Shots Fired at Florida Mosque

[Ria]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14972847/


Shots fired at Fla. mosque as Ramadan starts
No injuries reported; police to provide extra patrols

Updated: 6:51 p.m. ET Sept. 23, 2006

MELBOURNE, Fla. - A mosque was hit by gunfire as members inside celebrated the start of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, authorities said Saturday.

No injuries were reported and there were no arrests.

A member of the Islamic Society of Brevard County stepped outside the mosque Friday night to use his cell phone when he heard several gun shots, police said.

The man, who was not immediately identified, took cover behind a wall as several rounds struck the building, police said. He then ran inside and told mosque members, who called police.

Authorities searched the surrounding area for suspects but found none. Police were not releasing many details of the shooting because the investigation was ongoing, spokeswoman Jill Frederiksen said Saturday. Detectives were working to determine a reason for the shooting.

Police will begin extra patrols around the mosque in Melbourne, about 50 miles east-southeast of Orlando.

Ibrahim Hooper, national spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said that while no motive had been determined by police, the shooting fit a pattern of incidents at mosques this year.

A bullet-riddled Quran was left outside a mosque in Chattanooga, Tenn., and an Indiana mosque was vandalized. There were other incidents at mosques in Maine, Arizona and Maryland.

“Worshippers of the mosque would obviously be disturbed if (religion) was the motive for the attack,” Hooper said Saturday.


No motive? uhhhh, ok...
No doubt in my mind it was done by angry people who want revenge against the Muslims. "You mess with us, we mess with you" type of thing. This isn't surprising at all.

[LaoSexMachine]

I think this will go on as long as we fight Islamic extremist.

[rhino]

world is full of stupid people

[Mr.K]

idiots, another proof of responsable gun ownership.

[Bryson C]

world is full of stupid people

And the O/T section allows us to hear about all of them woot

[wubanga101]

at least half of them are in this internet forum...glad noone was hurt.
like ghandi said...an eye for a eye and a tooth for a tooth leaves the world blind and toothless.

[Ria]

I think this will go on as long as we fight Islamic extremist.

This will continue around the world no matter what. Sometimes people don't need a reason; they just hate. But this is definitely caused by people who don't just blame only the extremists...they believe Islam is a violent religion and the people are uncivilized and all terrorists. The same people who call Arabs ragheads.

[LaoSexMachine]

idiots, another proof of responsable gun ownership.


How do you know it was legaly owned or not?



This will continue around the world no matter what. Sometimes people don't need a reason; they just hate. But this is definitely caused by people who don't just blame only the extremists...they believe Islam is a violent religion and the people are uncivilized and all terrorists. The same people who call Arabs ragheads.

Very true, Ria. You are wise for your age.

[signatory]

Florida.. a pretty large amount of attacks down there on jewish sites, I don't really remember details but I believe it was something like 200+ incidents last year.

A quick google found this in recent days:



Wednesday, August 2, 2006

MIAMI BEACH – Four separate acts of anti-Semitic vandalism recently occurred in the Jewish community of South Florida. Two synagogues, Young Israel of Greater Miami and Congregation Shaaray Tefilah, and two stores, Kosher World and Judaic Enterprises, were spray-painted with hate-filled graffiti.

[Mr.K]

How do you know it was legaly owned or not?




Very true, Ria. You are wise for your age.

My feminine intuitionp-). Why would a criminal do something like that. I think its something a true pick-up drivin', football watchin', red blooded terurist' hatin,freedom lovin' 'merican would do. :) Or maybe his teenage son who wants to fight terrorism :)

[wubanga101]

p-) always blame the teenage boyz right?

[LaoSexMachine]

My feminine intuitionp-). Why would a criminal do something like that. I think its something a true pick-up drivin', football watchin', red blooded terurist' hatin,freedom lovin' 'merican would do. :) Or maybe his teenage son who wants to fight terrorism :)


Of course criminals are law abiding citizens that's why they are called criminals.

BTW, why do you hate freedom?

[Mr.K]

Hey i've been a teenager not a long time ago. I blame the hormones, and lack of attention.

[Ria]

hehe...why thank you Ezekiel :) but..




BTW, why do you hate freedom?

Hahah, oooook let's not go there. That's not even a fair question.

[Mr.K]

Of course criminals are law abiding citizens that's why they are called criminals.

BTW, why do you hate freedom?
Freeom of shooting at mosques? I got a better question why there is no letter Q in the word Bread ?

[LaoSexMachine]

It was meant as sarcasm.


People will do stupid shyt no matter what "weapons" they are allowed to have or possess. If it wasn't the shooting it could of been jumping Muslims in the parking lot or spitting ast them in Wal-Mart. So take the firearm out of this equation and they would of still harm Muslims one way or another.

[Mr.K]

lame i really thought you're gonna tell me about the letter Q and Bread :-(. Case closed.

[LaoSexMachine]

Must be a Slavic joke. Sorry.

[Mr.K]

i thought you beleived in cultural divesity p-)

[LaoSexMachine]

Freedom hatin' Canuck.

[Mr.K]

Assimilated xenophobe!p-)

[LaoSexMachine]

OT. What do Russianns feel about Romanians? I have two Romanian families in my neighborhood?

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

I know a few Romainians they seem to be nice people and are pretty easy to get on with, the Poles that I know are not very keen on them though.

[LaoSexMachine]

The families that's in the neighborhood is cool. They are good people. The girls, of age of course, are beautiful.

[rhino]

I know a few Romainians they seem to be nice people and are pretty easy to get on with, the Poles that I know are not very keen on them though.

then the poles you know are not the smartest ones, romanians get mixed up with gypsies a lot

[Thunder]

they believe Islam is a violent religion and the people are uncivilized and all terrorists.
I believe this, apart from them all being terrorists.

Yes.

[Dizer]

Muslims started it on 9/11, hell, even way before against us.

Check out some history books, you'll learn that islam has always attacked the west first. We got a right to defend ourselves.

[Macs.]

Muslims started it on 9/11, hell, even way before against us.

Check out some history books, you'll learn that islam has always attacked the west first. We got a right to defend ourselves.

I hope you realise that what you just said was retarded.


I believe this, apart from them all being terrorists.

Yes.

I agree with that.

Its a very violent religion.

[wubanga101]

I believe this, apart from them all being terrorists.

Yes. it is very violent i also agree


Muslims started it on 9/11, hell, even way before against us.

Check out some history books, you'll learn that islam has always attacked the west first. We got a right to defend ourselves.
I am so glad you know what you are talking about [sarcasm] of course you forget about the inquistion or crusades...d!ck head!:bash:

[pascalywood]

its called selective memory :bash:

[IraGlacialis]

I agree with that.

Its a very violent religion.

So is the Old Testement (especially Joshua), but nobody seems to comment about that.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Muslims started it on 9/11, hell, even way before against us.

Check out some history books, you'll learn that islam has always attacked the west first. We got a right to defend ourselves.I don’t really know what history books you have been reading but the US and the UK were favoured for a very long time by most Muslims the only historical hatred that I have come across is from Egyptian radicals and their followers.

[Macs.]

So is the Old Testement (especially Joshua), but nobody seems to comment about that.

I am not talking about some Write-Ups/Book of that religion, I couldn't care less about that.

I am talking about how the Religion is "lived" today, and I don't know any other Religion which brings up so many violent religion-motivated people.

[IraGlacialis]

I have a friend that went to a Catholic school that was, interestingly, right across the street from a Islamic school.
Apparently, right after 9/11, a lot of parents picking up their childen from the Christian school would make sure to jeer and scream obscenities at the Muslim kids coming out from their school.
<Sarcasm>Very Christian behavior, don't you think?<Sarcasm>

[wubanga101]

they might be christian but that doesnt mean their good christians and stop flame baiting...

[Saranof]

Oh bugger it, [insertethnic/religious group] hates freedom and you must die, ect.

[IraGlacialis]

they might be christian but that doesnt mean their good christians and stop flame baiting...

I was intending for it to be called sarcasm as Jesus told us to "love thy neighbor" and invalidated the "eye for an eye" philosophy put down in Leviticus.
I'm a Christian by the way in case someone thinks I'm a Muslim who thinks everybody is out to get me or an atheist who just hates every religion.

[shocker1]

I have a friend that went to a Catholic school that was, interestingly, right across the street from a Islamic school.
Apparently, right after 9/11, a lot of parents picking up their childen from the Christian school would make sure to jeer and scream obscenities at the Muslim kids coming out from their school.
Very Christian behavior, don't you think?
And how would a Catholic school go over in Saudi Arabia? Be glad you live where they coexist without killing each other. So far.....

[wubanga101]

I was intending for it to be called sarcasm as Jesus told us to "love thy neighbor" and invalidated the "eye for an eye" philosophy put down in Leviticus.
I'm a Christian by the way in case someone thinks I'm a Muslim who thinks everybody is out to get me or an atheist who just hates every religion.
I never said that you were athiest or anything but im just saying evry religon is filled with idiots of some sort

[chauncy republicans]

I am not talking about some Write-Ups/Book of that religion, I couldn't care less about that.

I am talking about how the Religion is "lived" today, and I don't know any other Religion which brings up so many violent religion-motivated people.

So is it the religion, or the people who are violent? Your post suggests that the religion itself is violent, yet in the last part you suggest it's the fault of violent religiously motivated people. For what it's worth a religion does'nt raise people, people raise people. A religion is an intangable creed that somebody lives by. It does'nt show up at your door step uninvited and tell you how to live your life, it's explained and pressed apon you by those that have a part in your up-bringing. When Palistinian children are subject to hatefull anti-jewish television programs it sure as hell is'nt the 'Islamic Faith' that broadcasts these programs. So let me ask you, what makes an apple pie an apple pie? Is it the crust, or the apples on the inside?

Let me also just say that if your perspective on the Muslim world comes from what you see on t.v. your scope of the religion is very narrow.

[Miles.]

Chauncy, I respect your arguments. I'm not sure if it's the "crust or the apple", but I agree with Macs.

It comes in cycles. At the time of the Crusades, Islamic people were advanced in all areas of society, and the Christians were backwards.

[IraGlacialis]

I never said that you were athiest or anything but im just saying evry religon is filled with idiots of some sort

The day that all religions are free from idiots is the day that the human race gets wiped of the face of the earth.
Then the cockroaches and squid will reign supreme and start their own religious wars.

[IraGlacialis]

Chauncy, I respect your arguments. I'm not sure if it's the "crust or the apple", but I agree with Macs.

It comes in cycles. At the time of the Crusades, Islamic people were advanced in all areas of society, and the Christians were backwards.

The question is: when the Islamic world, as a whole, calms down, which group will take the mantle of all-around extremism and backwardness?

[americanbychoice]

I wouldn't blame Islam as the source of the problems... Islam is merely an excuse for the problems, and that the source of these terrorist problems are the socio-economic issues that plague large portions of Dar al-Islam/the Muslim world.

That being said, Islam in general could use a Reformation of its practices IMO... but that's not up to me.

It comes in cycles. At the time of the Crusades, Islamic people were advanced in all areas of society, and the Christians were backwards.I would say that Christians were not necesarily the bad guys during the Crusader period, just as the Muslims are not necessarily the sole source of all that is wrong in this period of Islamofascist behavior.

We can go through the hand-wringing & soul-searching about some so-called "Christian" evil during the Crusades, but if we're the only ones who do the soul-searching & blamestorming towards ourselves, what's the good in it?

We in the West are sometimes very good at blaming "ourselves"... and when I say "ourselves", I mean "portions of our own society that we are not a part of... rather, we have a NIMBY attitude towards self-reform (i.e. it is up to our neighbors to improve so that we can become better)"

/Reformation is easier said than done

[Miles.]

I agree, americanbychoice. I'm just saying that the Islamic faith needs a reformation and that whole region needs a Renaissance just like the West did.

[Dizer]

I agree, americanbychoice. I'm just saying that the Islamic faith needs a reformation and that whole region needs a Renaissance just like the West did.

Dumbass, muslims don't want a reformation and their region don't need a renaissance, they need bombs and a good ass kicking.

[wubanga101]

dizer PPLLLEEEAAASEEE tell me your sarcastic:cantbeli: you sound like my shop teacher.

[Saranof]

I think he's great. He's what makes al qaeda and the likes want to bomb people

[jojo]

Sometimes I do not believe what I am reading. Muslim worldwide have stated very clearly and often that their aim is to turn the whole world into a muslim entity. Am I missing something? These people are latter - day Nazis --and we give them excuses!!!!.

[wubanga101]

blowing the sh!t of muslim cities will not prove anything and will only cause more problems and strengthen muslim anger at us.:roll:. do yourself a favor dizer/jojo go to the history tactics part of the forum and look for "carpet bombing and iraq".

[Papelgod]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14972847/



No motive? uhhhh, ok...
No doubt in my mind it was done by angry people who want revenge against the Muslims. "You mess with us, we mess with you" type of thing. This isn't surprising at all.

*waits for Al-Qaeda to hijack a plane in retaliation*

[titget]

Dumbass, muslims don't want a reformation and their region don't need a renaissance, they need bombs and a good ass kicking.
Every one of your 38 posts have been something stupid, rude or retarded

[Mr.K]

Every one of your 38 posts have been something stupid, rude or retarded
True, someone should discipline the new members, just when i have an impression that "we're all getting along", new members come and start up fires that took several months to extinguish.
This is not an "I hate muslims/americans/russians/jews/pinguins board".

[wubanga101]

Dumbass, muslims don't want a reformation and their region don't need a renaissance, they need bombs and a good ass kicking.
wow so youre a conserative kid into politics...so you know EVERYTHING about muslims right??:bash: :roll:

[Hydro]

True, someone should discipline the new members, just when i have an impression that "we're all getting along", new members come and start up fires that took several months to extinguish.
This is not an "I hate muslims/americans/russians/jews/pinguins board".



Bugger, I'd better take me and my "Galapagos Islanders need a hydrogen bomb up their arse" campaign elsewhere then. :-(

[Miles.]

Dumbass, muslims don't want a reformation and their region don't need a renaissance, they need bombs and a good ass kicking.

You need a good ass kicking. Shut it.

_________________________________

I don't like Islam, but I don't think the average joe in the Middle East is much different from any Westerner. The terrorist financiers and the Islamic fascisti need to be ejected and replaced with representative government.

If the people legitimately elect terrorists or genocidal maniacs, then I'd have a problem.

[chauncy republicans]

Dumbass, muslims don't want a reformation and their region don't need a renaissance, they need bombs and a good ass kicking.

You've got a lot of nerve calling anybody besides yourself a dumbass.