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ogukuo72
04-05-2004, 08:53 PM
Armed police patrol Madrid metro

Armed police are patrolling Madrid's metro system as Spain beefs up security in the wake of the recent bomb attacks and raids on terror suspects.
Fast-track check-in points at Madrid airport are closed and the army is guarding key road and rail links.

Police say they are hunting for remaining members of a terror cell wanted for the Madrid train bombs.

The attack's alleged mastermind and at least four others blew themselves up when surrounded on Saturday.

Anti-terrorist sources say that further human remains were found on Monday evening in the rubble of the Madrid building where the suspects had been holed up.

Investigations are under way to determine whether there had been a sixth person in the flat.


'Rivers of blood'

Police are also examining a fax threatening bloodshed if Spain does not pull its troops from Iraq and Afghanistan.


Key Madrid suspects
Sarhane ben Abdelmajid Fakhet: Dead
Abdennabi Kounjaa: Dead
Jamal Ahmidan: Dead
Rachid Oulad Akcha: At large
Mohammed Oulad Akcha: At large
Said Berraj: At large


The fax, handwritten in Arabic, was sent to a newspaper by a group calling itself Abu Nayaf al-Afgani.
The group claimed responsibility for the 11 March attacks, which killed 191 people, and for Friday's foiled bomb attack on the high-speed train link between Madrid and Seville.

The group said if its demands were not met, "we will declare war on you and turn your country into a hell where blood will flow in rivers".

Spain's incoming Socialist Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero has promised to withdraw 1,300 Iraq-based troops by 30 June unless the United Nations takes control.

ABC newspaper says investigators believe Abu Nayaf al-Afgani is linked to the alleged terrorist cell in Madrid led by Sarhane ben Abdelmajid Fakhet.

Fakhet and Jamal Ahmidan, both named on international arrest warrants, died as anti-terrorist police surrounded their apartment in the Leganes area of Madrid on Saturday.

They blew themselves up, also killing Abdennabi Kounjaa (also on the arrest warrant), Asri Rifaat Anouar and another person, as yet unidentified.

Interior Minister Angel Acebes said their "collective suicide" meant "the core of the group that carried out the attacks is either arrested or dead".

Security measures

But rucksacks filled with explosives were found in the wreckage of the Madrid flat as well as 200 detonators of the kind used in the Madrid bombings, suggesting the cell had been poised to strike again.


This is a very quiet neighbourhood... But it's places like this where these people try to hide
Local resident

Among the increased security measures announced on Monday, police are guarding the underground and bus stations for the first time.
"Guaranteeing the safety of public transport is an absolute priority right now," Madrid's mayor, Alberto Ruiz-Gallardon said.

Maritime patrols along Spain's coasts have been stepped up.

The BBC's Katya Adler in Madrid says people there remain fearful of fresh attacks.

Three of the suspects from the international arrest warrant are still at large: Moroccan brothers Mohammed and Rachid Oulad Akcha and Moroccan Said Berraj.

A suspect arrested on Saturday in Ceuta, a Spanish enclave in North Africa, is still being investigated, but a second man detained in Fuenlabrada, near Madrid, at the weekend is said to have been released after being questioned briefly.

Spain has already provisionally charged 15 suspects over the Madrid train attacks.

The Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group is the main focus of police investigations.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/3601897.stm

Published: 2004/04/05 19:08:11 GMT

© BBC MMIV


This just goes to show that you can't placate terrorists by giving in to them. Give them an inch, and they'll ask for a yard.

foxtrot023
04-05-2004, 09:00 PM
This just goes to show that you can't placate terrorists by giving in to them. Give them an inch, and they'll ask for a yard.

Exactly, but tell me were was Spain placating terrorists?


And please, PLEASE, don`t tell it is because of the months old pre electoral pledge by the socialists to withdraw the troops in Irak, that your are basing your opinion on, because fella-me-lad Spain has been combating terrorism for 40 yrs.

(read more before writing)

Beowulf
04-05-2004, 09:02 PM
This just goes to show that you can't placate terrorists by giving in to them. Give them an inch, and they'll ask for a yard.

Exactly, but tell me were was Spain placating terrorists?


And please, PLEASE, don`t tell it is because of the months old pre electoral pledge by the socialists to withdraw the troops in Irak, that your are basing your opinion on, because fella-me-lad Spain has been combating terrorism for 40 yrs.

(read more before writing)

The voters gave the perception of folding to terrorist influence.

I know little to nothing about Spanish politics, but it is my understanding that the incumbent was heavily favored to win the election until the terrorist attack...

cut
04-05-2004, 09:05 PM
This just goes to show that you can't placate terrorists by giving in to them. Give them an inch, and they'll ask for a yard.

Exactly, but tell me were was Spain placating terrorists?


And please, PLEASE, don`t tell it is because of the months old pre electoral pledge by the socialists to withdraw the troops in Irak, that your are basing your opinion on, because fella-me-lad Spain has been combating terrorism for 40 yrs.

(read more before writing)

The voters gave the perception of folding to terrorist influence.

I know little to nothing about Spanish politics, but it is my understanding that the incumbent was heavily favored to win the election until the terrorist attack...

favoured maybe, but not heavily so

Truthsayer
04-05-2004, 09:05 PM
The voters gave the perception of folding to terrorist influence.

I know little to nothing about Spanish politics, but it is my understanding that the incumbent was heavily favored to win the election until the terrorist attack...

Nononono...and any polititian using an terrorist-attack to boost their own agenda should burn. Period.

(And so they did...in Spain. In other countries they manage to cram their pockets full of money first.)

Democrazy won in spain, even though I don't think the choice was the best in the political sence (since I'm right, not left-wing).


Edit: I'm spelling like a drunk hobo.

MEGR
04-05-2004, 09:07 PM
I sure hope the Spanish find and eliminate these scumbags.

Ichhabe
04-05-2004, 09:11 PM
This just goes to show that you can't placate terrorists by giving in to them. Give them an inch, and they'll ask for a yard.

Exactly, but tell me were was Spain placating terrorists?


And please, PLEASE, don`t tell it is because of the months old pre electoral pledge by the socialists to withdraw the troops in Irak, that your are basing your opinion on, because fella-me-lad Spain has been combating terrorism for 40 yrs.

(read more before writing)

The voters gave the perception of folding to terrorist influence.

I know little to nothing about Spanish politics, but it is my understanding that the incumbent was heavily favored to win the election until the terrorist attack...

When the Spanish gov. weant out so strong against ETA and gave them the blame for the bombings, and would not even consider firstly that it was an Al-Qaida operation: Then the voters gave them the respond that they deserved.

I really don't think that it was the Spanish voters intention to "give" in for terrorists.
This is a lesson to be learned by others: Do not lie to or diecive the voters two days before a major election.

And also: I really don't think that the new Spanish gov. will withdraw the soldiers from Iraq, even if the UN do not get a greater role. But that was one of the causes that lead to their election victory.

foxtrot023
04-05-2004, 09:12 PM
Well The PP (Aznar party) was ahead, although not by a landslide, however what upset the people was the way the government handle the information the first 2 days (when even after finding the van with the Coran verses, they still blamed ETA).

But you are correct, there is the perception the vote changed because of terrorism, and for that the blame lands in zapatero`s lap (the winner). Now, this guy was not ready to win (let`s say the other party lost) and it shows, because his idiotic remark on withdrawing the troops has actually endangered Spain more. Even if his intention is to withdraw the troops (because, and trust me, this isn`t over yet, and my gut feeling is that the troops will remain) he should have kept his mouth shut. BTW, personally I can`t stand the guy, he was clearly not ready to become president, and he is making many mistakes that will cost Spain dearly, but that`s democracy for you. On the other hand, saying that Spain caved in, when we have been fighting terrorists for 40 years, with over 800 deaths to mourn (and that included ETA bombing of a supermarket in Barcelona with heavy civilian casualties) is just too much to swallow, specially with not supporting evidence whatsoever.

Regards

Yard Ape
04-05-2004, 10:24 PM
The best way to send the message that 'Spain did not cave' would be to increase the Afghanistan comitment by the 1,300 that are leaving Iraq.

Extremists threaten to turn Spain 'into an inferno' (http://globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040405.wspain0405/BNStory/International/)

to free the oppressed
04-05-2004, 10:53 PM
I would like to say first that foxtrot023 and I have the same avators :D
Next Spain should say **** you terrorists sons-of-bitchs. And we should stand firm with America and all of her Allies no matter what the risk is. America, Britain and other countries should send troops to Spain to help assist the Spanish Government with there pest problem.

Mamon
04-05-2004, 11:12 PM
America, Britain and other countries should send troops to Spain to help assist the Spanish Government with there pest problem.

It's not a matter of needing troops, there's no war in Spain. It's terrorists and Spain needs the materiel, moral and intelligience support of other western nations. The problem isn't that of the government; it is the blood of the Spanish people that's been shed over so many years. [/quote]

foxtrot023
04-05-2004, 11:55 PM
Personally, I believe that all of the West should join forces against terrorism, instead of arguing between us. Terrorists (specially Al Qaeda) are looking to create a war of civilizations, and we must not fall in their game. We should hunt them down like the cockroaches they are, wether in Spain, in France, in the US, etc.

To Yard Ape,

Personally, I believe we should be sending MORE troops to Irak, but since I am not the Prez......
Nevertheless we have 250 troops in Afganistan, plus over 300 more in warships (and active, as shown by the capturing of the N. Korean ship).

Pd: To to free the oppressed, we both got good taste ;)

to free the oppressed
04-06-2004, 12:09 AM
It's not a matter of needing troops, there's no war in Spain. It's terrorists and Spain needs the materiel, moral and intelligience support of other western nations.
What I'm saying is we could send troops there as extra security for Spain. As an example: say there is a police patrol in Madrid instead of there being 12 police officers on patrol there could be 36 officers with the help of America and Britain police officers. We (America) need to step up no matter what the problem is especially with America's allies.

Korth
04-13-2004, 03:17 AM
http://photopile.com/photos/dead/auctions/104243.jpg

seruriermarshal
04-13-2004, 03:22 AM
http://photopile.com/photos/dead/auctions/104243.jpg

Good pic ......

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

scoone
04-13-2004, 04:06 AM
For all the spaniards , you see, the photo above is the proof : habelas hailas

scoone
04-13-2004, 04:13 AM
Personally, I believe that all of the West should join forces against terrorism, instead of arguing between us. Terrorists (specially Al Qaeda) are looking to create a war of civilizations, and we must not fall in their game. We should hunt them down like the cockroaches they are, wether in Spain, in France, in the US, etc.

To Yard Ape,

Personally, I believe we should be sending MORE troops to Irak, but since I am not the Prez......
Nevertheless we have 250 troops in Afganistan, plus over 300 more in warships (and active, as shown by the capturing of the N. Korean ship).

Pd: To to free the oppressed, we both got good taste ;)

I also think that we must increase the number of troops in Iraq, but it's hard now to do with the new goverment and 78% of the citizens against the war.The only chance is to go under a UN command.

injetores que chamejam
04-13-2004, 06:19 PM
Personally, I believe that all of the West should join forces against terrorism, instead of arguing between us. Terrorists (specially Al Qaeda) are looking to create a war of civilizations, and we must not fall in their game. We should hunt them down like the cockroaches they are, wether in Spain, in France, in the US, etc.

To Yard Ape,

Personally, I believe we should be sending MORE troops to Irak, but since I am not the Prez......
Nevertheless we have 250 troops in Afganistan, plus over 300 more in warships (and active, as shown by the capturing of the N. Korean ship).

Pd: To to free the oppressed, we both got good taste ;)

I also think that we must increase the number of troops in Iraq, but it's hard now to do with the new goverment and 78% of the citizens against the war.The only chance is to go under a UN command.

The UN will fuk it up, too many muslims in UN. Better that it be NATO alliance if it must be a multinational force.

injetores que chamejam
04-13-2004, 06:21 PM
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rofl retrato bom!

Truthsayer
04-13-2004, 08:57 PM
The UN will fuk it up, too many muslims in UN. Better that it be NATO alliance if it must be a multinational force.


How many muslum countrys have VETO-right?