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TP
04-06-2004, 07:17 AM
http://www.punchbaby.com/media/gitfakt/clips/sick/DontLoot.wmv

Kingpin
04-06-2004, 07:26 AM
http://www.punchbaby.com/media/gitfakt/clips/sick/DontLoot.wmv

Grrr... Let's ban him. :) How much times it will posted here man?

haze99
04-06-2004, 07:40 AM
Ahh, winning hearts and minds!

PS-what did you expect? They are Tankers! Not police!

mack pl
04-06-2004, 07:58 AM
Abrams rulezz :roll:

Hellman109
04-06-2004, 08:04 AM
Perhaps the owners of the car made there carport to short, and terfore got some nice handy tankers to make there sedan a coup :roll: :lol:

Groove
04-06-2004, 08:08 AM
i like this video - especially the sound of the turbine !

dez000
04-06-2004, 09:52 AM
Ahh, winning hearts and minds!

PS-what did you expect? They are Tankers! Not police!

I wonder if you would have said the same if it where European tankers... :bash:

FinnishMF
04-06-2004, 10:18 AM
There are allways some assholes among us :bash:

:cantbeli:

Operation Ivy
04-06-2004, 10:22 AM
Dont steal ;)

mack pl
04-06-2004, 10:49 AM
Dont steal ;)when US tankers watching ;)

Groove
04-06-2004, 10:51 AM
this chico said:

"thats what happenin`when u loot"

i bet some years ago he was looting in LA ;)

Greetings

Groove

spoonman
04-06-2004, 10:51 AM
uh...

isn't looting usually a shootable offense?

i think it is better that they crushed the car then shooting the poor bastages.

Herrmannek
04-06-2004, 10:54 AM
Dont steal ;)

Don't defend those assholes, even those guys stole that wood, why tha hell they run over it with the car...I wan't to see your faces when police will run a tank over car stolen from you only to show thefs that they shouldn't do that again...

spoonman
04-06-2004, 11:12 AM
I wan't to see your faces when police will run a tank over car stolen from you only to show thefs that they shouldn't do that again...

i'd want you to see my face after something like that happened. i'd be smiling huge and probably giving a thumbs up.

moron.

Gameholic
04-06-2004, 11:15 AM
:D keep loving this movie!

Thumbs up!

Tengu
04-06-2004, 11:16 AM
Give a hoot, don't loot ;) .

Anyway IF this is not a fake it is an outrage.

Herrmannek
04-06-2004, 11:19 AM
I wan't to see your faces when police will run a tank over car stolen from you only to show thefs that they shouldn't do that again...

i'd want you to see my face after something like that happened. i'd be smiling huge and probably giving a thumbs up.

moron.

Why to call names?

spoonman
04-06-2004, 11:23 AM
Anyway IF this is not a fake it is an outrage.

why?

you are looting + looking is illegal = we crush your car, bitch.

oh. wait a minute. i know why it is an outrage; because it involves americans doing things in iraq!

thus, it must be bad. those americans are never good. savages really.



Why to call names?

call names? i was stating facts.

Herrmannek
04-06-2004, 11:36 AM
Sponman I see you don't understand something.
"Justice" made in rage is heavier crime than looting...Thats why are courts, jurymen and thos thick books of rules called codexes to avoid such accidents..."Shows" like that have nothing to do with justice.

spoonman
04-06-2004, 11:41 AM
Sponman I see you don't understand something.
"Justice" made in rage is heavier crime than looting...Thats why are courts, jurymen and thos thick books of rules called codexes to avoid such accidents..."Shows" like that have nothing to do with justice.

rage? where? what accident? they don't? seems to me like without a car it's going to be hard for the iraqi to steal, and when he tells his friends that "those americans crushed my car when they caught me looting" it might make iraq a little better place. also, i see nothing wrong with enjoying your job.

Herrmannek
04-06-2004, 11:47 AM
Sponman I see you don't understand something.
"Justice" made in rage is heavier crime than looting...Thats why are courts, jurymen and thos thick books of rules called codexes to avoid such accidents..."Shows" like that have nothing to do with justice.

rage? where? what accident? they don't? seems to me like without a car it's going to be hard for the iraqi to steal, and when he tells his friends that "those americans crushed my car when they caught me looting" it might make iraq a little better place. also, i see nothing wrong with enjoying your job.

But I still didn't saw jury or judge anywere near?

Operation Ivy
04-06-2004, 11:50 AM
Dont steal ;)when US tankers watching ;)

Correct ;)

spoonman
04-06-2004, 11:51 AM
But I still didn't saw jury or judge anywere near?

do you have a point?

Operation Ivy
04-06-2004, 11:54 AM
Also wouldnt the man get money for a new car anyway because if anything was destroyed by the Americans he would have a chance to get his money back and thus get a new car and be happy :D

Herrmannek
04-06-2004, 12:00 PM
But I still didn't saw jury or judge anywere near?

do you have a point?

My point is at they made decission with don't belong to them, I don't know how to explain to you that justice made in that way isn't right, even if I would try explain it to you wouldn't undestand, just go the the country where law hasn't so high standards like in US or Europe, and you will see what I'm talking about...

OldRecon
04-06-2004, 12:41 PM
Well, if some of you guys should ever be looking for an illustrating example of a hearts and minds disaster, you definitely have it here. :(
But anyway I guess it's nice to actually watch some of those f***in ragheads suffer for once for all the bad they do? (or something like that if I understand the moods initialy aired under this thread).
One thing's for shure those hood boys in uniform will never make it into SF (hopefully :roll: ), or they would have to mature a lot.
Only someone **** scared of ragheads could find anything funny in this vid'.

Uncle Chô
04-06-2004, 12:43 PM
I wonder if you would have said the same if it where European tankers... :bash:
I don't think it would have had happened with the British troops for example. European armies rules would have not allowed such a stupid attitude.

This video* is indeed fun to watch but those young soldiers/tankers just acted as kids and not as professional soldiers (the "gun shooting" à la Bad Boys is just f**** ridiculous).

Hundreds of little incidents and cultural mistakes like these made the inhabitants angry and cautious of American troops. It is one of the many reasons why the US fell to win hearts and minds right after the fall of Baghdad.

* it could be a fake also

Jurgen
04-06-2004, 12:59 PM
don't loot!
HOOAH!
Never saw the vid, but I loved it!
woot

Ralf174978
04-06-2004, 01:39 PM
The day will come, on which the occupying forces and aggressors will pay for their behavior. :roll:

MaDuce
04-06-2004, 02:24 PM
The day will come, on which the occupying forces and aggressors will pay for their behavior. :roll:

You would like that wouln't you dead Amercians make your innerchild smile. What happened to I disagree with the war on Iraq. You should like a Mullah. Well anyways his taxi was not lincensed anyways altough thsose tankers deserve to be disciplined

Salty Dog
04-06-2004, 02:58 PM
"we try to stop them from lootin,they don't understand, so we'll take their car and crush it...united sates army tankers hooah"


i have never seen this video before, and i am not sure what exactly i think of it :| it's pretty ridiculous that they would do that, and before...unloading pistol magazines into it....... :cantbeli:

NeedsABetterName
04-06-2004, 08:22 PM
Somewhere I read "Thou shalt not steal"....

OldRecon
04-06-2004, 08:34 PM
"we try to stop them from lootin,they don't understand, so we'll take their car and crush it...united sates army tankers hooah"


i have never seen this video before, and i am not sure what exactly i think of it :| it's pretty ridiculous that they would do that, and before...unloading pistol magazines into it....... :cantbeli:

When confronting locals during patrols/VCPs...

1) Language skills allways come handy
2) Be patient, yet firm and never budge in matters of rule bending. If you give them the tip of your finger, they'll swallow the rest of your hand in no time if your not awake.
3) Try allways to work in pairs. 2 gives more authority than 1, even if confronted persons are more than 1-2.
4) Be firm but calm. If subject won't back off, go from calm and low voiced to angry in an outward show of explosive roar and back to calm again.
Use the shock effect to dominate opposition to get it to back down.
5) Avoid addressing subjects with derogatory remarks like SOB, you scumbag...etc.
6) Ability to put on a smile often reduce tension in the most unlikely situations.

That's my impression from Lebanon peacekepping at least.

Truthsayer
04-06-2004, 08:47 PM
This has been up before, and it's still a sad example of what happends when un-educated personell take on jobs they are not there for.

Crushing a car used for stealing = common practise.

Shooting up the cars with your handguns hood-style and having a blast infront of the kid about it = unproffesional.


Maybe they should take some hints from Kosovo and the peace-keeping forces there.

shrek
04-06-2004, 11:18 PM
OK


A show of hands, how many of you dumnasses think that this is real?

That many huh?


Numbnuts!!

OldRecon
04-07-2004, 02:58 AM
OK


A show of hands, how many of you dumnasses think that this is real?

That many huh?


Numbnuts!!

Well, message may perhaps be out of context to what actualy happened.
But it's obviously shot on location
Maybe they paid the owner to smash up the car?
Yet the action doesn't seem to have taken place within base.
Maybe the tanker were stitched up (they don't appear to be too bright)?
They should at least have been aware, given the location where action was filmed, that it could be used to convey the wrong sort of message.
If there had been a lot of peope standing around watching, it would immediately have been obvious it was some sort of show off demonstration and message in movie thus out of context. Yet there aren't that many soldiers or civilians standing around watching.
Seems someone perhaps have been really had here?

OldRecon
04-07-2004, 04:12 AM
Looking at it a third time, it has some air of David Letterman gag about it.
Still no f***in' funny, and pretty racist in US domestic terms also.
Can allmost hear that bastard excuse himself after the clip:
"Did you see that? Yo don't steal! Yeah ha, ha, ha... and how thit the owner of the car take it? Weeell we paid him a decent amount of money for it you know.... How much?...Well think we paid him the equivalent to xxx$ for the car... Wow xxx$! That isn't to bad.... Think he pretty much ripped you off there?..... blah, blah, blah.

OldRecon
04-07-2004, 04:15 AM
Looking at it a third time, it has some air of David Letterman gag about it.
Still no f***in' funny, and pretty racist in US domestic terms also.
Can allmost hear that bastard excuse himself after the clip:
"Did you see that? Yo don't steal! Yeah! Ha, ha, ha... (applaus from audience)... And how did the owner of the car take it? Weeell we paid him a decent amount of money for it you know.... How much?...Well think we paid him the equivalent to xxx$ actually... Wow xxx$! That isn't to bad. Actually think he pretty much ripped you off there?..... blah, blah, blah.

OldRecon
04-07-2004, 04:18 AM
Looking at it a third time, it has some air of David Letterman gag about it.
Still no f***in' funny, and pretty racist in US domestic terms also.
Can allmost hear that bastard excuse himself after the clip:
"Did you see that? Yo don't steal! Yeah! Ha, ha, ha... (applaus from audience)... And how did the owner of the car take it? Weeell we paid him a decent amount of money for it you know.... How much?...Well think we paid him the equivalent to xxx$ actually... Wow xxx$! That isn't to bad. Actually think he pretty much ripped you off there?..... blah, blah, blah.

OldRecon
04-07-2004, 04:21 AM
OK


A show of hands, how many of you dumnasses think that this is real?

That many huh?


Numbnuts!!

Well, message may perhaps be out of context to what actualy happened.
But it's obviously shot on location
Maybe they paid the owner to smash up the car?
Yet the action doesn't seem to have taken place within base.
Maybe the tanker were stitched up (they don't appear to be too bright)?
They should at least have been aware, given the location where action was filmed, that it could be used to convey the wrong sort of message.
If there had been a lot of peope standing around watching, it would immediately have been obvious it was some sort of show off demonstration and message in movie thus out of context. Yet there aren't that many soldiers or civilians standing around watching.
Seems someone perhaps have been really had here?

Looking at it a third time, it has some air of David Letterman gag about it.
Still no f***in' funny, and pretty racist in US domestic terms also.
Can allmost hear that bastard excuse himself after the clip:
"Did you see that? Yo don't steal! Yeah! Ha, ha, ha... (applaus from audience)... And how did the owner of the car take it? Weeell we paid him a decent amount of money for it you know.... How much?...Well think we paid him the equivalent to xxx$ actually... Wow xxx$! That isn't to bad. Actually think he pretty much ripped you off there?..... blah, blah, blah.

OldRecon
04-07-2004, 04:23 AM
Looking at it a third time, it has some air of David Letterman gag about it.
Still no f***in' funny, and pretty racist in US domestic terms also.
Can allmost hear that bastard excuse himself after the clip:
"Did you see that? Yo don't steal! Yeah! Ha, ha, ha... (applaus from audience)... And how did the owner of the car take it? Weeell we paid him a decent amount of money for it you know.... How much?...Well think we paid him the equivalent to xxx$ actually... Wow xxx$! That isn't to bad. Actually think he pretty much ripped you off there?..... blah, blah, blah.

OldRecon
04-07-2004, 04:24 AM
Looking at it a third time, it has some air of David Letterman gag about it.
Still no f***in' funny, and pretty racist in US domestic terms also.
Can allmost hear that bastard excuse himself after the clip:
"Did you see that? Yo don't steal! Yeah! Ha, ha, ha... (applaus from audience)... And how did the owner of the car take it? Weeell we paid him a decent amount of money for it you know.... How much?...Well think we paid him the equivalent to xxx$ actually... Wow xxx$! That isn't to bad. Actually think he pretty much ripped you off there?..... blah, blah, blah.

OldRecon
04-07-2004, 04:54 AM

Tengu
04-07-2004, 09:48 AM
Anyway IF this is not a fake it is an outrage.

why?

you are looting + looking is illegal = we crush your car, bitch.

oh. wait a minute. i know why it is an outrage; because it involves americans doing things in iraq!

thus, it must be bad. those americans are never good. savages reallyIf this video is not a fake (notice the "IF"); the CO will have their ass i'm sure. Also notice they are steeling wood and they crush the car with the wood on it.

And don't talk to me like a hippie, I am a GREAT supporter of the war in iraq. I would like to see some punishment but one that does not get in the way of the "winning the hearts and minds" objective.

Herrmannek
04-07-2004, 09:49 AM
Anyway IF this is not a fake it is an outrage.

why?

you are looting + looking is illegal = we crush your car, bitch.

oh. wait a minute. i know why it is an outrage; because it involves americans doing things in iraq!

thus, it must be bad. those americans are never good. savages reallyIf this video is not a fake (notice the "IF"); the CO will have their ass i'm sure. Also notice they are steeling wood and the crush the car with the wood on it.

And don't talk to me like a hippie, I am a GREAT supporter of the war in iraq. I would like to see some punishment but one that does not get in the way of the "winning the hearts and minds" objective.

Agree

OldRecon
04-07-2004, 11:08 AM
Seems I had some problems with the input here rofl.

How do I remove postings here?
Think the first one of the many repeats will do

Herrmannek
04-07-2004, 11:10 AM
Seems I had some problems with the input here rofl.

How do I remove postings here?
Think the first one of the many repeats will do

You can't now, You can only delete your post if noone replied

wormie
04-08-2004, 02:15 AM
Just think about it all this way.... If Saddam caught them looting... they'd be tortured to death... and their family would be executed.

"sniper" tom
04-08-2004, 09:06 AM
and thats how you get riots :bash: ( dont know if its spelled correctly )