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Smersh
09-30-2006, 09:01 PM
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9648/10bigum0.jpg

Spets06
09-30-2006, 09:08 PM
I think it might be the Ukrainian VEPR Assault Rifle



http://world.guns.ru/assault/vepr2.jpg

Source: http://world.guns.ru/assault/as68-e.htm

Smersh
09-30-2006, 09:20 PM
If it is a Vepr its very heavily modified. Its not an AK variant I can recognize

CruddyLeper
09-30-2006, 09:24 PM
Looks same apart from rear sight removed, fore grip added, and suppressor on the front.

KillerBD
09-30-2006, 11:21 PM
Huh, I've never seen it before. It looks like there is an AK-74 plastic orange magazine in it. Maybe a bullpup version of an AK-74??? They do have bullpup AK-47's after all. Also what country are those soldiers from in the truck, Russia???

LaoSexMachine
09-30-2006, 11:25 PM
Armenian military.

Aerosoul
09-30-2006, 11:31 PM
Armenian military.
copyright: Ministry of Defence of the
Republic of Armenia. p-)

LaoSexMachine
09-30-2006, 11:33 PM
and the Army emblem on their sleeves.

Smersh
10-01-2006, 12:58 AM
like I said earlier. If its a Vepr, its very heavily modified. No doubt it somekind of AK variant.

I just talked to a freind this is what he told me. "considering the source is Armenian, i'd say it's an Armenian K3 assault rifle, a AK74 bullpup variant. developed by the Armenian Ministry of Defense Industrial Department (MID)"

kingrabbit
10-01-2006, 09:15 AM
its an airsoft...

A13x
10-01-2006, 09:39 AM
Believe it is the 5.45mm K-3 Bullpup

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/4048/p2685xt9.jpg (http://www.wapahani.com/ARMK-3.jpg)

Above is an old model of the rifle, as you can see, the pistol grip, trigger and buttstock remain much the same, with changes to the foregrip and body since

"Though the K-3 was first revealed in 1996, by 2006 only about 40 had been built, and the Armenian government had not yet authorized series production. (In fact, little has been heard about the K-3 since it was shown at an arms show in 1996; it has apparently been demonstrated to a few "unnamed parties," but its exact status, and whether it will ever be mass-produced, is unknown.) Though similar in appearance to the British L-85, the K-3 is based on the tried-and-true Kalashnikov action. The K-3 may is normally used with iron sights, but may be fitted with the PSO-1 4x sight of the SVD sniper rifle. The K-3 can only be used right handed, as left-handed use gets in the way of case ejection and can jam the weapon. The muzzle brake is different than that of the AK-74; it allows the use of rifle grenades without having to have a special version for rifle grenade launching. In addition, the K-3 uses a great deal of polymers in its construction, including most of the stock, the trigger guard, and pistol grip; in addition, the Armenians have modified the standard AK-74 magazines so that the shell is entirely polymer, instead of the steel magazines within a polymer shell of the AK-74. (The K-3 can also use standard AK-74 magazines, however.)"

Specifications

Cartridge: 5.45 × 39 mm
Operation: gas, selective fire
Locking: rotating bolt
Feed: 30-round box magazine
Weight: loaded, 4 kg
Length: 700 mm
Barrel: 415 mm
Rifling: 4 grooves, rh, 1 turn in 196 mm
Sights: fore, raised hooded blade; rear, tangent aperture; also PSO-1 optical sight
Muzzle velocity: 900 m/s
Rate of fire: cyclic, 600 rds/min
Max effective range: 500 m



See also:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=46455

Smersh
10-01-2006, 03:06 PM
there is also apparantly a sniper variant the K-11. The K-3 and K-11 are apparantly primarly used by "special operations" troops.