Nayaf fights

[MARINO]

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American special forces join coalition soldiers as the Spanish base comes under attack outside Kufa, 15 kms north of Najaf, Iraq (news - web sites), Sunday April 4 2004; Gunmen opened fire on the Spanish garrison near the holy city of Najaf on Sunday during a huge demonstration by followers of an anti-American Shiite Muslim cleric.One Salvadoran, one American, one Iraqi soldier and at least 14 Iraqis died, and more than 130 people were wounded. (AP PHOTO/Gervasio Sanchez) SPAIN OUT EFE OUT
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American soldiers take cover as the Spanish base comes under attack outside Kufa, 15 kms north of Najaf, Iraq (news - web sites), Sunday April 4 2004; Gunmen opened fire on the Spanish garrison near the holy city of Najaf on Sunday during a huge demonstration by followers of an anti-American Shiite Muslim cleric.One Salvadoran, one American, one Iraqi soldier and at least 14 Iraqis died, and more than 130 people were wounded. (AP PHOTO/Gervasio Sanchez)

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A Salvadorean soldier runs near a Spanish soldier for cover as his base comes under attack outside Kufa, 15 kms north of Najaf, Iraq (news - web sites), Sunday, April 4,2004. Gunmen opened fire on the Spanish garrison near the holy city of Najaf on Sunday during a huge demonstration by followers of an anti-American Shiite Muslim cleric. (AP PHOTO/Gervasio Sanchez) SPAIN OUT EFE OUT

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An American soldier runs for cover as the Spanish base comes under attack outside Kufa, 15 kms north of Najaf, Iraq (news - web sites), Sunday April 4 2004; Gunmen opened fire on the Spanish garrison near the holy city of Najaf on Sunday during a huge demonstration by followers of an anti-American Shiite Muslim cleric. (AP PHOTO/Gervasio Sanchez) SPAIN OUT EFE OUT (In the background Salvadorean and Spanish soldiers)

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A Spanish officer ducks as his base comes under attack outside Kufa, 15 kms north of Najaf, Iraq (news - web sites), Sunday, April 4, 2004. Gunmen opened fire on the Spanish garrison near the holy city of Najaf on Sunday during a huge demonstration by followers of an anti-American Shiite Muslim cleric. (AP Photo/Gervasio Sanchez) SPAIN OUT EFE OUT

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A member of Shiite radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr's Army of Mehdi fires with his Kalashnikov at Spanish-led troops outside the Iraqi Shiite holy city of Najaf.(AFP/Karim Sahib)
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Crowds of protesters march on a Spanish garrison near Kufa April 4, 2004. Spanish-led troops and Iraqi police fired on protesters and clashed with armed Shi'ite militiamen near Najaf on Sunday, leaving at least 19 people dead and more than 100 wounded, witnesses and hospital officials said. *******/Ali Abu Shish

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Iraqi man fires a gun from behind a truck during demonstrations in the Iraqi town of Najaf April 4, 2004. At least 19 people were killed and more than 100 wounded in clashes between Spanish-led forces and Iraqi protesters and militiamen near the city of Najaf on Sunday, hospital officials said. *******/******* television
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U.S. troops disembark from their Blackhawk helicopter into a field near a Spanish base in the Iraqi town of Kufa April 5, 2004. *******/Akram Saleh


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Spanish soldiers firing against demonstrators

[Dave the Dawg]

Posted in another thread, but I'll add it here. Natividad Méndez Ramos, the El Salvadoran soldier killed this weekend, with his son José Antonio, 5 yrs old.
http://www.elsalvador.com/especiales/2003/batallon/img/primero02.JPG

[ChuckThunder]

Posted in another thread, but I'll add it here. Natividad Méndez Ramos, the El Salvadoran soldier killed this weekend, with his son José Antonio, 5 yrs old.
http://www.elsalvador.com/especiales/2003/batallon/img/primero02.JPG

RIP.

[MARINO]

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A Salvadorean soldier watches over the Iraqi village of Al Sahla, April 3, 2004, following a firefight with a little known Shi'ite militia the previous night. Four soldiers from El Salvador (news - web sites) were killed and nine wounded on Sunday in clashes near Iraq (news - web sites)'s holy Shi'ite city of Najaf, the Spanish Defence Ministry said. At least 19 people were killed and 100 wounded in the clashes between troops and supporters of a radical Shi'ite cleric, Moqtada al-Sadr. Picture taken April 3 *******/Ali Jasim
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A Salvadoran coalition soldier seeks protecting from incoming fire behind a wall in Kufa, Iraq (news - web sites), 15 kms north of Najaf, Sunday April 4, 2004. Gunmen opened fire on the Spanish garrison near the holy city of Najaf on Sunday during a huge demonstration by followers of an anti-American Shiite Muslim cleric. Four Salvadoran soldiers and at least 14 Iraqis died, and more than 130 people were wounded. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed)

[Soulhunter]

the poor el salvadorean soldiers don't even know what they're doing there in the first place ...

RIP

[XASA]

the poor el salvadorean soldiers don't even know what they're doing there in the first place ...

RIP

Another new member with a hard on against the coalition. The dead can't even rest in peace without being put down. How condescending.

RIP

[Imshi-Yallah]

No need to be condescending to pro soldiers, they are all members of El Salvadors most elite units with a long recent history of COIN warfare.
Just because they aren't from Europe/USA/Commonwealth there is no reason to doubt their abilities.

[cut]

the poor el salvadorean soldiers don't even know what they're doing there in the first place ...

RIP

Another new member with a hard on against the coalition. The dead can't even rest in peace without being put down. How condescending.

RIP

doesn't look like he meant that they don't know what they are doing, rather questioning why they are there. No-one is doubtintg their abilities.

[big80a2]

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A Salvadorean soldier watches over the Iraqi village of Al Sahla, April 3, 2004, following a firefight with a little known Shi'ite militia the previous night. Four soldiers from El Salvador (news - web sites) were killed and nine wounded on Sunday in clashes near Iraq (news - web sites)'s holy Shi'ite city of Najaf, the Spanish Defence Ministry said. At least 19 people were killed and 100 wounded in the clashes between troops and supporters of a radical Shi'ite cleric, Moqtada al-Sadr. Picture taken April 3 *******/Ali Jasim
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A Salvadoran coalition soldier seeks protecting from incoming fire behind a wall in Kufa, Iraq (news - web sites), 15 kms north of Najaf, Sunday April 4, 2004. Gunmen opened fire on the Spanish garrison near the holy city of Najaf on Sunday during a huge demonstration by followers of an anti-American Shiite Muslim cleric. Four Salvadoran soldiers and at least 14 Iraqis died, and more than 130 people were wounded. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed)

how many soldiers do they actually have in the area?

[cut]

great pics btw.

[scoone]

I think that they have 380 soldiers and ranks

[TALOS]

the poor el salvadorean soldiers don't even know what they're doing there in the first place ...

RIP

Another new member with a hard on against the coalition. The dead can't even rest in peace without being put down. How condescending.

RIP

doesn't look like he meant that they don't know what they are doing, rather questioning why they are there. No-one is doubtintg their abilities.
He said they dont know what they are doing there, a statement, it is implying that they were put there without any knowledge of why, it is an insult to a professional soldier to say he doesnt know why he's there.

[wulfstan]

A well trained, well armed sniper on the roof of those coalition buildings could do a lot of damage to those militia. Ordered to take out anyone with a firearm outside would send out the right message, plus avoid the messy mistakes helicopter strikes often inflict. Just my humble opinion...

[rafaelcb]

I guess the coalition forces are trying not to kill too many people (specially unarmed civilians). If there is a massacre among those Shiites, the rest of Irak would uprise and that woud be hell. Not to mention neighbor Iran.
Just my two cents

[wulfstan]

I wonder what the new Spanish govt thinks of its troops fighting for their lives in Iraq?

[usa320]

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Id hit that...




























Truck with a Maverick...

[bloddyaxe]

Truck with a Maverick...

why not let this http://www.hi.is/~pgi/t80-m1_2.jpg
fall down on the truck instead... much more shocking...

[ZoneOne]

Hehe i like that flying TANK

Great pics...

especially the picture of the Soldier with his son.

Sad :-(

I hope the best for his little boy

RIP everyone's life who was lost in Iraq

[rafaelcb]

I wonder what the new Spanish govt thinks of its troops fighting for their lives in Iraq?

They think our troops are doing an excellent job. No one has critiziced our troops. The left thinks they shouldn't be there. The right thinks they should. But I've only read very good comments of their professionalism. In the past the image of the armed forces was not so good due to Franco's regime, but it has improved tremendously after people have realized the excellent job they do all over the world.

[SeanAshi]

[Loco]

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Certainly, Spain is changing very quickly, most of times for good. Once we went to América, not as tourists, cough, and now americans are coming here. This three spanish paras certainly look what they are, centroamericans and equatorians. I´m soooo happy that this men want to serve in spanish army that I can´t say anymore. Here they´re, in the heart of Castilla, vigilating the water we drink. I´d open the door at all for americans and I´d shut if for moors, but EU now rules inmigration policy, a thing that I don´t like at all. And yes, spanish politicians are satisfied with our soldiers, as is logic, but some of them think they are so valious that sending them abroad without any clear reason is wrong.

[cut]

the poor el salvadorean soldiers don't even know what they're doing there in the first place ...

RIP

Another new member with a hard on against the coalition. The dead can't even rest in peace without being put down. How condescending.

RIP

doesn't look like he meant that they don't know what they are doing, rather questioning why they are there. No-one is doubtintg their abilities.
He said they dont know what they are doing there, a statement, it is implying that they were put there without any knowledge of why, it is an insult to a professional soldier to say he doesnt know why he's there.

does that apply to vietnam vets?

[scoone]

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Certainly, Spain is changing very quickly, most of times for good. Once we went to América, not as tourists, cough, and now americans are coming here. This three spanish paras certainly look what they are, centroamericans and equatorians. I´m soooo happy that this men want to serve in spanish army that I can´t say anymore. Here they´re, in the heart of Castilla, vigilating the water we drink. I´d open the door at all for americans and I´d shut if for moors, but EU now rule inmigration policy, a thing that I don´t like at all. And yes, spanish politicians are satisfied with our soldiers, as is logic, but some of them think they are so valious that sending them abroad without any clear reason is wrong.

I also think that it's great . They are our brothers but for some "dark" reason we can't close the door to the moors. Meanwhile we are leaving all these brave guys outside.

[front]

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Image of the US civilians who helped to defend an outpost in Najaf last Sunday:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53059-2004Apr5.html

Anyone see anymore out there?

cheers

front

[XASA]

the poor el salvadorean soldiers don't even know what they're doing there in the first place ...

RIP

Another new member with a hard on against the coalition. The dead can't even rest in peace without being put down. How condescending.

RIP

doesn't look like he meant that they don't know what they are doing, rather questioning why they are there. No-one is doubtintg their abilities.
He said they dont know what they are doing there, a statement, it is implying that they were put there without any knowledge of why, it is an insult to a professional soldier to say he doesnt know why he's there.

does that apply to vietnam vets?

Vietnam Vets are use to being insulted ;) So it don't mean nothing, don't mean a thing :P

But you did manage to change the subject, didn't you?

Perhaps when you grow up you might perchance understand what it means to be a soldier, until then, you can continue to live vicariously through the experiences of others here on militaryphotos.net.

[computer]

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Where does the first soldier in front uses a shotgun for? doesn't seem very accurate for that distance

[Undo]

the poor el salvadorean soldiers don't even know what they're doing there in the first place ...

RIP

Another new member with a hard on against the coalition. The dead can't even rest in peace without being put down. How condescending.

RIP

doesn't look like he meant that they don't know what they are doing, rather questioning why they are there. No-one is doubtintg their abilities.
He said they dont know what they are doing there, a statement, it is implying that they were put there without any knowledge of why, it is an insult to a professional soldier to say he doesnt know why he's there.

does that apply to vietnam vets?

Vietnam Vets are use to being insulted ;) So it don't mean nothing, don't mean a thing :P

But you did manage to change the subject, didn't you?

Perhaps when you grow up you might perchance understand what it means to be a soldier, until then, you can continue to live vicariously through the experiences of others here on militaryphotos.net.

Don't want to get involved in whatever this is all about, but I had to comment on Cut's comment. Vietnam Vets, i.e.-soldiers who fought in that conflict, were drafted (conscripted, if you must). They were not professional soldiers. A professional soldier is a volunteer.

[XASA]

Undo,

I served in Vietnam, hence my response to what I deemed a stupid remark.

You are right on about the conscription, but there were many who volunteered as well or had enlisted and were assigned to Vietnam at some point during their military service, which was the case with me. Thanks for the input. :D

[ibstolidude]

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Where does the first soldier in front uses a shotgun for? doesn't seem very accurate for that distance

Shotgun?

The man closest the camera has an M249 light machine gun - very effective at range on soft targets. not sure I see the shotgun guy?

[Chris O`Crooh]

Neither can I see anyone with a shotgun. Notice, that some of those guys use a variant of M-4 with a 16" barrel.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Perhaps when you grow up you might perchance understand what it means to be a soldier, until then, you can continue to live vicariously through the experiences of others here on militaryphotos.net.

Target!..... rofl

[Resevoir Hogs]

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Perhaps when you grow up you might perchance understand what it means to be a soldier, until then, you can continue to live vicariously through the experiences of others here on militaryphotos.net.


Target!.....

Gawd don't try and turn this into another flame war. hopefully we're can all see how ghey those things are.

[computer]

Shotgun?

The man closest the camera has an M249 light machine gun - very effective at range on soft targets. not sure I see the shotgun guy?


Neither can I see anyone with a shotgun. Notice, that some of those guys use a variant of M-4 with a 16" barrel.

Your probably right, although there seems to be something in front of the closest soldier to the camera, a (shot)gun without a man, maybe he ducked or something..
or perhaps I am just talking bs, I'm no expert on rifles