Picture Request: Weapons found in Iraq

[HELEX]

Before the attack on Iraq there were many statements in the american Press that Russia, China, France and other Countrys opposing the attack had ignored the Sanctions and sold Weapons to Iraq.
But there was never any Proof or Picture of those "new and modern" weapons.

Or has anybody here Pictures showing any modern system newer than say 1989 in Iraq....? I doubt that.

[Seoulstriker]

When I was performing cunninlingus on your mother last night, I found all kinds of interesting things in there, but sorry, no weapons.

[HELEX]

My Mother is dead for years...

[Retard]

I'll have to search for photos. However, the embedded reporters, that I watched during the ground invasion, made it a point to show new munitions from various countries. Some with the date 2002 on the crates. I can remember Jordan, France & China in particular.

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Seoul, so TOOOOOLD!

[Uncle Chô]

I'll have to search for photos. However, the embedded reporters, that I watched during the ground invasion, made it a point to show new munitions from various countries. Some with the date 2002 on the crates. I can remember Jordan, France & China in particular.
Simply BS, don't waste you time.

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I'll have to search for photos. However, the embedded reporters, that I watched during the ground invasion, made it a point to show new munitions from various countries. Some with the date 2002 on the crates. I can remember Jordan, France & China in particular.

and the US aswell, anyhow HELEX is german, try pinning **** on them, better luck next time retard.

[American Patriot]

Wow this HELEX guy is a real piece of work. Of course France and Russia sold billions of dollars worth of weapons to Iraq! For example, Sagger ATGMs and Roland 2 missiles were used to attack American forces.

The U.S. will invade both of these traitorous countries after we make a democratic state out of Iraq. Use your time wisely because it is running out.

[He219]

Or has anybody here Pictures showing any modern system newer than say 1980 in Iraq....? I doubt that.
1980? :lol: That's easy. Try this:


France exported weapons to Iraq in the 1970s and 1980s: Roland 1 missiles and firing systems in 1980-81, Roland 2 missiles and firing systems in 1983-86.......We confirm in particular that there was no export of Roland missiles or parts to Iraq after 1990.
http://www.france.diplomatie.fr/actu/article.gb.asp?ART=34034

http://www.mineaction.ch/customers/svm/svm-web.nsf/search/877d57a16033cd35c1256d44006757df/$FILE/FSD%20in%20Iraq%20_%20Kids%20and%20missiles.jpg

The white tubes are French Roland Missiles. Source (http://www.mineaction.ch/customers/svm/svm-web.nsf/search/c93cb00d404f63cec1256d4400642148)

Polish Troops found these (newer than 1980):
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid82/pc1b0d0cd80afdb8bd752a5f51933625b/fae9e708.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid82/p6b02c60d9dea16b23e6816b5e94e7abd/fae9e70c.jpg


I doubt that
lol

[American Patriot]

Thank you for posting those photographs. I am glad that member HELEX has been converted from apologist socialist to a believer of truth.

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sixgun, is that you?


The U.S. will invade both of these traitorous countries after we make a democratic state out of Iraq. Use your time wisely because it is running out.

rofl sorry I'm lost for words.

[He219]

Not Sixgun, but George W. Bush !

Forum Rule #7:

Don't make multiple accounts for yourself. If it's discovered (it's not difficult) that you have multiple accounts, all of them will be deactivated and most likely your ip subnet banned.

[MolliG]

My Mother is dead for years...
Seoul' is into that stuff... If you know what I mean... ;)

[American Patriot]

Not Sixgun, but George W. Bush !

Hehehe.....
:lol:

George W. Bush is my neighbor. We share the same ISP so we have the same ip block but he is different person.

[He219]

10-4, American Patriot!
;)

The Pot Leaf threw me off....

Carryon!
:D

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Not Sixgun, but George W. Bush !

Hehehe.....
:lol:

George W. Bush is my neighbor. We share the same ISP so we have the same ip block but he is different person.

so if one of you get's banned the other will too? genius.

[n.ignomo]

TO go back to the point : seeing 2003 on something doesn't mean it is from year 2003 AT ALL.

[bertfivesix]

My Mother is dead for years...

Tsk, tsk..they only answer anyone should have given to this was:

"So I guess that's why she didn't move around much."

Way to drop the ball on that one.. :cantbeli:

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Seoul prefers cocks to corpse cunnilingus.

[He219]

TO go back to the point : seeing 2003 on something doesn't mean it is from year 2003 AT ALL.
I did'nt imply that. Those were Roland II's, manufactured in the early 80's. We previously established the 2003 to be the 'Use By Date' ....
;)

[bluered12]

As he said:
seeing 2003 on something doesn't mean it is from year 2003 AT ALL

->

Oct. 4, 2003, 2:31PM

Poland apologizes: French missile story wrong
Associated Press


WARSAW, Poland -- After a protest from French President Jacques Chirac, Poland said today it had been mistaken in reporting that its troops found new French-made anti-aircraft misiles in central Iraq.

Chirac swiftly denied selling Iraq weapons in violation of the U.N. weapons embargo imposed against Saddam Hussein's regime in 1990. The claims, he said, "are as false today as they were yesterday."

An aide to the Polish prime minister said an initial report that the Roland missiles found by Polish troops days ago were produced in 2003 was incorrect. France said it stopped producing any type of Roland missile in 1993.

Prime Minister Leszek Miller met with Chirac twice to explain the mistake, said the aide, Tadeusz Iwinski. The two leaders were in Rome on Saturday for a European Union summit.

"There can be no 2003 missiles since these missiles have not been made for 15 years," Chirac told reporters in Rome. "Polish soldiers confused things. I told ... Miller so frankly -- friendly but firmly."

France used similar arguments to rebut allegations in April that recently made Roland missiles have been found in Iraq.

The report first came in a statement by a ministry spokesman to Polish state television that the troops uncovered French-made Roland missiles in the town of Hilla, in the zone of central Iraq where the Poles lead a peacekeeping force. A ministry statement said the missiles were destroyed Wednesday.

Maj. Andrzej Wiatrowski, a spokesman in Iraq for the Polish-led force, said pictures of the missiles taken before they were destroyed might clear up when they were made.

"That's the job for our superiors. Our job is to recover and destroy dangerous material," Wiatrowski said by satellite phone.

Iwinski said the matter has been settled. "It was wrongly said that the rockets were produced in that year," Iwinski said by telephone from the summit. "President Chirac has accepted Prime Minister Leszek Miller's explanation."

The Polish defense minister, Jerzy Szmajdzinski, "expressed his regrets" for the mistake, a ministry statement said.

France long had close ties to Iraq that included lucrative weapons deals. Paris supplied arms, in exchange for oil, during the eight-year Iran-Iraq war.

In June, an Associated Press reporter traveling with the 3rd Infantry Division found two Roland 2 missile launchers in excellent condition on Habaniyah airfield, 45 miles west of Baghdad. Each launcher had four missiles mounted on it, but both launchers had been flipped onto their sides, apparently in an effort to unload the flatbed trucks on which they were mounted.

At the time, U.S. Army officers said dozens of such missiles had been found on military bases across Iraq and all were believed to have been delivered before July 1990.

The French Foreign Ministry emphasized on Saturday that France has not authorized the sale of weapons, or even spare parts, to Iraq since July 1990, when the United Nations imposed sanctions on weapons sales following Saddam's invasion of Kuwait.

The ministry statement said Roland 1 missiles and launchers were exported to Iraq in 1980-81, while Roland 2 missiles were exported from 1983 to 1986. France stopped making Roland 2s in 1988 and Roland 3s in 1993, it said.

France used similar arguments to rebut allegations in april that recently made Roland missiles have been found in iraq.

The Polish Defense Ministry said the Roland missiles were among about a dozen missiles uncovered near Hilla on Tuesday, including Soviet-made Malutka, French Hot and French-German Milan missiles. The Roland missiles are about 25 feet long, radar-guided and launched from the back of a truck.

The U.S. military found 35 Roland missiles when it captured Baghdad International Airport in April. Roland missiles also were found when Australian troops captured an airfield in western Iraq.

The Web site GlobalSecurity.org says the Roland weapon system is intended for anti-aircraft defense of armored and mechanized the units to counter aircraft flying to nearly at 1 1/2 times the speed of sound or hovering helicopters.


source: http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/special/iraq/2137676

@ He219 sorry didn´t see your second post concerning the subject p-)

[HELEX]

Well, have changed the deadline to 1989. Stupid me.... ;)

[He219]

No problem, bluered12
:hug:

I also had a similar reference in my original post:
http://www.france.diplomatie.fr/actu/article.gb.asp?ART=34034



HELIX, you set yourself up for that one ....
:lol: lol

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ahhh, makes more sense now

[Macs.]

HELEX geh kackn.

[HELEX]

HELEX geh kackn.

Habe ich, was jetzt?

[shrek]

Not related to IRaq but:


CIA agent killed in Afghanistan by, hell, what else, a russian grenade not produced before 2001. Mortars found inmany caves throughout our area, Chinese made and brand friggin' new. Sanction smanction, money talks baby!!


Question: Why do so many people want to defend Iraq? I mean whatthef..k. If any of your countries had a leader like that, you would be begging us to invade and "save you" as we have so many times before, (Russia, France etc.)


Question: Why did the French plant trees along their streets, so the Germans could march in the shade baby.


Heard by me in chow hall in Afgh. :

French Special forces (aka. pre-positioned POW's)

[HELEX]

@shrek


Why do so many people want to defend Iraq? I mean whatthef..k. If any of your countries had a leader like that, you would be begging us to invade and "save you" as we have so many times before, (Russia, France etc.)

Russia and France for example actually "killed" their Goverment once in History because they didnt like it. Why arent the Iraqis allowed to do it by themself? They didnt call the US......

[Haiw]

Not Sixgun, but George W. Bush !

Hehehe.....
:lol:

George W. Bush is my neighbor. We share the same ISP so we have the same ip block but he is different person.

so if one of you get's banned the other will too? genius.
Just ban 'em anyway...just to be sure. Sharing the same ISP with neighbours is the biggest bullcrap story I've ever heard. :roll:
And even IF they shared; you're telling me 2 neighbours tell eachother what they do so that now suddenly the neighbour comes here under a different name while he knows what happened to his neighbour. Gimme a ****ing break. You're insulting my intelligence here. :|

[shrek]

The French "killed" their government because they had the means and the opportunity. When did the Iraqi's have either of these against that tyrant!

[Haiw]

Back in 1991...if they would have gotten support. :roll:

[He219]

Back in 1991...if they would have gotten support. :roll:
You mean the Shiites, Haiw. Without outside intervention, the Shiites had neither the means or the opportunity to overthrow Saddam. A 'No-Fly' Zone was imposed to protect the Iraqi Shiites and Kurds from Saddam's air-forces.

I believe the cause and effect of Gulf War I with it's stated goals as part of a delicate Global Coalition have been debated many a time ....

p-)


Also, the French and Bolshevik Revolutions are hardly an example of a Peaceful transition of power. Similarly, you could debate the merits of forcing a regieme change in Serbia-Montinegro through the effects of military action, yet I don't hear the snivellers complaining about Milosevic being forced from power.

[Haiw]

Shiites are still Iraqis. Yeah, I know they couldn't have done it on their own, but they could have done it if the coalition had supported them back in 1991 instead of stab them in the back. I know I'm kicking the dead horse now, but it just still pisses me off. Soldiers wouldn't be dying in Iraq now if we had supported the uprising back then.

[Early Chow Recruit]

helex my old nazi buddy, is your trite pal chumpy with you ?


Gentlemen please use caution when replying to any of these sandbox posts. It has been proven that this turd is a bonafide troll and his posts are in direct conflict with the guidelines of this forum.



shot over

[He219]

Shiites are still Iraqis. Yeah, I know they couldn't have done it on their own, but they could have done it if the coalition had supported them back in 1991 instead of stab them in the back. I know I'm kicking the dead horse now, but it just still pisses me off. Soldiers wouldn't be dying in Iraq now if we had supported the uprising back then.
Nobody knows what the actual cause and effect would have been. Supporting the Shiites would have disenfranchised the Global Coalition and led to bitter oppositon to forced regieme change by the Arab Partners as the Anti-Iraq action critics charge now.

http://www.defendamerica.mil/images/photos/apr2004/index/ii040604g2.jpg

Besides, Shiites with majority rule and adoptation of a religious theocracy based on the Iranian model is equally a threat now as it would have been then. Lives would still be in jepardy as they are in Afghanistan while safeguarding the establishment of representative governance under a democratic model. Lives will always be in jepardy while defending the principles of democratic rule from those who utilize terror to obligate their monocratic ambitions.

Just my .02, Haiw!
;)

[Haiw]

Well from the way it looks now we're starting to get the same process you described would have happened 10 years ago. No offense, but wouldn't it be better if we'd have saved a lot of casualties on both sides? Besides, the worlds view of the US anno 2004 might have been somewhat...different.