View Full Version : Arafat is not immune if terror continues
SeanAshi
04-03-2004, 07:55 PM
There are no plans to kill Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat "tomorrow," but if his support for terror continues, he is not immune, a senior diplomatic official said. He was responding to criticism of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon's threat that – following the killing of Sheikh Ahmed Yassin – Arafat may be next.
Sharon, in interviews with the Hebrew press that will be published in full on Monday and are part of his campaign to garner support in the Likud for his disengagement plan, hinted that both Arafat and Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah should be concerned about their safety.
Asked by Ha'aretz whether Arafat and Nasrallah are targets for assassination, Sharon said: "I wouldn't suggest that either of them feel immune... Anyone who kills a Jew or harms an Israeli citizen or sends people to kill Jews is a marked man. Period."
To Ma'ariv, he said that Arafat does not have an "insurance policy... today, everyone knows Arafat is the obstacle [blocking] any progress. As long as he is around and making trouble, Abu Ala [PA Prime Minister Ahmed Qurei] cannot move one Palestinian policeman from one side of the street to the other."
scm77
04-03-2004, 09:37 PM
This is un-acceptable... He should have been killed long ago. :fork:
SeanAshi
04-03-2004, 10:15 PM
Israeli sniper had his head in his scope while Arafat was boarding a ship to North Africa but didn't take the shot, after Sharon decided not to. Russia and the EU wouldn't go for that, its ok for Russians to kill Chechen terrorist/leaders but its not ok when Israel does it. Hmmmm....
wholagun
04-03-2004, 10:42 PM
Israeli sniper had his head in his scope while Arafat was boarding a ship to North Africa but didn't take the shot, after Sharon decided not to. Russia and the EU wouldn't go for that, its ok for Russians to kill Chechen terrorist/leaders but its not ok when Israel does it. Hmmmm....
US you forgot the US. Its funny how to only point to Euoprean countries as being against it when the US administration makes it abundently clear that it killing Arafat is a bad idea. :roll:
SeanAshi
04-03-2004, 10:51 PM
US administration makes it abundently clear that it killing Arafat is a bad ideaWe are not serious when we say that ;) but don't tell the EU Russia and that Arabs that okay?
chauncy republicans
04-03-2004, 11:17 PM
Who commited the last act of terror, hamas, hizbullah, or was it a palestinian group. Last I read the Palistinians are growing quite tired of the violence, and the majority of the attacks have been organized by outside groups. So...if this is the case...the Israelis would be FOOLS to kill him. If the Israeli's really want peace, they will spare Arafat's life. Just imagine the violent reprisals that would be carried out. Wreckless action by the Israelis will come back to haunt them. *Note* PLEASE DO NOT CALL ME ANTI-JEW FOR THIS! It's just my opinion.
Webley
04-03-2004, 11:17 PM
This is un-acceptable... He should have been killed long ago. :fork:
Agreed, like thirty years ago.
chauncy republicans
04-03-2004, 11:20 PM
This is un-acceptable... He should have been killed long ago. :fork:
Agreed, like thirty years ago.
Right! It would have been a lot easier 30 years ago, He did'nt have the influence he has now.
SeanAshi
04-04-2004, 05:46 AM
Just imagine the violent reprisals that would be carried out. Palestinian goals are the same regardles if Arafat lives or dies at the hands of the Israelis, the threats are the same thing over and over again..everyday.
moughoun
04-04-2004, 06:03 AM
What we in the West so conveniantly forget is that we caused the problem in the first place, We stood by and allowed the Holocaust then to somehow make up for it we cleared the Palistinien's out of the way to reastablish Isreal I can see why both side's don't listen to us :(
stood and allowed the holocaust? I don't think most people knew about it until the end of the war
stood and allowed the holocaust? I don't think most people knew about it until the end of the war
With all the respect that i have to Uk and US (and belive me..i have respect for them) "ויש כבוד" :D
US and UK aircrafts flew over the death camps and did nothing.
George W. Bush
04-04-2004, 08:46 AM
If they kill Arafat during the day when the IDF pulls out of the Gaza strip and West bank then it might work. Tourism will increase, etc.
tourism won't increase, potential tourists will be scared off by hamas threats of revenge as usual.
gilgoul
04-04-2004, 10:14 AM
What we in the West so conveniantly forget is that we caused the problem in the first place, We stood by and allowed the Holocaust then to somehow make up for it we cleared the Palistinien's out of the way to reastablish Isreal I can see why both side's don't listen to us :(
So for you to know, Israel only gained formal UN recognition in 48, but the"yishuv", the pre independence setlement, was already strong, alive and the economic engine of this area. Jerusalem had a jewish majority since 1874 (according to the poll), towns like tel aviv and Petach tikva were founded since the early 1900 `s.
As for creating the palestinian issue, I would say that the palestinians created their own problem, by refusing the partition plan of november 47, that would have granted them more than half of the country, by resorting immediately to terrorism, by r efusing any kind of dialogue that could have brought some kind of understanding, by maintaining a permanent state of war that only brought radicalisation on both sides, and finally by showing the worstr leaders ever and the most incompetent and corrupted leadership of any "liberation movement"(maybe after zimbabwe)
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Gringo
04-04-2004, 10:59 AM
stood and allowed the holocaust? I don't think most people knew about it until the end of the war
With all the respect that i have to Uk and US (and belive me..i have respect for them) "ויש כבוד" :D
US and UK aircrafts flew over the death camps and did nothing.
It is true, that the people that ran the war were aware of the death camps. But what else was there to do? The only way for them to save the people in the death camps before they were all killed, was to liberate them, win the war ASAP.
Don't take it the wrong way, I am sympathetic to those that suffered.
Just a question to any ex soldiers who served in Northern Ireland during the troubles, could the situation in Israel be compared to that of the troubles? Like the background of why it started.
The only way for them to save the people in the death camps before they were all killed, was to liberate them, win the war ASAP.
That and bombing the railroad tracks which were leading to the death camps.
Any idea how hard it is to bomb rails? And how easy it is to repair it quickly? It would take a lot of recourses (that could be used elsewhere) with little effect.
chauncy republicans
04-04-2004, 12:54 PM
As for creating the palestinian issue, I would say that the palestinians created their own problem, by refusing the partition plan of november 47, that would have granted them more than half of the country, by resorting immediately to terrorism, by r efusing any kind of dialogue that could have brought some kind of understanding,
So this is true I had heard this before but never took the time to find out if it is fact or not. I will have to modify my argument a little.
Thanx.
Any idea how hard it is to bomb rails? And how easy it is to repair it quickly? It would take a lot of recourses (that could be used elsewhere) with little effect.
Whta about bomb the camp itself?
You'd have killed a lot of jews, and it would have been rebuilt in no-time. Besides, what could they really bomb? Some barracks, and some simple buildings. Nothing really special that couldn't be fixed by the Germans in a couple of days. In the meanwile they could go from gassing the jews to shooting them for a few days. :roll:
Mr. Nielsen
04-04-2004, 05:52 PM
As for creating the palestinian issue, I would say that the palestinians created their own problem, by refusing the partition plan of november 47, that would have granted them more than half of the country, by resorting immediately to terrorism, by r efusing any kind of dialogue that could have brought some kind of understanding,
So this is true I had heard this before but never took the time to find out if it is fact or not. I will have to modify my argument a little.
Thanx.
No, it wasn't so. The partition plan gave the jews 53% of the land area, though the only constituted a third of the population. And of those many were recent arrivals.
IDFM203
04-04-2004, 06:16 PM
As for creating the palestinian issue, I would say that the palestinians created their own problem, by refusing the partition plan of november 47, that would have granted them more than half of the country, by resorting immediately to terrorism, by r efusing any kind of dialogue that could have brought some kind of understanding,
So this is true I had heard this before but never took the time to find out if it is fact or not. I will have to modify my argument a little.
Thanx.
No, it wasn't so. The partition plan gave the jews 53% of the land area, and most of the land that the Jews were allotted by the UN were mostly uninhabited desert (a large part of its percentage was that) whereas the Arabs got most of the "good" livable land and yet they still rejected this and then invaded in a effort to annihilate ALL of the Jews to get ALL of the land for themselves.
So "chauncy republicans" continue on with your modifications as planned ;)
Shalom :D
You'd have killed a lot of jews, and it would have been rebuilt in no-time. Besides, what could they really bomb? Some barracks, and some simple buildings. Nothing really special that couldn't be fixed by the Germans in a couple of days. In the meanwile they could go from gassing the jews to shooting them for a few days. :roll:
Don't know what you think....but better then do nothing.
And what about bomb the gas chambers? that take more then few days to Fix....
Say what you want to say....but the world didn't care **** about the Jews..in those times....
(exsctly like today - except for USA..and what a ironic...Germmany).
Winning the war was the priority, no offence, but that's what any government would have done in that situation.
Winning the war was the priority, no offence, but that's what any government would have done in that situation.
Agree.
Like i said....saving the jews didn't care **** the leadrs of the world.
yes they did but they couldn't really save them till the end of the war.
The situation would have been the same if it was jewish governments and christians in concentration camps.
SeanAshi
04-04-2004, 06:43 PM
The United States should have jumped into WWII in 39 but we waited and came back to bite us in the ass.
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