Ultimate Risk SAS in Afghanistan

[Aussie E]

Just finished finished reading Ultimate Risk by Mark Nicol. Good read. Had a hell of a time finding it here in the US, finally had my father send me a copy from the homeland. I was wondering if any one else had read it or new anything else about the assualt on the Al-Qaeda opium plant that the book is about?

[Universal]

After finding out about "the real bravo two zero" I hardly believe any book written about army/SF missions.

[mocking_loudly_died]

Guide to penning an SAS book.

1.Always blame the Americans for bombing you’re unit / leaving your unit exposed / or just being bloody yanks.

2.Place the words “wanker”, “rag head” and “203” randomly through our your literary masterpiece.

3.Exaggerate, as it helps sell books.

4.Appear on syndicated TV interviews where the interviewer is completely ignorant about Special Forces and asks questions relating to cyborgs and gene manipulation in soldiers.

[wholagun]

Guide to penning an SAS book.

1.Always blame the Americans for bombing you’re unit / leaving your unit exposed / or just being bloody yanks.

2.Place the words “wanker”, “rag head” and “203” randomly through our your literary masterpiece.

3.Exaggerate, as it helps sell books.

4.Appear on syndicated TV interviews where the interviewer is completely ignorant about Special Forces and asks questions relating to cyborgs and gene manipulation in soldiers.

It never ceases to amaze me how one person have often have such posts of genious. I wish we had a bowing emotion for instances like this, the present ones if used would't do you any justice Im afraid....
Somtimes your posts are so good and so accurate its scary. p-)

[Gringo]

After finding out about "the real bravo two zero" I hardly believe any book written about army/SF missions.

That book is bollecks, u can't take the word of someone who wasn't even there to tell the absolute truth.
I recommend u read Soldier 5 by Mike Coburn.

[Haiw]

Guide to penning an SAS book.

1.Always blame the Americans for bombing you’re unit / leaving your unit exposed / or just being bloody yanks.

2.Place the words “wanker”, “rag head” and “203” randomly through our your literary masterpiece.

3.Exaggerate, as it helps sell books.

4.Appear on syndicated TV interviews where the interviewer is completely ignorant about Special Forces and asks questions relating to cyborgs and gene manipulation in soldiers.
5.End any sentence in a conversation with 'mate'.

6.Call everything the press says 'bollocks'.

7.Piss off all your old mates by putting info on the street that shouldn't be on the street.

8.Tell once again how the SAS would have got Bin Laden by now if it weren't for the US.

I give you...a bestseller. ;)

[Gringo]

Wow! That short story I wrote for English coursework would make a fortune!

[gaz]

That book is bollecks, u can't take the word of someone who wasn't even there to tell the absolute truth.
I recommend u read Soldier 5 by Mike Coburn.

You can't take the word of someone who was there to tell the absolute truth so that argument really goes both ways.

[MEGR]

"The Real Bravo 2 zero" Haven't heard of it.. Enlighten me.

[Gringo]

That book is bollecks, u can't take the word of someone who wasn't even there to tell the absolute truth.
I recommend u read Soldier 5 by Mike Coburn.

You can't take the word of someone who was there to tell the absolute truth so that argument really goes both ways.

But, u can't take a person word who wasn't in the patrol or nowhere near, to tell the "real" truth.

[Universal]

"The Real Bravo 2 zero" Haven't heard of it.. Enlighten me.

well my good friend, apparently the book bravo 2 zero turned out to be nothing but a scam. Micheal Usher, an ex-SAS soldier went to Iraq to trace the patrol as it was described in the book, he found out it was all lies and deception. Most of the events in the book didn't actually occur, or they did but in a totaly different manner. They say they killed over 150 iraqis, in reality, they didn't kill anyone. They were trying to look like heroes.

[Aussie E]

I guess no one has read the book.
They take the blame for almost creating a friendly fire incident and I don't remeber the line about how they would have got Bin Laden. I could be way off base here but I found that the author for not "being" there did a good job( critizing the SM for moving forward and the wound to the back of the calf as examples). Seems that guys sitting at home have made up there mind about any books not by someone "being" there. And that if it's by a foreigner it must be utter ****e.

[Imshi-Yallah]

I have read the book and while it isnt as bad as the handywork of Handy Backstab it still reveals unit SOPs and talks a load of crap macho fantasy dialogue for boys who wear pants in the shower.

Soldier five is probably the best SAS book ever written in that its intentions are actually to restore a dead man's honour.
Whatever else about McNab he did stitch up Vince Phillips unfairly and caused untold pain to the dead mans family.
If that isnt a burn in hell offence what is.

[Argyll]

Soldier 5 is a great book,he(Coburn) never came across as a "wanker",he also stated that the Iraqi's knew they were SAS/Special Forces,after the Interogations...........more than the rest of the books admitted

[Fenna]

Has that guy Eddie Stone ever witten a book?

That'd make interesting reading

[cut]

bah there's SAS and then there are VC winners



http://www.army.mod.uk/img/gurkhas/Vc25.jpg

Rifleman Lachiman Gurung,
8th Gurkha Rifles, Burma
12/13th May 1945

"...Rifleman Lachhiman Gurung was manning the most forward post of his platoon. At 0120 hours at least 200 enemy assaulted his Company position. The brunt of the attack was borne by Rifleman Lachhiman Gurung's section and by his own post in particular...

Before assaulting, the enemy hurled innumerable grenades at the position from close range. One grenade fell on the lip of Rifleman Lachhiman Gurung's trench; he at once grasped it and hurled it back at the enemy. Almost immediately another grenade fell directly inside the trench. Again this Rifleman snatched it up and threw it back. A third grenade fell just in front of the trench. He attempted to throw it back, but it exploded in his hand, blowing off his fingers, shattering his right arm and severely wounding him in the face, body and right leg. His two comrades were also badly wounded and lay helpless in the bottom of the trench.

...Rifleman Lachhiman Gurung, regardless of his wounds, fired and loaded his rifle with his left hand... Wave after wave of fanatical attacks were thrown in by the enemy and all were repulsed with heavy casualties. For four hours after being severely wounded Rifleman Lachhiman Gurung remained alone at his post waiting with perfect calm for each attack... Of the 87 enemy dead counted in the immediate vicinity of the Company locality, 31 lay in front of this Rifleman's section, the key to the whole position...

This Rifleman, by his magnificant example, so inspired his comrades to resist the enemy to the last, that, although surrounded and cut off for three days and two nights, they held and smashed every attack..."

Extracts from London Gazette 27 July 1945


and this guy is still alive today!!

[gaz]

But, u can't take a person word who wasn't in the patrol or nowhere near, to tell the "real" truth.

It all depends upon his sources who would be people who were there, so at the end of the day it still depends upon the guys who were there, one of them could lie to an interviewer or lie in his own book, it really makes no difference,

[Gringo]

But, u can't take a person word who wasn't in the patrol or nowhere near, to tell the "real" truth.

It all depends upon his sources who would be people who were there, so at the end of the day it still depends upon the guys who were there, one of them could lie to an interviewer or lie in his own book, it really makes no difference,

Now that I think of it, Soldier 5 and The Real Bravo Two Zero does make more sense of what might had happened.