EU 'covered up' attacks on Jews by young Muslims

[2Sheds_Jackson]

From the Daily Telegraph (my emphasis in bold)


Jewish leaders accused the European Union yesterday of covering up the true scale of anti-Semitic violence carried out by Muslim youths, reigniting a controversy over Europe's failure to confront Islamic extremism at home.

A study released by the EU's racism and xenophobia monitoring centre astounded experts by concluding that the wave of anti-Jewish persecution over the last two years stemmed from neo-Nazi or other racist groups.

"The largest group of the perpetrators of anti-Semitic activities appears to be young, disaffected white Europeans," said a summary released to the European Parliament . "A further source of anti-Semitism in some countries was young Muslims of North African or Asian extraction.

"Traditionally, anti-Semitic groups on the extreme Right played a part in stirring opinion," it added.

The headline findings contradict the body of the report. This says most of the 193 violent attacks on synagogues, Jewish schools, kosher shops, cemeteries and rabbis in France in 2002 - up from 32 in 2001 - were "ascribed to youth from neighbourhoods sensitive to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, principally of North African descent.

"The percentage attributable to the extreme Right was only nine per cent in 2002," it said.

The report on Belgium said most of the fire-bomb and machine-gun attacks on Jewish targets were the result of a spillover from the Palestinian intifada.

The European Jewish Congress accused the EU watchdog of twisting data from the 15 member states to suit its own ideological bias, describing the report as a catalogue of "enormous contradictions, errors and omissions."

"We cannot let it be said that the majority of anti-Semitic incidents come from young, disaffected white men. This is in complete contradiction with the facts recorded by the police," it said.

The EU suppressed a report last year by German academics concluding that Arab gangs were largely responsible for a sudden surge in the anti-Jewish violence, allegedly because the findings were politically unpalatable.

Victor Weitzel, who wrote a large section of yesterday's far more detailed study, told The Telegraph that the latest findings had been consistently massaged by the EU watchdog to play down the role of North African youth. "The European Union seems incapable of facing up to the truth on this," he said. "Everything is being tilted to ensure nice soft conclusions.

"When I told them that we need to monitor the inflammatory language being used by the Arab press in Europe, this was changed to the 'minority press'.

"Honestly, it's incredible," he said.

Mr Weitzel's 48-page section - compiled with a Polish academic, Magadalena Sroda - is the fruit of months of interviews with Jewish leaders across Europe. While far-Right and traditional "Christian" forms of anti-Semitism still exist, the report homes in on a new form of "anti-Zionist Left" prejudice.

This demonises Israel and subtly leaks into prejudice against all Jews. The study describes Belgium as a country where anti-Semitism has become almost fashionable among the Left-leaning intelligentsia.

But most of the report focuses on Jew-baiting by Muslim youths. It paints an alarming picture of daily life for France's 600,000 Jews, the EU's biggest community.

In schools, Jewish children are beaten with impunity, and teachers dare not talk about the Holocaust for fear of provoking Muslim pupils, it said.

Britain, which saw a 75 per cent rise in incidents last year, was gently rebuked for hesitating to take "politically awkward" measures against Islamic radicals.

"The government is very anxious not to upset the Muslim community," the report said.

Gosh no, don't upset anybody.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/04/01/wsemit01.xml&sSheet=/portal/2004/04/01/ixportal.html&secureRefresh=true&_requestid=77078

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here we go again

If anyone were to post anything from the Guardian, people would say it's unreliable biased (to the left) information. But the right wing equivalent the Daily Telegraph is ok? I don't think so.

The telegraph is anti-EU and anti-islam, if you post this then the likes of HELEX and mustamato can post all the anti-american tripe they want

[UkrainianAmerican]

Euros- PUSSIES

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Euros- PUSSIES

child

[UkrainianAmerican]

Euros- PUSSIES

child
pussy

[Seoulstriker]

here we go again

If anyone were to post anything from the Guardian, people would say it's unreliable biased (to the left) information. But the right wing equivalent the Daily Telegraph is ok? I don't think so.


cut, i don't need a right-wing newspaper to tell me that Islam seeks the total destruction (the heads cut off) of unbelievers. :|

[cut]

here we go again

If anyone were to post anything from the Guardian, people would say it's unreliable biased (to the left) information. But the right wing equivalent the Daily Telegraph is ok? I don't think so.


cut, i don't need a right-wing newspaper to tell me that Islam seeks the total destruction (the heads cut off) of unbelievers. :|

oh please don't tell me you truly believe that..

[wholagun]

Euros- PUSSIES

your such a dumb ass :cantbeli:

http://www.TheForumz.com/images/icon_page/025.gif

[UkrainianAmerican]

here we go again

If anyone were to post anything from the Guardian, people would say it's unreliable biased (to the left) information. But the right wing equivalent the Daily Telegraph is ok? I don't think so.


cut, i don't need a right-wing newspaper to tell me that Islam seeks the total destruction (the heads cut off) of unbelievers. :|

oh please don't tell me you truly believe that..
read the Koran smart?-ass.

[UkrainianAmerican]

Euros- PUSSIES

your such a dumb ass :cantbeli:

http://www.TheForumz.com/images/icon_page/025.gif
You are such a pussy.

[Imshi-Yallah]

Euros- PUSSIES

child
pussy
Wow aren't you brave, you have to be considered worthy of contempt before your insults will actually be effective

[Seoulstriker]

here we go again

If anyone were to post anything from the Guardian, people would say it's unreliable biased (to the left) information. But the right wing equivalent the Daily Telegraph is ok? I don't think so.


cut, i don't need a right-wing newspaper to tell me that Islam seeks the total destruction (the heads cut off) of unbelievers. :|

oh please don't tell me you truly believe that..

That's what the Quran orders Muslims to do. :| (the whole concept of Jihad)

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here we go again

If anyone were to post anything from the Guardian, people would say it's unreliable biased (to the left) information. But the right wing equivalent the Daily Telegraph is ok? I don't think so.


cut, i don't need a right-wing newspaper to tell me that Islam seeks the total destruction (the heads cut off) of unbelievers. :|

oh please don't tell me you truly believe that..
read the Koran smart?-ass.

read the bible? child

[UkrainianAmerican]

Euros- PUSSIES

child
pussy
Wow aren't you brave, you have to be considered worthy of contempt before your insults will actually be effective
You got sand in your ******?

[UkrainianAmerican]

here we go again

If anyone were to post anything from the Guardian, people would say it's unreliable biased (to the left) information. But the right wing equivalent the Daily Telegraph is ok? I don't think so.


cut, i don't need a right-wing newspaper to tell me that Islam seeks the total destruction (the heads cut off) of unbelievers. :|

oh please don't tell me you truly believe that..
read the Koran smart?-ass.

read the bible? child
Yes, poosee, i have. Its too pacifist for my tastes, but its ok...

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here we go again

If anyone were to post anything from the Guardian, people would say it's unreliable biased (to the left) information. But the right wing equivalent the Daily Telegraph is ok? I don't think so.


cut, i don't need a right-wing newspaper to tell me that Islam seeks the total destruction (the heads cut off) of unbelievers. :|

oh please don't tell me you truly believe that..

That's what the Quran orders Muslims to do. :| (the whole concept of Jihad)

So are you telling a friend of mine who is muslim is secretly plotting behind my back to cut my head off? grow up

[Imshi-Yallah]

Yawn, end of response

[2Sheds_Jackson]

Hey, the story's source may be to the right & it's reasonable to view it with a grain of salt. But are the facts as stated not correct? They've previously been reported elsewhere.

The Telegraph didn’t create the report. It was created by the EU's racism and xenophobia monitoring centre. I remember when the report was sent back for retooling because it was unpalatable. Now we have this highly polished turd released - and it's a joke. It contradicts itself.

The revision process says more about the state of the EU's politics than the report itself does. We have the same thing in the states of course - political correctness knows no boundaries.

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Why do you insist on posting this kind of inflammatory article? There enough problems with flamming on the board as it is. Some of it you can't escape from because it's a military themed forum, but this has no reason to be posted here. Especially because it's the telegraph aka the jerusalem post, ever wondered why you never come across a long article about the racist police in manchester? It's because that racism is fine to them, it's against pakistanis.

[Adri]

it isn't 1. april today......

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the telegraph is a joke all year round

[UkrainianAmerican]

the telegraph is a joke all year round
Better then the ****

[Chris1]

here we go again

If anyone were to post anything from the Guardian, people would say it's unreliable biased (to the left) information. But the right wing equivalent the Daily Telegraph is ok? I don't think so.


cut, i don't need a right-wing newspaper to tell me that Islam seeks the total destruction (the heads cut off) of unbelievers. :|



here we go again

If anyone were to post anything from the Guardian, people would say it's unreliable biased (to the left) information. But the right wing equivalent the Daily Telegraph is ok? I don't think so.


cut, i don't need a right-wing newspaper to tell me that Islam seeks the total destruction (the heads cut off) of unbelievers. :|

oh please don't tell me you truly believe that..

That's what the Quran orders Muslims to do. :| (the whole concept of Jihad)

Bull****.
The Disbelievers
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.

[109.1] Say: O unbelievers!
[109.2] I do not serve that which you serve,
[109.3] Nor do you serve Him Whom I serve:
[109.4] Nor am I going to serve that which you serve,
[109.5] Nor are you going to serve Him Whom I serve:
[109.6] You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion

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the telegraph is a joke all year round
Better then the ****

??

[UkrainianAmerican]

Well at least Im not the only one who thinks that RussianAmerican is a complete asshole :lol:
Go back to lebanon, and suck nasrallah.

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Well at least Im not the only one who thinks that RussianAmerican is a complete asshole :lol:
Go back to lebanon, and suck nasrallah.

didn't the protocol come from russia?

[UkrainianAmerican]

Well at least Im not the only one who thinks that RussianAmerican is a complete asshole :lol:
Go back to lebanon, and suck nasrallah.

didn't the protocol come from russia?
Damn I am pissing off a lotta ppl here, inadverntly. I guess I shouldnt smoke and flame from now on.
(my apologies)

[Haiw]

Bull****.
The Disbelievers
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.

[109.1] Say: O unbelievers!
[109.2] I do not serve that which you serve,
[109.3] Nor do you serve Him Whom I serve:
[109.4] Nor am I going to serve that which you serve,
[109.5] Nor are you going to serve Him Whom I serve:
[109.6] You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion
Is that directly from the Koran?

[Chris1]

No, the Koran is in Arabic
Arabic is a difficult language to learn and translate into English, this is one of many possible English meanings of the words, however there is not that much difference in the meaning to translate "you have your religion I have mine" to "Get the axe Habib, we got a Christian"
I should add this is not my translation, as I don't know that much Arabic (been trying to learn it for a very short while :) )

[Haiw]

Ah yeah, I know what you mean. (And I knew that it was a translation of course, I was just wondering about the original source. :))

Thanks for info.

[Chris1]

http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/browse.html
109
http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/toc/modeng/public/HolKora.html

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/109.qmt.html
(good as it has several different translations)

[2Sheds_Jackson]

Bull****.
The Disbelievers
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.

[109.1] Say: O unbelievers!
[109.2] I do not serve that which you serve,
[109.3] Nor do you serve Him Whom I serve:
[109.4] Nor am I going to serve that which you serve,
[109.5] Nor are you going to serve Him Whom I serve:
[109.6] You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion

According to scholars, this passage gives Allah's opinion/direction regarding workplace religious discrimination for all people working in the food service industry. It covers religous tolerance & table assignments. See 202.2 for acceptable gratuity calculations.

Hey listen - I posted this thread not to start a flame war, but to illustrate the state of mind in places of power in the EU. They'd rather publish a worthless document than speak the truth and maybe rub some people the wrong way. Of course, it could be that they don't want to be next stop on the Jihad '04 tour.

Again, the Telegraph is not the source of the information. The EU report is the source of the information.

Are you saying that the Telegraph has fabricated the text of the source document? Seems more likely that theyr'e pointing out facts that some don't like.

[SeanAshi]

<----Dirty Kufar :D

[sethen]

Who cares about the Israelis? Not me!!!!!!!! CRIMINALS!!!!!!

[UoUo]

Who cares about the Israelis? Not me!!!!!!!! CRIMINALS!!!!!!

:roll:

[SeanAshi]

Who cares about the Israelis? Not me!!!!!!!! CRIMINALS!!!!!!Sethen Lech zayen et ima schelcha

[UoUo]

Who cares about the Israelis? Not me!!!!!!!! CRIMINALS!!!!!!Sethen Lech zayen et ima schelcha


:lol:

How do you know to "speak" hebrew?

[Seoulstriker]

So are you telling a friend of mine who is muslim is secretly plotting behind my back to cut my head off? grow up


Is he following the steps of Jihad correctly?

[UkrainianAmerican]

Who cares about the Israelis? Not me!!!!!!!! CRIMINALS!!!!!!
AHHHHHHHh, yet another victim of "dont drink and post, smoke and flame" syndrome.
We should get over the habit.

[gilgoul]

Who cares about the Israelis? Not me!!!!!!!! CRIMINALS!!!!!!


rofl

[sethen]

ehyeh asher ehyeh!

[SeanAshi]

How do you know to "speak" hebrew?When I was growing up my mom and dad forced me to learn hebrew since they grew up jewish, my hebrew is rusty and needs work.

[EvanL]

How do you know to "speak" hebrew?When I was growing up my mom and dad forced me to learn hebrew since they grew up jewish, my hebrew is rusty and needs work.
zayin al hakuss hamasrihach shel haima hamechoeret shelcha .

[Ichhabe]

So are you telling a friend of mine who is muslim is secretly plotting behind my back to cut my head off? grow up


Is he following the steps of Jihad correctly?

That you study medicine scares the fooking living daylight out of me. :bash:

[Beowulf]

Euros- PUSSIES


I just posted this today:


okay GWB has been banned.

I will say it again: Of course racist comments will not be tolerated. Neither will broad unfounded negative generalizations about a country, her citizens, or leadership.

Just b/c you disagree with someone politically does not mean they are stupid/ignorant. If you feel strongly about something then do the research and bring some facts and intelligent discussion to this message board.

"hehe your president looks like a monkey", or "y'all are all bunch of commies" does not qualify and will not be tolerated. I'm really tired of these people and their pithy one liners.

Post something intelligent or keep your damn meatbeaters off the keyboard.

-b

I will not tell you again. You're starting to piss me off.

[EvanL]

So are you telling a friend of mine who is muslim is secretly plotting behind my back to cut my head off? grow up


Is he following the steps of Jihad correctly?
Seoulstriker. u seriously need to get a life. You are the biggest ****ing idiot on this board. You do nothing but post stuff about how every muslim wants to kill every nonmuslim, about cocks, about how someones going to hell because they refused to remain celibate. And Occassionally the only thing u will contribute is a picture. Dont you understand that nobody here likes you? At least the sane people.
I used to tolerate your posts by dismissing you as simply being retarded. but now your posts have gone beyond retarded. You are now a full fledged idiot. :bash:

[UoUo]

How do you know to "speak" hebrew?When I was growing up my mom and dad forced me to learn hebrew since they grew up jewish, my hebrew is rusty and needs work.
zayin al hakuss hamasrihach shel haima hamechoeret shelcha .

rofl rofl

You people are crazy....


ehyeh asher ehyeh!

:D "ani aod ashne"



[quote]How do you know to "speak" hebrew?When I was growing up my mom and dad forced me to learn hebrew since they grew up jewish, my hebrew is rusty and needs work.[/quote

:D

So you are not jewish?

[Beowulf]

So are you telling a friend of mine who is muslim is secretly plotting behind my back to cut my head off? grow up


Is he following the steps of Jihad correctly?
Seoulstriker. u seriously need to get a life. You are the biggest f*** idiot on this board. You do nothing but post stuff about how every muslim wants to kill every nonmuslim, about cocks, about how someones going to hell because they refused to remain celibate. And Occassionally the only thing u will contribute is a picture. Dont you understand that nobody here likes you? At least the sane people.
I used to tolerate your posts by dismissing you as simply being retarded. but now your posts have gone beyond retarded. You are now a full fledged idiot. :bash:


Alright then.