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Geezah
09-22-2006, 10:26 AM
Deaths and injuries from knife stabbings are increasing, according to doctors at one London hospital.

An audit at The Royal London Hospital found a rise in admissions for stabbing injuries over the last decade.

The evidence appears to show that knife injuries are an epidemic, the team told the British Medical Journal.

In London last year there were 1,200 reported stabbings, and 30% of homicides involved a knife, police and Home Office data show.

However, in England and Wales, 6% of all violent crime is knife related - a figure which has remained stable for several years.

Earlier this year, Britain had a five-week amnesty aimed at tackling knife crime - the first of its kind in a decade.

Charles Knowles and colleagues at The Royal London Hospital, which is in east London, analysed data on 309 crime-related knife injuries from a database of all trauma calls from July 2004 to June 2006.

Stabbing statistics

Most of the patients were men, with an average age of 28. The chest was the most common area injured.

Of those injured, 259 were admitted to the hospital, 184 were operated on, and eight died.

When the researchers looked back at data from July 1997, they found the number of stabbings had increased significantly over recent years.

More of the stabbings also required surgical intervention, suggesting increasing severity of injury in recent years too.

Maralyn Woodford of the UK Trauma Audit and Research Network said: "There has been a significant increase in stabbing injuries since 2001. But it has remained at that 2001 level. There has not been a year on year increase since then in the UK."

A Home Office spokeswoman said: "Tackling knife crime is a government priority."

She said they were planning to increase the maximum sentence for carrying a knife in public without good reason from two to four years.

"We will also raise the age limit for buying a knife from 16 to 18 and give head teachers the power to search for pupils with dangerous weapons," she said.

Shadow Home Secretary David Davis said: "This is a direct consequence of Labour's failure to tackle violent crime on our streets.

"The government must now get an urgent grip and act."

Link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/5366544.stm)

Again they are not tackiling the problem, it's not the fault of the knife that some a-holes decides to use it.

I know quite a few people that carry a knife daily, folders normally and as of yet I'm not aware of them using them to commit a crime.

CMNot
09-22-2006, 05:23 PM
Good to see all the media selling fear.

Good job I'm not buying...

annihilation
09-22-2006, 06:09 PM
The solution is to allow people to have guns.

But this will cause gun related injuries to rise too.

So the solution to the gun problem will then to allow people to have gernades......

Asheren
09-22-2006, 07:22 PM
Grenades you say hmm where i can order my gmg :)

Peoples always will find other ways to cause harm to other. You ban guns they will get kinves or baseball bats or chains or crowbars or(insert thing that can be used as a weapon and is not banned in your country).

Hunterhr
09-22-2006, 10:07 PM
The obvious solution is to make stabbing someone illegal.

You could even punish them with community service. Although that seems a tad harsh.

:)

Grumpy Bastard
09-24-2006, 06:32 AM
The obvious solution is to make stabbing someone illegal.

You could even punish them with community service. Although that seems a tad harsh.

:)

Damn if only New Labour had thought of that, surely it wouldn't work!?

I suppose banning knives would make people more creative. Criminals would have to search (not so) far and wide for origninal weapons to use instead as each new item is banned.

Biros, kniting needles, forks... eventually it will be illegal to go out in public carrying a bread stick (could have someones eye out)!

XShipRider
09-24-2006, 09:21 AM
The obvious solution is to make stabbing someone illegal.

You could even punish them with community service. Although that seems a tad harsh.

You're not thinking inside the box..!
Knife registration is the way to go. If that fails, make it illegal to carry a knife
outside the kitchen. Better yet, outlaw knives!

I can see the knife lobby's posters:
If knives are outlawed only outlaws will have knives.

Clubs and bats can't be far behind.

Hunterhr
09-24-2006, 01:35 PM
eventually it will be illegal to go out in public carrying a bread stick (could have someones eye out)!

As it should be! It's won't be too long before the headlines read "Man savagely beaten with day old baguette!"

Belrick
09-24-2006, 07:29 PM
You're not thinking inside the box..!
Knife registration is the way to go. If that fails, make it illegal to carry a knife
outside the kitchen. Better yet, outlaw knives!

I can see the knife lobby's posters:
If knives are outlawed only outlaws will have knives.

Clubs and bats can't be far behind.


Clever man, so smart hiding behind your wall of emotions. Lets see if we can knock it down with logic.

1-If X ammount of people were stabbed, would the number of victims be greater if knives were replaced by firearms? Y/N

2- Do knives have a domestic purpose within society making them a neccessity within life? Y/N

3- What domestic purpose does firearms have? Spreading jam? Carving roasts? Whittling carvings? Chopping up bait?

ZaakM433
09-24-2006, 07:36 PM
3- What domestic purpose does firearms have? Spreading jam? Carving roasts? Whittling carvings? Chopping up bait?

Hunting, killing bad animals, killing bad people, sports, wallhangings, ceremony, tradition...

Geezah
09-24-2006, 08:00 PM
Clever man, so smart hiding behind your wall of emotions. Lets see if we can knock it down with logic.

That's comical coming from you, Mr. Emotion himself.

TacoDelRio
09-24-2006, 09:49 PM
Uh, I'm pretty sure XShipRider was trying to be funny....

My stance, well, maybe we should just ban humans! :):):):)

LaoSexMachine
09-24-2006, 09:50 PM
Where's personal responsibilty?

TacoDelRio
09-24-2006, 09:50 PM
Where's personal responsibilty?

What's that?

LaoSexMachine
09-24-2006, 09:51 PM
What's that?

Exactly. Let's blame inanimate objects.

TacoDelRio
09-24-2006, 09:52 PM
Exactly. Let's blame inanimate objects.

You should, like, become a politician or something.

(I'm sure someone's not going to get this)

Mr.K
09-24-2006, 09:54 PM
Link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/5366544.stm)

Again they are not tackiling the problem, it's not the fault of the knife that some a-holes decides to use it.

I know quite a few people that carry a knife daily, folders normally and as of yet I'm not aware of them using them to commit a crime.
Good thing these a-holes don't have an easy acces to guns. Or you gonna disagree again?

Geezah
09-25-2006, 09:40 AM
Good thing these a-holes don't have an easy acces to guns. Or you gonna disagree again?

Are you joking, criminals already have easy access to firearms, the problem here is the criminal misuse of inanimate objects.

XShipRider
09-25-2006, 12:26 PM
Uh, I'm pretty sure XShipRider was trying to be funny....

My stance, well, maybe we should just ban humans!

Exactly. But some people don't share our sense of humor.:)

Belrick
09-26-2006, 06:41 PM
Hunting, killing bad animals, killing bad people, sports, wallhangings, ceremony, tradition...

You forgot equally valid purposes such as use as paper weights, throwing compititions and clothes hangers.

Though i suspect that you do know the meaning of WITHIN society and was just being sarcastic.

e.g. Armed defenders are TRAINED users of firearms and can accomplish all of your above suggestions without society.

Mastermind
09-26-2006, 09:25 PM
Outlaw the stabbings...that's the best bet...and, knife and sword registration as said above...I'm for that. That should do it, then.

Well, now! On to the next social misfit problem.... MM

sct1886
09-26-2006, 10:04 PM
Clever man, so smart hiding behind your wall of emotions. Lets see if we can knock it down with logic.

1-If X ammount of people were stabbed, would the number of victims be greater if knives were replaced by firearms? Y/N

2- Do knives have a domestic purpose within society making them a neccessity within life? Y/N

3- What domestic purpose does firearms have? Spreading jam? Carving roasts? Whittling carvings? Chopping up bait?

Q1. What is your definition of victim? (Clue mine is not a crimminal injured or killed in the commission of a crime) That is called Darwinism or cleaning house... It helps to dissuade the next fool.
Q2. Yes, knives serve many useful purposes, makinng them a necessity.
Q3. Domestic purpose of a firearm is to protect ones self, family, property and community when necessary.
If you would open your history book and read there are millions in the past and present that wished they owned a firearm for protection. Foolish people make foolish conclusions...

wubanga101
09-26-2006, 10:05 PM
all you have to do is make guns of all kind legal and the stabbings will have a dramatic decrease:roll:

Mastermind
09-29-2006, 11:39 AM
Good thing these a-holes don't have an easy acces to guns. Or you gonna disagree again?

Accordfing to the daily news from GB, apparently, they DO! MM