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Dizer
09-14-2006, 10:13 AM
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Black Gangs Terrorize D.C.

By Cliff Kincaid | August 11, 2006

Because the Washington Post wants to obscure the basic reality of the situation, we believe that visitors to the nation's capital should be warned that there is a crime emergency in effect, sparked by a sharp increase in homicides, and they are potential victims.

The fact is that white tourists are being injured and killed by roving black male gangs, who are even showing up in exclusive areas such as Georgetown where some rich reporters live behind iron gates. The Post, however, has a policy of deliberately keeping the public in the dark about the real nature of the problem.

In D.C., it appears, you're not supposed to talk about the racial aspect of the problem. Black police chief Charles H. Ramsey temporarily reassigned a white police commander who warned residents to be aware of suspicious black people in a section of the city where a white man, a British citizen by the name of Alan Sennit, was murdered by having his throat slit by a group of black male thugs. Ramsey considered his comments racially offensive, even though they were true.

The commander, Andy Solberg, had said, "This is not a racial thing to say that black people are unusual in Georgetown." Georgetown is the fancy and affluent area of the city that was described in a July 16 Post headline as "a virtually all-white enclave." While Solberg was reassigned for drawing attention to the potential threat posed by groups of black males wandering through white areas of the city and killing people, Courtland Milloy of the Post in a July 12 column quoted Ramsey himself as saying that "Young black males, in groups of five to six, ages 13 to 15, are displaying handguns and beating their victims."

When the black police chief says this kind of thing to a Post columnist, that's apparently acceptable and newsworthy. But when a white police commander makes the same kind of statement at a community meeting, in order to warn the public at large and provide information that might help save their lives, that's a punishable offense.

Solberg was reassigned for simply pointing out the basic truth that groups of black males wandering around Georgetown were a potential threat. Solberg identified the perpetrators of the brutal murder of Alan Sennit as black. The attackers, two of whom had criminal records, including drug offenses, also tried to rape Sennit's female companion.

In an on-line discussion sponsored by the Post, one person said, "I'm a black male adult, and the statement that Solberg made to the audience might have been a politically incorrect statement to make, but I have to agree with what he said. It may be profiling, but the man is 100 percent correct in my opinion about the guys walking around in that section of Georgetown at 2:30 in the morning. They have a right to be there, but if I saw them, I would be on alert."

Over at the Post, whose chairman Donald Graham is a former D.C. police officer, ombudsman Deborah Howell defended the paper's policy of not reporting the racial characteristics of alleged criminals. While the Post did publish a photo of the alleged killers in the Sennit murder, she wrote, "The curiosity of readers about race is understandable, but, practically, what help is it to know that a suspect was black or mixed-race or a whiter shade of pale if there aren't enough details to be able to identify a suspect and call the police? Or if it's not pertinent to the crime. Will knowing the color of a person's skin make you feel any safer?"

Post policy, she noted, is that "race and ethnic background…should be used in crime stories when we have enough specific identifying information to publish a police description of a suspect who is being sought."
In other words, the fact that alleged criminals are black is not sufficient to warrant publication. Rather than let the readers decide what is important, the Post makes that decision for them, withholding information because it might stigmatize a certain minority group.

Howell is not a true "reader advocate." She is an apologist for a politically correct policy at the paper that could cost lives. Maybe she'll change her mind when she's mugged......................

Dronetek
09-14-2006, 10:31 AM
Imagine if this were white gangs killing black people. I doubt you would have to go to "aim.org" to find a story about it.

John Crighton
09-14-2006, 11:22 AM
This is hardly surprising since I don't think I ever saw a single "white" person outside of the tourist areas. By default there would have to be "Black" gangs.

I would not doubt is there were Hispanic gangs there as well to rival them.

Rampant crime in D.C., go there once, you will understand in under 5 minutes.

I'mOnlyHalfPolish
09-14-2006, 11:27 AM
yes outside of the Capitol area its a giants ghetto

F-14D
09-14-2006, 11:30 AM
Funny i live in PG County, MD (right across the border) and i fill perfectly safe in D.C.

Luno
09-14-2006, 11:31 AM
Dizer
a friendly advice if you post an article please post the source

John Crighton
09-14-2006, 11:33 AM
The source it at the top left of his post.

Secret Squirrel
09-14-2006, 11:47 AM
Funny i live in PG County, MD (right across the border) and i fill perfectly safe in D.C.

you only feel that way because you've been brainwashed by the evil liberal media.:D

Luno
09-14-2006, 11:57 AM
The source it at the top left of his post.


Lol I am so used to find the link under the article not above it :cantbeli: , sorry about that my fault

Hunterhr
09-14-2006, 12:25 PM
In other news, the sky is reported to be a shade of blue.

Will938
09-14-2006, 12:32 PM
you only feel that way because you've been brainwashed by the evil liberal media.:D

Might feel safe but that doesn't change the fact that the murder rate in DC is like 25 TIMES higher than anywhere else in the US.

annihilation
09-14-2006, 01:08 PM
I never understood DC. Thats the capital of the USA, how the hell would they allow ghettos. I would be running them all out of town and leveling those areas into parks. We have enough crookss incongress , we dont need more on the streets of the capital.

Cedan
09-14-2006, 01:22 PM
I never understood DC. Thats the capital of the USA, how the hell would they allow ghettos. I would be running them all out of town and leveling those areas into parks. We have enough crookss incongress , we dont need more on the streets of the capital.

youre quite the mugabe arent you?

Createdeemcee
09-14-2006, 01:23 PM
I am a graduate of Howard University so I lived in the hood so to speak. The worst that I have seen was the pentagon burning from my roof top on that dreadful day. but I can recall one evening me walking home from the library with a group of kids that looked no older than thirteen. They were about 100 feet or so behind me. Thank god I only lived a block and a half away. I remember hearing them debating on how to load a gun and hearing a steel slide moove to and fro. Was very scary. But other than that the only area of concearn is southeast D.C. Mainly Berry Farms, which is a well known High Crime project housing area where murders occur daily. All other areas are fairly safe. Georgetown, Adams Morgan. etc.

I think the best reason for this occurance is the lack law abiding citizens being able to carry, same as here in MD. Yet goto Va where everyone is packing just accross the potomac, and crime is all but existing. DC and MD should follow the trail of Florida, where crime is taking a nose dive because of recent gun law changes.

annihilation
09-14-2006, 01:58 PM
youre quite the mugabe arent you?

I never said I was nice nor do I have to be :)

joedirt
09-14-2006, 02:16 PM
its a right wing media watchdog site.... tsk tsk

John Crighton
09-14-2006, 02:38 PM
its a right wing media watchdog site.... tsk tsk

In this case that does not mean they are wrong.

Kind of hard not to be when the city is about 80% black and gang violence is ledgendary. On the same token, this is hardly new news.

Geezah
09-14-2006, 02:45 PM
you only feel that way because you've been brainwashed by the evil liberal media.:D

And to think this guy was/is a Lib.

"If you take out the killings, Washington actually has a very very low crime rate." -- M. Barry, Mayor of Washington, DC

I guess it's not that bad is it........

EsoognomEhT
09-14-2006, 02:48 PM
I stayed in the Embassy Suites that was pretty much in Georgetown, and I didn't get murdered by a black gang. I nearly got ran over with your stupid crossing system though

WarriorMonk
09-14-2006, 03:08 PM
probably a reason why DC outlaws gun ownership is because the yobbo at 1600 Pennsylvania lives there for now...and killing the president (I DO know some here wish to do so) is a crime punishable by death (or exile for the anti-death penalty nuts if they want it that way), even if they suceed, a prez is dead still if they succeed - so to the Secret Service I guess no guns in DC is a good thing, even if it screws over law-abiding gun owners...?

Maybe not.

Will938
09-14-2006, 03:20 PM
probably a reason why DC outlaws gun ownership is because the yobbo at 1600 Pennsylvania lives there for now...and killing the president (I DO know some here wish to do so) is a crime punishable by death (or exile for the anti-death penalty nuts if they want it that way), even if they suceed, a prez is dead still if they succeed - so to the Secret Service I guess no guns in DC is a good thing, even if it screws over law-abiding gun owners...?

Maybe not.

Dunno what you're getting at, but they've been outlawed before Bush was in office.

Either way, didn't stop that nut from opening up with an AK47 did it.

F-14D
09-14-2006, 03:44 PM
I stayed in the Embassy Suites that was pretty much in Georgetown, and I didn't get murdered by a black gang. I nearly got ran over with your stupid crossing system though

Now thats whats you really have to worry about in downtown D.C. getting run over by cabs and metro buses who seem to think that they have right of way over everyone else.

F-14D
09-14-2006, 03:46 PM
Dunno what you're getting at, but they've been outlawed before Bush was in office.

Either way, didn't stop that nut from opening up with an AK47 did it.

And who opened up with a AK in DC

SBL
09-14-2006, 03:58 PM
There's always been a certain amount of gang-violence in DC, and it's true there has been a recent spike in violent crimes but I don' t think things are quite as bad as this article suggests. I haven't seen too many roving gangs preying on white people. I live in Northern Virginia and I think I have been to DC enough times to have an opinion.
I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I'm not all that sure it happens that often. At any rate, I'd rather be in DC than in Baltimore any day.

seawolf688
09-14-2006, 04:35 PM
reason it's so bad is they have a handgun ban up there which deprives good citizens of their 2nd amendment right to defend themselves.

i'm glad i'm in virginia where anyone thats 21 and not a felon can carry open without a permit. give the guns back to the law abiding citizens, they'll take back the streets. or at least have a fighting chance.

Hunterhr
09-14-2006, 06:19 PM
And who opened up with a AK in DC

I believe he's referring to the guy who opened up on the White House fence while Clinton was in office.

Mr.K
09-14-2006, 07:38 PM
you only feel that way because you've been brainwashed by the evil liberal media.:D
Maybe it's because he can "be down" and "chunk up tha deuce" at the right moment :)

F-14D
09-14-2006, 08:19 PM
Maybe it's because he can "be down" and "chunk up tha deuce" at the right moment :)


Hahaha, thats it

mattnwnc03
09-15-2006, 12:21 AM
the u.s. is sending delta force, rangers and 160th soar to the region, .............. oh thats somalia, oooppss

a_very_ex_STAB
09-15-2006, 07:55 AM
Just a thought but maybe the current global Keystone Cops should take some baby steps first and secure their own capital city before trying to tell the rest of the world what to do all the time :roll:

joedirt
09-15-2006, 08:12 AM
reason it's so bad is they have a handgun ban up there which deprives good citizens of their 2nd amendment right to defend themselves.

i'm glad i'm in virginia where anyone thats 21 and not a felon can carry open without a permit. give the guns back to the law abiding citizens, they'll take back the streets. or at least have a fighting chance.

take back the streets sure...... boost the overall economic value and quality of life will do more to lower crime in poor neighborhoods then putting the fear of getting shot will ever do.

WARPIG
09-15-2006, 09:11 AM
Just a thought but maybe the current global Keystone Cops should take some baby steps first and secure their own capital city before trying to tell the rest of the world what to do all the time :roll:

Great thought. We could just act like the rest of the world doesn't exist. Because our crime rate is what justifies whether we have the right to participate in the world, right?. If that is the case... then the UK should probably focus on some house cleaning as well being they rank around 3rd in the world as far as crime rates go.

a_very_ex_STAB
09-15-2006, 09:32 AM
Great thought. We could just act like the rest of the world doesn't exist. Because our crime rate is what justifies whether we have the right to participate in the world, right?. If that is the case... then the UK should probably focus on some house cleaning as well being they rank around 3rd in the world as far as crime rates go.

That depends on what you classify as crime. The current British Government is bringing in new laws and therefore more new crimes all the time because they are Orwellian control freaks. That means of course that more people fall foul of the law by doing things that were not previously illegal. It doesn't actually mean that the country is in anarchy.

Geezah
09-15-2006, 09:38 AM
That depends on what you classify as crime. The current British Government is bringing in new laws and therefore more new crimes all the time because they are Orwellian control freaks. That means of course that more people fall foul of the law by doing things that were not previously illegal. It doesn't actually mean that the country is in anarchy.

Crime is just that, crime.

Gun crime claims 30 victims every day (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/01/10/ngun10.xml)

Rise in muggings embarrasses Reid (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/07/20/nreid20.xml)

The crime rate was far from low 25 years ago(click on the link) (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/08/22/nblair122.xml)

Violence rules: not OK (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/02/03/npol203.xml)

a_very_ex_STAB
09-15-2006, 10:28 AM
Crime is just that, crime.

Gun crime claims 30 victims every day (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/01/10/ngun10.xml)

Rise in muggings embarrasses Reid (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/07/20/nreid20.xml)

The crime rate was far from low 25 years ago(click on the link) (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/08/22/nblair122.xml)

Violence rules: not OK (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/02/03/npol203.xml)

LOL a lot of those included in the supposed 30 gun crime victims per day involved injuries with air weapons. Whereas in the States they'd have been killed by automatic weapons most likely. :roll:

sferrin
09-15-2006, 10:29 AM
Just a thought but maybe the current global Keystone Cops should take some baby steps first and secure their own capital city before trying to tell the rest of the world what to do all the time :roll:


Yeah like in Paris where the turbans burn cars in the streets :roll:

Createdeemcee
09-15-2006, 10:35 AM
And who opened up with a AK in DC

If Someone wants to make a hail of bullets they will anyway, guns are cheap on the streets, So why not give them (law abiders) carrying permits to brush off attacks. Secret Service will keep the white house safe at anyrate.

CG51
09-15-2006, 10:39 AM
I am a graduate of Howard University so I lived in the hood so to speak. The worst that I have seen was the pentagon burning from my roof top on that dreadful day. but I can recall one evening me walking home from the library with a group of kids that looked no older than thirteen. They were about 100 feet or so behind me. Thank god I only lived a block and a half away. I remember hearing them debating on how to load a gun and hearing a steel slide moove to and fro. Was very scary. But other than that the only area of concearn is southeast D.C. Mainly Berry Farms, which is a well known High Crime project housing area where murders occur daily. All other areas are fairly safe. Georgetown, Adams Morgan. etc.

I think the best reason for this occurance is the lack law abiding citizens being able to carry, same as here in MD. Yet goto Va where everyone is packing just accross the potomac, and crime is all but existing. DC and MD should follow the trail of Florida, where crime is taking a nose dive because of recent gun law changes.


Gotta love Florida. For a few days back in '87 (I think) you could wear a handgun exposed just like the old west. :lol:

Geezah
09-15-2006, 10:45 AM
LOL a lot of those included in the supposed 30 gun crime victims per day involved injuries with air weapons. Whereas in the States they'd have been killed by automatic weapons most likely. :roll:

Try to stay on subject as hard as it may be.


Handguns were outlawed by the Government in the year after the Dunblane massacre in 1996, but the number of crimes involving handguns has more than doubled since the ban, from 2,636 in 1997-1998 to 5,871 last year.

Injuries inflicted by handguns also more than doubled, from 317 in 1997/1998 to 648 last year.

The increased use of handguns bears out criticism that the ban took weapons out of the hands of law-abiding shooting club members rather than criminals and had no impact on gun crime.

The number of firearms homicides has more than doubled since 1998-1999, while non-firearms killings rose by only 21 per cent.

The total number of gun killings in 2001-2002 was 97, an increase of 32 per cent - or 23 deaths - on the previous year. The vast majority of cases involved young men in inner city areas.

In 1977 there were 413 homicides, of which only 28 were gun-related. Last year, the 97 compared to 832 homicides overall last year, a significant increase in the proportion of killings caused by firearms.

Firearms were increasingly used in robberies, including muggings, last year. Firearms robberies leapt by a third between 2001 and 2002 and accounted for more than half of all firearms offences.

Gun violence was heavily concentrated in a small number of big city police forces, particularly the Metropolitan, Greater Manchester and West Midlands areas.

Taken from this link,Gun crime claims 30 victims every day (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/01/10/ngun10.xml)

As much as you would like to deny it firearms are a problem in the UK.

WARPIG
09-15-2006, 10:53 AM
LOL a lot of those included in the supposed 30 gun crime victims per day involved injuries with air weapons. Whereas in the States they'd have been killed by automatic weapons most likely. :roll:


Ah.. another astute and knowleagable observation. I have to admit.. we yanks love to shoot at each other with automatic weapons. Where Brits on the other hand are only shooting each other or robbing stores with replicas. So, of course, that gives the UK more credibility on the International Stage.

Thanks for proving my point. Crime rate is relative and has nothing to do with any countries ability to be involved on an international level.

vrb
09-15-2006, 11:17 AM
Yeah like in Paris where the turbans burn cars in the streets :roll:


I've never seen any sikhs burning cars in Paris. Your ignorance is breath taking.

WARPIG
09-15-2006, 11:20 AM
Yeah like in Paris where the turbans burn cars in the streets :roll:


Hope that was sarcasm.. for your sake.

szr
09-15-2006, 11:26 AM
Funny, every time I've ever been to DC, the sky was infact fully intact and NOT falling.

sferrin
09-15-2006, 12:30 PM
Hope that was sarcasm.. for your sake.


Why, is everybody suppose to pretend a bunch of muslim nutcases weren't out of control in Paris for what was it a week or two?

WARPIG
09-15-2006, 12:48 PM
Why, is everybody suppose to pretend a bunch of muslim nutcases weren't out of control in Paris for what was it a week or two?

You should try and pretend that you know the rules of the forum and refrain from the racial slurrs.

Hunterhr
09-15-2006, 03:16 PM
LOL a lot of those included in the supposed 30 gun crime victims per day involved injuries with air weapons. Whereas in the States they'd have been killed by automatic weapons most likely. :roll:

Not so much.