new russian army trucks

[dimasorokine]

Does anyone have pictures of the Idex-2007 show? There are a few Russian trucks being shown there :)

-Dima

[LEGEND]

:) I remember these! I used to have all the ones you have except the RAF van. The great thing about these models is they are pretty tough, and are fun to play with when you're a kid.

-Dima

Here I got a few more:), but still an old photo now i have more of themp-)

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1586/img0159ib5.jpg

[TR1]

Here I got a few more:), but still an old photo now i have more of themp-)

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1586/img0159ib5.jpg
omg seeing those toy cars brings back memories...the emergency care Volgaand the Zhiguli were universally owned by soviet/succesor state's children.

[T-62]

Here I got a few more:), but still an old photo now i have more of themp-)

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1586/img0159ib5.jpg


excellent collection.

[LEGEND]

I'm a Kamaz fan, can you tell?:)

[magic_flight]

WOW!!! just wow...

what a freaking powerful piece of equipment..!!

congrats to the ruskies!

[Archer75]

nice thread

[dimasorokine]

Some interesting Videos :) Not of new trucks, but still good.
http://www.extreme-rides.pri.ee/html_VIDEOD.html

-Dima

[Angrykirill]

Does anyone have pictures of the Idex-2007 show? There are a few Russian trucks being shown there :)

-Dima

Why not :P

http://www.********************/moyen_orient/Emirats_arabe/IDEX_2003_Pictures_Gallery/IDEX_2007/IDEX_2007_Defence_Exhibition_United_Arab_Emirates_pictures_gallery.htm

edit - a r m y recognition.com :)

[dimasorokine]

Some Interesting Videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjvryU6aCJY - A high mobility Zil 4x4x4 with independent suspension, 4 wheel steeling, auto locking diffs, reduction hubs and all that other great stuff :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb58QY7CWWo - Zil 6x6x4

Both trucks are used by rescue services for their extremely high mobility and are in use (small numbers) with the russian army.

-Dima

[Angrykirill]

Why do you write it as 3 numbers?

[koozya]

Some Interesting Videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjvryU6aCJY - A high mobility Zil 4x4x4 with independent suspension, 4 wheel steeling, auto locking diffs, reduction hubs and all that other great stuff :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb58QY7CWWo - Zil 6x6x4

Both trucks are used by rescue services for their extremely high mobility and are in use (small numbers) with the russian army.

-Dima
thanks great videos

[koozya]

1 more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbzxxAvsOs4&mode=related&search=

[phoebus]

Ural truck used to reload the missile cannisters for the ToR-M1 SHORADS

http://img479.imageshack.us/img479/1408/a8lz7.jpg

[dimasorokine]

Why do you write it as 3 numbers?

As in 4x4x4 ? The last 4 is to indicate that the truck has 4 wheel steering.

-Dima

[TheArmenian]

Some Interesting Videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjvryU6aCJY - A high mobility Zil 4x4x4 with independent suspension, 4 wheel steeling, auto locking diffs, reduction hubs and all that other great stuff :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb58QY7CWWo - Zil 6x6x4

Both trucks are used by rescue services for their extremely high mobility and are in use (small numbers) with the russian army.

-Dima

Great vids. Thanks Dima.

Good to see that ZIL is still up and running. I believed that KAMAZ, URAL and GAZ were getting all the truck business.

[Angrykirill]

As in 4x4x4 ? The last 4 is to indicate that the truck has 4 wheel steering.

-Dima

Thanks, I was thinking about something among those lines ;)

[Sharmen]

UAZ Patriot

http://www.uaz.by/i/gallery/medium/003.jpg

http://www.uaz.by/i/gallery/medium/006.jpg

http://www.uaz.by/i/gallery/medium/002.jpg

http://www.uaz.by/i/gallery/medium/027.jpg

http://www.uaz.by/i/gallery/medium/030.jpg

http://www.uaz.by/i/gallery/medium/031.jpg

http://www.uaz.by/i/gallery/medium/033.jpg

http://www.uaz.by/i/gallery/medium/037.jpg

http://www.uaz.by/i/gallery/medium/050.jpg

http://www.uaz.by/i/gallery/medium/055.jpg

http://www.uaz.by/i/gallery/medium/144.jpg

http://www.uaz.by/i/gallery/medium/157.jpg

these SUVs are from Russia origin or Not?????
http://www.uaz.by/i/gallery/medium/161.jpg
http://www.uaz.by/i/gallery/medium/167.jpg

http://www.uaz.by/i/gallery/medium/178.jpg

http://www.uaz.by/i/gallery/medium/181.jpg

http://www.uaz.by/i/gallery/medium/183.jpg

http://www.uaz.by/i/gallery/medium/023.jpg

http://www.uaz.by/i/gallery/medium/019.jpg
these following SUVs are nice looking and like Toyota Parado SUVs designs.
It can compete with others SUVs.
UN ,Unicef,WHO and NGO must be used if the price are cheaper than japanese car,It is alternative way to weapons export business to diatators ruling contries and anti western countries.
Russia have technology and knowhow but burocracy is still in Russia goverment.IF russia have business management skill,russian will be rich and developed like US,Germany and China.

[Vympel]

these following SUVs are nice looking and like Toyota Parado SUVs designs.
It can compete with others SUVs.
UN ,Unicef,WHO and NGO must be used if the price are cheaper than japanese car,It is alternative way to weapons export business to diatators ruling contries and anti western countries.
Russia have technology and knowhow but burocracy is still in Russia goverment.IF russia have business management skill,russian will be rich and developed like US,Germany and China.

do you know u r talking nonsenses? russia nowdays have normal buisness managment. its just a time question when russia leaps foward. btw USA, yes, Germay - not realy an ethalon:) NO WAY XUYSAI ! CHINA is still developiing! and have many many problems;) but economy is rising. but when this raising stops?

[Xtoisè]

I think it's a little cheaper in Russia from the Army suplus dealers - but it's cheapest (2-5K) in countries like Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and other eastern European countries.

-Dima

army trucks 10k? i dont think so. crappy Gazel, taxi cab or a small box truck costs 6k -10k.

[dimasorokine]

army trucks 10k? i dont think so. crappy Gazel, taxi cab or a small box truck costs 6k -10k.

I am talking about army trucks made in the 70's and 80's that were manufactured and stored as reserve trucks in case they were needed in time of a big war...

Those trucks are pretty much new (never used) - but made 20 - 30 years ago.

As for new Army trucks like Kamaz, Ural etc. you are right, they start at about $30,000.

-Dima

[TheArmenian]

Dima,

I just found out that the ZIL-131 is still in production at a factory in Novouralsk near Ekaterinburg.

The website is www.amurmotors.ru

Can you please provide more details?

[77RUS]

These Zil-131 cost 21000$-27000$
http://www.amurmotors.ru/images/products/45_70/image.jpg
http://www.amurmotors.ru/images/products/45_71/image.jpg

Zil-130 costs 19000-21000$
http://www.amurmotors.ru/images/products/44_51/image.jpg

[Ronguild]

These Zil-131 cost 21000$-27000$
http://www.amurmotors.ru/images/products/45_70/image.jpg
http://www.amurmotors.ru/images/products/45_71/image.jpg

Zil-130 costs 19000-21000$
http://www.amurmotors.ru/images/products/44_51/image.jpg

AMUR production.
The ZIL-130 has the same cab as the -131, quite unusual.

[LEGEND]

AMUR production.
The ZIL-130 has the same cab as the -131, quite unusual.

yep this is the more familiar face of 130:
http://www.cars-directory.net/articles/zil/ZIL-130-photo.jpg

[77RUS]

AMUR production.
The ZIL-130 has the same cab as the -131, quite unusual.

Yep, in AMUR version they are differ only wheels formula 4x2 or 6x6

[Koniu]

J love UAZ , this is mine old wreck with a few modifications [img][img=http://images22.fotosik.pl/82/bad77b37b8db9d6bm.jpg][img/] (http://www.fotosik.pl/pokaz_obrazek/bad77b37b8db9d6b.html)

[77RUS]

J love UAZ , this is mine old wreck with a few modifications

Good one, looks like well offroad tuning was done

[dimasorokine]

Dima,

I just found out that the ZIL-131 is still in production at a factory in Novouralsk near Ekaterinburg.

The website is www.amurmotors.ru (http://www.amurmotors.ru)

Can you please provide more details?

I'm not exactly sure who buys the fresh from the factory Zils made by Amur (maybe Russian army), but I would much rather buy one from an army stockpile suck as http://www.zil131.ru/ (interesting how the diesel version is nearly 2 times the cost of a petrol one!)

The Amur Zil-131's have been shown at the Nizhni Taigil Arms shows for a few years now.

-Dima

[dimasorokine]

Oh and also, here's a few new Videos :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G9R5Coqrkw - ZIL-4972 6x6x4 being put through testing with a ballast weight attached...

It's interesting to know that these trucks are not actually manufactured by Zil, but by PZRA www.pzra.nnov.ru (http://www.pzra.nnov.ru) , they also produce the Zil-4906 http://legion.wplus.net/guide/army/tr/zil4906.shtml (some very cool videos here!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7B9av2eG2E - Zil-134 from the 50's, I doubt there were any trucks that could match the off-road capabilities of this thing - then and even now.

-Dima

[Muhortoff]

http://voenavto.almanacwhf.ru/foto_index.htm
p-) галерея - galery

[TheArmenian]

Oh and also, here's a few new Videos :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G9R5Coqrkw - ZIL-4972 6x6x4 being put through testing with a ballast weight attached...

It's interesting to know that these trucks are not actually manufactured by Zil, but by PZRA www.pzra.nnov.ru (http://www.pzra.nnov.ru) , they also produce the Zil-4906 http://legion.wplus.net/guide/army/tr/zil4906.shtml (some very cool videos here!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7B9av2eG2E - Zil-134 from the 50's, I doubt there were any trucks that could match the off-road capabilities of this thing - then and even now.

-Dima

Thanks for the links.

Is PZRA owned by ZIL or is it an independent company?

@ Muhortoff

Great phot gallery.

[nesesiz]

why do mexica use so much russian equipment?

Do US has military embargo againist mexica?

[Dark Avenger]

It's cheap, reliable and has no strings attached.

[Angrykirill]

Thanks for the links.

Is PZRA owned by ZIL or is it an independent company?

@ Muhortoff

Great phot gallery.

AFAIK it is an independant company that manufactures radio equipment but also has a division that makes these ZIL trucks (they concentrated production of special vehicles there for some reason, maybe because of more qualified personnel that works more precisely and doesn't make as many "bugs" - after all this is life saving equipment..)

[dimasorokine]

More Cool Vodeos :)

Here is the "Blue Bird" trucks from Zil - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAYoRQxYBb8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbnwaiULbFg

-Dima

[TheArmenian]

I love the ZIL-490 series 6x6 trucks with 4 wheel steering.

http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/6650/zilexp4906xx7.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5054/zil35bx1.jpg

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7567/zil49061bqo4.jpg

Some details:

The fibreglass body, is air conditioned.
The tyre pressure control from the cab.
The uniform arrangement of the axles on the machine (2400+2400 mm) allows to overcome trenches more than 1.5 mtr width, and vertical earth and snow barriers up to 1 mtr.
It has a V8 petrol engine ZIL-508.10 with 150 hp, or a diesel engine ZIL-0550.30.
The manual gearbox has a 5 gear + 2 gear low and high.
Top speed on road is 68 km/h. Average with cargo is 20 km/h
Top speed on water is 9 km/h.

[TheArmenian]

Which vehicle is used as the basis of the OSA (SA-8 Gecko) surface to air missile complex?


Is it a ZIL or a BAZ (BZKT)?

[Angrykirill]

A special chassis, made by KAZ I think (georgian truck factory which now is dead)

[Ronguild]

A special chassis, made by KAZ I think (georgian truck factory which now is dead)

You mean KAZ or KrAZ ?
KrAZ is in KREMENTCHOUG, UKRAINA.

[dimasorokine]

Which vehicle is used as the basis of the OSA (SA-8 Gecko) surface to air missile complex?


Is it a ZIL or a BAZ (BZKT)?

It's the BAZ-5937...

http://www.amphibiousvehicle.net/amphi/B/baz-5937-5939.jpeg

There is also the BAZ-5921

http://www.amphibiousvehicle.net/amphi/B/baz-5922-special/5922-red.jpeg

And BAZ-6944

http://www.amphibiousvehicle.net/amphi/B/baz-6944-9t230.jpeg

Sorry for the bad image quality,
-Dima

[TheArmenian]

Thank you Dima and everybodyelse.

This has been a great thread. Let's not let it die.

New very interesting flexible truck ATAKA from the Irbit Aggregate Plant (Ирбитском автоагрегатном заводе)

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/5351/02vezbigmj4.jpg

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5552/221mb5.jpg

The website of the manufacturer is http://iset-group.ru/templates/page.php?pid=306

[TheArmenian]

YOU MUST WATCH THESE GREAT VIDEOs ABOUT THE ATAKA:

http://iset-group.ru/files/rolik.mpg

and

http://iset-group.ru/files/movie.wmv

I think thie little truck can have some military applications (notably with interior ministry forces, OMON etc).

[Flamming_Python]

Great find Armenian!

Quite a unique truck, I like :)

[dimasorokine]

LOL, that trucks looks funny :) It reminds me of the vehicles made by "Trecol" for swanpy areas where even tanks can get stuck!

http://www.offroaddecin.cz/img/2005/trekol-3929-01.jpg

http://auto.tltnews.ru/new/characteristic/1922-10/1.jpg

More info and pictures at their official website: http://www.trecol.ru/ and a long video showing off the capability http://video.mail.ru/inbox/ssss59/39043929/12.html (NOTE: look at the way they shamelesly bash a Ural with full pressure tires by making it stuck - at least let the pressure down and lock the diffs lol)

-Dima

[mannelig]

More photos from producer`s site - http://www.trecol.ru/galerey/img/

[TheArmenian]

A swamp monster called "KERJAK".

Based on a GAZ truck (the "Valday" I think).

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/7141/image1170935307fg4.jpg

Nice video about it at http://zvm-nn.ru/upload/docs/file.1172129543.avi

The manufacturer's website at http://zvm-nn.ru/

[koozya]

ATAKA looks so qute

[dimasorokine]

A swamp monster called "KERJAK".

Based on a GAZ truck (the "Valday" I think).

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/7141/image1170935307fg4.jpg

Nice video about it at http://zvm-nn.ru/upload/docs/file.1172129543.avi

The manufacturer's website at http://zvm-nn.ru/

Cool :) - I like the van version, and the tracked UAZs to.
-Dima

[TheArmenian]

More swampmasters (or swampmonsters). This time from http://vezdehody.ru/vezde/

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/1594/float1500ei1.jpg

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/9783/arc06500dz8.jpg

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/7121/mam0101450oj6.jpg

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8862/4x403mam01500mr1.jpg

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1038/image001vt5.jpg


http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/3867/image003jq8.jpg

[TheArmenian]

Nicely accessorized UAZ PATRIOT trucks.

Is the Patriot used by the miltary/OMON/police as well?

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/7826/651541wh7.jpg

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/8038/651545ya4.jpg

[mannelig]

UAZ Hunter is used by military. There was an idea to use Patriots for border guards, but I think it was just an idea.

Patriot looks nice, if only his quality was the same...but...

[TheArmenian]

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/3258/200507051742dsc3868asmamz3.jpg

How could we forget the old UAZ van (4x4).

It may be old and ugly, but it could go to places where no other van can dream of.

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/2717/uazfourgondi1.jpg

[mannelig]

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/3258/200507051742dsc3868asmamz3.jpg

How could we forget the old UAZ van (4x4).

It may be old and ugly, but it could go to places where no other van can dream of.

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/2717/uazfourgondi1.jpg

My dad was driving this one, called "Buhanka" =) As he said it could go all his 120 kmph and go anywhere, where modern 4x4 can`t =)

[dimasorokine]

Oh man, the "buhanka" was how I got interested in Russian trucks to begin with :) After my grandfathers freind bought one and we went on all kinds of trips in it - great momories!

-Dima

[stayr]

O Yes! Bukhanka is symbol of Russia like bears and samovars :)
I like this ))

[dimasorokine]

Here is an interesting video from the documentary "Long Way Round" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAsnIB018WI , some nice footage of Ural and Kamaz trucks with maximum loads driving in Siberia :)

-Dima

[77RUS]

Some new stuff from my friend

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/9397/wallpapermilitaryvideo1ek6.jpg
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/8062/osn55lz1.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1420/osn56sh0.jpg

[dimasorokine]

77RUS, do you have any experience with the Tigr?

-Dima

[Douros81]

http://www.kommersant.ru/ISSUES.PHOTO/TEMA/2006/161/tema_61_002-3.jpg
http://www.4x4offroads.com/image-files/4x4-trucks-iceland-land-rover-38.jpg
http://voenavto.almanacwhf.ru/cavaleria/cav08.jpg
http://www.autointell.com/nao_companies/general_motors/hummer/hummer-h1/X04HM_H1006L-350-249.jpg

glad to see the copy industry is alive and well

however the other ones are very cool, one thing for sure, whatever is originally made by the Russia, is reliable and innovative,


The things I would do to get a Defender 90:)

[ArmoBlog]

Love the armored Ural!

[Fireglow]

How many of these monsters that we have seen in this topic will get into military service?

[Zmey]

Which ones in particular do you mean? Out of new ones - Tigr and Vodnik are being supplied quite steadily. Armored Urals were in service for years. Of course tracking vehicle supplies isnt as glamorous as figureing out how many Topols were deployed - but Russian MoD purchases about 30,000 different vehicles per year. So dont worry too much, we got wheels.

[Fireglow]

Like are those many jeeps and those swamp cars ever going into service?

[Zmey]

Not so much the swamp cars... if you'd post a name and /or picture of the *particular* vehicle it would be a lot easier to answer your question. In 16 pages we covered many experimental vehicles that never meant to go into large scale production. Most modifications of Kamaz and Ural are being supplied en mass. Vodnik and Tigr less so. Some of the trucks shown here "lost" to Vodnik/Tigr. Certain truck can be purchased in small numbers by companies or military branches if they are needed.

[Fireglow]

More swampmasters (or swampmonsters). This time from http://vezdehody.ru/vezde/

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/1594/float1500ei1.jpg

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/9783/arc06500dz8.jpg

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/7121/mam0101450oj6.jpg

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8862/4x403mam01500mr1.jpg

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1038/image001vt5.jpg


http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/3867/image003jq8.jpg
I mean these? Any of them entering service?

[mannelig]

These are not for army, but for civil services.

[Zmey]

^ what he said.

But if the some branch decides that they need a few of those, they can be bought.

[TheArmenian]

KZKT Trucks made by http://www.strategia.kurgan.ru/

are they the same as the ones made by www.mzkt.by (http://www.mzkt.by)

????

[dimasorokine]

KZKT Trucks made by http://www.strategia.kurgan.ru/

are they the same as the ones made by www.mzkt.by (http://www.mzkt.by)

????

Yes and No - the KZKT and MZKT trucks have the same type of chassis, transmission and sometimes powerplants but the KZKT main role is tank transporter, MZKT makes trucks for everything.

-Dima

[TheArmenian]

Yes and No - the KZKT and MZKT trucks have the same type of chassis, transmission and sometimes powerplants but the KZKT main role is tank transporter, MZKT makes trucks for everything.

-Dima

Does the Russian Army buy some trucks from MZKT in Belarus???

[TheArmenian]

Another cool vehicle :A-2992 VIKING

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/3164/17zk6.jpg

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/7823/02re2.jpg

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/4670/06hk5.jpg
I believe it is made by www.pa-strela.ru (http://www.pa-strela.ru) (a factory that also produces missiles and some Kamov helicopters).
Great photos of same vehicle here: http://autoreview.ru/new_site/year2004/n21/viking/1.htm

[dimasorokine]

Does the Russian Army buy some trucks from MZKT in Belarus???

Yes they do, because all the heavy Maz trucks (that carry rockets) are made by MZKT. The KZKT are used as tank transporters.

BTW: here is another funny "swamp monster" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPnRZ3l11H0

-Dima

[HS2000]

Another cool vehicle :A-2992 VIKING

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/3164/17zk6.jpg

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/7823/02re2.jpg

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/4670/06hk5.jpg
I believe it is made by www.pa-strela.ru (http://www.pa-strela.ru) (a factory that also produces missiles and some Kamov helicopters).
Great photos of same vehicle here: http://autoreview.ru/new_site/year2004/n21/viking/1.htm


Just ad 20mm Vulcan cannon and you have that SUV from "Tango and Cash"!p-)

[RUS77]

some trucks from IDELF-2006

http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/9567/004ct4.jpg

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3798/001sa4.jpg

[dimasorokine]

Do you have any more pictures from IDELF-2006? Like the Gaz, Ural and Kamaz trucks?

Thank you,
-Dima

[TheArmenian]

Do you have any more pictures from IDELF-2006? Like the Gaz, Ural and Kamaz trucks?

Thank you,
-Dima

Here you go.

From www.pvo.guns.ru (http://www.pvo.guns.ru)

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/5403/img4441be0.jpg

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/2822/img4462zc2.jpg

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8563/img4463ts2.jpg

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9205/img4531zz4.jpg

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/4297/img4533sh5.jpg

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/3896/img4534oi9.jpg

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/6162/img4537oj2.jpg

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/5484/img4542ca3.jpg

[TheArmenian]

More pics.

This time from the Show in Nizhny-Tagil (2006)

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5576/img4322dc2.jpg

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1710/img4334fw4.jpg

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9105/img4381uw9.jpg



http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7972/img4383hh1.jpg

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2393/img4387ao8.jpg

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/7095/img4391zp7.jpg

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/255/img4393tv1.jpg

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2905/img4389sr6.jpg

[TheArmenian]

Video of KAMAZ trucks at IDEX

http://www.pwgs.org/video/kamaz.mpg

[dimasorokine]

Thanks, even though I've sen them already - still very nice pictures for everyone else to see :)

-Dima

[dimasorokine]

Great documentary about UAZ vehicles in Russian: http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=1181182858358437588&q=uaz

-Dima

[TheArmenian]

And here is a commercial for the UAZ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJhh-nlf5FM

[Switek]

And here is a commercial for the UAZ

http://www.youtube.com/v/zJhh-nlf5FM


Fixed for yea ;)

[dimasorokine]

http://www.rcforum.ru/modules.php?name=Forums&file=download&id=124330

Kraz-6322 in Iraq (picture taken from www.rcforum.ru (http://www.rcforum.ru))

-Dima

[Cat_Behemoth]

http://www.rcforum.ru/modules.php?name=Forums&file=download&id=124330

Kraz-6322 in Iraq (picture taken from www.rcforum.ru (http://www.rcforum.ru))

-Dima

I noted one in Today's pics, AFAIU Ukrainians presented or sold some to Iraq?

[Vigelante]

Rofl funny video :P
But as some said before, there new jeep, looks alot like the american hummer. But in a way, everybody copy's from everybody

[Angrykirill]

The only copy in this thread is the ad above, it's copied from a MB G class ad which was broadcasted a couple of yrs ago.

[dimasorokine]

I noted one in Today's pics, AFAIU Ukrainians presented or sold some to Iraq?

I believe the US bough 2000 Kraz-6322 trucks for Iraq.

-Dima

[LEGEND]

Great documentary about UAZ vehicles in Russian: http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=1181182858358437588&q=uaz

-Dima

LOL, this is funny new uaziks incorporate "stealth" technology, makes it invisible to the enemy radar:)

[ArmoBlog]

I believe the US bough 2000 Kraz-6322 trucks for Iraq.

-Dima

Why? U.S. trucks weren't good enough or were the Krazes had for much less?

[dimasorokine]

Why? U.S. trucks weren't good enough or were the Krazes had for much less?

Well, most Russian trucks do have better off-road capabilities than US trucks (most of Russia has few roads outside of cities and has very difficult terrain), and also the Kraz-6322 are reliable, capable and very easy to maintain compared to the American trucks which are reliable but expensive...Plus the Iraqis are used to and prefer Russian equipment.

-Dima

[dimasorokine]

Funny stuff, old gaz-66 going through a soft sand trial-course modified 4x4s are having difficulties with :) http://video.mail.ru/mail/romires-007/35/39.html

-Dima

[TheArmenian]

UAZ Pick-Up Trucks

Based on the UAZ PATRIOT model.

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2245/uaz2005ra4.jpg

Crew-cab model (4 doors)

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/3909/uaz2001tk0.jpg
Regular cab model (2 doors)

[TheArmenian]

The UAZ BARS model based on the well-known UAZ 4x4

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5148/autowpruuaz31593wv2.jpg

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/4176/autowpruuaz31591qi7.jpg

And a video about the model http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe-74-BQXfA

[ArmoBlog]

Funny stuff, old gaz-66 going through a soft sand trial-course modified 4x4s are having difficulties with :) http://video.mail.ru/mail/romires-007/35/39.html

-Dima

Loved the video, thanks! It's amazing how an older truck with soviet technology can kick the crap out of most 4x4s!

[Shturman]

Do you have any more pictures from IDELF-2006? Like the Gaz, Ural and Kamaz trucks?

Thank you,
-Dima

As you asked, more from IDELF-2006

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/2955/dscn0093pc1.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6518/dscn0097oe2.jpg
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/1874/dscn0100hy6.jpg
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2187/dscn0104yg7.jpg
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/7210/dscn0108ne1.jpg

Armoured Gazel for MVD special units
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/6324/dscn0145ph7.jpg

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9329/dscn0146xb3.jpg
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/842/dscn0148fp4.jpg

Armoured UAZ also for MVD
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/670/dscn0177ur3.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2528/dscn0179vp0.jpg

[Smok]

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/6324/dscn0145ph7.jpg

My friend works as driver and he drives Gazel. He said that it is piece of ****. This car is very poorly made. It failures all the time. They want to sell it, but no one wants to buy it.

[Shturman]

My friend works as driver and he drives Gazel. He said that it is piece of ****. This car is very poorly made. It failures all the time. They want to sell it, but no one wants to buy it.

sad about your friend, Gazel is a real s....

But these spetsnaz gazels differ, as i remember they had Stayr diesel engines

[dimasorokine]

Thanks Shturman :) And yes, the Gazel is not a very good van...I don't know about the ones made now but I do know that there are legends about the cars crapyness lol.

-Dima

[Ecchi Oni]

The legends to Gazel's crappiness can be attributed to the abuse those trucks recieve and very little maintanence performed on them.

[dimasorokine]

The legends to Gazel's crappiness can be attributed to the abuse those trucks recieve and very little maintanence performed on them.

I think it's a little of both: in the 90's, most of Russia's car manufacturers made poor quality products compared to soviet times - because of cost cutting, firing of qualified workers and assholes like Berezhovski being in charge...

But at the same time, trucks like gaz-66, Ural-4320, Zil-131 etc. take a lot more abuse than a Gazelle truck - but the legends about them are of their reliability and high quality :)

-Dima

[Ecchi Oni]

Dima you are comparing trucks made for military with a purely civilian vehicle. Military trucks have schedualed maintanence performed on them and are used for a short time by armed forces before being sold as surplus. Civilian gazels especially in taxi applications are just run until they fall apart.

[dimasorokine]

Dima you are comparing trucks made for military with a purely civilian vehicle. Military trucks have schedualed maintanence performed on them and are used for a short time by armed forces before being sold as surplus. Civilian gazels especially in taxi applications are just run until they fall apart.

The military vehicles are also made with greater care and more money is spent on developing them - especially in the soviet times. These same trucks in Afghanistan, Mongolia, and former soviet countries run non stop for decades many recording over 1,000,000 KM of off-road driving. They are just better developed, designed and manufactured...

The Gazelle was developed in the 90's and at a tiny fraction of the cost devoted to testing, design and development compared to military vehicles developed in Soviet Times...

When the Gazelle was introduced, it was known as a problamatic vehicle and "Autoreview" , ZaRulom" and other Russian auto magazines gave it bad reviews...the second generation of Gazelle trucks appears to be more reliable with most of the problems worked out.

-Dima

[Ecchi Oni]

Dima, the military trucks are designed better than civilian ones. This comes with increased price, weight(built in redundancies) and fuel consumption. And it seems like Gazel will be phased out soon with GAZ's purchase of a British light truck manufacturer. Sorry don't have that company's name on top of my head. It was in Za Rulem so you can look it up there.

[dimasorokine]

Dima, the military trucks are designed better than civilian ones. This comes with increased price, weight(built in redundancies) and fuel consumption. And it seems like Gazel will be phased out soon with GAZ's purchase of a British light truck manufacturer. Sorry don't have that company's name on top of my head. It was in Za Rulem so you can look it up there.

Does it say Gazelle will go out of production? Because I would think the new British vans are going to be more expensive and there is still a market for cheap light trucks in Russia...even the "buhanka" is still in production :)

-Dima

[Ecchi Oni]

"Buhanka" fills a very specialized niche of vans. And I think Gazelle will go out of production eventually as it becomes obsolete. As for the price of British vans the cost will be brought down by relocating the production for internal market to Russia. Also the British vans are FWD, so Gazelle and its succesor model will probably hold the niche of RWD vans and light trucks.

[TheArmenian]

Dima, the military trucks are designed better than civilian ones. This comes with increased price, weight(built in redundancies) and fuel consumption. And it seems like Gazel will be phased out soon with GAZ's purchase of a British light truck manufacturer. Sorry don't have that company's name on top of my head. It was in Za Rulem so you can look it up there.

The British designed van you are talking about is the MAXUS. This is a picture of it.

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/341/maxusgazunionwb1.jpg

I doubt it will replace the GAZelle as it will definitly be pricier. As a matter of fact the GAZelle and the SOBOL are being redisgned. Here is the new model.
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/892/gaz20sobol2001un4.jpg

BTW, GAZ is coming up with a new van called the GAZ-2332 (cityvan) Here it is.

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/8600/autowprugaz2332cityvan2lb9.jpg

[Shturman]

The British designed van you are talking about is the MAXUS. This is a picture of it.


I doubt it will replace the GAZelle as it will definitly be pricier. As a matter of fact the GAZelle and the SOBOL are being redisgned. Here is the new model.
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/892/gaz20sobol2001un4.jpg

BTW, GAZ is coming up with a new van called the GAZ-2332 (cityvan) Here it is.

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/8600/autowprugaz2332cityvan2lb9.jpg

Agreed, and new Sobol of course won't replace gazels from taxi service
btw, new CityVan was produced only in one copy for media and promotional purposes

[dimasorokine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG3TRv9dLIc Gaz tigr video

-Dima

[BattleStar Galactica]

Here is an older Baz-6950 command center...

http://rcforum.ru/modules.php?name=Forums&file=download&id=37159
haven't seen this in years, I remember 3 of them parked at the vehicle lot where we had our BMP's and BTR's.

[Lazarou]

And here is a commercial for the UAZ

http://www.youtube.com/v/zJhh-nlf5FM

...and here is the original:

http://www.youtube.com/v/Z7yRnq7uEXk

:roll:

[Constantin]

GGggggggg)))) LOL!

[Shturman]

one of the OMON trucks

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7173/dscn1251ij4.jpg

[dsilva]

hey i love these army trucks. they look so hot. heres a great pic of one i really like.........

http://images.share27.com/215-russian-army-truck.jpg (http://www.share27.com/id215/russian-army-truck.jpg)
J. Dsilva

[ArmoBlog]

hey i love these army trucks. they look so hot. heres a great pic of one i really like.........

http://images.share27.com/215-russian-army-truck.jpg (http://www.share27.com/id215/russian-army-truck.jpg)
J. Dsilva

That's a Gaz-66, a 4x4 workhorse! I dig the Ural 6x6s, myself!

[dimasorokine]

Gaz-66 is my favorate! Cheap, reliable, cabable.

-Dima

[Shturman]

Some aviation support trucks from Tambov 2007 Airshow

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/3341/tambov032mk9.jpg

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4061/tambov041ft6.jpg

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/8434/tambov033hv6.jpg

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9156/tambov034vy7.jpg

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/2911/tambov035xr3.jpg

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3363/tambov036ol1.jpg

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/5065/tambov037np2.jpg

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4912/tambov038nj9.jpg

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4039/tambov039yy6.jpg

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4688/tambov040jt1.jpg

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/8220/tambov042ob4.jpg

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/932/tambov043se7.jpg

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8861/tambov044me4.jpg

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7050/tambov049ww7.jpg

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4306/tambov048xx6.jpg

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/5222/tambov046yh3.jpg

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4946/tambov045ps7.jpg

And my favourite
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/6473/tambov047px4.jpg


Other photos from this Airshow in this thread
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=112893

[dimasorokine]

Shturman, cool photos!

Here is something new and interesting: new МЗКТ-7301 heavy cargo truck (photo taken from www.rcforum.ru (http://www.rcforum.ru))

http://www.rcforum.ru/modules.php?name=Forums&file=download&id=130505

Which seems to be a direct competitor to the Kamaz-6560

http://www.ehmann-web.de/Bilder/L-11-Sonder2/eweb-S5-Kamaz-01.jpg

And speaking of the 6560, here are some new photos of an air defence system on it's chassis:

http://www.pvo.guns.ru/images/panzir/new/1/09.jpg

More at: http://www.pvo.guns.ru/panzir/photos_vko.htm

-Dima

[Ares]

Ah yes the Pantsir S1 on a kamaz chassis. Heh its been through alot of work and chassis already :)

[Slater]

On the subject of Russian trucks, the MAZ-543 (If I've got that right) was a large off-road truck that was used as the TEL for the SCUD missile and various other heavy cargo/systems. Is it still in production or has it been replaced with a newer design?

[Ares]

I believe its still in production but the S-400 Triumf have a new type of TEL not using MAZ. БАЗ-64022 is used for the S-400 Triumf TEL. If you can read russian heres a site that shows more BAZ chassis for the S-400. http://leasinginfo.ru/catalog/item/4516.html (http://leasinginfo.ru/catalog/item/4516.html)
Btw that Panzir chassis is the last one and after it finishes trials that will be the production version :)

[TheArmenian]

The KAMAZ armoured truck. Some sources call it the BTR-94 (I don't know if it is the correct name).

http://autowp.ru/pictures/kamaz/btr-94/autowp.ru_kamaz_btr-94_1.jpg

http://autowp.ru/pictures/kamaz/btr-94/autowp.ru_kamaz_btr-94_3.jpg

http://autowp.ru/pictures/kamaz/btr-94/autowp.ru_kamaz_btr-94_2.jpg

[Dark Avenger]

The correct designation is BPM-97 Vistrel (KAMAZ-43269). The BTR-94 is essentially a BTR-80 with the KMDB BAU-23-2 turret.

[LEGEND]

On the subject of Russian trucks, the MAZ-543 (If I've got that right) was a large off-road truck that was used as the TEL for the SCUD missile and various other heavy cargo/systems. Is it still in production or has it been replaced with a newer design?

MAZ plants are not in Russia so the trucks can't be used for defense projects i would assume.

Anyone knows what chassis will be used for new ICBMs?

[TheArmenian]

GAZ Tigr

http://autowp.ru/pictures/gaz/2975/autowp.ru_gaz_2975_2.jpg

[TheArmenian]

The civilian version of the TIGR

http://autowp.ru/pictures/gaz_3121_-tigr-2-/autowp.ru_gaz_3121_-tigr-2-_4.jpg

http://autowp.ru/pictures/gaz_3121_-tigr-2-/autowp.ru_gaz_3121_-tigr-2-_5.jpg

http://autowp.ru/pictures/gaz_3121_-tigr-2-/autowp.ru_gaz_3121_-tigr-2-_3.jpg

Photos from : www.autowp.ru

[dimasorokine]

Kinda ugly, but very capable - the Military version looks better IMO.
-Dima

[mannelig]

Civil Tigr is just a prototype.

Old good 469 with trucks
http://www.autowp.ru/pictures/uaz_469/autowp.ru_uaz_469_1.jpg

UAZ Patriot with trucks is very interesting :)
http://www.autowp.ru/pictures/uaz_3163_-patriot-/autowp.ru_uaz_3163_-patriot-_2.jpg
http://www.autowp.ru/pictures/uaz_3163_-patriot-/autowp.ru_uaz_3163_-patriot-_3.jpg

[Shturman]

ahhhhaaa, funny UAZ

One of my friends bought Patriot,
after i took a ride at Patriot i thougt it is sh///t!!! very large inside, nice look, but engine power is too low and didn't good mached with suspension. inside plastic looks very cheap and sounds everytime like in VAZ

[TheArmenian]

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9629/attachmentky0.jpg

What truck is this??

[Shturman]

looks like armoured Kamaz

[Angrykirill]

KAMAZ riot vehicle for police (IMO)

[Mr.K]

Civilian Tigr is destined to fail, it costs almost as much as the H2.

[dimasorokine]

Civilian Tigr is destined to fail, it costs almost as much as the H2.

I dunno, maybe some patriotic Russians with money will buy it :) I would buy the first Tigr, the one that is already in production - this new one "Tigr 2" is just a fancy prototype, although it is very capable.

-Dima

[Douros81]

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9629/attachmentky0.jpg

What truck is this??

Driving that would be like driving a building around that thing would rock in rush hour, whats that thing get 5MPG:)

[dimasorokine]

Driving that would be like driving a building around that thing would rock in rush hour, whats that thing get 5MPG:)

Nah, it would behave normally - this is a 6 ton (offroad payload) truck, the armor adons are probably around 2 tons, so it's still lighter than it's designed to be :)

-Dima

[Douros81]

Nah, it would behave normally - this is a 6 ton (offroad payload) truck, the armor adons are probably around 2 tons, so it's still lighter than it's designed to be :)

-Dima


I could have a lot fun with that thing, plus I wouls fell safe driving around
North St. Louis City, Mo (its the hood area)p-)

[Angrykirill]

Nah the doors need more protection for that, you would be looking for a BTR with a bulldozer blade or a minesweeping trall.

[Dark Avenger]

Note the hinged armor panel with the slanted edge to the rear of the cab; this I think covers the door to fully protect the cab.

[Koniu]

Civil Tigr is just a prototype.

Old good 469 with trucks
http://www.autowp.ru/pictures/uaz_469/autowp.ru_uaz_469_1.jpg

UAZ Patriot with trucks is very interesting :)
http://www.autowp.ru/pictures/uaz_3163_-patriot-/autowp.ru_uaz_3163_-patriot-_2.jpg
http://www.autowp.ru/pictures/uaz_3163_-patriot-/autowp.ru_uaz_3163_-patriot-_3.jpg
It looks nice:) , J wondering about price of this modifficacion , and when J can buy this grubs ? UAZ rules :)

[TheArmenian]

Photos from the VTTV-OMSK 2007 show.
Pictures are from www.rusarmy.com (http://www.rusarmy.com)

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/6280/p1000237ve8.jpg
URAL
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/9189/p1000239se5.jpg
URAL truck with GRAD multiple rocket launcher

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/5015/p1000245cr6.jpg
KAMAZ armoured truck

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/5508/p1000246kw9.jpg
KAMAZ

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6553/p1000249el2.jpg
KAMAZ

[dimasorokine]

Some very interesting photos of current Russian Army trucks, and ones that never made it into production from a Russian Military Truck Museum...

Kraz-6316 8x8
http://www.denisovets.narod.ru/museum/museum_rvai/2ground/KRAZ6316_1.jpg

Kraz-6315 6x6

http://www.denisovets.narod.ru/museum/museum_rvai/2ground/KRAZ6315_1.jpg

Kamaz-5350 (from early 90's - now in service)

http://www.denisovets.narod.ru/museum/museum_rvai/2ground/KAMAZ5350_1.jpg

Baz-6044 (in service since late 80's)

http://www.denisovets.narod.ru/museum/museum_rvai/2ground/BAZ6944_1.jpg

Baz-69531 8x8 (in service)

http://www.denisovets.narod.ru/museum/museum_rvai/2hall/BAZ69531_1.jpg

Gaz-3301

http://www.denisovets.narod.ru/museum/museum_rvai/2hall/GAZ3301_1.jpg

Uaz-3172

http://www.denisovets.narod.ru/museum/museum_rvai/2hall/UAZ3172_1.jpg

And much, much more interesting photos at:

http://www.denisovets.narod.ru/museum/museum_rvai/2hall/2hall.html

http://www.denisovets.narod.ru/museum/museum_rvai/2ground/2ground.html

from the great website: http://denisovets.narod.ru

-Dima

[ArmoBlog]

Some very interesting photos of current Russian Army trucks, and ones that never made it into production from a Russian Military Truck Museum...

Kraz-6316 8x8
http://www.denisovets.narod.ru/museum/museum_rvai/2ground/KRAZ6316_1.jpg

Kraz-6315 6x6

http://www.denisovets.narod.ru/museum/museum_rvai/2ground/KRAZ6315_1.jpg

Kamaz-5350 (from early 90's - now in service)

http://www.denisovets.narod.ru/museum/museum_rvai/2ground/KAMAZ5350_1.jpg

Baz-6044 (in service since late 80's)

http://www.denisovets.narod.ru/museum/museum_rvai/2ground/BAZ6944_1.jpg

Baz-69531 8x8 (in service)

http://www.denisovets.narod.ru/museum/museum_rvai/2hall/BAZ69531_1.jpg

Gaz-3301

http://www.denisovets.narod.ru/museum/museum_rvai/2hall/GAZ3301_1.jpg

Uaz-3172

http://www.denisovets.narod.ru/museum/museum_rvai/2hall/UAZ3172_1.jpg

And much, much more interesting photos at:

http://www.denisovets.narod.ru/museum/museum_rvai/2hall/2hall.html

http://www.denisovets.narod.ru/museum/museum_rvai/2ground/2ground.html

from the great website: http://denisovets.narod.ru

-Dima

All your images are broken, but the links work fine. Thanks, great stuff! :)

[enforcer]

Russian ballistic Missile Carriers & other super trucks
produced by the Minsk Tractor Trailer Factory

*Model 7907: (one of the longest chassis in the world)
Carrying capacity - 200 tons
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/240/456064709_8568355173.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/185/456049172_54b9c40992.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/250/456048968_c857fdb261.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/215/456064185_fb5af6bf05.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/181/456064095_5105bd4214.jpg


*Model 7917:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/168/456064369_ef58bb31a4.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/191/456064301_a4cb628b9f.jpg


*Model 7906:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/184/456048614_1608c99f0d.jpg


*Model 7904:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/253/456048574_d712c5607e.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/185/456048438_204fd4915e.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/220/456048296_a219934954.jpg



Cold War old trucks :

*ZIL E-135
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/229/519476090_1716e69a0e.jpg


*ZIL-3167s:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/140/320050286_6ce4aa4461.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/200/519504751_e185f7b145.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/191/519504407_477f4b5988.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/221/519504471_efdc81d1b8.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/226/519476168_adc962a562.jpg



*Russian Army Longest Truck MZKT - 79221
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/149/427742769_536db54d8a.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/152/427742368_fd267feab4.jpg

[ce267]

thanks alot..really enteresting pics...
l have never seen this kind of long hulled trucks before...

wheels should be conneceted to electric motors...mechanic transmisson seems not possible...

[Frutzel]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/168/456064369_ef58bb31a4.jpg

WHAT A BEAST! Thanks for sharing

[Pablo]

In URAL:
http://img.fotki.by/originals/fool/9/1_19f5e.jpg
http://img.fotki.by/originals/fool/9/2_0d46a.jpg
http://img.fotki.by/originals/fool/9/3_06677.jpg
http://img.fotki.by/originals/fool/9/4_3ff4b.jpg
In GAZ:
http://img.fotki.by/originals/fool/9/5_ecbdf.jpg
http://img.fotki.by/originals/fool/9/6_b0e12.jpg
http://img.fotki.by/originals/fool/9/7_f2c59.jpg

[dimasorokine]

Pablo, those photos are in a Ural-375 NOT 4320 right?

Here is an interesting photo, a "Street" version of the Kamaz-4911 Dakar truck parket at a truckstop:
http://www.rcforum.ru/modules.php?name=Forums&file=download&id=141543

http://www.rcforum.ru/modules.php?name=Forums&file=download&id=141543

Taken from www.rcforum.ru (http://www.rcforum.ru)

-Dima

[Shurik1234]

I am new here, so my hallo to everybody and congradulation on for very interesting post.

To anyone who understand about Kamaz (specificaly 4326 and other all terrain models) mechanics; I understand that unlike Ural and Kraz, they do not have differential lockers. Also I belive they do not have so good suspension flexibility for difficult terrain. What is opinion of those who drive them off-road?

[dimasorokine]

I am new here, so my hallo to everybody and congradulation on for very interesting post.

To anyone who understand about Kamaz (specificaly 4326 and other all terrain models) mechanics; I understand that unlike Ural and Kraz, they do not have differential lockers. Also I belive they do not have so good suspension flexibility for difficult terrain. What is opinion of those who drive them off-road?

I believe the earlier models Kamaz-4310 don't have diff-locks, the newer models have differencial locks on all axles as standard and have improved cross country capability (larger tires, better suspension travel etc.)

So the new "Mustang family" is more capable than the old 4310 series.

-Dima

[ArmoBlog]

http://kolob.amerikos.ru/morerroads/14.jpg

http://kolob.amerikos.ru/morerroads/13.jpg
http://kolob.amerikos.ru/morerroads/10.jpg

http://kolob.amerikos.ru/morerroads/7.jpg
http://kolob.amerikos.ru/morerroads/3.jpg

http://kolob.amerikos.ru/morerroads/1.jpg


http://kolob.amerikos.ru/morerroads/4.jpg


http://kolob.amerikos.ru/morerroads/2.jpg

http://kolob.amerikos.ru/morerroads/5.jpg

http://kolob.amerikos.ru/morerroads/6.jpg

http://kolob.amerikos.ru/morerroads/8.jpg


http://kolob.amerikos.ru/morerroads/11.jpg
http://kolob.amerikos.ru/morerroads/12.jpg

http://kolob.amerikos.ru/morerroads/15.jpg

Pictures from English Russia: http://englishrussia.com/?p=1101#more-1101

[dimasorokine]

Armoblog, great find...that trailer looks like it weighs about 70 tons! Also, nice to see the new BAZ-6909 in service, it's really compact compared to the MAZ-537! Even though the BAZ is a very big truck.

-Dima

[TheArmenian]

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3139/autowprtn2.jpg
URAL-4320 towing a SU-24 fighter-bomber

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4366/autowphdz6.jpg
URAL-4320 towing a SU-25 strike aircraft

[TheArmenian]

UAZ Bars armoured vehicles during "Peace Mission 2007" exercises.

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/882/28888908mn5.jpg

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7076/70420121lz2.jpg

[Angrykirill]

Pictures from English Russia: http://englishrussia.com/?p=1101#more-1101

What is that MAZ carrying? Some sort of drilling equipment?

[MZKT]

What is that MAZ carrying? Some sort of drilling equipment?

Looks like a mast for S-300 search radar, just pulled by the older MAZ 537 instead of 543

http://www.ausairpower.net/S-300PMU-Battery-LL.gif

[Angrykirill]

Oh thank you, that explains why they were so quick to send a replacement vehicle.

[LEGEND]

its not replacement, on the site it says they brought the second one to try to pull it out together with the 537, but still couldnt get it out.

[Angrykirill]

Logical, thanks.

[TheArmenian]

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/3977/015bigkj9.jpg
GAZ-3308 of the Armenian Nagorno Karabagh Army carrying veterans during a parade. Front and rear differentials are clearly visible.

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/7644/36bignd6.jpg
GAZ-3308 trucks of the Armenian Army carrying AGS-30 automatic grenade launchers during a military parade in the capital Yerevan.

[dimasorokine]

Nice pics Armenian...though I'd bump this thread one more time :)

-Dima

[enforcer]

Stock of Kpa3 army truck - somewhere in Serbia

[dimasorokine]

I had to revive this thread :)

Gaz-66 in mud:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrTJCkgAavY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrTJCkgAavY)

New Kamaz-43501 for VDV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md7NxPiL7P0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md7NxPiL7P0)

And yours truly in his new T-Shirt, reppin tha Kraz crew yo:


-Dima

[Flamming_Python]

I looked through the entire topic and haven't seen this baby posted yet, so Ladies & Gentlemen without further adu, I present to you the ultimate off-roader, the ZIL-2906...

http://www.youtube.com/v/afJ18eJeNgU&hl=en

[Leo1]

GAZ-3308 trucks of the Armenian Army carrying AGS-30 automatic grenade launchers during a military parade in the capital Yerevan.

Nitpick, those are AGS-17s, not AGS-30s. I don't think AGS-30 has been exported yet.

[dimasorokine]

Flamming Python, Its not a truck but pretty cool anyways...but I think it has a giant draw back that held it back from being mass produced: it can't drive on roads.

-Dima

[eskachig]

Flamming Python, Its not a truck but pretty cool anyways...but I think it has a giant draw back that held it back from being mass produced: it can't drive on roads.

-DimaIt has an amphibious wheeled carrier for that. I think it wasn't mass produced because it's sort of impractical and really single-purpose.

[LEGEND]

MAZ-537G
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/post-3355-1188239591_thumb.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/maz_537_l1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/maz537m-12.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/maz537-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/jino21_34086330.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/jino21_34081146.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/jino21_22796789.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/IMG_1081.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/_DustyStuff12.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/78013_91951317_Maz-537_.jpg

[LEGEND]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/202_01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/202_02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/202_03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/202_04.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/202_05.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/202_06.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/202_08.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/2337680810047363434TPDWlM_fs.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/2855150500047363434ReRqoe_fs.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/2909641990047363434FFhWdD_fs.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/71011_92038560_012_.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/71011_92038560_014_.jpg

Found them on a modeling website (planetarmor)

[Ronguild]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v246/Thiokol/2855150500047363434ReRqoe_fs.jpg


MAZ will not achieve enough speed to take-off ! p-)

[Unifil 37]

What is that MAZ carrying? Some sort of drilling equipment?

Can't find the picture! Is it removed?

[jupiter]

NIce trucks and very interesting thread!

[LEGEND]

Haven't seen updates to this thread in a while, heres a vid of what russian trucks are made for:
(Music not russian)
ZIL-131 STRONG!!!
http://www.liveleak.com/e/fa3_1251943282

[LEGEND]

Ural STRONG!;)

http://www.youtube.com/v/u6lBig8gdfM

[K-5]

thanks alot..really enteresting pics...
l have never seen this kind of long hulled trucks before...

wheels should be conneceted to electric motors...mechanic transmisson seems not possible...
GM7907 were powered by 1500Hp gas turbine, GTD-1500, also proposed to be used in T-80UM2 MBT. Only one or two of these chassis beds were built, unlike colossal ICBM they were supposed to carry.

[zekas]

One off-topic question please guys.
The Russian trucks may be are powerful and have many good specifications.
but why they don't have attractive appearance??

[FLIPO]

One off-topic question please guys.
The Russian trucks may be are powerful and have many good specifications.
but why they don't have attractive appearance??

Because they are working class cars, and not fashion ones.

[-Fighter-]

One off-topic question please guys.
The Russian trucks may be are powerful and have many good specifications.
but why they don't have attractive appearance??

What is a truck with an attractive appearance to you? Personally I think Ural looks bad ass.

[Flamming_Python]

One off-topic question please guys.
The Russian trucks may be are powerful and have many good specifications.
but why they don't have attractive appearance??

I don't know what you're talking about, to me Russian trucks scream sex on wheels :)

[zekas]

Because they are working class cars, and not fashion ones.

I know that well Mate.
but in my opinion U.S and West spend much money to make their military weapons much sexy.

[Cobra_Commander]

I know that well Mate.
but in my opinion U.S and West spend much money to make their military weapons much sexy.

maybe its just not practical enough for Russian truck makers to consider adding a little style to their designs, especially with the current level of financing that they have. at the moment, getting the job done is sufficient enough for their models.

[bababooey]

An observation. Anything Russian or Soviet made, to me, looks like its designed and built for old school, no BS, in your face, fvck em up and win, warfighting. I drive trucks, Mack trucks. IMO, the one's they make now, are lousy. 20 years ago, I wouldn't say that because they were truly built "Mack tough".

The trucks today are built by committee. Lowest cost, grab parts from the same bin and slap them on, get them out the door and pray the warranty expires before they break down, mentality.

I hope Russia doesn't go down that road of poor quality that we americans are forced to endure. Peace.

[Mr.Woland]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzEaPwIa9og&feature=related

[LEGEND]

One off-topic question please guys.
The Russian trucks may be are powerful and have many good specifications.
but why they don't have attractive appearance??

The new trucks look different, pretty much like the western ones, but to me the older classics like zil-131, ural-4320 or maz-537g look a lot more like a military truck should be, big mud terrain wheels, brutal appearance and rugged simpleness... No electronics to freeze at -40C, no ECUs to flood, just gears and oil.

[GerLatvia!]

any info how much tigers will be build? wikipedia say they will be build 1.000 a year but are ther correct numbers for the army???