PMCs defend US HQ in Najaf

[UkrainianAmerican]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53059-2004Apr5.html


An attack by hundreds of Iraqi militia members on the U.S. government’s headquarters in Najaf on Sunday was repulsed not by the U.S. military, but by eight commandos from a private security firm, according to sources familiar with the incident.

Before U.S. reinforcements could arrive, the firm, Blackwater Security Consulting, sent in its own helicopters amid an intense firefight to resupply its commandos with ammunition and to ferry out a wounded Marine, the sources said.

The role of Blackwater’s commandos in Sunday’s fighting in Najaf illuminates the gray zone between their formal role as bodyguards and the realities of operating in an active war zone. Thousands of armed private security contractors are operating in Iraq in a wide variety of missions and exchanging fire with Iraqis every day, according to informal after-action reports from several companies.

In Sunday’s fighting, Shiite militia forces barraged the Blackwater commandos, four MPs and a Marine gunner with rocket-propelled grenades and AK-47 fire for hours before U.S. Special Forces troops arrived. A sniper on a nearby roof apparently wounded three men. U.S. troops faced heavy fighting in several Iraqi cities that day.

The Blackwater commandos, most of whom are former Special Forces troops, are on contract to provide security for the U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) in Najaf.

With their ammunition nearly gone, a wounded and badly bleeding Marine on the rooftop, and no reinforcement by the U.S. military in the immediate offing, the company sent in helicopters to drop ammunition and pick up the Marine.


Now my question is why the 8 PMCs along with MPs and a Marine didnt receive US military assistance for HOURS, but had to COMPLETELY rely on lifesavers from Blackwater?
Is there a shortage of conventional forces?

[Soulhunter]

good question

[mustamato]

"Sent in its own helicopters"? Like wtf?

[UkrainianAmerican]

"Sent in its own helicopters"? Like wtf?
Yes Blackwater operates helicopters to transport personnel and, in this case, supplies and medevac services.

[mustamato]

"Sent in its own helicopters"? Like wtf?
Yes Blackwater operates helicopters to transport personnel and, in this case, supplies and medevac services.

Having private companies with mercenaries (I use that term because I assume
that the Iraqis see them as that), is probably not a way to make Iraqis love the
occupation. Giving private citizens some sort of license to kill, it feels wrong.

[UkrainianAmerican]

"Sent in its own helicopters"? Like wtf?
Yes Blackwater operates helicopters to transport personnel and, in this case, supplies and medevac services.

Having private companies with mercenaries (I use that term because I assume
that the Iraqis see them as that), is probably not a way to make Iraqis love the
occupation. Giving private citizens some sort of license to kill, it feels wrong.
Yeah, damn those mercs.
How DARE they protect food convoys and US HQ?!
MURDERERS!

[mustamato]

I wonder if Blackwater has medals as well. "Here Mr X, you are awarded the
Iron Cross of the 2nd class for valiantly defending America and our company
from those savages".

[UkrainianAmerican]

I wonder if Blackwater has medals as well. "Here Mr X, you are awarded the
Iron Cross of the 2nd class for valiantly defending America and our company
from those savages".
:roll:

[HELEX]

I think they get a Bonus or something, no medals. ;)

Btw. they get from 600-1200$ a day, not that bad....

[XASA]

I wonder if Blackwater has medals as well. "Here Mr X, you are awarded the
Iron Cross of the 2nd class for valiantly defending America and our company
from those savages".

Unlike the Finns who fought in WWII on the side of the Nazis, I don't think Blackwater has any ties to a brutal, repressive ally like Hitler's Germany.

Man, the "boo birds" are really coming out. When you read the latest postings of people like mustamato and others who are against the war-- which I don't find fault with-- it seems like they actually would like the U.S. to leave Iraq to murderers like Sadr and are cheering on the insurgents, which I think is heinous.

It's the same old song: Whenever coalition losses are noted, they cheer on the Baathists and other fanatics; however, when Americans persevere they are labelled as being bad guys.

Where were all these European naysayers when Hussein was brutally suppressing the Shiite majority?

Now that democracy has been introduced to Iraq, the right to demonstrate has been allowed. What hasn't been allowed is the murder of those in your own religion just because you disagree with them, and armed uprising to promote your own selfish ends. These uprising arn't about Iraqis rejecting democracy but about a young religious zealot making a political move for more power within his own sect and, he's hoping, the country.

I know our friends across the waters won't give it a break and we will continue to be bombarded with lengthy posts on how they would run the world but, hey, newsflash, you are too impotent to make a change even in your own country let alone on the world stage, so get over it.

Until then, I am going to take the advice of many here by simply ignoring the anti-American rants and would suggest our younger patriotic forum members to refrain from getting into pissing matches with them because that is what they want. They are turned on by insulting America and starting flame wars. Let them stroke each others fragile egos and see how long they can entertain each other.

[UkrainianAmerican]

I think they get a Bonus or something, no medals. ;)

Btw. they get from 600-1200$ a day, not that bad....
WEll if 8 of them can hold out against hundreds for HOURS, then they dont NEARLY get enough for their professionalism.
(They probably had a LOT of chances to "bounce", but they chose to stay and face overwhelming odds)
If they were doing it just to pay their mortgage, Tthey probably would run away.

[Haiw]

Just don't throw in mustamato with the rest of the Europeans okay XASA? :)

P.S. what's all the fuss about; the guys were there to provide security for a building, the Iraqis attacked, they did their job. That's it.

[HELEX]

WEll if 8 of them can hold out against hundreds for HOURS, then they dont NEARLY get enough for their professionalism.
(They probably had a LOT of chances to "bounce", but they chose to stay and face overwhelming odds)
If they were doing it just to pay their mortgage, Tthey probably would run away.

All of them are better trained and have more experience than the young soldiers there, no doubt.
But they were surrounded, no chance to run away. Everyboy will fight to death under this conditions, surrender will be worse than death....

[MARINO]

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11679

look there

[XASA]

Just don't throw in mustamato with the rest of the Europeans okay XASA? :)

P.S. what's all the fuss about; the guys were there to provide security for a building, the Iraqis attacked, they did their job. That's it.

No Haiw, I don't consider all Europeans to be in the same boat. If I gave that impression, I apologize. I was referring to Europeans who post the same old song day after day without contributing anything else to the forum. They know who they are.

[mustamato]

Man, the "boo birds" are really coming out. When you read the latest postings of people like mustamato and others who are against the war-- which I don't find fault with-- it seems like they actually would like the U.S. to leave Iraq to murderers like Sadr and are cheering on the insurgents, which I think is heinous.

That with medals was of course more of a joke. But of course US, or erhm,
"the coalition" should not leave Iraq now. Alea jacta est as Ceasar said when
he crossed the river.

[UkrainianAmerican]

WEll if 8 of them can hold out against hundreds for HOURS, then they dont NEARLY get enough for their professionalism.
(They probably had a LOT of chances to "bounce", but they chose to stay and face overwhelming odds)
If they were doing it just to pay their mortgage, Tthey probably would run away.

All of them are better trained and have more experience than the young soldiers there, no doubt.
But they were surrounded, no chance to run away. Everyboy will fight to death under this conditions, surrender will be worse than death....
Um not to get technical, but if they could hold out for that long against RIDICULOUS odds, without any fatalities, I think they could manage to jump into a nice Rover under machine gun cover from taht marine, and speed away, if that was the choice they made.

[mustamato]

WEll if 8 of them can hold out against hundreds for HOURS, then they dont NEARLY get enough for their professionalism.
(They probably had a LOT of chances to "bounce", but they chose to stay and face overwhelming odds)
If they were doing it just to pay their mortgage, Tthey probably would run away.

All of them are better trained and have more experience than the young soldiers there, no doubt.
But they were surrounded, no chance to run away. Everyboy will fight to death under this conditions, surrender will be worse than death....
Um not to get technical, but if they could hold out for that long against RIDICULOUS odds, without any fatalities, I think they could manage to jump into a nice Rover under machine gun cover from taht marine, and speed away, if that was the choice they made.

Why would they do that? Were would they drive?

[UkrainianAmerican]

WEll if 8 of them can hold out against hundreds for HOURS, then they dont NEARLY get enough for their professionalism.
(They probably had a LOT of chances to "bounce", but they chose to stay and face overwhelming odds)
If they were doing it just to pay their mortgage, Tthey probably would run away.

All of them are better trained and have more experience than the young soldiers there, no doubt.
But they were surrounded, no chance to run away. Everyboy will fight to death under this conditions, surrender will be worse than death....
Um not to get technical, but if they could hold out for that long against RIDICULOUS odds, without any fatalities, I think they could manage to jump into a nice Rover under machine gun cover from taht marine, and speed away, if that was the choice they made.

Why would they do that? Were would they drive?
They could do that because they are "heartless and selfish mercenaries" who dont give a **** about their countrymen in uniform.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Until then, I am going to take the advice of many here by simply ignoring the anti-American rants and would suggest our younger patriotic forum members to refrain from getting into pissing matches with them because that is what they want.
XASA it is a minority of 5 at the most who indulge in anti American rhetoric while during the EU / French Suck period last year there was a greater number of US forum members slinging Poo while an even greater number of US forum members sat back and said nothing whether this was due to apathy or agreement I do not know.


our younger patriotic forum members to refrain from getting into pissing matches with them because that is what they want.
These younger patriotic forum members are the ones that cause most of the stink round here.


I know our friends across the waters won't give it a break and we will continue to be bombarded with lengthy posts on how they would run the world but, hey, newsflash, you are too impotent to make a change even in your own country let alone on the world stage, so get over it.
So far XASA the above statement is as out of character as I have seen from you so far, don't let them get you down whatever happens.:)

[UkrainianAmerican]

Until then, I am going to take the advice of many here by simply ignoring the anti-American rants and would suggest our younger patriotic forum members to refrain from getting into pissing matches with them because that is what they want.
XASA it is a minority of 5 at the most who indulge in anti American rhetoric while during the EU / French Suck period last year there was a greater number of US forum members slinging Poo while an even greater number of US forum members sat back and said nothing whether this was due to apathy or agreement I do not know.


our younger patriotic forum members to refrain from getting into pissing matches with them because that is what they want.

These younger patriotic forum members are the ones that cause most of the stink round here.

I know our friends across the waters won't give it a break and we will continue to be bombarded with lengthy posts on how they would run the world but, hey, newsflash, you are too impotent to make a change even in your own country let alone on the world stage, so get over it.
So far XASA the above statement is as out of character as I have seen from you so far, don't let them get you down whatever happens.:)
If that was directed at me, I dont see how I did anything offensive in this thread, despite mustamatos flame-baits.

[Haiw]

Nah...it was directed at mustaHELEX.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Until then, I am going to take the advice of many here by simply ignoring the anti-American rants and would suggest our younger patriotic forum members to refrain from getting into pissing matches with them because that is what they want.
XASA it is a minority of 5 at the most who indulge in anti American rhetoric while during the EU / French Suck period last year there was a greater number of US forum members slinging Poo while an even greater number of US forum members sat back and said nothing whether this was due to apathy or agreement I do not know.


our younger patriotic forum members to refrain from getting into pissing matches with them because that is what they want.

These younger patriotic forum members are the ones that cause most of the stink round here.

I know our friends across the waters won't give it a break and we will continue to be bombarded with lengthy posts on how they would run the world but, hey, newsflash, you are too impotent to make a change even in your own country let alone on the world stage, so get over it.
So far XASA the above statement is as out of character as I have seen from you so far, don't let them get you down whatever happens.:)
If that was directed at me, I dont see how I did anything offensive in this thread, despite mustamatos flame-baits.

Nah youre off the hook on this one Russian American, your not that bloody young who are you trying to fool.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Nah...it was directed at mustaHELEX.
Nope directed at all of the "younger patriotic forum members".

[UkrainianAmerican]

Nah...it was directed at mustaHELEX.
hmm, they dont give an impression of being patriotic.

[XASA]

Until then, I am going to take the advice of many here by simply ignoring the anti-American rants and would suggest our younger patriotic forum members to refrain from getting into pissing matches with them because that is what they want.
XASA it is a minority of 5 at the most who indulge in anti American rhetoric while during the EU / French Suck period last year there was a greater number of US forum members slinging Poo while an even greater number of US forum members sat back and said nothing whether this was due to apathy or agreement I do not know.


our younger patriotic forum members to refrain from getting into pissing matches with them because that is what they want.
These younger patriotic forum members are the ones that cause most of the stink round here.


I know our friends across the waters won't give it a break and we will continue to be bombarded with lengthy posts on how they would run the world but, hey, newsflash, you are too impotent to make a change even in your own country let alone on the world stage, so get over it.
So far XASA the above statement is as out of character as I have seen from you so far, don't let them get you down whatever happens.:)

How many anti-France postings have you read lately? There were many of us, myself included, who took on idiots like Sixgun and George W. Bush. Go back and read some of those threads if you think we ignored their badmouthing.

As I said in an earlier post, I am not and never intended to lump all Europeans together. Having been stationed and lived in Europe for several years, I have nothing but respect for them. I was referring to Europeans who are littering militaryphotos.net with political spam at an increasing rate. Their biggest crime is that it is repetitive and boring.

[Haiw]

Nah...it was directed at mustaHELEX.
hmm, they dont give an impression of being patriotic.
I thought you were talking about XASAs post, my bad.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

There has been very few anti France post in recent times but I did refer to the period last year when it was common place to see anti France tirades from Americans, I am aware that certain Americans defended the French but they were few in number.
There are more than a few Americans littering the forums with rhetoric and spam I think it would be hard to apportion blame for these acts. I bear no malice in my heart for Americans but many on this forum have dirty hands when it comes to nationalistic rhetoric and insults.

[Haiw]

True. I gotta give XASA credit though that he's not one of those and clearly expressed his 'concern' about Sixgun and American brethren. ;)

[XASA]

There has been very few anti France post in recent times but I did refer to the period last year when it was common place to see anti France tirades from Americans, I am aware that certain Americans defended the French but they were few in number.
There are more than a few Americans littering the forums with rhetoric and spam I think it would be hard to apportion blame for these acts. I bear no malice in my heart for Americans but many on this forum have dirty hands when it comes to nationalistic rhetoric and insults.

Two wrongs don't make a right regardless of nationality. Those Americans you refer to were usually very young and immature, and were initially attracted to militaryphotos.net because it was "cool" (the airsoft bleedover). The Mods have done a great job of maintaining some sense of decorum and their rhetoric has, for the most part subsided, or is immediately challenge. The recent banning of George W. Bush is a good example that xenophobic, racist rants will not be tolerated regardless of one's political background.

My point is that there is nothing wrong in raising issues about the War in Iraq. My problem is that some here seem to revel in American losses (the ode thread that was just locked is the prime example). They are also, for the most part, repetitive and add nothing to the debate.

I have repeatedly said that I think it was a war that didn't have to be fought; however, now that we are involved, it has to be resolved in a manner that will not be detrimental to the Iraqis or the Americans stationed there.

You see, I'm biased in one regard, I fought in a war that wasn't supported by the American people and we Vietnam Veterans bore the brunt of that criticism even though we had nothing to do with the policy that put us there. Once the soldiers, marines, sailors and airmen are safely back home, you can rant all you want. Until then, I'm going to call it like I see it.

[California Joe]

Frankly it was a very impressive defense against considerable odds. Mini Rourke's Drift.

[Ballistic]

Frankly it was a very impressive defense against considerable odds. Mini Rourke's Drift.

Considering what happened to their fellow comrades not long ago, I doubt they were willing to give up at all and I'm glad they did'nt. True warriors.

Im under the impression they all made it out ok ?? If so I'm glad they did.

[cold0]

Nah...it was directed at mustaHELEX.

:D :D :D :D

[UkrainianAmerican]

Frankly it was a very impressive defense against considerable odds. Mini Rourke's Drift.

Considering what happened to their fellow comrades not long ago, I doubt they were willing to give up at all and I'm glad they did'nt. True warriors.

Im under the impression they all made it out ok ?? If so I'm glad they did.
Right on! woot

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Those Americans you refer to were usually very young and immature, and were initially attracted to militaryphotos.net because it was "cool" (the airsoft bleedover).
The following link will show just how bad the anti French attitude is a fair amount of the posters could be classed as adults.
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8397&start=0&sid=dc335c2243428537d0846c3599bee0e7


The Mods have done a great job of maintaining some sense of decorum and their rhetoric has, for the most part subsided, or is immediately challenge.
I agree there has been a lot of progress, I only hope it improve further I would like to see an end to the anti-Muslim, Arab, French, American and Euro posts.:)

[Argyll]

All these asholes who think they know all about the roles of PMC's within Iraq,and come here and post utter ****e need to shut the fok up bigtime.
If I was a soldier under fire I'd much rather have a handfull of PMC's beside me than ,than fok all at all!!
The pair of you............you know who you are ,need to shut the traps tight,as you're talking through pubic hair........lots of it,quit yer fokin gloating about Iraq,or get the fok out of this forum.....you're pissing people off............and that includes me!

[HELEX]

@Argyll


All these asholes who think they know all about the roles of PMC's within Iraq,and come here and post utter ****e need to shut the fok up bigtime.
If I was a soldier under fire I'd much rather have a handfull of PMC's beside me than ,than fok all at all!!
The pair of you............you know who you are ,need to shut the traps tight,as you're talking through pubic hair........lots of it,quit yer fokin gloating about Iraq,or get the fok out of this forum.....you're pissing people off............and that includes me!

Can you remember, beeing Moderator means you have to be moderate....

[Argyll]

Feeling guilty are we?

And you are an expert in these PMC's,tactics ,weapons etc?

No?.....................I rest my case

Oh and who the hell are you to tell me my Job here on these forums?

[XASA]

Feeling guilty are we?

And you are an expert in these PMC's,tactics ,weapons etc?

No?.....................I rest my case

Helex, being the egocentric that he is, thought you were referring to him when you wrote "asshole" so you really can't blame him for responding Argyll ;)

[UkrainianAmerican]

All these asholes who think they know all about the roles of PMC's within Iraq,and come here and post utter ****e need to shut the fok up bigtime.
If I was a soldier under fire I'd much rather have a handfull of PMC's beside me than ,than fok all at all!!
The pair of you............you know who you are ,need to shut the traps tight,as you're talking through pubic hair........lots of it,quit yer fokin gloating about Iraq,or get the fok out of this forum.....you're pissing people off............and that includes me!
x2.5 woot

[TALOS]

@Argyll


All these asholes who think they know all about the roles of PMC's within Iraq,and come here and post utter ****e need to shut the fok up bigtime.
If I was a soldier under fire I'd much rather have a handfull of PMC's beside me than ,than fok all at all!!
The pair of you............you know who you are ,need to shut the traps tight,as you're talking through pubic hair........lots of it,quit yer fokin gloating about Iraq,or get the fok out of this forum.....you're pissing people off............and that includes me!

Can you remember, beeing Moderator means you have to be moderate....
ummm actually it means that he moderates the forum or in other words, doesnt allow people to ruin it with BS, keeps it on even keel.
Proper reasoned disagreements dont receive the attention that anti everything rants do.<not aimed at any one group.

[Argyll]

Feeling guilty are we?

And you are an expert in these PMC's,tactics ,weapons etc?

No?.....................I rest my case

Helex, being the egocentric that he is, thought you were referring to him when you wrote "asshole" so you really can't blame him for responding Argyll ;)


rofl

[Fox2]

Question for anyone with the knowledge, as I am genuinely interested: What sort of helicopters do the PMCs employ? Just your typical civilian Gen-Av stuff? Bell JetRangers, newer model Sikorskys?

[James]

Hughes 500s, like MH6 Little Birds...

Fo shizzle.

[Fox2]

Hughes 500s, like MH6 Little Birds...

Fo shizzle.

Ah, Hughes. Cool. Thanks, James.

Wonder if they have any birds fitted with NOTAR... :)

[farmgirl]

Picture that goes along with the article.....

picture credit: CPA

http://www.hpphoto.com/servlet/LinkPhoto?GUID=3f593e3d-7435-5699-7333-8c501f9268d2&size=

[Kitsune]

I think I read somewhere, that the numbers of security company contractors was as high as 25.000 in Iraq. Allegedly the US efforts there are dependant on them. So the whole thing in Nadjaf may not be that surprising.

[TriggerPuller]

All these asholes who think they know all about the roles of PMC's within Iraq,and come here and post utter ****e need to shut the fok up bigtime.
If I was a soldier under fire I'd much rather have a handfull of PMC's beside me than ,than fok all at all!!
The pair of you............you know who you are ,need to shut the traps tight,as you're talking through pubic hair........lots of it,quit yer fokin gloating about Iraq,or get the fok out of this forum.....you're pissing people off............and that includes me! About time!! Thank you!
These 2 jackasses really havent got a clue! while I have some respect for Mustamato's intelligence his inflammatory remarks i.e "mercenaries" are inciteful and completely off base!

Helex you are just a POS!!!

TP

Oh yeah BTW I will be in the ME by this weekend! Guess what I will be doing!

[Fox2]

I think I read somewhere, that the numbers of security company contractors was as high as 25.000 in Iraq. Allegedly the US efforts there are dependant on them. So the whole thing in Nadjaf may not be that surprising.

Yes, as far as I know, they defend assets for the Coalition Provisional Authority and private contractors so that the Coalition nations' militaries can put more resources to patrolling and quelling violence.

So, if they were not there, then many US, British, and other coalition troops would be stuck defending things like oil pipelines or foreign contractors.

[Argyll]

All these asholes who think they know all about the roles of PMC's within Iraq,and come here and post utter ****e need to shut the fok up bigtime.
If I was a soldier under fire I'd much rather have a handfull of PMC's beside me than ,than fok all at all!!
The pair of you............you know who you are ,need to shut the traps tight,as you're talking through pubic hair........lots of it,quit yer fokin gloating about Iraq,or get the fok out of this forum.....you're pissing people off............and that includes me! About time!! Thank you!
These 2 jackasses really havent got a clue! while I have some respect for Mustamato's intelligence his inflammatory remarks i.e "mercenaries" are inciteful and completely off base!

Helex you are just a POS!!!

TP

Oh yeah BTW I will be in the ME by this weekend! Guess what I will be doing!

Bying me a drink at the Rashid?........ ;)

[UkrainianAmerican]

Picture that goes along with the article.....

picture credit: CPA

http://www.hpphoto.com/servlet/LinkPhoto?GUID=3f593e3d-7435-5699-7333-8c501f9268d2&size=
Is that a picture of an actual event? They seem VERY casual, hehe.

[XASA]

[quote=farmgirl]Picture that goes along with the article.....

picture credit: CPA

http://www.hpphoto.com/servlet/LinkPhoto?GUID=3f593e3d-7435-5699-7333-8c501f9268d2&size=
Is that a picture of an actual event? They seem VERY casual, hehe.
/quote]

Not VERY casual but VERY professional. ;) Read the article and you'll see why. BTW, the picture was on the front page of the Washington Post.

[UkrainianAmerican]

[quote=farmgirl]Picture that goes along with the article.....

picture credit: CPA

http://www.hpphoto.com/servlet/LinkPhoto?GUID=3f593e3d-7435-5699-7333-8c501f9268d2&size=
Is that a picture of an actual event? They seem VERY casual, hehe.
/quote]

Not VERY casual but VERY professional. ;) Read the article and you'll see why. BTW, the picture was on the front page of the Washington Post.
Yeah I see what you mean. if I had 8 comrades to back me up agaisnt hundreds I would be pissing my pants while jumping like a headless chicken :)

[Haiw]

About time!! Thank you!
These 2 jackasses really havent got a clue! while I have some respect for Mustamato's intelligence his inflammatory remarks i.e "mercenaries" are inciteful and completely off base!

Helex you are just a POS!!!

TP

Oh yeah BTW I will be in the ME by this weekend! Guess what I will be doing!
Searching for a Mexican ***** bar... in vain. ;)

[TriggerPuller]

All these asholes who think they know all about the roles of PMC's within Iraq,and come here and post utter ****e need to shut the fok up bigtime.
If I was a soldier under fire I'd much rather have a handfull of PMC's beside me than ,than fok all at all!!
The pair of you............you know who you are ,need to shut the traps tight,as you're talking through pubic hair........lots of it,quit yer fokin gloating about Iraq,or get the fok out of this forum.....you're pissing people off............and that includes me! About time!! Thank you!
These 2 jackasses really havent got a clue! while I have some respect for Mustamato's intelligence his inflammatory remarks i.e "mercenaries" are inciteful and completely off base!

Helex you are just a POS!!!

TP

Oh yeah BTW I will be in the ME by this weekend! Guess what I will be doing!

Bying me a drink at the Rashid?........ ;) As good as done!

TP

[TriggerPuller]

About time!! Thank you!
These 2 jackasses really havent got a clue! while I have some respect for Mustamato's intelligence his inflammatory remarks i.e "mercenaries" are inciteful and completely off base!

Helex you are just a POS!!!

TP

Oh yeah BTW I will be in the ME by this weekend! Guess what I will be doing!
Searching for a Mexican ***** bar... in vain. ;)You know me better than I thought!

TP

[MetalBoy]

Frankly it was a very impressive defense against considerable odds. Mini Rourke's Drift.

Considering what happened to their fellow comrades not long ago, I doubt they were willing to give up at all and I'm glad they did'nt. True warriors.

Im under the impression they all made it out ok ?? If so I'm glad they did.

I'm sure they feel lucky that they got to kill so many bad guys. If I was an employee for Blackwater I'd have given anything to be fighting right beside them on that rooftop. woot

[obd]

Wow Argyl, I guess you revert to "squaddie" when you get pissed off hehehehe. Arnt you suppossed to be in Iraq chewing khat by now bro ???

[Argyll]