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ed316
09-27-2006, 02:20 PM
The only way to kick our oil habit

By Paul McDonnold


DALLAS


At the risk of becoming the most unpopular person in the suburbs, I have to admit that my feelings about the recent discovery of a vast new oil deposit beneath the Gulf of Mexico are mixed.
This new find, in what is known as the Jack field, will sharply increase US oil reserves. That is a good thing. Our dependence on Middle Eastern oil is far too great, given the region's instability. The new find may also sharply decrease the price of gasoline. That is the part that bothers me.
No, I am not an environmental radical or an oil company executive. I am a generally conservative American automobile driver, and a trained economist. As an economist, I understand that price movements in free markets send signals to consumers. These signals speak more clearly than all the rhetoric Washington, D.C., can muster, and change behavior more effectively than the finest of moralizing.
And when it comes to oil, America's behavior needs to change.
I see the ugly face of America's oil addiction every day in my hometown of Dallas - lines of large automobiles, one occupant each, stretching toward the horizon. And this is only the part I can see. The rest I can only imagine - a web of asphalt crisscrossing the nation, an uncountable mass of cars coursing along it, burning gasoline, emitting exhaust. As an economist, what bothers me is the inefficiency of it all, and the opportunity costs.
I am as much a fan of rapid transportation as the next person, but the traffic jams to which I am frequently a party are anything but rapid. I would be afraid to estimate the amount of oil we use, the pollution we create, and the dollars we send to the Middle East, without even moving our cars an inch.
Another example of our inefficient use of oil is found in the immense size of many of our automobiles, a result of cheap gas. One person going to work in a vehicle built for eight requires much more oil than should be necessary to get that person from point A to point B.
Oil, along with its partner the internal combustion engine, has been our blessing, but also our curse. It is part of a broader technological revolution that has effectively shrunk space. It has drawn our economy closer together, powering growth.
But cheap oil encourages wasteful use. It pollutes the air. It may be heating up the entire atmosphere. It has nurtured a relationship with the Middle East that is so dysfunctional that lives are lost tragically on both sides every day.
And what are the opportunity costs of our oil addiction? According to the Bureau of Economic Analysis, Americans spent over $280 billion on gasoline and oil in 2005. How much of this money could be saved with smaller, more efficient cars, more gas-electric hybrids, more and better mass transit? For argument, let's say half. That would be $140 billion that could be used to meet more critical needs.
To illustrate the possibilities of such an incredible figure, consider that economist Jeffrey Sachs, in his book, "The End of Poverty," has estimated that extreme poverty in the world could be eliminated in 20 years with $80 billion of additional international aid per year. Whether or not this is true, I do not doubt that the resources freed up by a less wasteful transportation system could accomplish some truly amazing things in a world where tragedies of scarcity play out every day.
Oil has its substitutes. Biofuels, solar power, electric automobiles, renewable-source electricity generation, and other technologies exist and are waiting to be developed further. But they cannot compete with oil as long as it is cheap. Until these alternatives can compete, they will not be improved as rapidly as they could be.
Moralizing will not break our addiction to oil, but sustained high prices certainly would. People would respond to such a market signal by slowly changing their behavior - cars would become smaller, more efficient. Better mass transit would be built and used. More people would live close to their workplaces. Traffic jams would shrink. The air would clear.
The discovery of a new oil source in the Gulf of Mexico makes that scenario less likely. An oil supply close to home is a good thing, but cheap oil has a downside. Gas prices at $4 per gallon might be the only way to break America's oil addiction. With the news from Jack field, $2 per gallon is more realistic. The former looks like the better bargain to me.
• Paul McDonnold is a freelance writer and adjunct economics instructor for the Dallas County Community College District. He is the author of the novel "5 Pillars, 7 Sins."

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0918/p09s02-coop.html

Hunterhr
09-27-2006, 02:29 PM
Become a 3rd world country...

Irish-Fianoglach
09-27-2006, 02:31 PM
It's true the U.S. must change it's ways.

ElHombre
09-27-2006, 02:42 PM
Good find, ed316.

Hunterhr, he's talking about replacing oil as a source of energy.

Hunterhr
09-27-2006, 02:46 PM
Good find, ed316.

Hunterhr, he's talking about replacing oil as a source of energy.

Less cars is not going to reduce our oil habit. Not even close.


Oil has its substitutes. Biofuels, solar power, electric automobiles, renewable-source electricity generation, and other technologies exist and are waiting to be developed further. But they cannot compete with oil as long as it is cheap.

So when oil isn't cheap, they'll be developed. Problem solved. The sky is still rooted firmly to the heavens.

deagle
09-27-2006, 05:23 PM
uhh, ban cars ? Or SUV's at least ? lol

LaoSexMachine
09-27-2006, 08:49 PM
We definetly need to get off crack.

XShipRider
09-28-2006, 07:04 AM
It's petro-crack. There's definitely something to reducing consumption.
Unfortunately we have no way to quickly, painlessly reduce our
dependence until the 100K commuters of many major cities - the
commuters with the SUV and only 1 person in the entire vehicle -
decide to change their habits.

There's an eventual bust coming...
When it does happen, and it will, it will be one helluva shock to our
economy, lifestyle and psyche.

loganinkosovo
09-28-2006, 07:38 AM
well......gee, we could convert all our power plant to nuclear fuel like France did, that paragon of Kyoto. Or we can nose dive our economy, fire everyone, put them out on the street and close down all our factories, like that other Paragon of Kyoto, Russia.


Or we can just accept that no "Alternative" fuel source is as powerful, as safe and as cheap as Oil.

Stop the Petro-blackmail of the middle east and south America by drilling and pumping are own damned oil where ever it may be.

Build new and cleaner refineries to process our oil.

And find new, more efficent and better ways to use our oil.


I have always said that if they can make an "alternative" vehicle that looks, sounds, has the same power, acceleration and torque as my SUV and the Fuel is cheap.....I'll buy it.

But if all they can make is Faggoty-assed looking, gutless Political statements on wheels then they can go to hell and take their gay-assed vehicle with them.

But Leftist want us dependent upon foreign oil since it is one more check against US National power and that check is held by Anti-American Thugs by and Large.

Thats why they are bemoaning our dependence on Foreign oil while blocking any attempt to allow us to use our oil and pissing away millions and millions of dollars on "Alternative" fuel research.

But what the Leftists really want above all else, More than seeing America appoligize to everyone else for being sucessful, more than seeing Americans pay for everyone else in the world's food, shelter and healthcare bills thereby destroying our only super power status, bankrupting us, and punishing the Great Satan since it's only "Fair", what they want most of all.... is "More Money". So if they raise the price on Gas it will be by criminally high taxes, which in turn will go into the Pocket of those leftist Politician who are levying the Criminally high taxes and to buy votes to keep those leftist politicians in office.

So.....good try for a Marxist......but no cigar, Fidel!

:)

Dronetek
09-28-2006, 08:05 AM
It's true the U.S. must change it's ways.

Yeah, because we are the only ones who use oil.....oh wait!

Im curious as to why you dont see this kind of hand ringing about China, they dont even try to clean up their mess. Actually I do know why, its called propaganda.

Durandal
09-28-2006, 08:42 AM
An interesting article.

I think the solution is cheap diesel and expensive gasoline. I agree that the price should be up in the 4 to 5 dollar range. The cost of gasoline, not diesel has relatively little impact upon our society as a whole. There might be some lean years as far as spending goes in family structures, less vacations taken, and less money spent, but eventually, this would change as they adopted a more energy efficient spending pattern by getting a more efficient car...

When I see politically charged prices at the pump (1.95 USD just yesterday!!!) and diesel/kerosene, the very fuel that drives our economy, almost a whole dollar higher I wonder who the dumb@ss is that is responsible for this.

Yeah, we need to change, cheaper electricity generation through nuke plants is certainly a solid alternative, regardless of what some may think. Using OUR oil as the previous post suggest wouldn't even begin to fix the problem.

annihilation
09-28-2006, 10:02 AM
How much energy is produced in oil burning power plants? Normally I thought it was coal, nukes, and hydro. I could be wrong but I would think that it would be a terrible waste to burn oil in power plants when we are sitting on so much coal.

My personal view on how to kick the habit is.
1)Eliminate all tax incentives given to oil companies.
2)Take those tax incentives and issue them out to alternative fuel / energy sources. Make them more competitive in the market place while they technology has a chance to mature and become viable on its own.
3)Produce more safer nuke power planets.
4)Increase the tax on gasoline, as a few suggested. But the new tax would only be allowed to fund research into alternative fuel / energy sources.
5)Promote diesel/kerosene and reduce the tax on that. Also insure all plants remove sulfur from diesel by 2008 as promised and not be allowed an extension.
6)New regulation demanding the car industry to build more fuel efficient cars with an increase of 1 to 2 miles per gallon for each year for the next 10 years.
7)Change the mpg rating to a more real world / realistic value.
8)Promote more renewable energy sources.
9)Promote and push for the construction of coal to diesel plants.
10)Increase regulation for more effiecent appliances to reduce the energy demand on the grid.


Im not looking to eliminate oil from our economy just yet. But all we need to do is reduce the consumption of foreign oil. And no one solution short of hydrogen economy is a fix. But by using multiple alternative sources , the combine effect can have an impact.

Bio-diesel
Electric cars
Diesel- hybrid engines
Coal to gas
Overall more efficient cars regardless of energy source.

Add that up it can have an impact. I read once if the average car could increase the mpg by an extra 3 miles, we could save close to a 1 million barrels a day. Im not sure how true that is. But any saving is worth it.

Audio
09-28-2006, 10:11 AM
I have always said that if they can make an "alternative" vehicle that looks, sounds, has the same power, acceleration and torque as my SUV and the Fuel is cheap.....I'll buy it.


There are things in the works which will meet your criteria very soon.

Ironically, the ones investing in research on alternative fuel for cars are the oil companies (Shell being a first example), they know that their time is coming to a close(that oil will eventually dry out) and are quite desperate to keep their "privileged" status in the world.

Durandal
09-28-2006, 10:11 AM
There is a whole lot of regulations there...

I am not a big proponent of those types of "solutions".

Two easy things to do. Cut oil subsidies/tax breaks and add on a gasoline tax...gasoline ONLY and I think, in less than a decade you would see a massive change.

Hell, you could even cut back income tax on middle class and poor to help the transition.

Audio
09-28-2006, 10:13 AM
There is a whole lot of regulations there...

I am not a big proponent of those types of "solutions".

Two easy things to do. Cut oil subsidies/tax breaks and add on a gasoline tax...gasoline ONLY and I think, in less than a decade you would see a massive change.

Hell, you could even cut back income tax on middle class and poor to help the transition.

One other simple thing to do would be to tax families (households) with more than 2 or 3 cars, if that isnt already in place (am sorry but I really don't know US tax policy)

annihilation
09-28-2006, 10:16 AM
There is a whole lot of regulations there...

I am not a big proponent of those types of "solutions".

Two easy things to do. Cut oil subsidies/tax breaks and add on a gasoline tax...gasoline ONLY and I think, in less than a decade you would see a massive change.

Hell, you could even cut back income tax on middle class and poor to help the transition.

True there is alot there, plenty of room for the average congressman to **** things up. But I was thinking of the most comprehensive possible one. Sometimes you need to lite a fire under the industry's ass (car makers) to get them to do something thats important. I do think that the tax break should be shifted from oil to alternative fuel sources and natural gas is not one of them. Alot of those business models can not compete as well when the price per barrel goes down too low.

Hunterhr
09-28-2006, 12:50 PM
Ironically, the ones investing in research on alternative fuel for cars are the oil companies (Shell being a first example), they know that their time is coming to a close(that oil will eventually dry out) and are quite desperate to keep their "privileged" status in the world.

It's not ironic at all. The oil companies are doing significant research and development into alternative fuels. They want to be on top when the next big thing comes around.

Audio
09-28-2006, 01:53 PM
It's not ironic at all. The oil companies are doing significant research and development into alternative fuels. They want to be on top when the next big thing comes around.

Yes it is irony=> shouldn't "Green Peace" be developing that?
The part where you say they want to be on top isnt questionable at all and you have just repeated what I said.