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impyRM03
04-04-2004, 09:47 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3597887.stm


Protesters die in Iraq firefight


Moqtada Sadr supporters want US-led forces out of Iraq
At least 19 people have been killed and around 100 injured in clashes between Spanish-led troops and demonstrators in the Iraqi city of Najaf.
Soldiers shot at a crowd marching on their base, witnesses said, but it was not clear who had opened fire first.

The demonstrators were protesting at the reported arrest of an aide to firebrand Shia cleric Moqtada Sadr.

The US administrator in Iraq, Paul Bremer, said people had "crossed the line and moved to violence".


Days of protests

The protest took place outside the garrison of the Spanish military contingent, who lead the coalition forces in Najaf.

One report said two Iraqi soldiers, acting alongside coalition forces, were among the casualties.



Troops from El Salvador and other Spanish-speaking countries are also based at the camp.

One report said Spanish forces were pelted with stones, and responded by opening fire.

But one of the marchers, Hussein Ali, said the first shots came from the demonstrators.

"Some protesters, who were armed, fired toward the Spanish troops, who responded by firing on the crowd. It was carnage," he said.


At least some of those on the march were armed members of the Moqtada Sadr's banned Mehdi Army militia.

The demonstrators joined the protest after hearing that one of his senior aides, Mustafa al-Yacoubi, had been arrested.

Spanish troops in the area have said they had no information on the arrest, and the US cannot confirm an arrest either.

People have crossed the line... This will not be tolerated

US administrator Paul Bremer


Profile: Moqtada Sadr

The past few days have seen a number of demonstrations by Moqtada Sadr's followers, against the arrest of his aide and the closure of a pro-Sadr newspaper.

Mr Bremer said Iraqi people had acquired freedoms, but that they must be exercised peacefully.

"This morning in Najaf a group of people crossed the line and moved to violence. This will not be tolerated", he said.

He was speaking at a ceremony to initiate an Iraqi defence ministry and intelligence service, which he said would give Iraqis "the means to defend their country against terrorists".

On Sunday demonstrations by Shia radicals also erupted in Baghdad and the southern port of Basra. Gunfire broke out in the Baghdad protest, but there were no reports of serious casualties.


US marines killed

The American military said on Sunday that two US marines had been killed in the province of Al-Anbar, a hotbed of anti-coalition violence.

"One marine was killed in action yesterday. The other marine died today from wounds received in separate action yesterday," it said in a statement on Sunday.

The US military declined to give any further information on the latest incidents for security reasons.

The US has lost 459 service personnel in Iraq since President Bush declared major combat over on 1 May 2003.

In Samarra, about 100km (60 miles) north of Baghdad, a bomb exploded near a checkpoint manned by Iraqi Civil Defence Corps personnel, killing three of them and wounding one, local hospital workers said.

mack pl
04-04-2004, 09:57 AM
I heard in polish TV(Polsat) that 4 Salvador soldiers were killed in Najaf.I hope its false information :|

MARINO
04-04-2004, 10:00 AM
4 four Salvadorian soldiers killed, any Spanish soldier killed or wounded, Iraqis have attacked Iraqi police Headqarters, Spanish convoy was sent to help them.

RIP to Salvadorians

mack pl
04-04-2004, 10:07 AM
RIP :(

George W. Bush
04-04-2004, 10:07 AM
Time to stop playing with the fanatical terrorist Shias.

mack pl
04-04-2004, 10:35 AM
Time to stop playing with the fanatical terrorist Shias.What you mean?We cannot nuked them ;) Regards.

cut
04-04-2004, 01:03 PM
it's the "let's kill them and see how the iraqis react" approach

Kellhound
04-04-2004, 05:21 PM
Almost nothing of this in Spanish media (as usual). Watching BBC and CNN for this.

In news footage (from the side of the shooters) i saw one "demonstrator" shooting a pistol, another one shooting a folding stock AK, and burst fire was heard in the background.

Since spanish troops aren't allowed to fire in full auto (and having heard that particular sound before) that means at least a few more AKs.

Number of Salvarorians killed vary from 4 to 5, depending on the source.
At least 19 iraqis dead.

LJK
04-04-2004, 05:27 PM
Just heard from the news that seven US soldier killed and atleast 24 wounded. :|

Loco
04-04-2004, 05:35 PM
There were plentiful information in the evening TVnews of spanish channels, with images of the shootings. Shiies demonstrators tried to assault spanish base in Nayaf because they blamed spanish of being detained a Shii integrist cleric, although it seems as the cleric was detained in Baghdad by americans soldiers. The demonstrators began a shooting with Aks trying to assault the base, and they were rejected. No spanish soldiers injured, but 1 american soldier and 1 soldier of El Salvador were dead. The irakies had 18 deads. I saw images of the fights and of the injured irakies in the hospital.
Thatīs a bad news whatīs happening with shiies. They should being allied of occupations forces, but many of them now feel enough strong and clearly they want the occupation forces to get out of Irak so they can build and integrist islamic regime.

duck
04-04-2004, 05:36 PM
Sadr wants to be the leading Shia figure like so many others but lacks the formal authority. Violence is a tool for him to gather support before the handover. In my eyes he is a kind of Shia SA/SS leader controlling an assortment of gun-toting thugs and criminals.

Pooga
04-04-2004, 05:59 PM
What the crap is going on here?

Ichhabe
04-04-2004, 06:41 PM
If the Shi'its is taking up arms,... Well, then we can kiss any peacfull solution to the Iraqi problem goodbye. For a very long time.

One?
04-04-2004, 06:51 PM
Muqtada Al Sadr called the protestors to STOP protesting but "Fight" the
enemy.

Pissing off 80% of Iraq is not the right thing to do. Hopefuly no more people would die.

foxtrot023
04-04-2004, 08:23 PM
The latest news is that at least 29 people died, and over 200 were wounded from the shiite side. 1 salvadoran soldier died, but the US has not confirmed if they had a casualty. BTW Al-Sadr is really working hard to get arrested or to have a 9mm pill injected :bash: .

Regards

Truthsayer
04-04-2004, 10:11 PM
Latest news is also that the 'head-clergy' wanted people to stop these attacks and so on, while the much younger (*who's name I will never remember) is one of the more reactive ones, that are telling his followers to take up arms. They are not a large portions, but they are armed and probably (seeing all the assinations within their own ranks) out to get more power from the older, more moderate, clergics too...

Soulhunter
04-05-2004, 03:48 AM
7 US dead, 1 El Salvador, x Iraqis dead

plus numerous wounded on all sides ...

sounds like fun. not.