Video from French-Guyane about the instruction with the FFL

[Ralf174978]

Streaming-Video from German TV about the instruction in French-Guyane with the 3rd Infantery Regiment of the French Foreign Legion:

http://wstreaming.zdf.de/300/040401_legion_ajo.asx

[volfram]

Officer in 03.54 min.This is third film i saw him.First it was polish documentary about 2emREP few yers ago and second time when he was passing jungle course in Brasil.

[Ralf174978]

Did you mean Adjudant-Chef Lopez? He's from Spain and many years in the FFL.

[volfram]

Yup,thats him.Althought i did not remember his name i recall he was from Spain.

[Ralf174978]

Hi Volfram,

I have two questions about the candidates from Poland who want to join the FFL. It is against the polish law if a polish guy become a legionnaire? And what will happen if he come home after his service in the legion?

Regards

Ralf

[Herrmannek]

He ussualy is questioned by police but not arrested, then case goes to court where ussualy legionaires got low sentences in suspension...

[volfram]

Yes this is against our law to serve in foreign military and all i can say is f***k this law.Funiest thing is that police have no chance to proof anything unless they find foreign military papers in person who is not carefull enought.

[Herrmannek]

Yes this is against our law to serve in foreign military and all i can say is f***k this law.Funiest thing is that police have no chance to proof anything unless they find foreign military papers in person who is not carefull enought.

Or he admits that on his own, or is deserter(I read article about such guy but don't remeber exact details, he ran from guyana)

[Marmot1]

Hi Volfram,

I have two questions about the candidates from Poland who want to join the FFL. It is against the polish law if a polish guy become a legionnaire? And what will happen if he come home after his service in the legion?

Regards

Ralf

Basicaly up to 5 years.

What is not known by many there is legal way to join Legion, First you mast serve in polish army 12 months but they are going to reduce to 9 then you can ask for Ministry if Internal affair permision if you prove that you cannot stay in polish army which is not dificult since our army is half conscript and there are not many avalible positions...

Most of guys who were sentenced in poland were sentenced mainly becouse they avoided obligaory service in polish army and usualy they were sentenced not for serving in FFL but for not serving in polish army...

As for me I think that it is better to do service in polish army first of you think about joining FFL since you would get some experience and physical tougchnes and also you use to discipline.

BTW Anyone here is serving or served in FFL?

[Ralf174978]

@Marmot1, Herrmannek, Volfram

Thanks for your detailed answers. ;)

The consequences for Polish men are similar to the laws in Switzerland. For Swiss it's punishable to join the FFL or to serve in another foreign army. Only the service in the famous Swiss Guard of the Pope in the Vatican is expressivly reserve to Swiss citizen.

In Germany it's not criminal to join the French Foreign Legion. But when you leave the Legion after fulfillment your contract and return to Germany then the Legion gives a note about your duty to the German authorities. This means in the event of a police check (e.g. during a vehicle spotcheck) that the police officier will see a note in the police computer that you have served in the Legion. :roll: Maybe some police(wo)man get nervous - but that's funny when you are looking suddenly in the barrel of the machine-gun or pistol. rofl

The only thing which is criminal in Germany is the recruitment for a foreign miltary service (e.g. the FFL).

If a Polish legionnaire deserts from the FFL and return to Poland then he will criminal prosecute by the Polish authorities and has to expect a prison sentence for desertation. The FFL reports all deserters to the authorities of their home countries.

[Ralf174978]

Another video from German TV about the 3rd Infantery Regiment in French-Guyane:

http://www.kabel1.de/php-bin/scripts/cvideo/cvideo.php?Die+Fremdenlegion,,1,,333,,redirect.streaming.szm.de/redirect/redirect.php?type=vod&codec=real&stream=K1/leben/al091102/fremdenlegion.rm,,NULL,,1,,1

If the link above doesn't work please go on this page http://www.kabel1.de/info/al/themen_a-z/?7467 and click on the link Video: Die Fremdenlegion. For playing you need the RealOne Player.

[volfram]

@Marmot1, Herrmannek, Volfram

Thanks for your detailed answers. ;)

The consequences for Polish men are similar to the laws in Switzerland. For Swiss it's punishable to join the FFL or to serve in another foreign army. Only the service in the famous Swiss Guard of the Pope in the Vatican is expressivly reserve to Swiss citizen.

In Germany it's not criminal to join the French Foreign Legion. But when you leave the Legion after fulfillment your contract and return to Germany then the Legion gives a note about your duty to the German authorities. This means in the event of a police check (e.g. during a vehicle spotcheck) that the police officier will see a note in the police computer that you have served in the Legion. :roll: Maybe some police(wo)man get nervous - but that's funny when you are looking suddenly in the barrel of the machine-gun or pistol. rofl

The only thing which is criminal in Germany is the recruitment for a foreign miltary service (e.g. the FFL).

If a Polish legionnaire deserts from the FFL and return to Poland then he will criminal prosecute by the Polish authorities and has to expect a prison sentence for desertation. The FFL reports all deserters to the authorities of their home countries.
I must say i am a bit suprised.Legion was known as a hermetic organisation when all things are keeping inside/accept crimes/.As it comes to polish legionnaires before joining they name is change.Even if someone desert no information is given to our authorities.I am almost sure of that because i know man who desert an no harm happend to him when he return to country.

[Ralf174978]

Hi Volfram,

it's correct when you write that the legion is a hermetic organisation. But this doesn't apply to deserters. I don't know when the man you know was deserting from the legion and went back to Poland. But the times are changing - also in the FFL. I have a good friend who serves since more than 15 years in the FFL. Actually he works in Aubagne in the "Gestapo" (the security detachment) and he told me last summer during a visit that today the FFL will be send a report to the polish authorities about deserters from your country. And the new name, who was given to the legionnaire, is only a protection during his service.

Regards

Ralf

[volfram]

Ralf
Thanks for information,yes my information may be little outdated,Personnaly i dont care about this because i think deserters schould be punisched.By the way it is good to know someone in gestapo especialy for those who want to join.
Regards

[rafaelcb]

Did you mean Adjudant-Chef Lopez? He's from Spain and many years in the FFL.

What's the story behind this man ending up as bastard-in-charge for the Legion Etrangere?

I can only partially understand some of the explanation in German. The commentator says something about 'Franco's Regime' and 'Racismus' , but Lopez is far too young to have served in Franco's times.

Thnaks!

[Ralf174978]

Hi rafaelcb,

here is the original comment in German spoken by the commentator. It starts at 2:40 and ends at 2:55.


Mit der Pirogue geht es tiefer in den Dschungel. Lopez ist Spanier. Als Diktator Franco am Ende war, verließ er die Spanische Armee und ging zur Legion. Viele Legionäre sind politisch rechtsaußen - Rassismus aber hat keinen Platz in dieser internationalen Truppe.

And that is the correct translation in English:


With the dug-out it goes more deeply into the jungle. Lopez is Spaniard. When dictator Franco was at the end, he left the Spanish Army and went to the Legion. Many legionnaires are politically right outside - racism however doesn't have a place in this international troop.

Well, the end of the regime of dictator General Francisco Franco was in the middle of the 70s. He died on 20.11.1975. If Adjudant-Chef (Chief Warrant Officer 3/4) Lopez served thus for the time in the Spanish Army and then went to the French Foreign Legion, then he might be approx. 30 years a legionnaire. But this bastard-in-charge kept himself still good, or? :lol: Anyhow he already earned himself his pension, because the pension after 30 years service in the FFL is not bad. ;)

Regards

Ralf