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Hellfish

10-05-2006, 04:28 PM

I'm not against planning a crisis, but how would we make it convincing? Anything we contrive could be denied by the existing regime.

Atlantic Friend

10-05-2006, 04:33 PM

I'm not against planning a crisis, but how would we make it convincing? Anything we contrive could be denied by the existing regime.

Assassination of a powerful opposition figure, one that has partisans locally. Of course the government will deny hotly, but frankly, who will believe that, particularly if the assassins are linked to some governmental group ?

Confuses the government, weakens the opposition, cuts the exiles from their local networks, angers the Western public opinion, worries international investers. The stage is pretty much set.

Cue our priest, who will only have to pick for reasons to criticize the government and become the opposition's figurehead, propped up by the forces you will have assembled for a quick regime change.

Hellfish

10-05-2006, 04:34 PM

Easier said than done. There's a whole lot of complications involved in that.

Atlantic Friend

10-05-2006, 04:39 PM

Easier said than done. There's a whole lot of complications involved in that.

Of course there are ! But it's the only option I can think of that weakens both opposition and government and clears the way for a third group. Plus, it's a plot other nations and their public opinions are ready to believe.

Hellfish

10-05-2006, 05:04 PM

I still don't think public opinion in the West means anything. As long as the oil isn't disrupted I don't think there will be a problem.

Cpl Steiner

10-05-2006, 08:37 PM

Very interesting thread,thats why i signed up and i hope to post my plan by the weekend.:)

Hellfish

10-05-2006, 08:47 PM

As soon as a couple more people post their plans we can move on to the next country. ;)

mFTES

10-05-2006, 09:29 PM

How about getting a couple of pundits in one of the western network news channels (FOX News, CNN, MSNBC, etc) in your pocket? You could also simultaneously feed false info to a popular blog.

News from EG would probably be hard to come by, so you could use the pundits and blogs to make SOME doubt -- any little doubt could cause the western public to hesitate to take action. The truth will eventually get out, but hopefully the new regime would be in place by then -- and the mercs out, swimming in their money.

A few ideas:
1) Have the controlled (they don't need to know that they're being controlled) pundits and blogs constantly bombard the public with facts about the corruption of the previous regime and the personal excesses of the HVTs.

2) Have the controlled pundits and blogs use the words "revolution" and "uprising" instead of "coup"

3) Play the race card: If any of the white mercs on our forces dies, make him look like a civilian tourist and take pictures. Insinuate the EG's current regime is responsible (well, they are, but you know what I mean). Sure sickening to use a buddy's corpse like that, so maybe scratch this one.

Whitcomb

10-05-2006, 09:38 PM

I would post a plan, but I don'y know enough about the whole planning a military operation to do one, so I may leave this one to the pros and then possibly contribute to the next one. All the plans so far have been good, especially hellfishes

Mr Kaizer

10-06-2006, 04:22 AM

Ngati Tumatauenga

10-06-2006, 05:05 AM

Yeah, same here. Hellfish6, do we have permission to use your plan setup as a template?:)

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/7-8/ch2.htm#s1p3

Try that.

Loopster

10-06-2006, 05:30 AM

Where to... in Malabo:

Rent cars (Toyota an Suzuki pick ups)> SEGAMI - GRUPO CFAO

Calle Rey Boncoro, Apd 521. Phone +240 090769 Fax +240 090692

Rent choppers CHC - Canadian Helicopters International (Africa) (PTY) Ltd

Aeropuerto de Malabo. Phone +240 274090

Private Security SONAVI (the same that train the Security Forces an also secure many gov. compounds)

Calle Ipesa. Phone +240 090708

Take a big party with showgirls Sport

Calle Acacio Mane. Phone +240 091296

Loopster

10-06-2006, 06:07 AM

Last stimation about number of Moroccan troops in Obiang's guard is that they're comprised by about 350 men.

Armed Forces are comprised by 1,350 Army, and a hundred in Air Force and Navy each. This leaves to the QRF (Fuerza de Acción Rápida) with a total of 1,200-1,300 men.

iflu

10-06-2006, 06:07 AM

16 OBr SpN

10-06-2006, 06:54 AM

Interesting thread. I haven't been here a long time, but I think the quality of the forum is getting better.

I read many things been said already: human intelligence, signal intelligence, careful planning, low profile etc.
I only want to add religious leaders in the country. They can help mobilize the masses. If I understand correctly, population there is mostly Catholic. If necessary focus is given to this matter, I think it will greatly help the overall mission goal. But one should be careful because in authoritarian countries, religious leaders are subject to monitoring by both domestic and foreign intelligence services, plus they will probably brief their leaders in Vatican; and if approach is not executed professionally, your personnel will attract great amount of attention which can be fatal.

Flagg

10-06-2006, 07:02 AM

Asheren

10-06-2006, 07:21 AM

Hellfish
Time bewen entering outskirts of city and assault?

Mr Kaizer

10-06-2006, 09:22 AM

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/7-93/Apph.htm

Try that.

Wow, nice! *bookmark* Thanks alot man!

Hellfish

10-06-2006, 09:41 AM

It seems to me that there is a need for MILITARYGAME section...

After 51 pages of discussion, my question is what is the TARGET? I saw a name list while no any target. Is the target to KILL them? Is the target to ARREST them and TRANSFER them to some domestic groups? Is the target to KIDNAP them to some third country? Or even it is a game, plz design the game carefully if you have gone to such detail...

Its up to you. You just need to remove them from power.

Interesting thread. I haven't been here a long time, but I think the quality of the forum is getting better.

I read many things been said already: human intelligence, signal intelligence, careful planning, low profile etc.
I only want to add religious leaders in the country. They can help mobilize the masses. If I understand correctly, population there is mostly Catholic. If necessary focus is given to this matter, I think it will greatly help the overall mission goal. But one should be careful because in authoritarian countries, religious leaders are subject to monitoring by both domestic and foreign intelligence services, plus they will probably brief their leaders in Vatican; and if approach is not executed professionally, your personnel will attract great amount of attention which can be fatal.

A page or two back Atlantic Friend and I describe a supplemental plan to use a Catholic priest to take power immediately after the coup. Nobody could argue against replacing a butcher with a man of God.

Hellfish
Time bewen entering outskirts of city and assault?

I allotted 45 minutes to get in place and an additional 15 minutes of "fudge" time.

Asheren

10-06-2006, 04:19 PM

Hmm quite tight if you ask me considering that there might be some sort of government forces presence at outskirts considering their leader paranoia there might be some sort of checkpoint. Main problem i see with your plan is that you might not be able to prevent evacuation of some peoples from presidental complex if they get informed by someone seeing your forces entering city. If someone influental enough like president escapes via air or sea most propably he might call that hinds form main land with their support they could most propably mount counterattack before you can secure power.

perdurabo

10-07-2006, 02:57 PM

helfish did you thought about using gun truck? uparmored Ural, ZIL or czech Tatra with 12.5 could be helpfull as backup in case of harder resistance, also what do you thinkabout putting mortars on trucks? it could mobile artilery - rather 60mm or afther strenghtening maybe 81mm?

stoddy9311

10-07-2006, 06:58 PM

My plan

Assassinate the president’s son in LA, South Africa or Paris (exact location can be found through various means). Claim to the worlds press that a dissident Cameroon rebels with Communist links carried out the hit in retaliation for atrocities carried out against fellow countrymen in Equatorial Guinea. This should hopefully encourage the Equatorial Guinea forces to Mass near Cameroon border on the mainland.

At the same time, recruit ex soldiers, through a fake security company (50).Choose mainly ex infantry/special forces types, single, with previous trigger time.

Move troops to India charter a freighter vessel and purchase weapons on black market

AK47’s, recoilless rifles x 5 2x heavy mortars, 5 heavy machine guns 50 cal or 7.62, (GPMG, M2 or Dshk etc). and enough ammunition to sustain 50 troops for 5 days.

Purchase 5 Toyota hiluxs and 5 unimogs(or similar).
Mount heavy machine guns on Hilux’s and recoilless rifles on the Unimogs.

Load ship and move to staging area off the Cameroon coast.
Use this travelling time for weapons testing and team training.

In the mean time, deploy a small team to Cameroon, posing as Journalists.
Spread rumours of genocide against Cameroon civilians in Malabo; preferably employ someone with previous Psyops experience to lead this
.Try and recruit Local militias with in Cameroon, and use these irregular forces to carry out cross border operations against civilian targets within EGuinea (oilfields, logging sites etc).give these forces promises of sharing in the wealth if EGuinea regime is toppled.

If this can be achieved, then move the operation forward to the main assault of Malabo, as detailed below.
http://www.atqz44.dsl.pipex.com/attack%20plan.jpg

Strike 1 hour before first light

Mix up teams with heavy weapons and recoilless rifle vehicles.

Land 1 team to the north to attack the Hinds at the LZ, and to hold the LZ.

Land rest of force south of Palace, at the Marina. And move the freighter to the LZ area

Assault simultaneously the palace to the north east (as highlighted) and the main army barracks to the East (as highlighted).

Strike hard and fast, and show no mercy.

Regroup forces and secure palace. Locate president and execute.

Hopefully the news of the death of the president will encourage the opposition parties to take over.

Fall back teams to freighter and depart to the north.

ENDEX.

Tea and medals all round

James

10-07-2006, 07:08 PM

Maybe you should assassinate the president's son AFTER you've gotten your guys hired, organized, equipped, and trained.

Why are you going all the way to India for a ship? That's an awfully long way from the West Coast of Africa.

stoddy9311

10-07-2006, 07:32 PM

I chose india, as not to draw too much attention in africa.could be somewhere closer, but I would use the sailing time for training.

plus equipment might be easier to purchase in india.

as for the assasination of the presidents son, I would carry this out before, to try and stir some unrest in the country, and maybe drive the president into a state of severe paranoia, thus making him stay in the capital.

I honestly believe it could be possible to carry out a op like this.

keep it simple , no fancy plan or exotic equipment, just well trained and motivated troops, with straightforward objectives and goals.

it would be easier to control and execute.

TacoDelRio

10-07-2006, 07:51 PM

India has a large, cheap (poor) ship salvage industry. Old ships pull into port, and are turned into scrap.

stoddy9311

10-07-2006, 08:14 PM

http://www.ofbindia.nic.in

one stop shop in india

a Mercs supermarketp-)

Cpl Steiner

10-07-2006, 11:53 PM

This is my initial plan,the nitty gritty will follow (cost,Cmnd & ctrl, et cetera)

Operation Texas Tea

Cmdrs Intent

Strike force Oilwell will carry out a noisy deliberate attack against the president of Equatorial Guinea’s palace and his presidential guard barracks and destroy all enemy forces.

Concept of ops

SF Oilwell will carry out Op Texas Tea in four phases.

1st phase will be the HELO infil of 25 IPFC teams (indigenous protection force commanders) who will be tasked with the recruitment, equipping and training of indigenous protection forces (IPF’s)

2nd phase will be the incursion of OP1 who will infil, move to and observe the Malabo airfield.

3rd phase will be the deliberate attack against the guard barracks and presidential palace.

4th phase will be an Air transport assault on the Malabo airfield.

Mission

Phase 1
On D-60 25 IPFC’s will infil by HELO the mainland of EG from a wet leased IL-76 transport aircraft.(leased in Cambodia.)

The IPFC’s will consist of 25 two man teams who each will parachute in with enough equipment to arm and train 50 IPF’s soldiers.

The IPFC’s will drop into 25 different DZ’s that will be within 100km of EG’s borders with Cameroon and Gabon.

Once training is completed they will deploy to within 25km of the borders and then maintain a radio listening watch.They will be in position no later than D-3.

Phase 2

On D-2 OP 1 (four men) will infil via two klepper canoes, to a landing site that will be left to the OP cmdrs discretion ,conceal the canoes and then move inland towards the Malabo airfield where they will set up and maintain an OP.

On D+1hr OP 1 will link up with Charlie assault team.

Phase 3

D+1hr assault teams Alpha and Bravo (16 assaulters and 8 heli crews) will conduct an heliborne deliberate attack on the Barracks and palace simultaneously.

The assaulting force will comprise of four helicopters (2 Bell 206 jetrangers and 2 UH-1N troop transporters)

The jetrangers will fly in ahead of the UH-1N’s and bomb their objectives with eight rucksack bombs (combination of PE-4 and shipyard confetti.)
They will then fly an overwatch orbit and be ready to engage any ground targets of opportunity with their door mounted MMG’s.

The UH-1N’s carrying twelve assaulters will land in the centre of the palace/barracks and deploy them by hover jump.

The assaulters will then clear and secure their objectives.

Phase 4

D+1hr Assault team Charlie (simultaneously with Alpha & Bravo) will land at the Malabo airfield inside the wet leased IL-76 and deploy in two BMP 2’s and on Motorcross bikes (22 men excluding IL-76 crew)

With thunderclap surprise they will break down into three fire teams and assault the ATC tower, destroy the two hind gunships and assault the airfield fire station.

The two BMP’s will them move to Eastern entrance to the airfield and guard the road to Malabo city.

The firestation fire team will commandeer the fire engines and park them along the runway thus blocking it off for over inbound aircraft.

The ATC team will inform all inbound aircraft that the airfield is closed and advice them to divert to Nigeria.

TacoDelRio

10-08-2006, 02:17 AM

Watch, the EG gov't will complain to Google about the images, and EG's port/s will be one big pixel!

Ngati Tumatauenga

10-08-2006, 02:28 AM

Alright, here's the bones of my plan. I don't think I'll get the time to finish it due to unforeseen circumstances so in the interests of keeping the thread ticking over with input i'll throw it in as is.

Feel free to pick it apart, cannibalise it for your own plan or shoot it down in flames. Having done a number of these TEWTs over the years I've come to understand that many people involved tend to get parochial about 'their' plan and steadfastly defend it no matter what. At the end of the day this is a theoretical discussion and no plan survives first contact with the enemy.

I haven't had access to Google Earth for the last week and a bit so I'm not posting any imagery of the TAI's at this stage.

I'll start off with an outline concept of ops then a breakdown of task organisation followed by outline of weapons and ammunition first lines.

I've already sourced the major items of equipment on the net and have posted picture of them where possible previously. If you want me to post the pics again just ask.

I'm not going to go into detail of recruitment and specific ancillary equipment sourcing.

Concept of Operations

Mission: To remove the existing regime of Equatorial Guinea by force in order to enable a controlled government to be installed in it's place.

Intent: To conduct a silent night attack employing speed, aggression and firepower in order to overwhelm local security forces and enable the primary objective to be secured in the shortest possible time.

Execution: The operation will be conducted in four phases.

Prelims: Humint team will conduct IPB up until last safe moment.
Phase 1: Battle prep
Phase 2: Move from concentration area to FRV.
Phase 3: Move from FRV to FUP's.
Phase 4: Assault.
Phase 5: Withdrawal.

Outline Tasks

Phase 1: Battle prep.

Freighter crew Facilitate cross loading of task force to LC. Assist helo crew with battle prep.
Landing craft crew Facilitate cross loading of task force to LC. Assist vehicle crews with battle prep.

Helo crew Conduct final battle prep.
C2 team Maintain C3I
Humint/S2 cell *1 Move to FRV
Team One (APOD) Conduct final battle prep.
Team Two (Power Station) Conduct final battle prep.
Team Three (Mount Basillé) Conduct final battle prep.
Team Four (cordon) Conduct final battle prep.
Team Five (Presidential compound) Conduct final battle prep.
Team six (Force Reserve) Conduct final battle prep.

Phase 2: Move from concentration area to FRV.
All C/S less Humint cell, move from CA to FRV via freighter and LC.

Phase 3: Move from FRV to FUP's.

Freighter crew Launch helo, move to a position offshore of presidential compound.
Landing craft crew Land vehicles. move to a position offshore of presidential compound.

Helo crew Move to IP. BPT receive confirmatory orders.

C2 team Marry up with Humint team for sitrep. BPT deliver confirmatory orders.

Humint/S2 cell Marry up with C2 team and deliver sitrep.

Team One (APOD) BPT receive confirmatory orders.
Mve to FUP.

Team Two (Power Station) BPT receive confirmatory orders.
Marry up with Humint guide. Mve to FUP.

Team Three (Mount Basillé) BPT receive confirmatory orders.
Marry up with Humint guide. Mve to FUP.

Team Four (cordon) BPT receive confirmatory orders.
Mve to FUP.

Team Five (Presidential compound) BPT receive confirmatory orders.
Marry up with Humint guide. Mve to FUP's.

Team six (Force Reserve) BPT receive confirmatory orders.
Marry up with Humint guide.

Phase 4 Assault.

Freighter crew - Provide cut-off on seaward side of presidential compound

Landing craft crew – Provide cut-off on seaward side of presidential compound.

Helo crew - Initially conduct rocket runs on Presidential guard barracks till its gone. Provide fire support to assaulting elements. Priority of support; 1. Team Five. 2. Team Four. 3. Team One. Rtn to freighter FARP as necessary.

C2 team - Maintain C3I throughout taskforce

Humint/S2 cell - Assist supported element as necessary.

Team One (APOD) – Neutralise APOD, block reinforcements from the west

Team Two (Power Station) - Neutralise organic security. Neutralise power station. Deny resumption of services for no less than three hours.

Team Three (Mount Basillé) – Neutralise organic security. Neutralise radio and transmission facilities. Deny resumption of services for no less than twenty four hours.

Team Four (cordon) - Form cordon around primary objective. Deny reinforcements access to pres compound. Cut-off escape routes to ‘squirters’ from pri obj.
Alpha - Block to the west of the Presidential compound.
Bravo - Block to the southwest of the Presidential compound.
Charlie - Block to the southeast of the Presidential compound.
Delta - Block to the east of the Presidential compound.

Team Five (Presidential compound) Assault presidential compound kill all HVTs
Alpha – assault Assault compound. Kill all HVTs
Bravo - fire support Conduct final target recce prior to assault. Provide fire support for assault.
Charlie – C2 provide C2

Team six (Force Reserve) BPT reinforce where necessary.

Phase 5 Withdrawal.

Freighter crew - Move to Ancien port, stand off outside SA range.
Landing craft crew - Move to Ancien port. Load task force.
Helo crew - Cover withdrawal. Rtn to freighter FARP as necessary.
C2 team - Move to Ancien port
Humint/S2 cell - Move to Ancien port
Team One (APOD) - Move to Ancien port
Team Two (Power Station) - Move to Ancien port
Team Three (Mount Basillé) - Move to Ancien port
Team Four (cordon) - Move to Ancien port
Team Five (Presidential compound) - Move to Ancien port
Team six (Force Reserve) - Move to Ancien port

Key timings: TBA

Key locations: TBA

Force break down.

GroupingForeignersLocals

Freighter crew 1 4
Landing craft crew12
Helo crew 3
C2 team 2 1
Humint/S2 cell *1 4
Team One (APOD) 2 6
Team Two (Power Station) 1 3
Team Three (Mount Basillé) 26
Team Four (cordon)
Alpha 1 4
Bravo 1 4
Charlie 1 4
Delta 1 4
Team Five (Presidential compound)
Alpha - assault 15 6
Bravo - fire support 3 6
Charlie – C2 2
Team six (Force Reserve) 10

Total 50 50

Before anyone comments, I'm not interested in the long term or even the short term aftermath. The overall objective is to remove the regime so as soon as the pres is dead my objective is complete. That's what the sponsors want, not a nation building campaign.

As for legalities, the whole operation is illegal therefore the ends justify the means.

Weapons and ammo to follow.

goat89

10-08-2006, 02:32 AM

Aye, I hate to say that, but I agree. We have our own asses to watch too. Awaiting Weapons & Ammo detail.

Hellfish

10-08-2006, 02:51 AM

Very nice plan, Ngati! Stupid question - what's APOD? Airport?

Ngati Tumatauenga

10-08-2006, 02:57 AM

Sorry, yes. APOD, Airport. SPOD, Sea port.

I'll include a battle brief at the end of the weapons and ammo to tie everything together.

Ngati Tumatauenga

10-08-2006, 04:55 AM

Weapons

GroupingPersWeapons

Freighter crew 5 2x PKM, 2xRPG-7V
Landing craft crew3 2x PKM, 2xRPG-7V
Helo crew 3 3xAKMS/BG-15, 3xSigP226
C2 team 2 2xAKMS/BG-15, 2xSigP226
Humint/S2 cell 4 4xAKMS/BG-15, 4xSigP226

Team One (APOD) 8 6xAKMS/BG-15, 8xSigP226, 2x PKM, 2xRPG-7V, 1x60mm mortar
Team Two (Power Station) 4 3xAKMS/BG-15, 4xSigP226, 1x PKM, 1xRPG-7V, 1xRPO-A
Team Three (Mount Basillé)8 6xAKMS/BG-15, 8xSigP226, 2x PKM, 2xRPG-7V, 2xRPO-A
Team Four (cordon)
Alpha 4 3xAKMS/BG-15, 4xSigP226, 1x PKM, 1xRPG-7V, 1x60mm mortar
Bravo 4 3xAKMS/BG-15, 4xSigP226, 1x PKM, 1xRPG-7V, 1x60mm mortar
Charlie 4 3xAKMS/BG-15, 4xSigP226, 1x PKM, 1xRPG-7V, 1x60mm mortar
Delta 4 3xAKMS/BG-15, 4xSigP226, 1x PKM, 1xRPG-7V, 1x60mm mortar
Team Five (Presidential compound)
Alpha - assault 21 21xAKMS/BG-15, 21xSigP226
Bravo - fire support 9 3xAW SR, 6xAKMS/BG-15, 9xSigP226, 3xPKM, 3xRPG-7V, 3xRPO-A
Charlie – C2 2 2xAKMS/BG-15, 2xSigP226
Team six (Force Reserve) 10 8xAKMS/BG-15, 10xSigP226, 2xPKM, 2xRPG-7V

Ammunition
(Per Weapon)

WeaponQuantity

AKMS 10 x mags
PKM1000rds
P226 3 x mags
RPG-7V 2 PG-7VL, 2x OG-7V
DSHK 600 Rds
SPG-9 2x PG-9V, 4x OG-9G
RPO-A 3 rds
BG-156 rds HE
AW SR 50 rds
60mm 40 HE 10 smk 10 IR illum
M-67 HE grenades 4 per man (Team Five 10 per man)
M18 Smk screening 1 per man
WP 1 per man
M18A1 CDF 26 (Team one, four, six)

NB 1. Two first line per weapon system held in reserve on LC.

NB 2. All AKM's suppressed and mounted with IRADs. All pers equipped with NVMs. All pers and vehicles equiped with IR strobes and reflective patches.

Vehicles

GroupTypeNumber

Maritime support Coastal freighter/Landing Craft1 each
Air Support MI-8T1
Team One (APOD) LR/Hilux2
Team Two (Power Station) LR/Hilux1
Team Three (Mount Basillé) LR/Hilux 2
Team Four (cordon)LR/Hilux 4
Team Five (Presidential compound) Appropriated trucks3
Team six (Force Reserve) LR/Hilux 2

NB 1. Humint team will procure 3x Hilux’s locally
NB 2. DSHKs and SPG-9s divided between the LR/Hiluxes.

Battle Brief

The landing craft(LC) will RV with the freighter over the horizon from Malabo at dusk. After cross decking the assault force they will then move a position off Malabo. Pre H hour, the LC will move to the FRV and land the task group(TG). The freighter will move into a position 1km off the presidential compound.
The TG will marry up with the Humint team, receive any last minute intel, conduct confirmatory orders as necessary. Group elements will then move to their respective FUP's.
Team Five, Bravo det will conduct confirmatory recce of Presidential palace and set up fire support positions. H hour on command. All teams will emplace and activate organic cell phone jammers. LC and freighter move to positions within SA range of the seaward side of the Presidential compound.

On H hour Teams Two and Tree move first and neutralise their objectives. Once the power goes down, the assault of the presidential compound and the rocket runs on the Presidential Guard(PG) commence. Concurrently the blocks move into position and Team One takes the APOD.

Team Six stands by to reinforce as required.

Once HVTs are dead, all elements withdraw to the Ancien Port. Re-embark the LC and sail for international waters.

I'll post actions on, key timings and locations later if I get the time.

stoddy9311

10-08-2006, 11:47 AM

Cpl Steiner and Ngati Tumatuenga!

good plans!!:)

and when do we get the green light:)

I bet MI6/NSA/CIA/GCHQ are ****ting bricks wondering why so many people a Google Earthing Malabo!!and from all other the world:)

Hellfish

10-08-2006, 02:57 PM

Ngati - why so few RPO and SPG-9 rounds? I figure since you've got vehicle support you could probably double that load easily. I could see going through that much ammo in about a minute of sustained firing.

Ngati Tumatauenga

10-08-2006, 03:34 PM

In a word, weight. If you work out the loads the vehicles will be pushing it as it is.

Don't forget I have twice that much for each weapon held in reserve. That's the 'NB' comment about the first line at the bottom of the ammo state.

Beer Monster

10-11-2006, 10:49 AM

I must admit this has been one of the best reads on MP.net. Fantastic and well thought out ideas.

The only small point I'd say at the moment (and as James suggested earlier on in the thread) is to use the Toyota brand of vehicles and of the Toyota vehicles use the Landcrusier pickup (75 Series). They are a common sight in West Africa (more so than a hilux) and less likely to draw attention. They are also less likely to break down when compared to a Landrover.

There is a saying that Landrover discovered africa but toyota conquered it.

Just my 19.3 XAF (2 pence)

Atlantic Friend

10-11-2006, 10:53 AM

Just thinking aloud : shouldn't the "operatives" have weapons using the same ammo as the Guinean military, so they could use captured/allied local ammo dumps in case of a prolonged battle ?

Hellfish

10-11-2006, 11:24 AM

Just thinking aloud : shouldn't the "operatives" have weapons using the same ammo as the Guinean military, so they could use captured/allied local ammo dumps in case of a prolonged battle ?

AFAIK the ammo dumps are all well outside of the city limits. Most EG weapons would be SovBloc anyways, and I think just about everyone's plan calls for using those anyways.

Beer Monster

10-11-2006, 11:33 AM

Did anyone settle on a time of year? Not all roads are tarmac which could make for difficult movement during the rain (http://www.southtravels.com/africa/eqguinea/weather.html)s. Although though this could also work in our favour.

Hellfish

10-11-2006, 11:34 AM

No, I don't think anyone did. Only time requirement was that the op must be ready 6 months after signing the dotted line.

Loopster

10-11-2006, 11:38 AM

Infantry Weapons - Equatorial Guinea

Pistols: 7.62mm Tokarev

Sub-machine guns: 9mm MAT-49

Rifles: 7.62mm CETME; 7.62mm AK-47/AKM; 7.62mm SKS

Machine guns: 7.62mm RPD/RPK; 7.62mm SGM; 7.62mm Type 67; 7.62mm RP-46; 12.7mm DShK

Mortars: 82mm M37

Ammo are located inside the presidential complex, and protected by SONAVI troops (the guineans trained by BT of Israel). So choose your weapons and take the dumps quickly ;)

Loopster

10-11-2006, 11:56 AM

Some more images intel:

http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/9706/paramp1zj4.jpg

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/2027/paramp2hp3.jpg

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8643/paramp3ex4.jpghttp://img170.imageshack.us/img170/8286/paramp4yl5.jpg

sup_tech

10-11-2006, 02:55 PM

Why are so many mortars?
If you used the ArmyBuilder (c) you should've known that mortars are "Heavy1" and you cannot assault after the firing faze.
(chuckles)

Hellfish

10-11-2006, 02:57 PM

Why are so many mortars?
If you used the ArmyBuilder (c) you should've known that mortars are "Heavy1" and you cannot assault after the firing faze.
(chuckles)

What the hell are you talking about? Its too early in the day to drink vodka.

sup_tech

10-11-2006, 03:19 PM

What the hell are you talking about? Its too early in the day to drink vodka.
http://www.wolflair.com/rightframe.php?context=army_builder&page=product_details
Don't be so ignorant.

rofl

Hellfish

10-11-2006, 03:29 PM

http://www.wolflair.com/rightframe.php?context=army_builder&page=product_details
Don't be so ignorant.

rofl

Right............

bluffcove

10-26-2006, 06:15 PM

no more thoughts then?

I momentarily thoughtthis thread had been closed by EQ internet warriors!

but it turns out an airsoft geek just killed it with his crappy joke

Hellfish

10-26-2006, 06:17 PM

I'm still trying to convince someone to do Part 2.

bluffcove

10-26-2006, 06:21 PM

I was always tempted jsut to do it as a bank job.
forget taking the nation, jsut bust the doors off the bank vault and take the cash.

Hydro

10-26-2006, 06:49 PM

Like a Heat scenario, only hopefully avoiding the fighting withdrawal down the street?

bluffcove

10-26-2006, 07:30 PM

Well i dont know, De Niro seemed to do quite well out of it.
Only problem is the funding was given on the proviso you took power. So presumably the man bankrolling the gig doesnt just wnat you to take the money and run.

Now if i was freelancing it - have you got any loose change down the back of your sofa and a heli-bedford? I feel a field trip coming on. :D

stoddy9311

10-28-2006, 03:10 AM

I own a 13ton Excavator, the only thing I need to Rob a Bankp-)

BloodyTalon

11-01-2006, 04:24 AM

bluffcove

11-01-2006, 09:23 AM

More exactly what does your girlfriend like drinking? and does she swallow?

Asheren

11-01-2006, 09:48 AM

Alright, I finally have time to settle down and write a book about some mercs overthrowing an African country...mainly because my (now ex) girlfriend is drunk little whore that will jump on any cock available, but that's besides point. Right now I have some questions for the sake of the plot:

What's the average age of a mercenary? I know that the majority of them are hardened veterans, so that means they're older than the average soldier. Right now I'm thinking of making the youngest mercenary 28 and the oldest 47.

How exactly does someone become a mercenary? Do they just buy some guns and a ticket to the Congo or are there groups of mercs similar in structure to Blackwater or EO that actively recruit soldiers fresh out of service?

Just a rough estimate, but which nationality(s) are mercs most likely to be? I'm thinking the mercenaries will be from the US, South Africa, Eastern Europe, and Southeast Asia.

Finally, right now I'm torn between making the leader that the mercenaries are meant to dispose a totalitarian dictator or a Marxist president who takes a strong anti-corporation stance. Which do you guys think would make for a more realistic or engrossing story?

Propably you could make s load of diffrent explanations. They might not necessary be that old it could be someone expeled from military, any sort of secret agencies or security bussines. Not sure about other countries but in mine such jobs offen require clean criminal record. It doesn't matter what crime it is if judges decide you are guilty its over. I heard quite offen about guys that lost their license for various reasons. Such guys end up sometimes in criminal orgs and such due to their knowledge how security works are quite valuable assets.

Whitcomb

11-01-2006, 12:04 PM

Talon, tell your ex about me, im single:-)

martinexsquaddie

11-01-2006, 12:26 PM

freddie forysth wrote the manual of overthrowing a small african country Dogs of war.
while the initial assualt can be pulled off by mercs you need a relativly honest charasimatic local who can win the hearts and minds of the locals and get the state functioning again.
if he's in jail or in exile he's the lynch pin to the entire op without him your just a bunch of heavily armed white guys and every other african country going to use it as an excuse to go in and liberate the country as in the congo :(

bluffcove

11-01-2006, 04:25 PM

Ask Maggie Thatcher's son Mark - Im sure he'd entertain your ideas!!!

Hellfish

11-01-2006, 05:13 PM

...when he gets out of a Zimbabwean gulag.

Bahamian

02-04-2007, 05:34 AM

Even tho. I feel stupid for bumping this thread:

I want to see some new replies on here p-)

James

02-04-2007, 01:45 PM

Even tho. I feel stupid for bumping this thread:

I want to see some new replies on here p-)

Perhaps you should start your own thread... Pick a small country somewhere, come up with an outline of what your objectives are, and make a budget. ;)

You don't need to overthrow a country and install a new government - a raid of some sort might be interesting to plan as well.

lightfire

02-04-2007, 08:56 PM

Wow...

Just finished reading the whole thread...
Needless to repeat-amazing hilarious thread, honestlly the best on mp.net eva,great-original idea, piss jokes bringing to tears, a scenario for whatever you like-a book, a film, a true/real event (omg...p-) ) or another alike thread.

except few attempts to flame or enter smth lame it's absolutelly the best! Congrats Hellfish, had I some extra $25mln, I would give it to the MP.net coup ploters team straightaway, a good investment perhapsp-)

I bet if anyone of EQG officials were reading this, they were and perhaps still are sh*ting their pants, preparing for the iminent upcoming invasion :)

So I gues ze PLAN is underway then now, for everyone's kept silent for mothsp-)

It is sad to spot accidentlly this thread after so much time, but beter someday than never. For once I was looking some intel on EQ and Malabo itself. Military strength,key points etc.

The reason was simple-in 2000 lithuanian merchant ship "Rytas"was intercepted in international waters not far away from Malabo. (folow if interested) By the patrool boats, armed with HMGs, angry chaps with AKs, PKMs and RPGs. That gives at least some impression of EQ navy (at least at that time). The ship was boarded, brought to Malago and looted (the reason for interception,borading and "confiscacion" was accusission of "illeagal fishing EQG waters, though the ship did not have any fishing eqipmnt..), while the crew of lithuanian, russian and few other nationaliy citizens were arrested and held in custody. Simply piracy..

The Government has used all means to free the ship (through diplomatical chanels) and the crew, and when the "negotiations" have seamed to come to the dead end, a decission as nearly made to send the Special Forces. A clear note was made through diplomatical chanels+the preassure of the same diplomatic efforts (russians, americans, brits) and eventually the ship (half looted) and the crew were freed, just before the green light of the SF opperation.The details of this OP are still classified, however there's a bunch of intel gathered, particularry of Malabo, its defences etc. However At that time,with allied support (air cover, naval vessels) it was concidered that it is possible to knock out substantially not only looters but also some key elements in EQG government.I.e. strike fast, hard to remember-"don't you try that again, we can f*uck you up and your whole dictatorship government quite fast*.
So, my congrats, you've chosen a nice country for a coup. If you succed in this, some bigger "projects" awaits youp-)

p.s.

yes I know this is just...this is not a real thing... yetp-)

dacanadianbomb

02-04-2007, 09:02 PM

Actually one could plan a raid on "Sealand" if you know what I mean

Mastermind

02-06-2007, 04:45 PM

I will use the $5 million to bribe the head of the military and tell him he would get a cut of the profits from oil and gas. Bloodless and The first Asain guy to be in charge of an Afrcan country. I will rename it Black Texas.
The Republic of Black Texas...Yeah! I'm moving there as soon as it gets settled and a few casinos open up.

Well, how would I take over a country...Hmmm...first the selection is important...gotta be a nation with people who are accustomed to making money. Money being the root of all evil, I would not use my cash to bother with military operations. It would have to be a bloodless coup. It would have to be an operation with results that would be favored by most Western and European nations. I would move very slowly at first, making close friends with the pwoers in charge at the time. I woudl alos enlist helps from very wealthy foregin finaciers with the promise of outrageous moeny laundering and tax free operations within the new country. the potentates in charge before the coup would be winned and dinned on my very special yachts. I would make them almost totally dependant on me for their very special treatment and ultimately they would make a deal. Naturally, as soon as such happend, my minions would move in and begin establishing the playground for the rich and famous...anything goes, and all drugs are perfectly legal (but tightly controlled). I would make it a most favored place for all manner of doctors and lawyers. I would set it up as a haven for very wealthy wanted people...white collar crmes only. Also, marriage/divorce laws would be very liberal and all in favor of the man.Religon would be banned. Absolutely no extradition agreements with any other nations. Eventually, the previous leaders (pre-coup) would be gently marginalized as colorful figure heads...the atmosphere would be like Mardi Gras every day. Sex, drink, gambling, drugs, business, safety, money and more money would be the new nations goals....Every politicain's dream state.MM

SnakeBiteLeader

02-06-2007, 04:56 PM

^It's "Blaxas" in shorthand.

sp2c

02-07-2007, 06:49 AM

one question I miss is 'why' I'd go with 'because we can' or 'because it's awesome' or 'because I'd like to get stuck in the mud after dismounting from my boat and this seems to be as good a place as any' if it was free but at 25 million dollars I'd think there needs to be something to gain from it unless that money is paid by some government just to see what happens ;)

with 420.000 bbl (that's barrels right?) of crude oil per day (cia factbook 2005 estimate) at about 50 dollars per barrel you have to occupy the country and the oilfields for at least 2 days to see some kind of profit and 4 days to make it worth your while

am I right?

sounds difficult with so few men

Calanen

02-07-2007, 09:59 AM

Actually one could plan a raid on "Sealand" if you know what I mean

The last people who tried...lost, and were captured by the owner until the German government had to plead for their release.

Sealand had a huge fire relatively recently, so is up for sale.

Hellfish

03-26-2007, 04:19 PM

Small update. Found a lot of recent pics of the city, if anyone is still interested.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=439688

Ezekiel25:17

08-21-2007, 11:29 PM

Effing classic!!!!!!!!!

boone

08-21-2007, 11:33 PM

"I will rename it 'Black Texas'"

Ezekiel25:17

08-21-2007, 11:37 PM

You know it!!!

boone

08-21-2007, 11:41 PM

I think I had just started lurking about in the middle of this thing.

boone

08-21-2007, 11:49 PM

Ok, I'm a dork. Where's this section. Or is it one of those "Those who know? Know" kinda things?

boone

08-21-2007, 11:58 PM

That's me sorted, then. Thx!

(for the PM, I mean!)

Bahamian

08-31-2007, 06:50 PM

Some intel:

One of the the 2 Mi-24s piloted by Ukrainian mercs

Government BBJ
[img]http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=103582

Falcon 900
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=103584

An-32
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=103583

New pictures from the ground

New highway under construction
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/387074371_cfb5c88477_o.jpg

Spanish firms doing reconstructin in Malabo
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1048/785165145_434e30d7fb_b.jpg

Chinese construction booming
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1070/792401877_808d4e842c_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1357/792419427_e33bebf96f_o.jpg

New football stadium
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1185/792411873_c89806c1ea_o.jpg

Power generator?
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1265/793315662_8751941a0f_o.jpg

Government villas
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1090/530908849_daf42332ea_o.jpg

Malabo port
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1411/762075888_b60f4c622f_o.jpg

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/478/equatorialguineamalabopbm7.jpg

Jurpula

08-31-2007, 06:56 PM

Some intel:

One of the the 2 Mi-24s piloted by Ukrainian mercs
[imghttp://img519.imageshack.us/img519/4896/equatorial20guinea20mi2mp7.jpg[/img]

So we can buy 1 Mi-24 for a pack of Marlboro's and 100$ US. That should cut down the expenses a little:)

Ngati Tumatauenga

08-31-2007, 06:58 PM

I think it's time for a new task.

Bahamian

08-31-2007, 06:58 PM

So we can buy 1 Mi-24 for a pack of Marlboro's and 100$ US. That should cut down the expenses a little:)
You forgot the levis!

-->inside the new football stadium

http://www.indalux.es/portal/fotografias/mostrar_imagen.asp?photoid=343&phototype=2&ext=.jpg

http://www.indalux.es/portal/fotografias/mostrar_imagen.asp?photoid=344&phototype=2&ext=.jpg

Jurpula

08-31-2007, 07:55 PM

I think it's time for a new task.

Yeah, EG is done for.

Hellfish

08-31-2007, 09:34 PM

I asked about a half a dozen people to come up with a new target, none stepped up. I did my part for MP.net's world domination. :)

I was thinking about doing a "what if" command post exercise to wargame a Dutch response to a Venezuelan invasion of the Netherlands Antilles.

oswald

08-31-2007, 10:03 PM

That could attract some dumbarse candidates :)

Ngati Tumatauenga

08-31-2007, 10:19 PM

I asked about a half a dozen people to come up with a new target, none stepped up.

Yeah, I got caught up at work and forgot about it.

I'll come up with a scenario and then do some prelim research at work this week.

Should have something by next weekend.

Jeffb

02-20-2008, 02:27 PM

Hi,
Just recentley seen this thread. Just wondering if anyone has read "African Merc Combat Manual" it has everything you need to organise a merc op and it is specific to Africa. I have one, had it for over 20 yrs. its a bloody good read.

Jeff

Ps Has anyone mentioned that EG now have some SU-25's, so you'll need some kind of AA

sp2c

02-20-2008, 03:01 PM

so are we going, can I be in charge of something?

Hellfish

02-25-2008, 05:33 AM

Hellfish

03-01-2008, 03:46 AM

1. EQUATORIAL GUINEA: Gunmen traveling in speedboats attacked, robbed two banks,
05 Dec 07, Bata. Gunmen disguised as fishermen armed with light automatic weapons, stormed
two banks simultaneously, grabbing bags of cash and shooting passers-by before making off in
speedboats into the Atlantic Ocean. After exchanging fire with the masked attackers, Equatorial
Guinean security forces pursued them until they crossed into the territorial waters of Cameroon
(REUTERS).

http://www.nga.mil/MSISiteContent/StaticFiles/MISC/wwtts/wwtts_20071226100000.txt

Jurpula

03-01-2008, 03:51 AM

Coolhttp://img183.imageshack.us/img183/1597/iconyesfj0.gif

goat89

03-01-2008, 03:53 AM

Wpuldnt mind a second scenario on Venezuela attacking the Dutch colonies.

Jeffb

03-07-2008, 04:05 PM

I have "Coup D'Etat" by Edward Luttwak. Same thing?

Think its a different book, but i could be wrong

Slaaibak

05-06-2008, 06:31 PM

Okidoki.

In the meantime what about transportation? Jakkals maybe?

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5103/jakkalssouthafricasofex200401wo4.jpg

Light, cheap and for sale to anyone.
Where can I get one??

RA88IT

05-13-2008, 06:25 AM

I am new to this thread but I found it really really interesting.

Ironsight06

05-13-2008, 03:35 PM

Where can I get one??
Armscor Materiel Disposal

lightfire

05-19-2008, 11:57 PM

I was thinking...how about Myanmar/Burma? Same as in the begining of this thread, only in bigger scale (more people, perhaps more time, more money)

Hellfish

05-20-2008, 02:37 AM

lightfire

05-20-2008, 12:46 PM

There was talk about it when we revived this concept a couple months ago, but decided it was waaaay too massive to contemplate. Burma has a vast army, all with combat experience. It would make Iraq look like a cake walk.

Agreed, size and experience does matter, but the objective here would be not to engage the whole army, which, if the following table is correct, is quite..let's say dettering for any invasion.

Myanmar Army statistics:

Active Troops 492,250
Regional Military Commands 13
Infantry Divisions 34 (10 LID and 24 MOC)
Armour Divisions 2
Artillery Divisions 10
Tanks 5200
Artillery 13800

What is the level of insurgency and opposition against Junta? To topple the regime one can (theoretically) use combined force of opposition, bribery of local officers and intervention to know out the command. The greatest political pro and a condittion for the go would be China's approval and in fact, direct intervention in two levels: 1st - the bulk of the "dog's of war" private military company. A massive chineese Blackwatter annalouge. 2nd. direct chinese intervention as a stabilisation force under the UN flag, smth like in Kosovo.

The "Dogs of war" part is organize this private army with 250-300mln budget.

and,...

..naaah...who am i kidding, it's too big and complex in the end.. :(

How about Nepal? :)

TheRussian1

05-20-2008, 03:08 PM

5200 tanks? what????????????????

Hellfish

05-20-2008, 04:24 PM

Yeah, those statistics are pretty wonky. As I understand it, they have about 1000 tanks (including around 130 T-72S) and maybe 500 artillery pieces. They're mostly a light infantry army.

lightfire

05-20-2008, 05:49 PM

key targets:

Than Shwe
http://geoconger.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/general-than-shwe.jpg
Maung Aye
http://irrawaddy.org/articlefiles/7725-Maung_Aye.gif
Shwe Mann
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/09jLdvMbXyd2k/340x.jpg
Thein Sein
http://www.mmtimes.com/no390/pic/02.gif
baisically:

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/03P86YY83m48o/610x.jpg

the question - where are they located? Centralised location would be ideal for the strike (air strike, commando strike).

Hadamar

06-18-2008, 01:47 AM

Channel 4 News is covering the trial of Simon Mann.

June 16, 2008
http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/x5tjv6&related=0

June 17, 2000
http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/x5tjvo

June 18, 2008
http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/x5tzi4&related=0

Hadamar

06-20-2008, 02:26 AM

Channel 4 News, June 19, 2008
http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/x5ue7n

Aussie Sapper

06-20-2008, 02:29 AM

Can I make a suggestion,,, how about New Zealand??

boone

06-20-2008, 02:37 AM

Can I make a suggestion,,, how about New Zealand??
The entire concept of a coup presupposes that there is some reason to take over a country in the first place.
New Zealand does not meet this criteria.

Aussie Sapper

06-20-2008, 02:40 AM

The entire concept of a coup presupposes that there is some reason to take over a country in the first place.
New Zealand does not meet this criteria.

I am sure that there is some good use for New Zealand

T3ngu

06-20-2008, 02:41 AM

The entire concept of a coup presupposes that there is some reason to take over a country in the first place.
New Zealand does not meet this criteria.

A supporting notion may be "We wish to take control of the country, and return all kiwis from Australia to their place of birth".

Nothing there but sheep.

goat89

06-20-2008, 02:43 AM

Hahaha!!!! Lmao! ^

Flagg

06-20-2008, 05:33 AM

I am sure that there is some good use for New Zealand

yes.......and that is to provide Australia with a workforce.........that actually works.

Somebody has to actually get things accomplished while Aussies are busy patting themselves on the back.

get back on topic

Aussie Sapper

06-20-2008, 05:38 AM

yes.......and that is to provide Australia with a workforce.........that actually works.

Somebody has to actually get things accomplished while Aussies are busy patting themselves on the back.

get back on topic

YES SIR!!,, on topic right away sir. p-)

Flagg

06-20-2008, 05:43 AM

YES SIR!!,, on topic right away sir. p-)

Haha.....I've always wanted to say this...I'm not a sir...I work for a living...no tea and scones for this jnco

Aussie Sapper

06-20-2008, 07:47 AM

Haha.....I've always wanted to say this...I'm not a sir...I work for a living...no tea and scones for this jnco

No "cocky sh*t" on your shoulders then :)

ggk

06-21-2008, 07:28 AM

key targets:

Than Shwe

Maung Aye

Shwe Mann

Thein Sein

baisically:

the question - where are they located? Centralised location would be ideal for the strike (air strike, commando strike).

wedding..during Than Shwe wedding (or is it his daughter wedding) everyone was there.

Hadamar

06-21-2008, 03:19 PM

Channel 4 coverage of the Simon Mann trial, June 20, 2008
http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/x5v1rw&related=1

Whitcomb

06-21-2008, 04:55 PM

Simon Mann is?

ggk

06-21-2008, 05:02 PM

i read about him on Soldier Of Fortune magz

Hadamar

07-08-2008, 02:24 PM

http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/x629v5
Channel 4 News (July 7, 2008) coverage of the sentencing of Simon Mann. He got thirty-four years in prison.

Hellfish

07-08-2008, 02:56 PM

Sounds like he got off relatively easy.

Ironsight06

07-08-2008, 03:56 PM

Hope they get Thatcher one of these days...

Flagg

07-09-2008, 12:48 AM

Simon Mann is?

The advance party for the Coups-r-us division of Milphotos.net.......duh ;)

Aussie Sapper

09-14-2008, 07:13 AM

I have been off crook a few for a while, and we still ummminn and ahhhiinnn,, jeez guys,, pull you fingers out and lets go and kick some arse p-)