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Drunkensquid
10-02-2006, 05:31 AM
http://www.metacafe.com/fplayer/178650/rare_video_of_hitler.swf
what is the year of video?
trodas
10-02-2006, 05:38 AM
That's hilarious woot
I never know that Roosvelt was such a braindead - requesting assurance that Hitler did not attack and above all do not conquer many nations that he was already beed conquering woot
...and my country, that was occupied from 1938, almost year before Poland, was never even mentioned :bash:
Drunkensquid
10-02-2006, 05:42 AM
what is the year of video?
My guess is the mid to late 30's, before the molotov ribbentrop pact
THETOOLMAN
10-02-2006, 01:07 PM
that is funny , I wish I knew how to save it for later!
Dan
e_rik
10-02-2006, 01:16 PM
heheh... yes.. thats funny!rofl
unit299_09
10-02-2006, 01:37 PM
hilarious...
i have another one....
http://www.youtube.com/v/oPr7L8hcHpY
Bryson C
10-02-2006, 01:40 PM
^. Not that one again.
unit299_09
10-02-2006, 01:43 PM
^. Not that one again.
i am sorry but this is importand to understand german historyrofl
Gauntlet
10-02-2006, 02:05 PM
I was half-expecting that the video would show Hitler saying
"But he forgot Poland"
Kitsune
10-02-2006, 04:17 PM
This was a stupid move by Roosevelt. Hitler promptly had all the countries on this list officially asked wether they felt threatened by Germany. Each and everyone declined that. Ireland even felt more threatened by the English than by Germany. All in all it gave Hitler a great opportunity to ridicule Roosevelt. Which in turn may not have been forgotten by the American President but at the time this blatant move made him look like an idiot.
Drunkensquid
10-02-2006, 05:48 PM
roosevelt acted what you would expect from a typical pussy ass democrat. Let's be nice and reason with the enemy and they will listen because we asked them nicely. He was a phucking idiot, the worst president the US could have during WW2.
Kitsune
10-02-2006, 06:08 PM
While I would agree that Roosevelt was the worst President to ever set foot into the Oval Office (even worse than Woodrow Wilson), he never tried to be nice to Hitler. Never. On the contrary he tried to confront him whenever and wherever possible. (This thing above was one of his attempts to dot that, albeit a very unskilled one.) That alone might speak for him...if he would not have written letters starting with "Dear Josef" at the same time. And he didn't stop until Stalin ruled most of Europe. Even than, Roosevelt was intend to withdraw the American troops so that Mr. Dzhugaschvili would have gotten what was left of it as well. Thank God, FDR died before it could come to that.
Drunkensquid
10-02-2006, 06:44 PM
Thank God, FDR died before it could come to that.
You know, I wrote something similar in my last post,
"Its unfortunate that Roosevelt didn't die earlier making room for someone competent to take charge."
but I decided to edit it because it didn't sound too "correct".
aclark79
10-02-2006, 07:06 PM
Considering that the vast vast majority of America was for isolationism, your pretty lucky FDR was in charge, otherwise you'd either be German or Russian. FDR may have had diffrent views on how to deal with Russia at the end, most assuredly due to his imminent death, but do you really think the UK could have done it alone (not knocking the great job the UK did).
Drunkingsquid, thats the biggest load of bollocks. Again, the repuiblicans would have kept us out of the war, resulting in predictable results... no lend lease, no american support, no focus on Europe.
I don't think anyone who is willing to risk something like D-Day can be called a pussy
Kitsune
10-02-2006, 07:44 PM
Considering that the vast vast majority of America was for isolationism, your pretty lucky FDR was in charge, otherwise you'd either be German or Russian. FDR may have had diffrent views on how to deal with Russia at the end, most assuredly due to his imminent death, but do you really think the UK could have done it alone (not knocking the great job the UK did).
To whom are you talking here?
If it should be me, then, FYI:
1) I am German.
2) If FDR had had his way I would have ended up Russian. That's exactly the problem I have with him.
3) While I may have called him a lot of things, including possibly something like "thrice cursed, rotten bastard" - I never called him a pussy. Not that I think of him as esepcially brave either, considering that he never got closer to the frontlines than San Diego.
Lokos
10-02-2006, 11:29 PM
Retiscent Germans and angry Hungarians hating on Roosevelt? Inconceivable!
Why is it that American surveys of American presidents (one thousand scholars quantitative method, Gallup poll, ABC poll) consistently rank Roosevelt as part of the 'Big Three' with Lincoln and George Washington? The worst, according to these same surveys, include Franklin Pierce, James Buchanan, Andrew Johnson and Warren G. Harding.
Enjoy:
During the Great Depression of the 1930s, Roosevelt created the New Deal to provide relief for the unemployed, recovery of the economy, and reform of the economic system. His most famous legacies include the Social Security system and the regulation of Wall Street. His aggressive use of an active federal government reenergized the Democratic party. Roosevelt built the New Deal coalition that dominated politics into the 1960s. He and his wife Eleanor Roosevelt remain touchstones for American liberalism. The conservatives fought back, but Roosevelt consistently prevailed until he tried to pack the Supreme Court in 1937, and the new Conservative coalition successfully ended New Deal expansion, and ended many programs like the WPA when the war started.
After 1938, Roosevelt championed re-armament and led the nation away from isolationism as the world headed into World War II. He provided extensive support to Winston Churchill and the British war effort before the attack on Pearl Harbor pulled the U.S. into the fighting. During the war, Roosevelt, working closely with his aide Harry Hopkins, provided decisive leadership against Nazi Germany and made the United States the principal arms supplier and financier of the Allies who defeated Germany, Italy and Japan. Roosevelt led the United States as it became the Arsenal of Democracy, putting 16 million American men into uniform.
On the homefront his term saw the end of unemployment, restoration of prosperity, significant new taxes and controls, 120,000 Japanese and Japanese Americans sent to relocation camps, and new opportunities opened for African Americans and women. As the Allies neared victory, Roosevelt played a critical role in shaping the post-war world, particularly through the Yalta Conference and the creation of the United Nations. Roosevelt died on the eve of victory in World War II and was succeeded by Vice President Harry S. Truman.
Worst ever POTUS? Hah!
Lokos
Versace
10-03-2006, 12:20 AM
That video is actually not THAT rare. Perhaps on the internet, but I saw this footage on telly several times already.
Kitsune
10-03-2006, 01:00 AM
Yeah Lokos, I know. Many Americans still think he would have been one of the greatest presidents of all time...
But:
Roosevelts New Deal didn't work too well. And his fight against unemployment used a similiar principle as the one of Hitler. Armament. Only less successful.
As far as his great achievement to lead America out of bad isolationism is concerned...isolationism ain't that bad. Had the America continued to heed the Monroe doctrine during WWI, the world might actually be a better place. Not that Roosevelt was president back then but he was part of the American government. And a hawk who wanted to join the war against Germany at that. After the war he was totally for the Versailles treaty and he also was of the opinion that Germany should never be led out of it.
As far as his role in WWII is concerned I do not appreciate it overly since it is my belief that Stalin was easily as much a monster as Hitler. So by supporting Josef systematically in the fight against Adolf, Good and Evil largely cancelled out. Also, it was Roosevelt who, at the conference of Casablanca, instated the policy that the war would be fought until Germany (not Hitler, not the Nazis) would be utterly crushed. Only unconditional surrender to all sides (including the Soviets) would do. Thanks Franklin.
Roosevelt also was the reason that attempts to overthrow or kill the German dictator where never given any real suppport by the Allies. And when he learned about the assassination attempt of Stauffenberg in July 1944, he declared promptly that it would not change a thing should Hitler be dead. In fact he seemed to be annoyed by the thought of a successful coup d'etat against the so called Führer.
Roosevelts government was also the one that developed the infamous "Morgenthau Plan" according to which Germany should be turned into some backward agricultural state with a low living standard and its population committed to forced labour. While he distanced himself from the plan because of a very negative public reaction (something that speaks very much for the American people) its not Roosevelt to thank for that it did not come to this.
The last big whopper of FDR I can think of was when he announced on the conference of Yalta that, once Germany had been crushed utterly, American troops would be withdrawn from Europe within 18 months. (And that after he had so successfully freed America from isolationism, my my). Churchill was so shocked that he almost swallowed his cigar while Stalin most probably needed all his will to keep himself from drooling.
If Harry S. Truman hadn't changed course after Roosevelts death, God knows what would have happened.
So, I am sorry if I think that he is the most overrated US-President of all time. Or to be more precise: I simply cannot stand this despicable fellow. But I simply don't see any reason why I should do so, especially as a German. If that makes me a retiscent guy, so be it.
Whatever "retiscent" may mean...
Lokos
10-03-2006, 09:49 AM
Apologies, Kitsune, I of course meant 'reticent'.
A joke, if you will.
Your only real objection to Roosevelt (apparently earning him the label of 'worst ever POTUS') is that he was pro-Soviet and anti-German/Hitler. You devote one sentence of that post to the New Deal, and dismiss it as 'unsuccessful' despite the facts (in a relative sense) and Roosevelt's role in the recovery of the American economy after the Great Depression - there was a reason he stayed in power for as long as he did. Since the question isn't 'most anti-German POTUS ever', that's pretty irrelevant to any given American.
Lokos
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