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Mountain Man
09-16-2006, 04:49 AM
This was posted on another site included at the bottom with more pics than those here.


14. 09. 2000
Tanki T34-76 väljatõmbamine Kurtna järvest
Foto: Meelis Mitt

www.mil.hiiumaa.ee (http://www.mil.hiiumaa.ee/index.html)


WW-II Trophy tank

14 September 2000, a Komatsu D375A-2 pulled an abandoned tank from its archival tomb under the bottom of a lake near Johvi, Estonia. The Soviet-built T34/76A tank had been resting at the bottom of the lake for 56 years. According to its specifications, it's a 27-tonne machine with a top speed of 53km/h.

From February to September 1944, heavy battles were fought in the narrow, 50 km-wide, Narva front in the northeastern part of Estonia. Over 100,000 men were killed and 300,000 men were wounded there. During battles in the summer of 1944, the tank was captured from the Soviet army and used by the German army. (This is the reason that there are German markings painted on the tank's exterior.) On 19 September 1944, German troops began an organised retreat along the Narva front. It is suspected that the tank was then purposefully driven into the lake, abandoning it when its captors left the area.

At that time, a local boy walking by the lake Kurtna Matasjarv noticed tank tracks leading into the lake, but not coming out anywhere. For two months he saw air bubbles emerging from the lake. This gave him reason to believe that there must be an armoured vehicle at the lake's bottom. A few years ago, he told the story to the leader of the local war history club "Otsing". Together with other club members, Mr Igor Shedunov initiated diving expeditions to the bottom of the lake about a year ago. At the depth of 7 metres they discovered the tank resting under a 3-metre layer of peat.

Enthusiasts from the club, under Mr Shedunov's leadership, decided to pull the tank out. In September 2000 they turned to Mr Aleksander Borovkovthe, manager of the Narva open pit of the stock company AS Eesti Polevkivi, to rent the company's Komatsu D375A-2 bulldozer. Currently used at the pit, the Komatsu dozer was manufactured in 1995, and has 19,000 operating hours without major repairs.

The pulling operation began at 09:00 and was concluded at 15:00, with several technical breaks. The weight of the tank, combined with the travel incline, made a pulling operation that required significant muscle. The D375A-2 handled the operation with power and style. The weight of the fully armed tank was around 30 tons, so the tractive force required to retrieve it was similar. A main requirement for the 68-tonne dozer was to have enough weight to prevent shoe-slip while moving up the hill.

After the tank surfaced, it turned out to be a 'trophy' tank, that had been captured by the German army in the course of the battle at Sinimaed (Blue Hills) about six weeks before it was sunk in the lake. Altogether, 116 shells were found on board. Remarkably, the tank was in good condition, with no rust, and all systems (except the engine) in working condition.
This is a very rare machine, especially considering that it fought both on the Russian and the German sides. Plans are under way to fully restore the tank. It will be displayed at a war history museum, that will be founded at the Gorodenko village on the left bank of the River Narva.

Looking at the two tracked machines, the modern yellow Komatsu dozer is a reminder of how machine technologies have advanced, and the region's prospects of peace and prosperity have brightened.


Komatsu Times


(Quarterly News Magazine for Construction Equipment Users - Volume 3 No 1)


http://www.mil.hiiumaa.ee/2000_09_14_kurtna_T-34-36/

http://www.diving.ee/articles/art035.html

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/6895/tank3mk4.jpg


http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/2342/tank2ga1.jpg

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9754/tankee0.jpg

Ironsight06
09-16-2006, 04:52 AM
Wow that's pretty awesome :)

enforcer
09-16-2006, 05:04 AM
Incredibly good preserved

Rebel Yell
09-16-2006, 06:57 AM
They'll probably need 4-5years to clean it... :D

Mountain Man
09-16-2006, 06:59 AM
I'm still suprised that 100+ shells fit in that thing. There are some pics on one of those sites that show their size.

Xaito
09-16-2006, 08:08 AM
Remarkably, the tank was in good condition, with no rust, and all systems (except the engine) in working condition.
nice - thats what i call russian workmanship :)

enforcer
09-16-2006, 08:17 AM
[quote]Remarkably, the tank was in good condition, with no rust, and all systems (except the engine) in working condition.[/qote]
nice - thats what i call russian workmanship :)

LOL man :)

Lazarou
09-16-2006, 08:18 AM
Sorry, but it's a repost.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=76786

goat89
09-16-2006, 03:29 PM
Still...interesting. Thx for sharing!

Xaito
09-16-2006, 03:51 PM
Remarkably, the tank was in good condition, with no rust, and all systems (except the engine) in working condition.
then on second thought... does that thing even have any other systems then the engine? ;)

Mountain Man
09-16-2006, 04:39 PM
Sorry, but it's a repost.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=76786


Ah man, I searched a few ways just not "Trophy tank"

Nebelwerfer.
09-16-2006, 05:21 PM
Remarkably, the tank was in good condition, with no rust, and all systems (except the engine) in working condition.

4th vid on this link (http://www.diving.ee/articles/art035.html) (just before the pictures, vid is called 'start diesel engine) shows that they managed to repair his engine. Friggin' unbelieveable!! 56 years on the bottom of the lake and the engine still works...what a tank!

stottman
09-16-2006, 05:31 PM
My wife is from Estonia, not too far from where the tank was pulled out. She says that its still very common for bodies to found from WW2, just laying in the forest, still in uniform, with weapon, ammo, etc.

wicked_hind
09-16-2006, 05:33 PM
If no one else will say it, then I'll say it......T-34 STRONG!!!!

Wojsko Polskie
09-16-2006, 05:34 PM
Very cool! Estonia seems like a really cool place if you ask me.

koozya
09-16-2006, 06:20 PM
great tank in great condition.

Bryson C
09-16-2006, 06:26 PM
That's pretty cool and it's a trophy tank to boot.

CPL Trevoga
09-16-2006, 10:33 PM
If no one else will say it, then I'll say it......T-34 STRONG!!!!

T34 is indeed strong, but thanks to the swampy water, which is very low on oxigen, tank is in really great shape. I'll try to find link to the pics of German Stug III that sank near Moscow. Pretty amizing stuff. A yes, there are many, many unberried bodies German and Russian around Western Russia, especially from the early time of war.

x2Cool557x
09-16-2006, 10:36 PM
I would love to be the person who found that. Makes for good stories.

ice55
09-16-2006, 11:39 PM
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9754/tankee0.jpg

Noticing the German ensignia on the side of the tank, was it a captured tank or a deception?

TheBlackHand
09-17-2006, 12:20 AM
It is a captured, refurbished T-34 in German service. Aside from the crosses, the German commanders coupola is a dead giveaway.

Here's some more info: Panzerkampfwagen T-34(r) (http://www.achtungpanzer.com/t34.htm)

Makes the story just that much more interesting.

M1 Garand
09-17-2006, 12:32 AM
Thanks for sharing man. Thats crazy!

RECON DOC
09-17-2006, 12:36 AM
It is a captured, refurbished T-34 in German service. Aside from the crosses, the German commanders coupola is a dead giveaway.

Here's some more info: Panzerkampfwagen T-34(r) (http://www.achtungpanzer.com/t34.htm)

Makes the story just that much more interesting.

Great link thanks.

OldRecon
09-18-2006, 05:00 AM
It is a captured, refurbished T-34 in German service. Aside from the crosses, the German commanders coupola is a dead giveaway.

Here's some more info: Panzerkampfwagen T-34(r) (http://www.achtungpanzer.com/t34.htm)

Makes the story just that much more interesting.

In fact the cupola of that thing is Soviet. It's the same turret cuppola as mounted on the turret of the T-34/85. If this late model T-34/76 had a 3-man turret as opposed to the more common 2-man turret layout I'm not sure though.

Syncmaster
09-20-2006, 06:00 PM
I would suggest it is not the craftmanship or quality of material that decides for how long something can survive in such conditions, it is the conditions themselves that are important only!

for example, the oldest wheel made of ashen wood and its axis made of oak were found near my home in Ljubljana, Slovenia, burried under "mud" that prevented decomposition for more than 5000!!! years!! They decided not to put the wheel and its axis under chemical treatment for conservation purpose because the results al over the world show there has been no satisfactory solution so far. Therefore, both artifacts were transfered to a museum depo and protected by the original mud itself.

In the same area and in the river bed that runs nearby, 100% preserved roman and older weapons, armour etc can be found, preserved in this mud.

Quite fascinating!