Should dueling be legalized?

[Webley]

Because a duel is fought between consenting adults, I think it should be legal.

[Jack Mehoff]

There are boxing rings

[Maine Finn]

To the best of my memory, duelling was a form of settling disputes amongst gentlemen. It makes sense to me, in terms of keeping personal affairs personal.

Maybe it could be revived as an alternative to lawsuits. p-)

I'd vote for it.

[Jack Mehoff]

Why shoot people when you can beat them in the ring?

[Ratamacue]

I sure as hell wouldn't miss anyone killed because they can't settle matters without a duel.

[Maine Finn]

Why shoot people when you can beat them in the ring?

Actually, the older duels were fought with swords. One of the kids in my world history class in high school did a report on duelling, but I only remember bits and pieces of it now.

I think, depending on the social-class level of the duelists, it was either pistols, swords, or bare fists, but I'm not sure.

Maybe this would make a good research thread?

[Trigger]

I think duelling with rubber chickens should be legalized.

[Beowulf]

I think duelling with rubber chickens should be legalized.
what have rubber chickens ever done to you? [rimshot]

[Tengu]

Sure, but i'm going to need lots of bullets. p-)

[Trigger]

rofl

[NcDeuce]

I say no...


In a typical duel, each party acted through a second. The seconds' duty, above all, was to try to reconcile the parties without violence. An offended party sent a challenge through his second. If the recipient apologized, the matter usually ended. If he elected to fight, the recipient chose the weapons and the time and place of the encounter. Up until combat began, apologies could be given and the duel stopped. After combat began, it could be stopped at any point after honor had been satisfied.



In America, duels were fought by men from all walks of life. But many of America's most important citizens defended their honor on the dueling grounds. Button Gwinnet, who had signed the Declaration of Independence, was shot down by General Lachlan McIntosh in a duel. Commodore Stephen Decatur of the United States Navy, an experienced duelist, died at the hands of another commodore, James Barron. And Abraham Lincoln narrowly averted a battle with swords by apologizing to an Illinois state official he had ridiculed in a local newspaper.

Benjamin Franklin and George Washington were among the most prominent Americans to condemn dueling. Franklin called duels a "murderous practice…they decide nothing." And Washington, who undoubtedly needed all the good soldiers he could get, congratulated one of his officers for refusing a challenge, noting that "there are few military decisions that are not offensive to one party or another."

Religious and civic officials worked hard to stop duels. But diatribes such as Reverend Mason Weems' illustrated pamphlet "God's Revenge Against Dueling" did little to change public sentiment. Anti-dueling ordinances also failed to stop the flow of blood. Duelists ignored or evaded such laws. In fact, the most popular dueling ground in America was at Bladensburg, Maryland, near the nation's capital. Dueling was banned in Washington, but not in Maryland, which was a short carriage ride away. Irate legislators could simply shuttle out to Bladensburg and fire at will.


By the time of the Civil War, dueling had begun an irreversible decline, even in the South. Not surprisingly, public opinion, not legislation, caused the change. What once had been a formal process designed to avoid violence and amend grievances had deteriorated into cold-blooded murder. People at last were shocked by it, and they showed their disdain. It may have been too late to save Alexander Hamilton. But if American was to become a truly civilized nation, the publicly sanctioned bloodshed would have to end.

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Sixgun I take offence to a **** like you pretending to be english

[Jehuty]

Silly practice, killed thousands of young mens here.
Well maybe it can be considered as a tool of Darwin evolution...:roll:

[Trigger]

What if we just use 'Super Soakers'?

[Haiw]

Gosh...he even has idea from 1750... how 'bout he goes back in time and stays there?! :roll:

[rob]

maybe we should start a "should weed be legalized thread." ;)

[Haiw]

Why? It already is... ;)

[Tengu]

Why? It already is... ;)And it's a matter of time before it is legalized here p-) .

[George W. Bush]

That would certainly be cool.

No one would **** with each other because the other person might always pimp slap them and challenge them to a duel.

I can recall a handful of times when I wanted to duel someone.

[Gringo]

If only u would. U have had to lose one at some point George.

[George W. Bush]

If only u would. U have had to lose one at some point George.

Please die.

Anyone who types 'U' instead of you either lost her hands in a horrible accident or is retarded like you.

[perdurabo]

Im all for but duels with sabers rapiers etc...
guns are barbarian wepon... :D

[Gringo]

If only u would. U have had to lose one at some point George.

Please die.

Anyone who types 'U' instead of you either lost her hands in a horrible accident or is retarded like you.

So the KKK loving, Commie Paranoid racist has some balls after all.

Oh, don't worry, I'll die at some point, and so will you.

Why do you assume anyone who isn't an American, a communist?

Many people here are sick of your comments.

[Piotrek]

Im all for but duels with sabers rapiers etc...
guns are barbarian wepon... :D

I share Onufry Zagłoba opinion - rapiers are barbarian weapond to..they are good as spits to roast the meat - real polish nobel use only sabre :)

Bez Boga ani do proga bez Karabeli ani z pościeli :D

[George W. Bush]

KKK loving? You're really funny.

[perdurabo]

Im all for but duels with sabers rapiers etc...
guns are barbarian wepon... :D

I share Onufry Zagłoba opinion - rapiers are barbarian weapond to..they are good as spits to roast the meat - real polish nobel use only sabre :)

Bez Boga ani do proga bez Karabeli ani z pościeli :D
i know but i cant imagine german or sweed or spaniard with sabre :) so they should use their weapons :)
Japs with karabela rofl rofl its as big joke as Pole with katana :)
i work with my saber all the time although its only training saber real one that i want to buy is out of my pocket for now :(
ps Piotrek też jestem Piotrek :)

[Piotrek]

I'm dreaming about black sabre which is more effective and dangerous than karabela but i have the same problem as You - money :(

ps. Piotr to zacne imie ale wolalbym miec na imie Samuel jak Samuel Łaszcz :)

[perdurabo]

I'm dreaming about black sabre which is more effective and dangerous than karabela but i have the same problem as You - money :(

ps. Piotr to zacne imie ale wolalbym miec na imie Samuel jak Samuel Łaszcz :)
take a book "dzieje szabli w polsce" by Włodzimierz Kwaśniewicz "black" sabers are the same as normal but they are without any gold silver etc only steel and black leather :) i want to buy Hussarka :)

[Piotrek]

take a book "dzieje szabli w polsce" by Włodzimierz Kwaśniewicz "black" sabers are the same as normal but they are without any gold silver etc only steel and black leather :) i want to buy Hussarka :)

Wait a second - I thought that black sabre = hussarska sabre because hussarska sabre had black jaszczur - so black sabre doesnt mean type of sabre but type of finish - right?? Well I was thinking abour hussarska sabre to :)

[Gringo]

KKK loving? You're really funny.

Well, I aim to please

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KKK loving? You're really funny.

Well, I aim to please

so aim too, please

[NcDeuce]

If only u would. U have had to lose one at some point George.

Please die.

Anyone who types 'U' instead of you either lost her hands in a horrible accident or is retarded like you.

So the KKK loving, Commie Paranoid racist has some balls after all.

Oh, don't worry, I'll die at some point, and so will you.

Why do you assume anyone who isn't an American, a communist?

Many people here are sick of your comments.

http://movies.go.com/images/photogallery/obrotherwhereartthou/obrotherwhereartthou_26.jpg

I'm a member of a certain secret society... rofl


So in anger
I challenged his right for the love of this maiden
Down went his hand for the gun that he wore
My challenge was answered in less than a heartbeat
The handsome young stranger lay dead on the floor

Out through the back door of Rosa's I ran
Out where the horses were tied
I caught a good one, it looked like it could run
Up on its back and away I did ride

Just as fast as
I could from the West Texas town of El Paso
Out to the badlands of New Mexico

Back in El Paso my life would be worthless
Everything's gone in life, nothing is left
It's been so long since I've seen the young maiden
My love is stronger than my fear of death

I saddle up and away I did go
Riding alone in the dark
Maybe tomorrow a bullet will find me
Tonight nothing's worse than this pain in my heart

And at last here
I am on the hill overlooking El Paso
I can see Rosa's cantina below
My love is strong and it pushes me onward
Down off the hill to Feleena I go

Off to my right I see five mounted cowboys
Off to my left are a dozen and more
Shouting and shooting I can't let them catch me
I have to make it to Rosa's back door

Something is dreadfully wrong for I feel
A deep burning pain in my side
Though I am trying to stay in the saddle
I'm getting weary, unable to ride

But my love for
Feleena is strong, and I rise where I've fallen
Though I am weary I can't stop to rest
I see the white puff of smoke from the rifle
I feel the bullet go deep in my chest

From out of nowhere Feleena has found me
Kissing my cheek as she kneels by my side
Cradled by two loving arms that I'll die for
One little kiss and Feleena, goodbye



;)

[Gringo]

Oh Brother.... Where Art Thou?

Brilliant film