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WhiskeyTango
09-12-2006, 01:04 PM
I found this at Yahoo News this morning and wanted to share…I know we have some netters here that are a lot smarter than I am and I’d like to get your take on this… Let the lively debate begin

The Nation - Mon Sep 11, 9:49 PM ET
The Nation (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/thenation/cm_thenation/storytext/15120539/20253710/SIG=10qa2akrp/*http:/www.thenation.com) -- Keith Olbermann is without a doubt the best news anchor on television today. Two weeks ago, echoing the spirit of the legendary Edward R. Murrow, Olbermann took Donald Rumsfeld (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/thenation/cm_thenation/storytext/15120539/20253710/SIG=117vkhleh/*http:/www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12131617/#060830b) to task for comparing critics of the Iraq (http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news/?p=Iraq) war to Nazi appeasers. Tonight, broadcasting live from above a desolate and still demolished Ground Zero, Olbermann delivered a stirring eight minute commentary indicting the Bush Administration's shameful and tragic response to 9/11. The entire speech (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/thenation/cm_thenation/storytext/15120539/20253710/SIG=116mosaik/*http:/www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/#060911a) is worth watching and reading, so I'm posting the full text below.

Half a lifetime ago, I worked in this now-empty space. And for 40 days after the attacks, I worked here again, trying to make sense of what happened, and was yet to happen, as a reporter.
All the time, I knew that the very air I breathed contained the remains of thousands of people, including four of my friends, two in the planes and -- as I discovered from those "missing posters" seared still into my soul -- two more in the Towers.
And I knew too, that this was the pyre for hundreds of New York policemen and firemen, of whom my family can claim half a dozen or more, as our ancestors.
I belabor this to emphasize that, for me this was, and is, and always shall be, personal.
And anyone who claims that I and others like me are "soft," or have "forgotten" the lessons of what happened here is at best a grasping, opportunistic, dilettante and at worst, an idiot whether he is a commentator, or a Vice President, or a President.
However, of all the things those of us who were here five years ago could have forecast -- of all the nightmares that unfolded before our eyes, and the others that unfolded only in our minds -- none of us could have predicted this.
Five years later this space is still empty.
Five years later there is no memorial to the dead.
Five years later there is no building rising to show with proud defiance that we would not have our America wrung from us, by cowards and criminals.
Five years later this country's wound is still open.
Five years later this country's mass grave is still unmarked.
Five years later this is still just a background for a photo-op.
It is beyond shameful.
At the dedication of the *****sburg Memorial -- barely four months after the last soldier staggered from another Pennsylvania field -- Mr. Lincoln said, "we cannot dedicate, we cannot consecrate, we cannot hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract."
Lincoln used those words to immortalize their sacrifice.
Today our leaders could use those same words to rationalize their reprehensible inaction. "We cannot dedicate, we can not consecrate, we can not hallow this ground." So we won't.
Instead they bicker and buck pass. They thwart private efforts, and jostle to claim credit for initiatives that go nowhere. They spend the money on irrelevant wars, and elaborate self-congratulations, and buying off columnists to write how good a job they're doing instead of doing any job at all.
Five years later, Mr. Bush, we are still fighting the terrorists on these streets. And look carefully, sir, on these 16 empty acres. The terrorists are clearly, still winning.
And, in a crime against every victim here and every patriotic sentiment you mouthed but did not enact, you have done nothing about it.
And there is something worse still than this vast gaping hole in this city, and in the fabric of our nation. There is its symbolism of the promise unfulfilled, the urgent oath, reduced to lazy execution.
The only positive on 9/11 and the days and weeks that so slowly and painfully followed it was the unanimous humanity, here, and throughout the country. The government, the President in particular, was given every possible measure of support.
Those who did not belong to his party -- tabled that.
Those who doubted the mechanics of his election -- ignored that.
Those who wondered of his qualifications -- forgot that.
History teaches us that nearly unanimous support of a government cannot be taken away from that government by its critics. It can only be squandered by those who use it not to heal a nation's wounds, but to take political advantage.
Terrorists did not come and steal our newly-regained sense of being American first, and political, fiftieth. Nor did the Democrats. Nor did the media. Nor did the people.
The President -- and those around him -- did that.
They promised bi-partisanship, and then showed that to them, "bi-partisanship" meant that their party would rule and the rest would have to follow, or be branded, with ever-escalating hysteria, as morally or intellectually confused, as appeasers, as those who, in the Vice President's words yesterday, "validate the strategy of the terrorists."
They promised protection, and then showed that to them "protection" meant going to war against a despot whose hand they had once shaken, a despot who we now learn from our own Senate Intelligence Committee, hated al-Qaeda as much as we did.
The polite phrase for how so many of us were duped into supporting a war, on the false premise that it had 'something to do' with 9/11 is "lying by implication."
The impolite phrase is "impeachable offense."
Not once in now five years has this President ever offered to assume responsibility for the failures that led to this empty space, and to this, the current, curdled, version of our beloved country.
Still, there is a last snapping flame from a final candle of respect and fairness: even his most virulent critics have never suggested he alone bears the full brunt of the blame for 9/11.
Half the time, in fact, this President has been so gently treated, that he has seemed not even to be the man most responsible for anything in his own administration.
Yet what is happening this very night?
A mini-series, created, influenced -- possibly financed by -- the most radical and cold of domestic political Machiavellis, continues to be televised into our homes.
The documented truths of the last fifteen years are replaced by bald-faced lies; the talking points of the current regime parroted; the whole sorry story blurred, by spin, to make the party out of office seem vacillating and impotent, and the party in office, seem like the only option.
How dare you, Mr. President, after taking cynical advantage of the unanimity and love, and transmuting it into fraudulent war and needless death, after monstrously transforming it into fear and suspicion and turning that fear into the campaign slogan of three elections? How dare you -- or those around you -- ever "spin" 9/11?
Just as the terrorists have succeeded -- are still succeeding -- as long as there is no memorial and no construction here at Ground Zero.
So, too, have they succeeded, and are still succeeding as long as this government uses 9/11 as a wedge to pit Americans against Americans.
This is an odd point to cite a television program, especially one from March of 1960. But as Disney's continuing sell-out of the truth (and this country) suggests, even television programs can be powerful things.
And long ago, a series called "The Twilight Zone" broadcast a riveting episode entitled "The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street."
In brief: a meteor sparks rumors of an invasion by extra-terrestrials disguised as humans. The electricity goes out. A neighbor pleads for calm. Suddenly his car -- and only his car -- starts. Someone suggests he must be the alien. Then another man's lights go on. As charges and suspicion and panic overtake the street, guns are inevitably produced. An "alien" is shot -- but he turns out to be just another neighbor, returning from going for help. The camera pulls back to a near-by hill, where two extra-terrestrials are seen manipulating a small device that can jam electricity. The veteran tells his novice that there's no need to actually attack, that you just turn off a few of the human machines and then, "they pick the most dangerous enemy they can find, and it's themselves."
And then, in perhaps his finest piece of writing, Rod Serling sums it up with words of remarkable prescience, given where we find ourselves tonight: "The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices, to be found only in the minds of men.
"For the record, prejudices can kill and suspicion can destroy, and a thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all its own -- for the children, and the children yet unborn."
When those who dissent are told time and time again -- as we will be, if not tonight by the President, then tomorrow by his portable public chorus -- that he is preserving our freedom, but that if we use any of it, we are somehow un-American...When we are scolded, that if we merely question, we have "forgotten the lessons of 9/11"... look into this empty space behind me and the bi-partisanship upon which this administration also did not build, and tell me:
Who has left this hole in the ground?
We have not forgotten, Mr. President.
You have.
May this country forgive you.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20060912/cm_thenation/15120539 (http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20060912/cm_thenation/15120539)

ElHombre
09-12-2006, 01:20 PM
video link (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/09/11/keith-olbermanns-special-commnet-on-bush-who-has-left-this-hole-in-the-ground-we-have-not-forgotten-mr-president-you-have-may-this-country-forgive-you/)

2Sheds_Jackson
09-12-2006, 02:37 PM
Childish left wing idiocy, pure and simple.

He starts quickly, condemning Bush for failing to reconstruct the WTC, and build a memorial. That's remarkable for two reasons - first, because it's not the federal government's job to rebuild private entities nor steal their land to construct memorials, and second, because none of those things amount to more than a symbolic band-aid on the real problem.

See, fixing the problem involves doing those unpleasant things that the author's skewed value system will not allow him to even consider. Evidently, he'd rather have our tax dollars spent on giving NYC a nice new skyscraper complex than making sure it doesn't get knocked over a week later.

He tries to make a clunky transition from 9/11 to Iraq - one cannot have a hit piece against Bush without invoking Iraq after all - but nobody paying attention will be snagged on such slipshod fictionalizing of history. If it soothes his conscience to pretend that he was duped, fooled or flim-flammed into spending too much on his new car, well that's a personal decision he makes. The rest of us should either admit that we were too stupid to know what was going on (and keep our mouths shut for fear of advertising our lack of negotiating skills), or just admit that yeah, we wanted that $40k Avalanche.

Humanity has often found that the best way to defeat your enemy is not just to keep rebuilding your fort, but to demolish you enemy's fort. Maybe the author, who speaks so emotionally of the "funeral pyre" of the WTC could devote a bit more thought to who threw the bodies on the pile, rather than worrying about who will rebuild it for the next round of incinerations.

Hunterhr
09-12-2006, 03:55 PM
Five years later there is no building rising to show with proud defiance that we would not have our America wrung from us, by cowards and criminals.

And this is Bush's fault how?

Nothing more than empty ranting as far as I'm concerned.

Silent 6
09-12-2006, 04:05 PM
He should have stayed at ESPN, he was better at doing sports than spouting his political ideology.

A memorial will not stop the terrorists. The President has not forgotten, he's taking care of business. We'll weep later, when the war is over.

pistol
09-12-2006, 04:14 PM
He tries to make a clunky transition from 9/11 to Iraq


Woa..for a second I thought you were talking about W's 9/11 address..Oh well, we can always discuss the "fertile gardens of liberty" later.


Maybe the author, who speaks so emotionally of the "funeral pyre" of the WTC could devote a bit more thought to who threw the bodies on the pile, rather than worrying about who will rebuild it for the next round of incinerations.

Wait, don't tell me...that was Saddam right?

joedirt
09-12-2006, 06:58 PM
haha i love how we call it a war.... there is nothing to win we will never beat these guys they might reduce in numbers and power but they will always be there. there is no berlin to capture this will go on indeffinetly and thats a very sad thing. we supposedly kill dozens of taliban daily recently and yet they keep coming when will they stop. we kill 1000 zarqawi followers in iraq and there is no let up in the violence. and i love the recent BS coming from both republicans and democrats about wanting to crack down on poppy growers in afghanistan like that is going to fix anything its the only way to make good money there for a farmer we destroy there crop who do you think there going to turn to it sure isnt karzai.... what a great war we got...

ViktorNavorski
09-12-2006, 07:03 PM
Keith Olbermann is without a doubt the best news anchor on television todayroflThat is when I realize that this article is not meant to be taken seriously.

Hunterhr
09-12-2006, 09:33 PM
haha i love how we call it a war.... there is nothing to win we will never beat these guys they might reduce in numbers and power but they will always be there. there is no berlin to capture this will go on indeffinetly and thats a very sad thing. we supposedly kill dozens of taliban daily recently and yet they keep coming when will they stop. we kill 1000 zarqawi followers in iraq and there is no let up in the violence. and i love the recent BS coming from both republicans and democrats about wanting to crack down on poppy growers in afghanistan like that is going to fix anything its the only way to make good money there for a farmer we destroy there crop who do you think there going to turn to it sure isnt karzai.... what a great war we got...

Great rant. Original stuff. What does it have to do with Keith Olbermann and a 9/11 Memorial (or lack thereof) or a replacement for the WTC?

joedirt
09-13-2006, 07:31 AM
I got off track and after people calling this a war I just went off. back to being on message;)

2Sheds_Jackson
09-13-2006, 09:28 AM
Wait, don't tell me...that was Saddam right?

Saddam? Hmmm no, I remember Saddam being about the first Gulf War, and a cease-fire that was not being enforced (due to the enforcement agency being on Saddam's payroll), and fears that unaccounted-for WMDs still existed. We still got to shoot people and blow things up and all, but that was for a different reason.

budgie
09-13-2006, 11:35 AM
He tries to make a clunky transition from 9/11 to Iraq but nobody paying attention will be snagged on such slipshod fictionalizing of history.

That's exactly what many people said of Bush's transition from 9/11 to Iraq but they were called 'traitors', 'unpatriotic' or my favorite 'Chiraqis'. Now it's common wisdom that there was no connection between Iraq and al Qaeda. Guess the Earth wasn't flat after all.

pistol
09-13-2006, 02:29 PM
Saddam? Hmmm no, I remember Saddam being about the first Gulf War, and a cease-fire that was not being enforced (due to the enforcement agency being on Saddam's payroll), and fears that unaccounted-for WMDs still existed. We still got to shoot people and blow things up and all, but that was for a different reason.

Why are you validating the strategy of the terrorists? Go back to Iran Chirac Jr.

Eddy
09-13-2006, 02:35 PM
Why are you validating the strategy of the terrorists? Go back to Iran Chirac Jr.

Since when is Chirac(or 2sheds_jackson for that matter) validating the strategy of the terrorists

And what does it have to do with Iran ?