Should Marijuana be legalized?

[Sierra]

Me and my friend were talkin about it yesterday and I was curious what you guys think. It is legal in some parts of the world so I was curious do you think it should be legalized in the U.S.?

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Is it legal in Jamaica? must be right?

[Sierra]

Is it legal in Jamaica? must be right?i dunno if it is or not in Jamaica

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you should vote

[EvanL]

I dont see why it shouldnt be legalized the same way that alcohol is. It does less damage to you than alcohol does.

[Rantanplan]

Yes or not, I don't care.

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yeah I don't really care either

[Haiw]

Like Evan said; no reason not to legalise it. Just as long as you don't legalise any harddrugs of course.

[Jack Mehoff]

I heard anal *** is illegal in some countries.

[Ratamacue]

I don't use it nor am I really against it, so it doesn't matter to me.

[Seoulstriker]

Lenny to Homer Simpson in the 70s: "Come on, homer. One smoke isn't gonna hurt you."
Carl: "It's a gateway drug."



Drugs are illegal for a reason...

[Haiw]

Lenny to Homer Simpson in the 70s: "Come on, homer. One smoke isn't gonna hurt you."
Carl: "It's a gateway drug."



Drugs are illegal for a reason...
And which reason would that be? I mean, I can see the point in making harddrugs illegal, but when you legalise alcohol there's no reason not to legalise softdrugs.

[Sierra]

Lenny to Homer Simpson in the 70s: "Come on, homer. One smoke isn't gonna hurt you."
Carl: "It's a gateway drug."



Drugs are illegal for a reason...thats something else me and my friend were talking about yesterday.
its not a gateway drug.
(well, we dont see it as being one)

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Lenny to Homer Simpson in the 70s: "Come on, homer. One smoke isn't gonna hurt you."
Carl: "It's a gateway drug."



Drugs are illegal for a reason...

and the rampant hard drug epidemic in the netherlands provides your case in point?

:cantbeli:

[EvanL]

Lenny to Homer Simpson in the 70s: "Come on, homer. One smoke isn't gonna hurt you."
Carl: "It's a gateway drug."



Drugs are illegal for a reason...Yeh drugs are illegal. Marijuana isnt a drug. Its a herb. Thats why it grows from the ground. Its pure in its unaltered state. Alcohol is more of a drug than marijuana. You just dont like the idea of it cus all the kids who used to beat you up in High School probably smoked.

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herbal drug as opposed to chemical drug, mushrooms too then

[Seoulstriker]

Does anyone like the idea of 10 year olds smoking marijuana legally?

[Sierra]

Does anyone like the idea of 10 year olds smoking marijuana legally?there would be an age limit like cigarettes or alcohol.

[Haiw]

Does anyone like the idea of 10 year olds smoking marijuana legally?
:cantbeli:

[Ratamacue]

Lenny to Homer Simpson in the 70s: "Come on, homer. One smoke isn't gonna hurt you."
Carl: "It's a gateway drug."



Drugs are illegal for a reason...

I'm in a high school. Alot of my friends used to smoke weed, and I did on a select few occasions. None of them have ever gone on to anything harder. In fact, most of them got sort-of bored with it and quit. So don't give me any of that bull**** on "oh it's a gateway drug, it's the root of all drug evils." There's no way to prevent people from smoking marijuana nor any reason to do so, so you might as well legalize it.

[Haiw]

Lenny to Homer Simpson in the 70s: "Come on, homer. One smoke isn't gonna hurt you."
Carl: "It's a gateway drug."



Drugs are illegal for a reason...

I'm in a high school. Alot of my friends used to smoke weed, and I did on a select few occasions. None of them have ever gone on to anything harder. In fact, most of them got sort-of bored with it and quit. So don't give me any of that bull**** on "oh it's a gateway drug, it's the root of all drug evils." There's no way to prevent people from smoking marijuana nor any reason to do so, so you might as well legalize it.
... and tax it. p-)

[Ratamacue]

Hey, they tax tobacco, might as well tax weed. The government would probably make a damn nice profit off of it too.

[Flagg]

I dont see why it shouldnt be legalized the same way that alcohol is.

One question:

How do you measure impairment?

With alcohol, you can accurately determine the amount currently residing in the bloodstream with a high degree of accurancy......alcohol is also filtered out of the bloodstream and direct impairment is gone in no more than 24 hours, often as little as 8-12 hours.

How about pot?

What if you smoke a blunt......and drive your car and you cause a vehicular accident...how do you measure impairment?

Current testing methods are not accurate enough to determine specific impairment by pot...nor can smokers accurately determine the amount of THC they'll be absorbing....until after their stoned that is ;)

Also, the legal framework would need to be developed to ensure public safety.....(specific THC quantity in system, etc).

I think the biggest problem would be smoking pot yesterday, and driving your car tomorrow causing an accident, you test positive for THC, you're at fault.....I'm pretty sure THC is more "persistent" in the system than alcohol.....


Just a few things that would need to be squared away before it could be widely legalized.

[sethen]

Lenny to Homer Simpson in the 70s: "Come on, homer. One smoke isn't gonna hurt you."
Carl: "It's a gateway drug."



Drugs are illegal for a reason...thats something else me and my friend were talking about yesterday.
its not a gateway drug.
(well, we dont see it as being one)

A racist Texan pushed for the criminalization of marijuana in the 20's & 30's! The Texans new that Mexicans grew Marijuana and that they wouldn't migrate to areas were it was prohibited! And this Texan creep also pushed the idea that it was gate way drug!!!! Also the corrupt DEA and Military get lots of money to raid peoples fields. So legalisation who definately cut in to their budgets!!! And remember that what ever cops and soldiers want they get! Oh by the way A LOT of the Marijuana suddenly, "Disappears" before its destroyed!!!!! :-*$

http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread10094.shtml

[Beowulf]

I dont see why it shouldnt be legalized the same way that alcohol is.

One question:

How do you measure impairment?

With alcohol, you can accurately determine the amount currently residing in the bloodstream with a high degree of accurancy......alcohol is also filtered out of the bloodstream and direct impairment is gone in no more than 24 hours, often as little as 8-12 hours.

How about pot?

What if you smoke a blunt......and drive your car and you cause a vehicular accident...how do you measure impairment?

Current testing methods are not accurate enough to determine specific impairment by pot...nor can smokers accurately determine the amount of THC they'll be absorbing....until after their stoned that is ;)

Also, the legal framework would need to be developed to ensure public safety.....(specific THC quantity in system, etc).

I think the biggest problem would be smoking pot yesterday, and driving your car tomorrow causing an accident, you test positive for THC, you're at fault.....I'm pretty sure THC is more "persistent" in the system than alcohol.....


Just a few things that would need to be squared away before it could be widely legalized.

Precisely. Well said.

[100_Percent_HOOAH]

Yeh drugs are illegal. Marijuana isnt a drug. Its a herb. Thats why it grows from the ground. Its pure in its unaltered state. Alcohol is more of a drug than marijuana. You just dont like the idea of it cus all the kids who used to beat you up in High School probably smoked.

Agreed, my family was destroyed from alcohol, and many of my friends famlies as well. I think the gov't needs to focus more on the drugs that REALLY kill people; crack, X, Heroin are far worse and a viewed upon a lot less. Weed actually has benifical factors like medical uses and hemp for paper and rope. The whole thing of it being a gateway drug is BS also, just propaganda. I used to smoke and I never once tried anything else or wanted to, it's the person that decides to use other stuff..not the pot.

[Haiw]

Can't say it has been a problem here. Besides, anyone who's stoned on marihuana probably won't even THINK of driving. :)

[SeanAshi]

Like Evan said; no reason not to legalise it. Just as long as you don't legalise any harddrugs of course.It will never be legalized ;) Druggies should give up and go save the whales.

[EvanL]

Like Evan said; no reason not to legalise it. Just as long as you don't legalise any harddrugs of course.It will never be legalized ;) Druggies should give up and go save the whales.
It wont ever be in Texas. But it will in some states probably. And it definately will be in more countries within the next few years.

[SeanAshi]

In some states yes but there is still a federal law that will always overide that.
It's important to realize that the campaign to allow marijuana to be used as medicine is a tactical maneuver in an overall strategy to completely legalize all drugs. Pro-legalization groups have transformed the debate from decriminalizing drug use to one of compassion and care for people with serious diseases.
Will it ever be made legal in the states? Maybe but not anytime soon.

[EvanL]

In some states yes but there is still a federal law that will always overide that.
It's important to realize that the campaign to allow marijuana to be used as medicine is a tactical maneuver in an overall strategy to completely legalize all drugs. Pro-legalization groups have transformed the debate from decriminalizing drug use to one of compassion and care for people with serious diseases.
Will it ever be made legal in the states? Maybe but not anytime soon.Why would they be trying to lobby the legalization of all drugs? Can you cite the source that you obtained that paragraph from please?

[ChuckThunder]

Me and my friend were talkin about it yesterday and I was curious what you guys think. It is legal in some parts of the world so I was curious do you think it should be legalized in the U.S.?

No. Thats just me though, I don't drink, smoke, or do any drugs. Hell, I don't even drink soda, that **** is what makes America fat.

I've seen my little cousins come home and pound 3-4 Cokes while they watch TV and do their homework, plus all the soda they had while they were at school. :|

[SeanAshi]

Can you cite the source that you obtained that paragraph from please?United States Drug Enforcement Administration: http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/concern/marijuana.html

[Seoulstriker]

No. Thats just me though, I don't drink, smoke, or do any drugs. Hell, I don't even drink soda, that **** is what makes America fat.

I've seen my little cousins come home and pound 3-4 Cokes while they watch TV and do their homework, plus all the soda they had while they were at school. :|


indeed. :| i've given up soda for about 3 years now. i've completely given up added/refined sugar as well for about a year. i have learned that sugar is the devil. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/images/smilies/FIREdevil.gif

sugar is indeed why there are so many fat people. LONG LIVE ATKINS!

[EvanL]

No. Thats just me though, I don't drink, smoke, or do any drugs. Hell, I don't even drink soda, that **** is what makes America fat.

I've seen my little cousins come home and pound 3-4 Cokes while they watch TV and do their homework, plus all the soda they had while they were at school. :|


indeed. :| i've given up soda for about 3 years now. i've completely given up added/refined sugar as well for about a year. i have learned that sugar is the devil. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/images/smilies/FIREdevil.gif

sugar is indeed why there are so many fat people. LONG LIVE ATKINS!
Pshh. Thats hwy he died. SLipping on ice. Poor fool. Too bad atkins only works for people with fast metabolisms. Post your pic again to show us how well its working out for you.. (sarcasm)

[ChuckThunder]

No. Thats just me though, I don't drink, smoke, or do any drugs. Hell, I don't even drink soda, that **** is what makes America fat.

I've seen my little cousins come home and pound 3-4 Cokes while they watch TV and do their homework, plus all the soda they had while they were at school. :|


indeed. :| i've given up soda for about 3 years now. i've completely given up added/refined sugar as well for about a year. i have learned that sugar is the devil. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/images/smilies/FIREdevil.gif

sugar is indeed why there are so many fat people. LONG LIVE ATKINS!
Pshh. Thats hwy he died. SLipping on ice. Poor fool. Too bad atkins only works for people with fast metabolisms. Post your pic again to show us how well its working out for you.. (sarcasm)

Yes, I too agree Atkins is a joke. I PT hard every day and I eat normal food.

[Haiw]

Can you cite the source that you obtained that paragraph from please?United States Drug Enforcement Administration: http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/concern/marijuana.html
No offense, but they can't even get their marijuana facts straight, and I doubt they'd say anything that would shed marijuana in a positive light.

Oh, and what's wrong with all the soda? I mean, I've always drank it, and I've never been fat (on the contrary, right now I'm pretty much dieting to get rid of underweight).

[rob]

Should Marijuana be legalized?









hell yeah,

hell it would only make it harder to get for teens in high school. trust me, i high school you can basically buy weed from anyone, but alcohol is damn hard to get because there is no demand for such a stong black market because anyone over 21 can get it ast safeway. and besides it is less harmfull then some other drugs out there which are legal, *cough*alcohol*cough*

[SeanAshi]

No offense, but they can't even get their marijuana facts straight, and I doubt they'd say anything that would shed marijuana in a positive light.
You don't believe them like I don't believe you and I doubt you would tell me somthing about marijuana in a negative way...ehh?

[Haiw]

No offense, but they can't even get their marijuana facts straight, and I doubt they'd say anything that would shed marijuana in a positive light.
You don't believe them like I don't believe you and I doubt you would tell me somthing about marijuana in a negative way...ehh?
Well contrary to what you might believe I'm not a marijuana user so there's no reason why I would be talking outta my ass.

[Maine Finn]

Marijuana is fun. p-)

[Seoulstriker]

No. Thats just me though, I don't drink, smoke, or do any drugs. Hell, I don't even drink soda, that **** is what makes America fat.

I've seen my little cousins come home and pound 3-4 Cokes while they watch TV and do their homework, plus all the soda they had while they were at school. :|


indeed. :| i've given up soda for about 3 years now. i've completely given up added/refined sugar as well for about a year. i have learned that sugar is the devil. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/images/smilies/FIREdevil.gif

sugar is indeed why there are so many fat people. LONG LIVE ATKINS!
Pshh. Thats hwy he died. SLipping on ice. Poor fool. Too bad atkins only works for people with fast metabolisms. Post your pic again to show us how well its working out for you.. (sarcasm)

http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/pimp.jpg

1) I'm not on atkins.
2) atkins IS normal food
3) that's what you're probably eating right now.


atkins is basically a high-protein/low-carbohydrate diet. it's not much more beyond that. :|

[Fargin]

Marijuana is fun. p-)

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[TRACER_BULLET]

I dont see why it shouldnt be legalized the same way that alcohol is.

One question:

How do you measure impairment?

With alcohol, you can accurately determine the amount currently residing in the bloodstream with a high degree of accurancy......alcohol is also filtered out of the bloodstream and direct impairment is gone in no more than 24 hours, often as little as 8-12 hours.

How about pot?

What if you smoke a blunt......and drive your car and you cause a vehicular accident...how do you measure impairment?

Current testing methods are not accurate enough to determine specific impairment by pot...nor can smokers accurately determine the amount of THC they'll be absorbing....until after their stoned that is ;)

Also, the legal framework would need to be developed to ensure public safety.....(specific THC quantity in system, etc).

I think the biggest problem would be smoking pot yesterday, and driving your car tomorrow causing an accident, you test positive for THC, you're at fault.....I'm pretty sure THC is more "persistent" in the system than alcohol.....


Just a few things that would need to be squared away before it could be widely legalized.


This is in my oppion the only reason why it shouldn't be legalized
Very insightfull flag :)

The History channel, I believe it was had a show about "Marijuana" and why it was orginally outlawed ... and what effects have been found though all the studies that have been done. Very informative, I think in time it should be legalized, but first the points flag brought up would need to be addressed.


Does anyone like the idea of 10 year olds smoking marijuana legally?

If you use an arguement like the one above... Whats the differance between that mind set and the one that started prohibition?? Obviously there would be age limits, Personally I think usage would sky rocket at first but then it would lose its "I'm gonna do it cuz i'm told i can't" apeal.

Think for a second, if hemp at least was legalized we'd have a cheeper source for paper, its a fact that hemp produces more paper pulp per acer then trees, needs less water and grows a whole hell of a lot faster. We could cut down on the logging of old growth forest.

But like most everything elts its all about politics :|
So dont count on it geting legalized any time soon kiddies.



btw I don't smoke... :D

[EvanL]

No. Thats just me though, I don't drink, smoke, or do any drugs. Hell, I don't even drink soda, that **** is what makes America fat.

I've seen my little cousins come home and pound 3-4 Cokes while they watch TV and do their homework, plus all the soda they had while they were at school. :|


indeed. :| i've given up soda for about 3 years now. i've completely given up added/refined sugar as well for about a year. i have learned that sugar is the devil. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/images/smilies/FIREdevil.gif

sugar is indeed why there are so many fat people. LONG LIVE ATKINS!
Pshh. Thats hwy he died. SLipping on ice. Poor fool. Too bad atkins only works for people with fast metabolisms. Post your pic again to show us how well its working out for you.. (sarcasm)

http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/pzavisla/hostedmilitaryimages/pimp.jpg

1) I'm not on atkins.
2) atkins IS normal food
3) that's what you're probably eating right now.


atkins is basically a high-protein/low-carbohydrate diet. it's not much more beyond that. :|
I am aware of what atkins is. And it does **** all.
I dont need no atkins. You can eat healthy without following the newest diet craze among fat middle aged women. DOnt drink soda. DOnt eat junk food. Drink water. Eat lean meats, Chicken/Fish/Bison. And run and workout like hell...
http://www.imageshack.us/img2/779/killa2.jpg

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Yeh drugs are illegal. Marijuana isnt a drug. Its a herb. Thats why it grows from the ground. Its pure in its unaltered state. Alcohol is more of a drug than marijuana. You just dont like the idea of it cus all the kids who used to beat you up in High School probably smoked.

Good point :lol:


How about pot?

What if you smoke a blunt......and drive your car and you cause a vehicular accident...how do you measure impairment?

Current testing methods are not accurate enough to determine specific impairment by pot...nor can smokers accurately determine the amount of THC they'll be absorbing....until after their stoned that is

I live in a place thats proudly "smoke happy" to say the least, alot of people smoke and drive, does it cause more accidents? From what I've seen no.

It basically depends on the person, if its the first time someones ever smoked a joint and they jump in there car and speed off...well what do you expect? Of course they are going to crash, if they can even figure out how to turn the car over. But if its someone who's been smoking since they were a teenager and can handle it, they usually drive better :lol:


Marijuana is fun.


Word^ :P

[Maine Finn]

woot

[TriggerPuller]

I heard anal *** is illegal in some countries.
Too bad for you there sweetcheeks!!

TP

[wholagun]

I just tried the green stuff a few days back for the first time and I must say, alchol has nothing on weed. That stuff is pretty trippy, but should be done in moderation as with all things. I really hope we can legalize the stuff in Canada.

[NcDeuce]

The score is 19-17, No leading...how bout them Lady Vols? rofl

[Caribou Kid]

woot
Legalise..it..Don't Criticise it..

p-)

"Remember, it's a Coffee shop, and not a Coffee HOUSE. There's a big difference"

^
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*Note to self upon arriving in Amsterdam

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Keep the f*cking stuff banned and give anyone selling it 10 years minimum. :|

[Fargin]

legal = un-fun


p-)

[XTC]

Keep the f*cking stuff banned and give anyone selling it 10 years minimum. :|

:cantbeli:

[molly747]

I don't have a real problem with it being legalized. It's natural, it's from the earth... but then comes the tricky situation with opium and cocaine. They're from the Earth, too. I think, with this argument, there will always be checks and balances.

I'm more Libertarian in my approach to drugs, but now I see drugs as something I have outgrown. I'm 24, going to be starting my career any day now and paying for my own lifestyle, so I don't partake anymore. I don't have a problem with people that do, I think what they do in the privacy of their own home is their business. But if legalizing it means taking the fun out of it, then go for it. If I have to hear any more conversations about dank and schwag or see some loser teenager in a pot-leaf t-shirt... :roll:

[el borracho]

There is no real reason to keep it illegal. It's just that it has that stigma about it. If the gov't legalizes it, keeps production and distribution under control, then taxes the hell out of it (a la tobacco) they stand to make a nice profit. Just keep strict laws about the allowable amount for one person to have, driving under the influence, and make the legal buying age 21, etc. That should cover most bases.

Like others have said, go to any given high school and you could find weed anywhere you want...alcohol on the other hand is a lot harder to come by. Basically the only way to get that is to find an adult that will either sell it to you, or buy it for you. In the case of marijuana, make the penalty for contribution to minors more strict than alcohol...but if it's legal we can empty the jails and juvenile halls of those "hardened criminals" whose crime was having a few grams of weed on their person when they were arrested.

About marijuana being a gateway drug, recent studies have shown that there is no way to correlate such a thing with weed. Cause so many have smoked it and not gone on to worse things, so in that sense you could say anything like "drinking milk is a gateway drug."

I've also read that the lumber industry in the US has invested tons of money to politicians that insist weed should remain illegal. If it was legalized, hemp is a lot cheaper than lumber and would make a superior paper product, thereby putting the lumber industry out of business. This seems very plausible since our politicians and government have chains around their balls from private companies.

[Pandy]

Well, this is the way I see it;

Marijuana is more better for you then Alcohol. Two reasons, you never heard of anyone dying from smoking too much Marijuana, they'll just pass out if anything. Alcohol, you drink too much... you die. And number two, both Marijuana tends to calm someone then make them angry. Never once I smoked and gotten into a fight because I was stoned, but when I'm drunk and something makes me angry... I get pissed, a round of betting takes place and the fight begans.

Along with that, think hard about other drugs. How do you think they get the money to grow, make and send in the harder drugs. Some random joe grows some Marijuana in South America, it's cheap, easy to hide, and don't need to make anything out of it. Just need to dry it and then you can sell it on the spot.

Joe makes the money, sells it to people who would take it into the United States. After time, he has enough money to start thinking about making harder drugs, for MORE money. Begans doing that with the Marijuana trade still hard and kicking. After a few years, be can began making crack and coke very easily, along with a solid base of Marijuana to send it into the United States.

Because of Marijuana being so easily grown and sold, people can gain the money to make harder drugs. Making it Legal will take that base from the low timers and allowing an open gap in the money supply for our drug dealers. Another words, you took about 1/3 to 2/3 the money the dealers in South America would be making and slowing the crack and coke prodcation.

Taxing Marijuana would also help the United States. To my understanding, if you tax Marijuana like you would have to Cigs, it'll be only 50% more from stores, (weed itself and seeds), and I think we would pull the United States out of debt.

I think President Bush might be pushed into making it Legal, not the fact that it'll stop some of the harder drugs, but it'll pull the USA out of debt very easily.


There is no real reason to keep it illegal. It's just that it has that stigma about it. If the gov't legalizes it, keeps production and distribution under control, then taxes the hell out of it (a la tobacco) they stand to make a nice profit. Just keep strict laws about the allowable amount for one person to have, driving under the influence, and make the legal buying age 21, etc. That should cover most bases.

Like others have said, go to any given high school and you could find weed anywhere you want...alcohol on the other hand is a lot harder to come by. Basically the only way to get that is to find an adult that will either sell it to you, or buy it for you. In the case of marijuana, make the penalty for contribution to minors more strict than alcohol...but if it's legal we can empty the jails and juvenile halls of those "hardened criminals" whose crime was having a few grams of weed on their person when they were arrested.

About marijuana being a gateway drug, recent studies have shown that there is no way to correlate such a thing with weed. Cause so many have smoked it and not gone on to worse things, so in that sense you could say anything like "drinking milk is a gateway drug."

I've also read that the lumber industry in the US has invested tons of money to politicians that insist weed should remain illegal. If it was legalized, hemp is a lot cheaper than lumber and would make a superior paper product, thereby putting the lumber industry out of business. This seems very plausible since our politicians and government have chains around their balls from private companies.

Along with the old boy saying, all correct and true. Only worse thing I've ever done in my WHOLE life from weed is X, and that was one time. (Chick somewhat forced me... eh...)

[tenda]

hell yeah...!!! ;)

[joka]

I think if pot indeed is a gateway drug, it's only becouse it is illegal right now. When someone gets caught using pot, they get a criminal record and become (more) alienated from society.

Yeah, it should be legalized.

[DixieDude]

I dont see why it shouldnt be legalized the same way that alcohol is.

One question:

How do you measure impairment?

With alcohol, you can accurately determine the amount currently residing in the bloodstream with a high degree of accurancy......alcohol is also filtered out of the bloodstream and direct impairment is gone in no more than 24 hours, often as little as 8-12 hours.

How about pot?

What if you smoke a blunt......and drive your car and you cause a vehicular accident...how do you measure impairment?

Current testing methods are not accurate enough to determine specific impairment by pot...nor can smokers accurately determine the amount of THC they'll be absorbing....until after their stoned that is ;)

Also, the legal framework would need to be developed to ensure public safety.....(specific THC quantity in system, etc).

I think the biggest problem would be smoking pot yesterday, and driving your car tomorrow causing an accident, you test positive for THC, you're at fault.....I'm pretty sure THC is more "persistent" in the system than alcohol.....


Just a few things that would need to be squared away before it could be widely legalized.

Not the "driving high" **** again :roll:

Since marijuana is illegal, it is often used more because of that. If the government were to legalize it and put a nice tax on it, less people would do it. Some people(usually kids) do it for the thrill....because its illegal. Others do it for the high. AND since marijuana is basically non-addictive, people wouldn't get addicted to it like people that smoke cigs do.

I, myself, have contridictions about marijuana being a "gateway" drug. Most of my friends have moved on to harder things. Over the summer cocaine became popular. Then once there was a good supply coming in, everyone seemed to do cocaine more than pot. Now its random stuff, but cocaine is still at the top. I know people who moved to heroin, opium, painkillers(opiates - codone, oxycodone, morphine), adderall(speed), ecstasy, etc. etc. Please understand though, that most of the people that live around me are rich people....doctors, lawyers, business owners, chain owners, etc. so they have the money for these things.

I think its all ok, as long as you have enough self-control not to do something stupid and ruin your life. I have only done pot, cocaine(twice), adderall(once) and some opiates. Im not addicted or anything. I can quit completely anytime I want. I've smoked plenty of cigs and NEVER gotten addicted or had a craving for another one. I'm weird I guess... :D

[MaDuce]

Me and my friend were talkin about it yesterday and I was curious what you guys think. It is legal in some parts of the world so I was curious do you think it should be legalized in the U.S.?

A fellow citizen of the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts hey woot Stoned drivers are safer then drunk drivers altough they are both compared beyond a safe point. It is also a oppurtunity for the government to raise lots of revenue.

[Stormy]

Hey..... why not.

[MaDuce]

You won't geta good example in the off topic forums since everyone here has some sort of chemical dependency.

[Aerosoul]

Sure, legalize it. I don't want to smoke it anymore I just want people to stop talking about it, and how cool they think they are foir doing something illegal.

[Stormy]

I think it's legal in Switzerland, Netherlands & Jamaica, no ?

[toki]

I think it's legal in Switzerland, Netherlands & Jamaica, no ?

Netherlands for sure. but it's almost legal in half of europe. My brother got "busted" what happened? NOTHING. The Cops just took it and he had to write a letter it was not from him. And with the "non existing" borders in europe it's almost impossible to have it legal in the Netherlands and illegal for example in germany. The times are gone that you really get "busted" because of weed.

I'm not a pothead btw it makes you slooooow. :| like to many friends of mine.

edit: I actually think many kids don't even know that it's theoretically illegal... like i said:

huuuh, dude? did you say anything? ahhhhh i'm hungry gimme chocolate.

[DixieDude]

Lenny to Homer Simpson in the 70s: "Come on, homer. One smoke isn't gonna hurt you."
Carl: "It's a gateway drug."



Drugs are illegal for a reason...thats something else me and my friend were talking about yesterday.
its not a gateway drug.
(well, we dont see it as being one)

A racist Texan pushed for the criminalization of marijuana in the 20's & 30's! The Texans new that Mexicans grew Marijuana and that they wouldn't migrate to areas were it was prohibited! And this Texan creep also pushed the idea that it was gate way drug!!!! Also the corrupt DEA and Military get lots of money to raid peoples fields. So legalisation who definately cut in to their budgets!!! And remember that what ever cops and soldiers want they get! Oh by the way A LOT of the Marijuana suddenly, "Disappears" before its destroyed!!!!! :-*$

http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread10094.shtml

Talk about corruption.....think about the Vietnam War...... :roll:
Think about the general's wives smoking in opium dens p-)

[Stormy]

Yeah toki, I don't smoke at all too. What is worst, Alcohol or Marijuana ?

[toki]

Yeah toki, I don't smoke at all too. What is worst, Alcohol or Marijuana ?

Alcohol is more a hard toxic. Go drunken to school and you do it just once.
But you can go to school stoned for years everything passes you by and the teachers just see the lazy unmotivated kid. The thing about wweed is kids smoke it with twelve before school in the morning. Got very common in the last years. They get slow and stupid in the most important phase of life. Not compared to grown ups who smoke from time to time.

But Alcohol is such a toxic it's impossible to drink it everyday and live a normal life. Marijuhana is more subtle. And that's the problem i see in it.

I honestly like to get pissed from time to time... i mean drunken. But the fact that you feel bad the next day is like a inner brake. I would never let it rule my life. That break is not there with weed.

My brother smokes since years. He has really gotten somehow slow. He's smart, but somehow the typical pothead-

[WolverineBlue]

Should be legalized, but it won't be due to aforementioned corporations who don't want to lose their lumber business. Allegedly, we can get ten times as much paper from an acre of hemp as from an acre of trees. Also, pot was made illegal in 1937, two years after DuPont got its patent for nylon (hemp can be used to make very durable clothes -- something the petrochemical companies don't want).

When I was in college in Ann Arbor (she's not a whore, Buckeye fags), it was a $5 ticket, not misdemeanor, a ticket, if you had an OUNCE or less. Then there was a city referendum which was approved to make it a more serious offense. Still, we had the Hash Bash every April Fool's Day right in the middle of campus, with cops walking around watching everyone smoke weed right in their faces. These shady looking dudes (looked straight out of the 'Stan) had a brick of hash with some Arabic-looking stamp on it, shaving some off and sticking it in this big-ass hookah right on the brass 'M' in the middle of the Diag...friggin' fun fun fun. Then the cops arrested some dirtbags who decided it was a good idea to shoot up some smack during the Bash...lol.

[farmgirl]

Should be legalized, but it won't be due to aforementioned corporations who don't want to lose their lumber business. Allegedly, we can get ten times as much paper from an acre of hemp as from an acre of trees. Also, pot was made illegal in 1937, two years after DuPont got its patent for nylon (hemp can be used to make very durable clothes -- something the petrochemical companies don't want).

When I was in college in Ann Arbor (she's not a whore, Buckeye fags), it was a $5 ticket, not misdemeanor, a ticket, if you had an OUNCE or less. Then there was a city referendum which was approved to make it a more serious offense. Still, we had the Hash Bash every April Fool's Day right in the middle of campus, with cops walking around watching everyone smoke weed right in their faces. These shady looking dudes (looked straight out of the 'Stan) had a brick of hash with some Arabic-looking stamp on it, shaving some off and sticking it in this big-ass hookah right on the brass 'M' in the middle of the Diag...friggin' fun fun fun. Then the cops arrested some dirtbags who decided it was a good idea to shoot up some smack during the Bash...lol.


But you were just there to report for the campus paper.... right? :D

[Hellfish]

I don't smoke and I don't know if it should be legalized, per se, but I do think it should be de-criminalized to an extent. If you're caught with less than a dimebag's worth, then you should just have it get confiscated and/or a fine of like $100.

No sense in throwing people in jail because they had a single friggin' joint.

[Hawkeye]

I think it's legal in Switzerland, Netherlands & Jamaica, no ?

*cough* BELGIUM!*cough*

[Stormy]

Ehem~~~~ and Belgium ;)

[Group9]

Lenny to Homer Simpson in the 70s: "Come on, homer. One smoke isn't gonna hurt you."
Carl: "It's a gateway drug."



Drugs are illegal for a reason...thats something else me and my friend were talking about yesterday.
its not a gateway drug.
(well, we dont see it as being one)

Users never do.

[Haiw]

Actually it isn't a gateway drug. After legalisation here hard drug use have been lower. In fact, all drug use here is lower now than it was 10 years ago.

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

I think all drugs should be de-criminalized in so far as junkies are concerned. If a person only has a small amount it should only be confiscated and they attend a drug rehab course like AA.

People that deal in the stuff on the other hand should be convicted. Drug addiction is a illness. And should be treated as such.

And at concerts, raves, big nightclubs health professionals should be able to test drugs to determin the toxic levels to prevent OD's, or people taking a bad pill. There has been a few events in Australia of Dr's attenting raves, concerts and going to random nightclubs setting up a booth and conducting tests on drugs. It's seen as a success. In that no-one OD, and there was no drug related problems with the crowd.

Going after the user is not the reason why we have drug problems. We need to go after the dealers who are pushing the drugs.

[One?]

legalize it and let the government make money from it. Instead of spending millions of dollars on fighting it, becuase we all know people will never stop smoking it.

[disabled1]

i think it needs to be legalized but kept under strict rules ie no driving under the influence etc. i also think it should be tested against the effects of ptsd for war vets.

[Haiw]

i think it needs to be legalized but kept under strict rules ie no driving under the influence etc. i also think it should be tested against the effects of ptsd for war vets.
Wouldn't advise it there. It also has a bad effect on people suffering from psychosis, so there's a good chance it could only make PTSD effects worse. Of course it might improve things without negative side effects, but I wouldn't want to bet too much money on it.

[DarkCypher]

No.

My sister is damn near brain dead because of 2 years of heavy Marijuana abuse. She would get halfway through a sentence and forget what the **** she was talking about.

I haven't seen her in nearly 2 years and my parents don't know where she is either.

[Nawlins]

No.

My sister is damn near brain dead because of 2 years of heavy Marijuana abuse. She would get halfway through a sentence and forget what the f*** she was talking about.

I haven't seen her in nearly 2 years and my parents don't know where she is either.

I know a few people who did the same thing. I've never seen the kind of sudden and severe damage to brain function in heavy drinkers that I've seen in people who smoked alot of weed. So I'm not buying the crap that it's safer than alcohol. It's illegal for a reason.

I also hate the argument that it's natural so it must be okay. Just because it grows out of the ground doesn't mean we're meant to use it for our consumption. Nightshade and belladonna are plants, too. Don't be stupid.

And finally, a side comment. Atkins might be the latest fad sweeping the nation, but it really works for some people.

[Haiw]

No.

My sister is damn near brain dead because of 2 years of heavy Marijuana abuse. She would get halfway through a sentence and forget what the f*** she was talking about.
You can archieve the same effect (or worse) with perfectly legal alcohol.

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

Man you havent lived unless you have gone on a weekand acid trip, rave away on x or get into some magic shrooms.

And ahm I'm allright.

[DarkCypher]

Man you havent lived unless you have gone on a weekand acid trip, rave away on x or get into some magic shrooms.

And ahm I'm allright.

If your being serious you're a ****ing idiot.

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

I gave a serious reply earlier. Was just being a smart ass.

Like every mind altering substance. Taken in moderation any drug or intoxicating substance is safe. Problem with narcotics is that governments can not control the production. Because you either have your chemical substance drugs or naturally occuring drugs. The production cant be controlled by the government.

You can bet your ass. If the government could control the production of drugs they would be legalised under similar laws to tobacco and alcohole.

I've had old school mates phuck their lives up on pot. Just as I've seen mates phuck their lives up on grog. Personally I think alcohole is much much worse then people being stoned, high on acid or eating the shrooms. I know a few recreational drug users and I must say I've seen people do far worse things drunk then being stoned

[Ratman]

I heard anal *** is illegal in some countries.

Do you mean some States? Don't go trying no bufu on someone in Louisiana now, with the curtains on the bay window open....

Legalize weed. Yes. IMO, it is no worse than ciggies or alcohol, if not for different reasons. And, like a nice pint of the heavy or a full-bodied red, it has some established medicinal uses.