Your Favorite Handgun Cartridges and gun

[Dennis G]

What’s you Favorite Handgun Cartridges and model gun I have listed different calibers that I have fired. If your favorite round not listed please the me.


to many poll options so I had to reduce my list so.

[Dennis G]

My vote goes to the .357 mag I think I have gotten better accuracy with this round

[rob]

why the hell are the acp and the gap in the same group as they are completely different. i wont vote cause i want to vote for the acp but the gap is one of the most unneeded and usless rounds out there. so....

my vote is for the .45 acp. if you update teh poll so that it is separate(its like grouping the 10mm with a .40sw which just shouldnt be done) i will vote untill then you know my choice.

btw, this has been done and no one will win this argument.

[Ratamacue]

.45 ACP. Favorite handgun would probably be the M1911A1.

[crazyman]

oh lord....we all know where this poll is heading.

i happen to like the 1911A1 in .45 ACP. good handgun for the kind of work we're doing in iraq nowadays.

[cavtroop4]

where is the .357 sig. i happened to like that round alot

[SR15]

P14 .45ACP

[James]

.45 ACP in any kind of M1911. I myself have a Colt and Kimber. They are great!

[Dennis G]

yeah i carry a Kimber 1911 .45 I love it.

[Dennis G]

oh lord....we all know where this poll is heading.



I thought I had a good variety of calibers would have had more but can’t have more then ten options

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[dacanadianbomb]

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[HELEX]

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[Gringo]

and where's 9X19mm?

in either case, on the .45 Colt, do u mean 45. LC (used in Colt Peacemaker), I'll vote for that one.

[HELEX]

Only american calibers :cantbeli:

[scoone]

9 x 19 mm NATO, HK USP9
http://www.municion.org/seccionados/9parapoliefectosG.jpg
http://www.municion.org/9para/sbt92.jpg
http://www.municion.org/seccionados/action3marroG.jpg

[HELEX]

Is that a subsonic round?

http://www.municion.org/seccionados/action3marroG.jpg

[-Max-]

H&K USP45 Tactical .45 ACP

[scoone]

It isn't a subsonic bullet, this is a special kind of load, the Ballistic Action Trauma or Blitz Aktion Trauma (BAT) loads developed in Germany and currently in production for use in both Germany and Holland and perhaps other countries. These are solid copper alloy projectiles with a large hollow point filled with a plastic cap to aid feeding in an automatic pistol.When fired, the hole through the bullet allows the barrel pressure to eject the plastic tip and the solid bullet body is designed for the ideal combination of penetration and stopping power.
Another photo; this is called "Action 3" point
http://www.municion.org/seccionados/9x19action3G.jpg

GECO is the german company which manufactures this loads. This load has "hollow point" effects, it's an old load but I like it.

[Spleen]

http://www.with-intent.com/spleen/45.jpg

[Gringo]

http://www.with-intent.com/spleen/45.jpg

wanker.

Bullets kill

[Spleen]

It's called a "joke". You may have heard of them...

[TriggerPuller]

9mm is a .45 set to stun!!

I have aWilson CQB and Springfield Armory TRP FBI version.
In a desert invironment Glock 21 .45

I only use Le Mas BMT rounds.

TP

I have 9mm,.40 S&W,.44 magnums but I prefer the .45 in a combat situation.

[Tributal]

So, the 9 can't come out and play? Oh well, how come the 10mm Auto isn't on there then? It's American, or are metric-named calibers excluded alltogether? And the 40S&W is excluded because the 10mm and the 40S&W share the same projectile? (Funny how the .38 and the .357 got on there in that case.)
:cantbeli:

Seriously though, the 10 and the 40 needs to be on there.

[ibstolidude]

45ACP PYDH


I do however LOVE the 40S&W P226, but I prefer the larger size handgun.

[Gringo]

It's called a "joke". You may have heard of them...

Don't lecture me, mate.

[ibstolidude]

9mm is a .45 set to stun!!

I have aWilson CQB and Springfield Armory TRP FBI version.
In a desert invironment Glock 21 .45

I only use Le Mas BMT rounds.

TP

I have 9mm,.40 S&W,.44 magnums but I prefer the .45 in a combat situation.

Blended Metal
"Death by Ass-shot!"

their new slogan?

[Beowulf]

9mm is a .45 set to stun!!

I have aWilson CQB and Springfield Armory TRP FBI version.
In a desert invironment Glock 21 .45

I only use Le Mas BMT rounds.

TP

I have 9mm,.40 S&W,.44 magnums but I prefer the .45 in a combat situation.

Blended Metal
"Death by Ass-shot!"

their new slogan?
HA! woot

[crazyman]

dennis G, i didnt mean it as a knock on you, just that "whats your favorite handgun/caliber" has been done to death, and it always turns into an argument of .45 vs 9x19. americans love our .45ACP, most europeans love their 9x19....and so on (i'm over-simplifying a TON, so no one get grouchy about the above stereotypes)

[Spleen]

It's called a "joke". You may have heard of them...

Don't lecture me, mate.

Then don't take uncalled for shots at me...

[American Patriot]

It's called a "joke". You may have heard of them...

Don't lecture me, mate.

E-gangsta here.

[ogukuo72]

It isn't a subsonic bullet, this is a special kind of load, the Ballistic Action Trauma or Blitz Aktion Trauma (BAT) loads developed in Germany and currently in production for use in both Germany and Holland and perhaps other countries. These are solid copper alloy projectiles with a large hollow point filled with a plastic cap to aid feeding in an automatic pistol.When fired, the hole through the bullet allows the barrel pressure to eject the plastic tip and the solid bullet body is designed for the ideal combination of penetration and stopping power.
Another photo; this is called "Action 3" point
http://www.municion.org/seccionados/9x19action3G.jpg

GECO is the german company which manufactures this loads. This load has "hollow point" effects, it's an old load but I like it.

http://64.177.53.248/ubb/Forum78/HTML/000583.html

Check out the discussion above. The comments were not too positive.

I had thought that a pure copper round would make a good AP round, but one of the comments was it "sporadically penetrates Level II vests".

[Gringo]

It's called a "joke". You may have heard of them...

Don't lecture me, mate.

Then don't take uncalled for shots at me...

I believe u were the one that 'fired' first

any, I suppose if their is no 9mm I'd go with the .44 Magnum

"I know what you're thinking. Did he fire six shots or only five? Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I've kinda lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?"

[Spleen]

I posted the "Joke" remington ad, just because I think it's funny, and it seemed relevant to the thread. Then you called me a wanker. That's the sequence of events as recorded in this thread ( top of page 2, at least on my display ).

It was meant to be funny, and if you somehow consider it a personal attack, or if anyone else did, then I apologize. It certainly wasn't my intention to insult anyone, just to make a few people laugh. I'll make it abundantly clear right now: I don't think any less of ANYONE who uses 9mm or any other non-.45 round. To each their own. The ad just makes me laugh everytime I see it, that's all.

[Gringo]

I posted the "Joke" remington ad, just because I think it's funny, and it seemed relevant to the thread. Then you called me a wanker. That's the sequence of events as recorded in this thread ( top of page 2, at least on my display ).

It was meant to be funny, and if you somehow consider it a personal attack, or if anyone else did, then I apologize. It certainly wasn't my intention to insult anyone, just to make a few people laugh. I'll make it abundantly clear right now: I don't think any less of ANYONE who uses 9mm or any other non-.45 round. To each their own. The ad just makes me laugh everytime I see it, that's all.

Sorry, I thought it was a 'Pro-American better then everybody else' sort of thing.
Sorry, I miss understood the message.

[TriggerPuller]

9mm is a .45 set to stun!!

I have aWilson CQB and Springfield Armory TRP FBI version.
In a desert invironment Glock 21 .45

I only use Le Mas BMT rounds.

TP

I have 9mm,.40 S&W,.44 magnums but I prefer the .45 in a combat situation.

Blended Metal
"Death by Ass-shot!"

their new slogan? The man who took this shot,BT, is one of my closest buds. He called me right after it happened. I was originally led to this web site because people were doubting the rounds and BT's rep was getting trashed by people who had no idea about him or the ammo and I was sent to defend it and him(not that BT needs it). I wont get into too many specifics except to say it WORKS!!!

TP

P.S arent you glad I stayed? :D

[Flagg]

TP:

I also owned a Glock 21....but what exactly is the desert environment ?

Personally, my ONLY complaint with the piece was the larger than average grip/mag housing.....I found the Sig 220 or a 1911 frame easier for me to hold comfortably

[Korth]

I am wondering how many people here that voted have even used a handgun.

What I notice is that those who use pistols most often prefer the .45 ACP round.

[Webley]

The .454 Casull, .480 Ruger, .50 AE, and .500 Magnum are hunting calibers.

I am thinking that this thread should be about service pistol cartridges.

[Spooky]

.40 and 10mm are my favorite rounds! How can you overlook them? I find they provide the best balance between stopping power, precision, and mag cap. Anyone who has ever fired a pistol loves .45 but I think it's more than what is necessary in many cases. And 9mm feels like a plinking round to me. Now that sofy body armor has become fairly prevalent, 9mm is no longer at all effective.

My vote goes to one of the heavier .40 hollowpoint loads.

[ogukuo72]

9mm is a .45 set to stun!!

I have aWilson CQB and Springfield Armory TRP FBI version.
In a desert invironment Glock 21 .45

I only use Le Mas BMT rounds.

TP

I have 9mm,.40 S&W,.44 magnums but I prefer the .45 in a combat situation.

Blended Metal
"Death by Ass-shot!"

their new slogan? The man who took this shot,BT, is one of my closest buds. He called me right after it happened. I was originally led to this web site because people were doubting the rounds and BT's rep was getting trashed by people who had no idea about him or the ammo and I was sent to defend it and him(not that BT needs it). I wont get into too many specifics except to say it WORKS!!!

TP

P.S arent you glad I stayed? :D

I believe your presence is sorely needed at the Tactical Forum (Terminal Effects Forum). I have not found any good comments on that forum, especially from ballistic experts.

[Herrmannek]

can you give more info about blended netal

[TriggerPuller]

9mm is a .45 set to stun!!

I have aWilson CQB and Springfield Armory TRP FBI version.
In a desert invironment Glock 21 .45

I only use Le Mas BMT rounds.

TP

I have 9mm,.40 S&W,.44 magnums but I prefer the .45 in a combat situation.

Blended Metal
"Death by Ass-shot!"

their new slogan? The man who took this shot,BT, is one of my closest buds. He called me right after it happened. I was originally led to this web site because people were doubting the rounds and BT's rep was getting trashed by people who had no idea about him or the ammo and I was sent to defend it and him(not that BT needs it). I wont get into too many specifics except to say it WORKS!!!

TP

P.S arent you glad I stayed? :D

I believe your presence is sorely needed at the Tactical Forum (Terminal Effects Forum). I have not found any good comments on that forum, especially from ballistic experts. Do you mean tacticalforums.com? I went their also. You see there are some "scientific" naysayers with their own agenda and unless it works in a controlled i.e. gelatin solution they will bash it to no end,never even actually seeing it's damage in live tissue..........I have! And this is why I believe in the ammo because seeing is believing! I have since become friends with the owner of the company and use the ammo exclusively when working.The ammo has been put on display at the Blackwater shootouts and you should see the ease it goes through steel,3A paca vests, and incredibly strong bullet resistant glass!


TP

[Herrmannek]

PLZ GIVE MOR INFO AND/OR LINKS AND/OR PHOTOS....what tha hell is BLENDED METAL...sorry for screaming but noone listen to me here :)

[Tributal]

PLZ GIVE MOR INFO AND/OR LINKS AND/OR PHOTOS....what tha hell is BLENDED METAL...sorry for screaming but noone listen to me here :)Have you checked http://www.tacticalforums.com?

[ibstolidude]

9mm is a .45 set to stun!!

I have aWilson CQB and Springfield Armory TRP FBI version.
In a desert invironment Glock 21 .45

I only use Le Mas BMT rounds.

TP

I have 9mm,.40 S&W,.44 magnums but I prefer the .45 in a combat situation.

Blended Metal
"Death by Ass-shot!"

their new slogan? The man who took this shot,BT, is one of my closest buds. He called me right after it happened. I was originally led to this web site because people were doubting the rounds and BT's rep was getting trashed by people who had no idea about him or the ammo and I was sent to defend it and him(not that BT needs it). I wont get into too many specifics except to say it WORKS!!!

TP

P.S arent you glad I stayed? :D
If you recall I was the one who rebuffed the rediculous claims of it's non-legality, and that it isn't just free to the public w/out regard.
We wanted this crap (had not seen it, only RUMORINT) to play with after A-stan - however it was kind pointless without something to shoot (no energy dump on paper). We then heard stories from friends, eventually reading it in various news articles from Iraq (Army times, etc). The line that I still remember was something like "I have/seen people?/ shot people with all kinds of 5.56, but I have never seen anything like this."

RBCD makes some quality ****! their 90gr 45 ACP is awesome.

[TriggerPuller]

9mm is a .45 set to stun!!

I have aWilson CQB and Springfield Armory TRP FBI version.
In a desert invironment Glock 21 .45

I only use Le Mas BMT rounds.

TP

I have 9mm,.40 S&W,.44 magnums but I prefer the .45 in a combat situation.

Blended Metal
"Death by Ass-shot!"

their new slogan? The man who took this shot,BT, is one of my closest buds. He called me right after it happened. I was originally led to this web site because people were doubting the rounds and BT's rep was getting trashed by people who had no idea about him or the ammo and I was sent to defend it and him(not that BT needs it). I wont get into too many specifics except to say it WORKS!!!

TP

P.S arent you glad I stayed? :D
If you recall I was the one who rebuffed the rediculous claims of it's non-legality, and that it isn't just free to the public w/out regard.
We wanted this crap (had not seen it, only RUMORINT) to play with after A-stan - however it was kind pointless without something to shoot (no energy dump on paper). We then heard stories from friends, eventually reading it in various news articles from Iraq (Army times, etc). The line that I still remember was something like "I have/seen people?/ shot people with all kinds of 5.56, but I have never seen anything like this."

RBCD makes some quality ****! their 90gr 45 ACP is awesome.Yes it is! 2050 fps out of 5" 1911A1. Have you at least seen the DVD tests?

[TriggerPuller]

PLZ GIVE MOR INFO AND/OR LINKS AND/OR PHOTOS....what tha hell is BLENDED METAL...sorry for screaming but noone listen to me here :)Unless you are military or LE then you cant even access the website! Sorry!

TP

[ibstolidude]

Yes it is! 2050 fps out of 5" 1911A1. Have you at least seen the DVD tests? - there are certain perks w/being friends w/ex teammates that are also LEO
- I have seen clips shown me by other LEO/military, I, personally, have not however requested the DVD from the company.

[Webley]

I am thinking that a .45 caliber Glock would be the ideal service pistol.

[TriggerPuller]

TP:

I also owned a Glock 21....but what exactly is the desert environment ?

Arizona,Iraq,Astan. Glocks: draw, point, shoot. easy to take down and clean and will work longer than any other pistol without cleaning.
The .45acp has been working since it was first introduced against the Phillipine Moro's all the way to today. Dont change what works and kills.

TP

[ibstolidude]

TP:

I also owned a Glock 21....but what exactly is the desert environment ?

Arizona,Iraq,Astan. Glocks: draw, point, shoot. easy to take down and clean and will work longer than any other pistol without cleaning.
The .45acp has been working since it was first introduced against the Phillipine Moro's all the way to today. Dont change what works and kills.

TP
Hey I had an M9 in those conditions and it is easier to hammer on things with ... so fooey to you.

[Herrmannek]

PLZ GIVE MOR INFO AND/OR LINKS AND/OR PHOTOS....what tha hell is BLENDED METAL...sorry for screaming but noone listen to me here :)Unless you are military or LE then you cant even access the website! Sorry!

TP


OK..from what i've read this bullet sounds like big black magick ****....

[Piotrek]

OK..from what i've read this bullet sounds like big black magick ****....

Mayby that will help
http://www.armedforcesjournal.com/blackwater/videos.html

You will find there film or two about blendet metal bullets (other films are also cool :) )

Ps. Co to dokładnie znaczy po polsku "blendet metal" ??

[Herrmannek]

OK..from what i've read this bullet sounds like big black magick ****....

Mayby that will help
http://www.armedforcesjournal.com/blackwater/videos.html

You will find there film or two about blendet metal bullets (other films are also cool :) )

Ps. Co to dokładnie znaczy po polsku "blendet metal" ??

I've saw that video earlier, it still looks like **** for me..guy didn't convinced me at all.

As for name: Blended Metal, nazwał bym to Melanżem Metalowym :), nie wiem nazwa jest głupia i myląca..w sam raz dla snobów:)

[Piotrek]

Jednym slowem dobra robota marketingowcow :)

I think it is some kind of alloy ( or mayby parch metal powder ) and during formation of bullet some energy is stored up in stresses - this energy is relised after the bullet gets warm - for example when kinetic energy become termal energy after hiting the target..sorry if it sounds stiupid but I dont know proper words to say in english what iI mean.

[FinnishMF]

Where the hell is 9mm ? :bash:

[scoone]

Check out the discussion above. The comments were not too positive.

I had thought that a pure copper round would make a good AP round, but one of the comments was it "sporadically penetrates Level II vests".

I Know, it's not a good load, it used to be a nice one back in the 80's ( when I first used a gun). That's why I liked. Now cartridges are a lot more evolved.I think that This kind of bullet begun it life after the Munich terrorist attack during the olimpic games.
For me the 9mm is one of the best bullets ever woot

[Backis]

10mm Colt, .40 S&W and .357SIG are all missing as well...