondered why a couple of the people are allowed in or aren't dead.

[Dragunov]

No explanation is given because this post is just meant to incite those that have xenophobic tendencies into a foam at the mouth raging stupor.

P.S. The picture of the upside down US flag is not related to this event. It was just thrown in by zero zen to obtain the above described reaction.


I agree, the only purpose of this post is to create hate.


Administrator of the site?

[Miles.]

I agree, the only purpose of this post is to create hate.


Administrator of the site?

After all of the discussion in this thread, that's what you come up with? The only hate I see here is coming from intolerant idiots, on both sides of the border. Grow up.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=90237

And if you agree with the Dumbarse of the Week, what does that say about you?

[Dragunov]

Well i didnt need to read the entire topic. By just looking at the pictures you can tell they are for the purpose i pointed out on the other post.

Fremen? He is oviusly hitting the nail of many MEXICOphobes in this forum. They can't stand Mexicans defending themselves from constant insults and other bull****. The Russians anf French suffer the same kind of attacks from many americans and they are labeled as ''dumbarse of the week'' for defending themselves.

Go back to your trailer and continue chewing tobacco buddy!

[ed316]

Well i didnt need to read the entire topic. By just looking at the pictures you can tell they are for the purpose i pointed out on the other post.

Fremen? He is oviusly hitting the nail of many MEXICOphobes in this forum. They can't stand Mexicans defending themselves from constant insults and other bull****. The Russians anf French suffer the same kind of attacks from many americans and they are labeled as ''dumbarse of the week''.

Go back to your trailer and continue chewing tobacco buddy!

Fremen is an American born to American parents.


Go back to your trailer and continue chewing tobacco buddy

and you whine when someones supposedly call Mexicans names? You haven't been in this forum long enough to understand Dumbass of the week.

[Miles.]

Well i didnt need to read the entire topic. By just looking at the pictures you can tell they are for the purpose i pointed out on the other post.

*sigh*

Read the thread.


Fremen? He is oviusly hitting the nail of many MEXICOphobes in this forum. They can't stand Mexicans defending themselves from constant insults and other bull****. The Russians anf French suffer the same kind of attacks from many americans and they are labeled as ''dumbarse of the week'' for defending themselves.

Don't be a ****ing baby. Fremen accused people of racism, attacked other poster's ethnicity, called a respected BTDT "trash" and made ****** remarks about this BTDT's mother, as well as ****** remarks about a number of poster's sister.


Go back to your trailer and continue chewing tobacco buddy!

It seems you are another one who is insulting people.

Bottom line: you don't know what you are talking about.

[Zarathustra]

Aztlan is coming !