Today's Pic's - Thursday, April 8

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Marine Corps Air Station Cherry Point, N.C. - "Fat Albert", a U.S. Marine Corps C-130 Hercules assigned to the Navy's Flight Demonstration Team, "Blue Angels", lifts into the sky as the Jet Assisted Take Off (JATO) bottles ignite to give an extra 8,000 pounds of thrust upon take-off. The eight JATO rockets help "Fat Albert" shorten the distance needed for taking off. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate 2nd Class Saul McSween. (RELEASED)

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San Francisco, Calif. - The U.S. Navy's Flight Demonstration Team, "Blue Angels", C-130 Hercules transport aircraft, "Fat Albert", performs in front of San Francisco's Alcatraz Island. "Fat Albert" is used in the "Blue Angel's" show demonstrating the aircraft's short take off capability using Jet Assisted Take Off (JATO) bottles. The eight JATO rockets give "Fat Albert" an extra 8,000 pounds of thrust. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate 2nd Class Saul McSween. (RELEASED)

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A group of radical students chant slogans as they stage an anti-war and anti-U.S. protest near the U.S. Embassy in Tokyo Thursday, April 8, 2004. They denounced the air strike by the U.S. military against a mosque in Fallujah, Iraq, that killed dozens of people. (AP Photo/Chiaki Tsukumo)

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Members of the Iraqi special forces, a unit formed by Kurdish peshmergas, walk throught the outskirts of Fallujah, Iraq, Wednesday, April 7, 2004, for a joint patrol with U.S. Marines of the 2nd Battalion 1st Marine Regiment. (AP Photo/Murad Sezer)

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Lt. Gen. James T. Conway, Commanding General of I Marine Expeditionary Force, left, gets information from U.S. Marines with the 2nd Battalion 1st Marine Regiment in the outskirts of Fallujah, Iraq, Wednesday, April 7, 2004. Hundreds of U.S. Marines attacked several neighborhoods in the western Iraqi city of Fallujah in order to regain control of the city. (AP Photo/Murad Sezer)

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Lt. Gen. James T. Conway, Commanding General of Ist Marine Expeditionary Force, right, talks with U.S. Marine Cpl. Fabian Carbajal of San Diego, Ca., with the 2nd Battalion 1st Marine Regiment in the outskirts of Fallujah, Iraq, Wednesday, April 7, 2004. Hundreds of U.S. Marines attacked several neighborhoods in the western Iraqi city of Fallujah in order to regain control of the city. (AP Photo/Murad Sezer)

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Lt. Gen. James T. Conway, Commanding General of Ist Marine Expeditionary Force, second left, talks with U.S. Marine Lcpl Shane F. Strachan of Bloomfield, Iowa, with the 2nd Battalion 1st Marine Regiment, left, in the outskirts of Fallujah, Iraq, Wednesday, April 7, 2004. Hundreds of U.S. Marines attacked several neighborhoods in the western Iraqi city of Fallujah in order to regain control of the city. (AP Photo/Murad Sezer)

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U.S. Marines with the 2nd Battalion 1st Marine Regiment stand guard at a railway in the outskirts of Fallujah, Iraq, Wednesday, April 7, 2004. Hundreds of U.S. Marines attacked several neighborhoods in the western Iraqi city of Fallujah in order to regain control of the city. (AP Photo/Murad Sezer)

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RAMADI Navy medical corpsmen carried a wounded marine to an evacuation helicopter yesterday at their outpost in the Sunni-dominated town.

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U.S. marines detained a hooded Iraqi who was put in a pit normally used by car mechanics. Heavy fighting continued in the area.

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A member of a guerrilla group in Baghdad's Sadr City kept watch.


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Sunni insurgents guarded the streets of Falluja Wednesday.

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Iraqi men dug through the ruins of a house in Falluja. The town has been the site of pitched battles between insurgents and American marines. American forces called in air support during the fighting, including a a missile from a Super Cobra helicopter and a laser-guided bomb from an F-16 fighter jet.

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US troops retrieve a U.S. OH-58D Kiowa helicopter that made an emergency landing in the city of Baqouba, Iraq, Wednesday April 7 2004. (AP PHOTO/str)

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Seen through a night-vision device, Sgt. Nicolas Thornbro keeps his weapon ready during a night patrol in Tikrit, Iraq. Thornbro is assigned to the 1st Infantry Division’s Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 1st Battalion, 18th Infantry Regiment. Photo by Pfc. Elizabeth Erste.

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RAID IN TIKRIT — Seen through a night-vision device, U.S. Army Sgt. Wilbert Snyder maintains security with his .50-caliber machine gun during a raid in Tikrit, Iraq, April 6, 2004. Snyder is assigned to the 1st Infantry Division’s Scout Platoon, Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 1st Battalion, 18th Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team. U.S. Army photo by Pfc. Elizabeth Ersten

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QUITO, ECUADOR: Policemen positioned on the roofs of N.2 prison take cover from the stones thrown by the mutinied inmates, 07 April, 2004 in Quito, Ecuador. Inmates at several Ecuadoran jails held hundreds of hostages for a second straight day Wednesday in a revolt over living conditions. Some 200 armed police officers with shields were seen at the Garcia Moreno prison in Quito and the Inca jail for women north of the capital. AFP PHOTO MARTIN BERNETTI (Photo credit should read MARTIN BERNETTI/AFP/***** Images)

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NATO's Secretary-General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer is greeted at the airport shortly after his arrival in Moscow, Wednesday, April 7, 2004. Jaap de Hoop Scheffer arrived Wednesday evening on his first official trip to Russia. (AP Photo)

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MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE, Fla. -- In a formation known as the "Heritage Fly-by," three generations of military air power were on display at AirFest 2004 here April 3. This is the base's first air show since 2001. It drew in an estimated crowd of 500,000 people. (U.S. Air Force photo by Staff Sgt. Randy Redman)

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OVER THE SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA -- A KC-135E Stratotanker, flown by Maj. Paul Sheehan, aircraft commander, Capt. John Wahleithner, co-pilot, and Maj. Rob Mazzie, navigator during a Operation Noble Eagle training patrol March 16. The three airmen are from the 940th Aerial Refueling Wing at Beale Air Force Base, Calif. (U.S. Air Force photo by Master Sgt. Lance Cheung)

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OVER THE SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA -- Major Rob Swertfager gets his F-16 Fighting Falcon refuled by a KC-135E Stratotanker during a Operation Noble Eagle training patrol March 16. Major Swertgager is a pilot with the California Air National Guard's 144th Fighter Wing inb Fresno, Calif. The KC-135E is assigned to the 940th Aerial Refueling Wing at Beale Air Force Base, Calif. (U.S. Air Force photo by Master Sgt. Lance Cheung)

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Soldiers aboard a CH-47 Chinook helicopter land to refuel on a firebase at Orgun-E, Afghanistan. Army aviation assets are playing a critical role in helping U.S. Soldiers and Coalition forces destroy remnants of the Taliban regime and the Al Qaeda terrorist network during Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan. Photo by Sgt. Christopher Kaufmann.

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Spc. James Wosika searches the occupant of a car stopped at a vehicle checkpoint in Kosovo, while Spc. Joseph Scavo ensures security. Both Soldiers are infantrymen assigned to the 34th Infantry Division’s Company A, 2nd Battalion, 136th Infantry Regiment. The unit is deployed in support of peacekeeping operations conducted by NATO's Kosovo Force Multi-National Brigade (East). Photo by Sgt. Jon Soucy.

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The University of Alaska, Fairbanks Geophysical Institute's Arctic Tortoise, shown in this UAF file photo, will be the UAF Geophysical Institute's entry in the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency "Grand Challenge." The idea behind the competition, which now carries a $2 million grand prize, is to build a robust, autonomous robotic vehicle for the U.S military that can drive itself over a 142-mile obstacle course in less than 10 hours. The Arctic Tortoise is a radically converted 1992 Jeep Cherokee with a 4.0-liter, 171-horsepower engine and a hefty load of sophisticated electronics on board and can reach speeds up to 50 mph. (AP Photo University of Alaska, Fairbanks Geophysical Institute) .

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Minister of Defence Senator Robert Hill presents Private Andrew Holland with his Australian Service Medal at the Operation Anode Medal Presentation held on the Townsville 2RAR parade ground.
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An armed Greek special forces coast guard officer stands guard at the port of Piraeus on Tuesday, April 6, 2004. The port will host at least eight cruise ships with some 13,000 visitors and officials during the Aug. 13-29 Olympics. On Wednesday, April 7, 2004, Greek Premier Costas Caramanlis vowed Wednesday April 7, 2004 that "Greece will guarantee safe games." (AP Photo /Petros Giannakouris, File)

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How was that shot down. Probably just with AK:s :|

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How was that shot down. Probably just with AK:s :|
Hm, yea. Becouse it looks like it made to land.

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The OH-56 isn't an attack helicopter and it's not armored; cleary, a well paced bullet can disable the engine; anyway, the damage is quite limited and helicopter can easy repaired.

It's safer if the US ARMY could change is scout helicopter in the future; cancelled the Comanche, even a AH-1 Cobra with advanced sensors can be better than OH-56.

Just my 2 $.

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Iraqi insurgents walk past a blazing vehicle that was carrying supplies to U.S. forces after it was destroyed in the Baghdad suburb of Abu Ghraib, April 8, 2004. Polish and Bulgarian troops battled Shi'ite militiamen in the Iraqi shrine city of Kerbala on Thursday as U.S.-led forces struggled to quell the worst violence since Saddam Hussein's fall a year ago.

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A masked Iraqi youth holds a rocket propelled grenade launcher on a back street in the Baghdad suburb of Abu Ghraib April 8, 2004. Intense fighting has swept several areas of Iraq this week as U.S. Marines launched a major operation to root out insurgents in the Sunni cities of Ramadi and Falluja, and radical Shi'ite militiamen clashed with foreign troops across Shi'ite areas of the country.

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Zarima Muzhikhoyeva, failed Chechen suicide bomber, looks through the bars during the court sitting in Moscow, April 8, 2004. Muzhikhoyeva was found guilty of terrorism and sentenced to 20 years in jail.

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A British Army Land Rover lies burned while surrounded by children near the southern Iraq city of Amara April 6, 2004. The British military said 15 people were killed in the past 48 hours after clashes erupted.

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Very strange looking, looks like you can see her black soul straight through her eyes.

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I've seen helicopters land worse than this because somebody got "righty tighty" confused with "lefty loosey". Yeah, maybe an AK, and maybe it was the will of 'Ralph the Head of Cabbage.' I'll wait until the NTSB report.

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Good Pics woot

[Gringo]

Very strange looking, looks like you can see her black soul straight through her eyes.


they say that "the eyes are the gateway to the soul"

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yea yea shut up

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FALLUJAH, IRAQ: A US Marine from the1st Marine Expeditionary Force talks on his radio 08 April 2004 in the flashpoint town of Fallujah, 50 km west of Baghdad. The death toll from clashes between US forces and insurgents in Fallujah has reached 105 and more than 200 people have been wounded. AFP PHOTO/Cris BOURONCLE (Photo credit should read CRIS BOURONCLE/AFP/***** Images)

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FALLUJAH, IRAQ: A US Marine from the1st Marine Expeditionary Force takes position 08 April 2004 in the flashpoint town of Fallujah, 50 km west of Baghdad. The death toll from clashes between US forces and insurgents in Fallujah has reached 105 and more than 200 people have been wounded. AFP PHOTO/Cris BOURONCLE (Photo credit should read CRIS BOURONCLE/AFP/***** Images)

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ABU GHARIB, IRAQ: Iraqi Sunni Muslim insurgents celebrate in front of a burning US convoy they have attacked earlier 08 April 2004 in Abu Gharib, on the outskirts of the flashpoint town of Fallujah. AFP PHOTO/Karim SAHIB (Photo credit should read KARIM SAHIB/AFP/***** Images)

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A Sunni insurgent holding a rocket propelled grenade launcher flashes the victory sign at the site of an attack on a U.S. convoy near Abu Ghraib, a western suburb of Baghdad Thursday April 8 2004. (AP Photo/Samir Mizban)

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Sunni insurgents load a car with rocket propelled grenade launchers at the site of an attack on a U.S. convoy near Abu Ghraib, Iraq, a western suburb of Baghdad Thursday April 8 2004. (AP PHOTO/Samir Mizban)

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Sunni and Shiite Iraqis join forces as they load food supplies on trucks before heading to Fallujah, Iraq, from the Um Al Qura mosque in west Baghdad Thursday April 8 2004. Truckloads of food supplies and medicine donated by Iraqis are being taken to Fallujah, where more than 280 Iraqis have been killed and 400 wounded this week in the U.S. Marines' siege of insurgents in this city west of Baghdad, the director of Fallujah's hospital said Thursday. (AP PHOTO/Samir Mizban)

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Sunni and Shiite Iraqis join forces as they travel to Fallujah, Iraq, from the Um Al Qura mosque in west Baghdad Thursday April 8 2004. Truckloads of food supplies and medicine donated by Iraqis are taken to Fallujah, where more than 280 Iraqis have been killed and 400 wounded this week in the U.S. Marines' siege of insurgents in this city west of Baghdad, the director of Fallujah's hospital said Thursday. (AP PHOTO/Samir Mizban)

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Sunni and Shiite Iraqis join forces as they travel to Fallujah, Iraq, from the Um Al Qura mosque in west Baghdad, Thursday, April 8, 2004. Truckloads of food supplies and medicine donated by Iraqis are being taken to Fallujah, where more than 280 Iraqis have been killed and 400 wounded this week in the U.S. Marines' siege of insurgents in this city west of Baghdad, the director of Fallujah's hospital said Thursday. (AP Photo/Samir Mizban)


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South Korea army troops come and go through obstacles set up during a training at Special Army Force Training Center in Gwangju, south of Seoul, South Korea, Thursday, April 8, 2004. Acting President Goh Kun on Wednesday, reconfirmed Seoul's decision to send 3,600 troops to the Kurdish region of Northern Iraq later this year. (AP Photo/Ahn Young-joon)

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Afghan National Army soldiers prepare to move out to Faryab province where for the second time in less than a month fractional fighting has broken out between commanders loyal to the central government and warlords trying to protect their autonomy Thursday April 8, 2004 in Kabul, Afghanistan. Forces of a northern strongman overran the capital of a remote Afghan province Thursday, the interior minister said, in a burst of factional violence undermining the authority of U.S.-backed President Hamid Karzai. (AP Photo/Ed Wray)

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CAMBERLEY, ENGLAND - APRIL 8: Her Majesty The Queen's Representative His Highness Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al-Thani, The Emir of Qatar inspects soldiers during the 144th Sovereign's Parade held at The Royal Military Academy Sandhurst on April 8, 2004 in Camberley, England. Some 470 Officer cadets took part of which 219 were commissioned into the British Army. (Photo by Julian Herbert/***** Images)

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WARNING! STRONG IMAGES TO FOLLOW ....

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A wounded U.S. soldier disconnects his communication wire before extracting himself an armoured vehicle after his convoy came under attack in Fallujah, Iraq, in this image made from video Thursday, April 8, 2004. Two marines were wounded in the attack when their vehicle was attacked by a rocket-propelled grenade. (AP Photo/US Pool via APTN)

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A U.S. soldier exits an armoured vehicle, rear, as another collapses on its roof after their convoy came under attack in Fallujah, Iraq, in this image made from video Thursday, April 8, 2004. Two marines were wounded in the attack when their vehicle was attacked by a rocket-propelled grenade. The soldier at front was later removed from the scene on a stretcher. (AP Photo/US Pool via APTN)

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A U.S. soldier aids a fellow marine on top of an armoured vehicle after their convoy came under attack in Fallujah, Iraq, in this image made from video Thursday, April 8, 2004. Two marines were wounded in the attack when their vehicle was attacked by a rocket-propelled grenade. (AP Photo/US Pool via APTN)

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U.S. soldiers carry a colleague from the scene of an attack on their convoy in Fallujah, Iraq, in this image made from video Thursday, April 8, 2004. Two marines were wounded in the attack when their vehicle was attacked by a rocket-propelled grenade. (AP Photo/US Pool via APTN)

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Blindfolded Japanese civilian detainees kneel in front of their captors at an undisclosed location in this image made from video released Thursday, April 8, 2004. Eight South Koreans and three Japanese were kidnapped Thursday by insurgents in Iraq, and captors armed with automatic rifles and swords threatened to burn the Japanese alive if Tokyo did not withdraw from the U.S.-led coalition. Associated Press Television News obtained a copy of a full tape, which shows four armed, masked men pointing knives and swords at the captives' chests and throats. (AP Photo/APTN)

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Nahoko Takato, left, and an unidentified Japanese civilian detainee are seen at an undisclosed location in this image made from video released Thursday, April 8, 2004. Eight South Koreans and three Japanese were kidnapped Thursday by insurgents in Iraq, and captors armed with automatic rifles and swords threatened to burn the Japanese alive if Tokyo did not withdraw from the U.S.-led coalition. Associated Press Television News obtained a copy of a full tape, which shows four armed, masked men pointing knives and swords at the captives' chests and throats.(AP Photo/APTN)

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Savages!

Japanese civilian detainees are seen at an undisclosed location in this image made from video released Thursday, April 8, 2004. The captives were identified as Noriaki Imai, Soichiro Koriyana and Nahoko Takato. Eight South Koreans and three Japanese were kidnapped Thursday by insurgents in Iraq, and captors armed with automatic rifles and swords threatened to burn the Japanese alive if Tokyo did not withdraw from the U.S.-led coalition. Associated Press Television News obtained a copy of a full tape, which shows four armed, masked men pointing knives and swords at the captives' chests and throats. (AP Photo/APTN

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The passport of Japanese civilian detainees seen at an undisclosed location in this image made from video released Thursday, April 8, 2004. Two Japanese men and a woman were kidnapped in Iraq by a group identifiying itself as the "Mujahedeen Brigades," which gave Japan the ultimatum of removing their forces from Iraq or they would burn the hostages alive. (AP Photo/APTN)

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http://a.relaunch.focus.de/img/gen/J/G/HBJGAwIaa5m_Pxgen_rc_Ax333,400x333.jpg

[pAt]

why are they leavin an armoured vehicle? what kind of vehicle was it anyways?

[Seoulstriker]

why are they leavin an armoured vehicle? what kind of vehicle was it anyways?

was it a stryker? (there was a top-hatch)

[Rantanplan]

http://a.relaunch.focus.de/img/gen/W/E/HBWEAE7aWSy_Pxgen_rc_Ax333,400x333.jpg

Is this guy with the vest a Iraqi?

[Macs.]

http://a.relaunch.focus.de/img/gen/W/E/HBWEAE7aWSy_Pxgen_rc_Ax333,400x333.jpg

Is this guy with the vest a Iraqi?

I don't think so.

Looks like someone from the media, but I am not sure.

[cut]

well it's not exactly an american uniform he's wearing is it?

[He219]

He was a translator.

[Kingpin]

why are they leavin an armoured vehicle? what kind of vehicle was it anyways?

Looks like Abrams. Yep!

[He219]

You seem happy if it were, Kingpin ...
:|

http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7230/7230297.jpg


U.S. Marines pray over a fallen comrade at a first aid point after he died from wounds suffered in fighting in Fallujah, Iraq, Thursday, April 8, 2004. Hundreds of U.S. Marines have been fighting insurgents in several neighborhoods in the western Iraqi city of Fallujah in order to regain control of the city. (AP Photo/Murad Sezer)

RIP
:(

http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7230/7230293.jpg

Chief Cabinet Secretary Yasuo Fukuda speaks about a report that three Japanese civilians are detained in Iraq, at the prime minister's official residence in Tokyo Thursday, April 8, 2004. Japan has no plans to withdraw its forces from Iraq despite the kidnapping by insurgents of the three. The government was still trying to confirm media reports that the three will be killed unless Japan pulls out its forces in Iraq on a humanitarian mission. (AP Photo/Itsuo Inouye)

[mustamato]

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=581533

I´d do her.


Chief Cabinet Secretary Yasuo Fukuda speaks about a report that three Japanese civilians are detained in Iraq, at the prime minister's official residence in Tokyo Thursday, April 8, 2004. Japan has no plans to withdraw its forces from Iraq despite the kidnapping by insurgents of the three. The government was still trying to confirm media reports that the three will be killed unless Japan pulls out its forces in Iraq on a humanitarian mission. (AP Photo/Itsuo Inouye)

And by the way Japan will probably leave Iraq, hope those prisoners will
be released. If killed I hope that they will atleast shoot them in the head
and not "burn them alive" or cut their throats. I´ll pray for them.

[He219]

Shut up, mustamato. That was one of the lamest things you have ever written.

:bash:

[Kingpin]

I'm not sure about my feelings concerning Abrams (if it is really him).
But i can assure you i'm NOT happy about poor tankers. :bash:

[He219]

Looks like Abrams. Yep!
Good, Kingpin. I appeared as if you were gloating.

[mustamato]

Shut up, mustamato. That was one of the lamest things you have ever written.

:bash:

That I hope that they will not kill the prisoners?

[He219]

Much better, mustamato.

The 'I'd do her' and 'shoot them in the head' was the lame part.

[mustamato]

Much better, mustamato.

And didn´t I write that in my first post then? I even squeezed in a "peace
and love rather than violence"-subliminal message in the post.

And I would personally rater die by a bullet in the head than a knife slowly
cutting my throat, if I would be killed anyway. I didn´t exactly wish for them to die.

[He219]

Your re-phrasing was a far more appropriate comment, mustamato. Spare us you gory interpretations ...

[Catch22]

Heh i thought it was rather the swastika that attracted your attention to this photo, Black Worm :lol:

[mustamato]

Heh i thought it was rather the swastika that attracted your attention to this photo, Black Worm :lol:

Yeah, seems that Bush is a nazi as well. Who would have thought.

[Operation Ivy]

http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7230/7230271.jpg

Yup thats an Abrams :| My question is were these guys moving around the city with there heads sticking out of the turret?

[He219]

Heh i thought it was rather the swastika that attracted your attention to this photo, Black Worm :lol:

Yeah, seems that Bush is a nazi as well. Who would have thought.
I thought you were intrigued by the Swastika because the Finns use it as a national emblem, mustamato?

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040408/i/r1268633329.jpg

An Iraqi militant fires a rocket propelled grenade launcher during fighting with U.S. troops in Falluja, April 8 2004. Between 280 and 300 Iraqis have been killed and at least 400 hurt in fighting in Falluja this week as U.S. Marines launched a major mission to root out guerrillas, the director of its main hospital, Rafi Hayat, said on Thursday. *******/LBC via ******* TV

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040408/capt.lon80404081035.iraq_fallujah_lon804.jpg

An Iraqi militant with a rocket launcher, left, and machine gun, right, fire at U.S. forces in the Iraqi city of Fallujah in this image made from television Thursday, April 8, 2004. The U.S. assault on Fallujah began early on Monday, April 5 when Marines surrounded the city of some 200,000 people. (AP Photo/LBC via APTN)

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040408/i/r1456146305.jpg

The jet stream from a U.S. bomber hangs in the sky above the Baghdad suburb of Abu Ghraib April 8, 2004. *******/Ceerwan Aziz

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040408/i/r953186396.jpg

Arab television Al Jazeera aired a video on April 8, 2004 showing three Japanese, including one woman, it said were taken hostage by an Iraqi group vowing to kill them if Japan does not leave Iraq (news - web sites). The television said a statement by the hitherto unknown Iraqi group called Saraya al-Mujahideen had given Japan three days from the airing of the video to withdraw its troops from Iraq before it killed the hostages. Passports shown on the video gave the woman's name as Takato Nahoko (C) and the two men as Noriaki Imai (L) and Soichiro Koriyama. At least one of them had a press identification card. GERMANY OUT NO ARCHIVE NO RESALES *******/Al Jazeera via ******* Television

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040408/capt.bag11604081438.iraq_bag116.jpg

U.S. soldiers keep watch on Sunni and Shiite Iraqis taking part in a convoy of food and medical supplies to be delivered to Fallujah, Iraq (news - web sites), at the entrance of the town Thursday April 8, 2004. (AP Photo/Muhammed Muheisen)

[ibstolidude]

I'm not sure about my feelings concerning Abrams (if it is really him).
But i can assure you i'm NOT happy about poor tankers. :bash:
It is likely that they were driving in the open and the vehicle was struck by RPG/explosive.

It may not ruin/penetrate the vehicle but the overpressure, shock, chrapnel and exterior fire can be sever.

Often in Urban areas you will see people drive open - I am not a tanker but the Cav guys say they prefer the visibility. Perahps a tanker can speak more.

[Operation Ivy]

I'm not sure about my feelings concerning Abrams (if it is really him).
But i can assure you i'm NOT happy about poor tankers. :bash:
It is likely that they were driving in the open and the vehicle was struck by RPG/explosive.

It may not ruin/penetrate the vehicle but the overpressure, shock, chrapnel and exterior fire can be sever.

Often in Urban areas you will see people drive open - I am not a tanker but the Cav guys say they prefer the visibility. Perahps a tanker can speak more.

Javehn would say that's a no no

[mustamato]

http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7230/7230271.jpg

Yup thats an Abrams :| My question is were these guys moving around the city with there heads sticking out of the turret?

http://*******.feedroom.com

Yeah, ******* have the video (World news - Raw footage).

[cut]

wow that's great footage..


My question is were these guys moving around the city with there heads sticking out of the turret?

they weren't that's them getting out, watch the footage.

[Operation Ivy]

Thxs for the video

Yea it looks like the Loader and Commander were riding around while sticking out of the tank then it was struck by an RPG i guess and injured both of them, and they also must have been sticking out because you can see the gunner and driver get out, so the tank is still fine. Hope those 2 get better :hug: :(

[Operation Ivy]

wow that's great footage..


My question is were these guys moving around the city with there heads sticking out of the turret?

they weren't that's them getting out, watch the footage.

But they were proably sticking out when they were hit,then they went back in and drove off to a safer place to get help

[American Patriot]

Boo these pictures suck! How about some dead al-Sadr militiamen :D

[scm77]

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=581533

SUPER HAPPY FUN SMILE WAR PROTEST TIME!

rofl

[cut]

wow that's great footage..


My question is were these guys moving around the city with there heads sticking out of the turret?

they weren't that's them getting out, watch the footage.

But they were proably sticking out when they were hit,then they went back in and drove off to a safer place to get help

one had an injured hand and the other seemed to injured lower down, but I trust your judgement

[American Patriot]

What is it with these jihadists and video cameras?

[Macs.]

http://*******.feedroom.com

Yeah, ******* have the video (World news - Raw footage).

Does anyone know how to rip the videos off the ******* page ?

[He219]

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040408/i/r3185828791.jpg

Iraqi youths pelt a British Army Warrior armored vehicle with stones in the southern city of Basra April 8, 2004. *******/Atef Hassan

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3257938.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=F966663F299127CDD226DAB30B00C4CF

BAGHDAD, IRAQ: Members of radical Shiite leader Moqtada Sadr's Army of Mehdi militia, watch US positions 08 April 2004 in Baghdad's Shiite neighborhood of Sadr City. Wanted Shiite Muslim cleric Moqtada Sadr's youthful Mehdi Army, whom Americans want to destroy, is overwhelmed with new recruits adamant to pursue a new-born warfare against US-led occupation forces. AFP PHOTO/Patrick BAZ (Photo credit should read PATRICK BAZ/AFP/***** Images)

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040408/i/r1489676057.jpg

A masked Iraqi insurgent wields a rocket propelled grenade launcher in the embattled town of Falluja April 8, 2004. U.S.-led troops battled Sunni and Shi'ite rebels on Thursday and 11 foreigners were reported kidnapped as Iraq (news - web sites) descended into bloody chaos not seen since Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s fall a year ago. Heavy fighting raged in the Sunni town of Falluja, west of Baghdad, in the Shi'ite shrine city of Kerbala and in Abu Ghraib on the western outskirts of the capital, witnesses said. Up to 300 Iraqis have been killed and at least 400 hurt in the Sunni town in the four days since U.S. Marines began a crackdown on guerrillas, hospital director Rafi Hayad said. The Marines launched 'Operation Iron Resolve' after last week's killing and mutilation of four U.S. private security guards showed the depth of anti-American feeling in Falluja. *******/Akram Saleh

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20040408/capt.sge.fpk97.080404153552.photo04.default-255x384.jpg

Smoke billows from the Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) headquarters in Baghdad. Explosions were heard in the Iraqi capital as Muslim insurgents fought with the US-led coalition.(AFP/Nicolas Asfouri)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3257156.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=F966663F299127CDAF8715B737E3E418

BAGHDAD, IRAQ: TO GO WITH AFP STORY: IRAQ-US-SHIITES-MEHDI A member of radical Shiite leader Moqtada Sadr's Army of Mehdi militia, guards Baghdad's Shiite neighborhood of Sadr City 08 April 2004. Wanted Shiite Muslim cleric Moqtada Sadr's youthful Mehdi Army, whom Americans want to destroy, is overwhelmed with new recruits adamant to pursue a new-born warfare against US-led occupation forces. AFP PHOTO/Ahmad AL-RUBAYE (Photo credit should read AHMAD AL-RUBAYE/AFP/***** Images)

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=581727

Iraqis taking part in a convoy of food and medical supplies to be delivered to Fallujah, Iraq, negociate safe passage with U.S. troops at the entrance of the town Thursday April 8 2004. (AP Photo/Muhammed Muheisen)

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=581696

U.S. Marines control one of the main entrance of the city of Fallujah, Iraq, Thursday, April 8, 2004. Hundreds of Iraqis inspected by U.S. Marines entered the city of Fallujah taking with them tons of food and medical supply to the besieged city. U.S. Marines have been fighting insurgents in several neighborhoods in the western Iraqi city of Fallujah in order to regain control of the city. (AP Photo/Murad Sezer)

[Threelions]

Thanks for all the pictures everyone. Iraq seems to be getting messier by the hour!

Cheers

[Haiw]

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040408/i/r1489676057.jpg
Isn't that one of those special RPG-7 anti-personel grenades? OG-7 or something?

[Marmot1]

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040408/i/r1489676057.jpg

Can anyone ID this warhead??? Launcher seems to be RPG7 but warhed is strange..

[mustamato]

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040408/i/r1489676057.jpg

Can anyone ID this warhead??? Launcher seems to be RPG7 but warhed is strange..

Ordinary HE, (the one usually seen is a HEAT).

http://www.bazalt.ru/articles/pics/shells_e.jpg

[Mechanical Ambush]

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=581533

yea yea shut up


Yeh, I wanna see more Jap **** :cantbeli:

[Wilco]

http://a.relaunch.focus.de/img/gen/W/E/HBWEAE7aWSy_Pxgen_rc_Ax333,400x333.jpg
Journalist? His head looks caved in, but would the Kevlar Helmet cave in also?

[cut]

http://a.relaunch.focus.de/img/gen/W/E/HBWEAE7aWSy_Pxgen_rc_Ax333,400x333.jpg
Journalist? His head looks caved in, but would the Kevlar Helmet cave in also?

@paT: Possibly an M113?

apparently he's a translator, although, that's just what someone said I don't know if that is certain, and he's not wearing a kevlar helmet, that is a rock. But most people havn't realised that yet which is why it's still a picture and not a link.

[tacticalmanta]

Yeah, seems that Bush is a nazi as well. Who would have thought.

Bush is from the right wing. NAZIs are left wing socialist scum.

[Wilco]

Ah, from the angle that rock looks like a helmet, hrm.

[tacticalmanta]

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=581533

SUPER HAPPY FUN SMILE WAR PROTEST TIME!

rofl

We so happy. Protesting we do, like very much. Come be protest with us.

[American Patriot]

You know what they say.. if you're not a liberal at age 20, you have no heart. If you're still a liberal at age 40, you have no head. rofl

[HELEX]

tacticalmanta wrote:


Bush is from the right wing. NAZIs are left wing socialist scum.

Nooooooooooooooo! :cantbeli:

[cut]

Yeah, seems that Bush is a nazi as well. Who would have thought.

Bush is from the right wing. NAZIs are left wing socialist scum.

Nazis, were also nationalist (right-wing scum), they were pretty mixed up.
But it's nationalists (right wing incase you didn't get it the first time) who kill foreigners in this case the jews. When he came to power the country was in ruins, by the time the war started it was a world power, now that is socialist. He also had a great army, and I'll give that to the right wingers.

[FinnishMF]

tacticalmanta wrote:


Bush is from the right wing. NAZIs are left wing socialist scum.

Nooooooooooooooo! :cantbeli:
those assholes know ewerything :D :D :D :D :D :D

[cut]

You know what they say.. if you're not a liberal at age 20, you have no heart. If you're still a liberal at age 40, you have no head. rofl

therefore this man is not a liberal

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040408/i/r1489676057.jpg

[Rantanplan]

Some members here have a serious leck of education :roll:

[fokket]

Some members here have a serious leck of education :roll:

LLLLMMMMAAAAOOOOO

I hope you typed 'leck' by typing mistake :)

[Rantanplan]

Erhmm, yes of course.

[Operation Ivy]

wow that's great footage..


My question is were these guys moving around the city with there heads sticking out of the turret?

they weren't that's them getting out, watch the footage.

But they were proably sticking out when they were hit,then they went back in and drove off to a safer place to get help

one had an injured hand and the other seemed to injured lower down, but I trust your judgement

hmmm i didnt see anyone with a lower injury, isaw the guy with the hand, then there was the guy they took out on the strechter and they were working on his chest area hmm

[cut]

Some members here have a serious leck of education :roll:

LLLLMMMMAAAAOOOOO

I hope you typed 'leck' by typing mistake :)

you should try typing in faultless german :)

[cut]

wow that's great footage..


My question is were these guys moving around the city with there heads sticking out of the turret?

they weren't that's them getting out, watch the footage.

But they were proably sticking out when they were hit,then they went back in and drove off to a safer place to get help

one had an injured hand and the other seemed to injured lower down, but I trust your judgement

hmmm i didnt see anyone with a lower injury, isaw the guy with the hand, then there was the guy they took out on the strechter and they were working on his chest area hmm


may just have been blood from the injury higer up. I'll watch it again to check.

[bluered12]

This pic is not from today, but I didn´t know where else to put it

http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2004/04/04/weekinreview/Glanz583.jpg


In Iraq, hired guns guarding the American administrator, L. Paul Bremer III, second from right, and an Iraqi official.


source: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/04/weekinreview/04glan.html?ex=1082131453&ei=1&en=a6911fd3f64db8dc

[Felix]

Nazis are left wing? THe same nazis who were the most fervent anti-communists, killing millions? the same nazis that the CIA employed after the war to screw the red soviets? wow.


Some people need to pick up a book abd check their facts before they post **** like this. Dumbass.

[Seoulstriker]

http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2004/04/04/weekinreview/Glanz583.jpg

damn, that's a short barrel.

[Merik]

I dont get it. If the al-Sadr f*$@ers can sit there with weapons loaded and "look" at our positions, why cant we just take them out? If they have a weapon shoot the little bastards.

[fdt]

tacticalmanta wrote:


Bush is from the right wing. NAZIs are left wing socialist scum.

Nooooooooooooooo! :cantbeli:How do You translate the NSDAP? National SOCIALISTische Deutsche Arbeiter Partei... correct?

[HELEX]

How do You translate the NSDAP? National SOCIALISTische Deutsche Arbeiter Partei... correct?

So is everything that what its name says? :cantbeli:

Remember the DDR or GDR called in english: German Democratic Republic

And was it democratic? http://www.smiliemania.de/smilie.php?smile_ID=125

[mustamato]

And was it democratic? http://www.smiliemania.de/smilie.php?smile_ID=125

HAHAHAHAHAH. Oh my God that was hilarious. You´r the main man HELEX.
You and I should hang out some day and drink some beers, burn a American
flag, get arrested and end up at Guantanamo bay for life.

[He219]

I want to apologize to Kingpin. Seeing those pic's earlier put me on edge and I was a bit short.

More images:

http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7230/7230620.jpg

A kidnap victim who gave his indentity as Ahmed Yassin Tikati is seen in this image made from television, Thursday April 8, 2004. Tikati has been kidnapped by Iraqi insurgents in Iraq. Also taken hostage with Tikati was Nabil Razouk. Anto Razouk, an uncle of Nabi, told The Associated Press that his nephew was an Israeli citizen with an Israeli passport who was working for the U.S. Agency for International Development. (AP Photo/CH10 via APTN)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3265502.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE0E4BDEFD9FEAF5B54ED8DA6706905A3E

BAGHDAD, IRAQ - APRIL 8: A U.S. Army tank rolls into Sadr City with the 2-8 Regiment of the1st Armored Division Cavalry as a military surveillance plane circles overhead April 8, 2004 in the Baghdad suburb of Sadr City in Iraq. Tensions are high in the area which is peaceful for the moment with violence continuing in Fallujah. U.S. forces struck and damaged the al-Sadr office just before dawn. (Photo by Paula Bronstein/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3265447.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DEB0DB8E5DD10C4A141A5E78E61C1FB2BC

BAGHDAD, IRAQ - APRIL 8: U.S. Army soldiers with the 2-8 Regiment of the1st Armored Division Cavalry watch as a military surveillance plane circle overhead April 8,2004 in the Baghdad suburb of Sadr City in Iraq. Tensions are high in the area which is peaceful for the moment with violence continuing in Fallujah. U.S. forces struck and damaged the al-Sadr office just before dawn. (Photo by Paula Bronstein/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3266571.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DED35A47A2347CBA18DB3238F3AF682FEB

BAGHDAD, IRAQ - APRIL 8: U.S. Army soldier Private First Class Jared McBride from Long Beach, California with the 2-8 Regiment of the1st Armored Division Cavalry smokes a cigarette whilst standing guard April 8,2004 in the Baghdad suburb of Sadr City in Iraq. Tensions are high in the area which is peaceful for the moment with violence continuing in Fallujah. U.S. forces struck and damaged the al-Sadr office just before dawn. (Photo by Paula Bronstein/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3266563.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DED35A47A2347CBA18DA18CC604034FF77

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3265527.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE0E4BDEFD9FEAF5B5AC52C5ECD16C2D17

BAGHDAD, IRAQ - APRIL 8: U.S. Army Sargent David Walker from Eagle River, Alaska with the 2-8 Regiment of the1st Armored Division Cavalry tries to get some badly needed rest after only getting two hours sleep April 8, 2004 in the Baghdad suburb of Sadr City in Iraq. Tensions are high in the area which is peaceful for the moment with violence continuing in Fallujah. U.S. forces struck and damaged the al-Sadr office just before dawn. (Photo by Paula Bronstein/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3266570.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DED35A47A2347CBA18E3F5412FD7087446

BAGHDAD, IRAQ - APRIL 8: UA U.S. Army Lieutenant with the 2-8 Regiment of the1st Armored Division Cavalry gets some sleep inside of a Bradley fighting vehicle April 8,2004 in the Baghdad suburb of Sadr City in Iraq. Tensions are high in the area which is peaceful for the moment with violence continuing in Fallujah. U.S. forces struck and damaged the al-Sadr office just before dawn. (Photo by Paula Bronstein/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3265422.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DEB0DB8E5DD10C4A149FE1BEB81B737A4A

BAGHDAD, IRAQ - APRIL 8: U.S. Army Specialist David Newland from Palmdale, California with the 2-8 Regiment of the1st Armored Division Cavalry aims his gun to keep at Sadr City youths to make them keep their distance April 8,2004 in the Baghdad suburb of Sadr City in Iraq. Tensions are high in the area which is peaceful for the moment with violence continuing in Fallujah. U.S. forces struck and damaged the al-Sadr office just before dawn. (Photo by Paula Bronstein/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3258363.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE65783DC799965AAADA18CC604034FF77

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3258362.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE65783DC799965AAA43DB7DDBE2C4DDF2

BAGHDAD, IRAQ - APRIL 8: The Najeen statue is seen in Fardus Square adorned with a poster of Moqtada al SadrApril 8,2004 in Baghdad. The sculpture created by an artist named Najeen is a representation of Iraqi life. Tanks rolled in to close the area around the square for security reasons a day before the one year anniversary of the Fall of Saddam and the toppling of Saddam's statue. Tensions are high in Sadr City with violence continuing in Fallujah between the insurgents and the U.S. forces. (Photo by Paula Bronstein/***** Images)

http://cache.*****images.com/comp/3258329.jpg?x=x&dasite=MS_GINS&ef=2&ev=1&dareq=E2399169AC85D6DE65783DC799965AAA64FF7D947A70AD2C

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FALLUJAH, IRAQ: US marines from the 1st Battalion 5th Marines lead a hooded detainee out of a military vehicle in Fallujah, 50 km West of Baghdad, 08 April, 2004. US marines met ferocious resistance in the western Iraqi town of Fallujah as they pressed a four-day offensive against Sunni Muslim insurgents. AFP PHOTO/Cris BOURONCLE (Photo credit should read CRIS BOURONCLE/AFP/***** Images)

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FALLUJAH, IRAQ: US marines from the 1st Battalion 5th Marines walk pass guns and ammunitions confiscated in Fallujah, 50 km West of Baghdad, 08 April, 2004. US marines met ferocious resistance in the western Iraqi town of Fallujah as they pressed a four-day offensive against Sunni Muslim insurgents, prompting their commander to make comparisons with the Vietnam war. AFP PHOTO/Cris BOURONCLE (Photo credit should read CRIS BOURONCLE/AFP/***** Images)

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FALLUJAH, IRAQ: A US marine from the 1st Battalion 5th Marines watches the road as he travels in a convoy in Fallujah, 50 km West of Baghdad, 08 April, 2004. US marines met ferocious resistance in the western Iraqi town of Fallujah as they pressed a four-day offensive against Sunni Muslim insurgents. AFP PHOTO/Cris BOURONCLE (Photo credit should read CRIS BOURONCLE/AFP/***** Images)

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FALLUJAH, IRAQ: A US marine from the 1st Battalion 5th Marines take cover on a rooftop in Fallujah, 50 km West of Baghdad, 08 April, 2004. US marines met ferocious resistance in the western Iraqi town of Fallujah as they pressed a four-day offensive against Sunni Muslim insurgents. AFP PHOTO/Cris BOURONCLE (Photo credit should read CRIS BOURONCLE/AFP/***** Images)


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QUITO, ECUADOR: Hundreds of riot policemen arrive at Prison II in Quito, as mutineers began to release hostages 08 April, 2004. Ecuador's interior minister, Raul Baca, said Thursday a preliminary agreement had been reached that could end prison uprisings over living conditions that have been under way in Quito, Guayaquil and Cuenca. Since Tuesday inmates at several Ecuadoran jails have held 340 people hostage to protest overcrowding and grim living conditions, as well as seeking the release of prisoners who have been held in jail for more than a year without trial. AFP PHOTO/MARTIN BERNETTI (Photo credit should read MARTIN BERNETTI/AFP/***** Images)

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=581857

Afghan warlord General Abdul Rashid Dostum arrives at his base near Mazar-e-Sharif in this Nov. 28, 2001 file photo. Militias loyal to Dostum took control Thursday, April 8, 2004 of a provincial capital in northern Afghanistan after forcing the governor and a rival commander to flee in what could be the biggest challenge yet to U.S.-backed President Hamid Karzai's authority. (AP Photo/Darko Bandic, File)

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=581794

Tribal volunteers leave to look for terrorists hiding in the areas in Wana of Pakistan's tribal belt of South Waziristan along Afghanistan border Wednesday, April 7, 2004. Pakistani forces have drawn a bead on a cluster of remote hideouts along the Afghan border and promised Thursday to send thousands of soldiers in a fierce crackdown if tribesmen there do not hand over al-Qaida terrorists by April 20. (AP Photo/str)

[perdurabo]

http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2004/04/04/weekinreview/Glanz583.jpg

shiiit i see Samoobrona is spreading on all the world rofl rofl

this party uses almoust only withe-red stripped ties its they symbol
like this guy:
http://www.krakow.pl/czat/goscie/leon_grzybek.jpg
they are real dumbass but they can win elections :(

[mustamato]

http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=581857

Afghan warlord General Abdul Rashid Dostum arrives at his base near Mazar-e-Sharif in this Nov. 28, 2001 file photo. Militias loyal to Dostum took control Thursday, April 8, 2004 of a provincial capital in northern Afghanistan after forcing the governor and a rival commander to flee in what could be the biggest challenge yet to U.S.-backed President Hamid Karzai's authority. (AP Photo/Darko Bandic, File)

Always hated this douchebag. I guess US/ISAF gets punished now by being
so naive that they had him as an "ally". I hope he ends his days under the tracks
of a IFV/MBT, the way he had POW´s killed back in the days.

[Operation Ivy]

So many tanks woot :hug:

[Denat]

U.S. Central Command Commander Gen. John Abizaid, second from right, is escorted by Polish troops during a visit to Camp Babylon, Iraq. Abizaid received a briefing on operations happening conducted in the area. Polish general Bieniek is in command of the Multinational Division Central South, which is comprised of 21 different nations. This photo appeared on www.army.mil.

http://www4.army.mil/OCPA/uploads/large/040314-F-2902B-001.jpg

[Herrmannek]

Guy in the middle best foregrip on beryl i've seen so far woot

[Fox2]

http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7228/7228888.jpg
How was that shot down. Probably just with AK:s :|

Who said it was shot down?

[mustamato]

Bienieks camo looks very shiny compared to the other Poles uniforms.

[Herrmannek]

he has older version :)

[mustamato]

he has older version :)

Then I can understand why they changed it. The new one blends in better.

[perdurabo]

Guy in the middle best foregrip on beryl i've seen so far woot
borrowed from iraqi AK47 ...
left one has something else hmmm
its 1PSK (Comando) they are good :)

[He219]

FANTASTIC first post, Denat!
:D

Fox2:

BAQOUBA, Iraq - A U.S. military helicopter made an emergency landing in the city of Baqouba on Wednesday after it was hit by small arms fire, the military said.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040407/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_helicopter_crash_5

[Herrmannek]

FANTASTIC first post, Denat!
indeed, welcome

[wulfstan]

I dont get it. If the al-Sadr f*$@ers can sit there with weapons loaded and "look" at our positions, why cant we just take them out? If they have a weapon shoot the little bastards.

I wondering the same thing. The situation is soooo different to a few days back that it surely almost suits the US army. Therefore if you have a weapon you are a legitimite target.

Of course, posing for journalists with a shiny AK or RPG miles from any enemy positions is different, but you know what i mean.

[mack pl]

Yeah,they are from 1 Special Commando regiment.I hope they will get new weapons,like GROM .BTW witka Denat :)

[Marmot1]

damn iraqi Handgrip on this Beryl :-)

[Fox2]

Fox2:

BAQOUBA, Iraq - A U.S. military helicopter made an emergency landing in the city of Baqouba on Wednesday after it was hit by small arms fire, the military said.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040407/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_helicopter_crash_5

Ah, okay. My mistake and apologies. I missed the "after it was hit by small arms fire". :cantbeli:

Sorry.

[He219]

No need to be sorry, Fox2!

p-)

http://accuweather.ap.org/apdbs/Intl_Photos/views/mini/7230/7230883.jpg

A U.S. Marine guards a road to Fallujah, Iraq, Thursday, April 8, 2004, as a vehicle carrying medical supply drives past. Hundreds of Iraqis inspected by U.S. Marines entered the city of Fallujah taking with them tons of food and medical supply to the besieged city. U.S. Marines have been fighting insurgents in several neighborhoods in the western city of Fallujah in order to regain control of the city. (AP Photo/Murad Sezer)

[Denat]

Guy in the middle best foregrip on beryl i've seen so far woot
borrowed from iraqi AK47 ...
left one has something else hmmm
or maybe from romanian AK-47 - some kind of interallied cooperation :P

Witam wszystkich ;) :hug:

[podkus]

http://ww2.tvp.pl/tvppl/video/2004/04/08/14839/film.asf

[deutschersoldat]

http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2004/04/08/international/IRAQ.slide6.jpg

is that a h&k g3 ??

[MVSpartan117]

Yup

[hank]

http://a.relaunch.focus.de/img/gen/W/E/HBWEAE7aWSy_Pxgen_rc_Ax333,400x333.jpg
Journalist? His head looks caved in, but would the Kevlar Helmet cave in also?

NBC news reported las night that this man had stolen that vest. I have bo idea if that is accurate but that was the report.

hank

[Rantanplan]

Edit: Tosh

[He219]

http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2004/04/08/international/IRAQ.slide6.jpg

is that a h&k g3 ??
Could be any number of G3 clones, this one likely of Iranian origin. Greece and many other nations produced them under license. Even H&K produced them under license from CETEME of Spain, the developer of the series ...

p-)

[American Patriot]

LOL I thought that was a smashed in PASGT helmet on him. It's actually a rock. rofl

[tacticalmanta]

tacticalmanta wrote:


Bush is from the right wing. NAZIs are left wing socialist scum.

Nooooooooooooooo! :cantbeli:

Can't get much more socialist than the concept of Volk, Volkwagen... and other workers party issues. NAZIs are extreme left. Nothing is scarier than the left.

[American Patriot]

Good website for the HELEX type: http://www.democraticunderground.com

I lost 6 IQ points everytime I read the forum there.

[Rantanplan]

tacticalmanta wrote:


Bush is from the right wing. NAZIs are left wing socialist scum.

Nooooooooooooooo! :cantbeli:

Can't get much more socialist than the concept of Volk, Volkwagen... and other workers party issues. NAZIs are extreme left. Nothing is scarier than the left.


nonsense

[American Patriot]

I think some people here would benefit from reading this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi).

[AFG]

http://ww2.tvp.pl/tvppl/video/2004/04/08/14839/film.asf
F*ckin bastards...

[5jumpchump]

Animals . ****ing animals .

[Macs.]

Animals . f*** animals .

Even animals don't act like this.

[Marmot1]

Guy in the middle best foregrip on beryl i've seen so far woot
borrowed from iraqi AK47 ...
left one has something else hmmm
or maybe from romanian AK-47 - some kind of interallied cooperation :P

Witam wszystkich ;) :hug:

well in fact those IIRAQI AK ARE ROMANIAN SO YOU ARE RIGHT ;)

[FinnishMF]

Animals . f*** animals .

Even animals don't act like this.
Western media don't show clips like those :|
Sad, but they see it is their only way to affect things.

They think wrong thought.

:bash:

[cheukkin]

America army suck !! They look really scare by face expression in photos in this couples day. They don't look well trained army for the real war with the big contrast with iraqi rebel or even british army.

SO America will toast!!!
:lol:

[Romulus]

F*** off cheukkin. :-*$

[American Patriot]

America army suck !! They look really scare by face expression in photos in this couples day. They don't look well trained army for the real war with the big contrast with iraqi rebel or even british army.

SO America will toast!!!
:lol:

Blow me. :lol:

[Ratamacue]

Ignore the troll.

[squeak]

http://www4.army.mil/OCPA/uploads/featurePhoto/040323-A-9930K-019.jpg

I like that cam job on the Humvee from the first page of pics. Very nice.

[cut]

I think some people here would benefit from reading this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi).

do you even know what nazi is short for?

[Macs.]

America army suck !! They look really scare by face expression in photos in this couples day. They don't look well trained army for the real war with the big contrast with iraqi rebel or even british army.

SO America will toast!!!
:lol:

Thats true, real soldiers NEVER fear.

And they are not trained, and well equiped like the chinese Army ! COMMUNISM FOREVER !

[Gordon]

Animals . f*** animals .

Even animals don't act like this.

Out of interest, animals don't run around shooting each other with guns either, most of the carnivores kill other animals to eat, that's about it, i think .... other than my cat, of course who likes playing with and killing other animals for fun.

edit - it usually ends up eating them too so ...

[American Patriot]

I think some people here would benefit from reading this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi).

do you even know what nazi is short for?

what the hell are you on about?

[cut]

I'm pointing out the inconsistencies in calling nazism socialist. But it depends on who you were aiming that post at.

[farmgirl]

Thanks.... as always for the pics, He219. :) James pointed this out to me, or I probably would have missed it, but Bloomfield is only about 20 miles away from where I live! That's cool. I'll have to make sure the locals see this one! :D


Lt. Gen. James T. Conway, Commanding General of Ist Marine Expeditionary Force, second left, talks with U.S. Marine Lcpl Shane F. Strachan of Bloomfield, Iowa, with the 2nd Battalion 1st Marine Regiment, left, in the outskirts of Fallujah, Iraq, Wednesday, April 7, 2004. Hundreds of U.S. Marines attacked several neighborhoods in the western Iraqi city of Fallujah in order to regain control of the city. (AP Photo/Murad Sezer)

[Apogee]

you're up late MD

[farmgirl]

you're up late MD


It's okay.... no school tomorrow! :D They don't call it Good Friday for nothin'!! ;)

[tacticalmanta]

I'm pointing out the inconsistencies in calling nazism socialist. But it depends on who you were aiming that post at.

Nothing inconsistant with calling NAZIs socialist; quite simpley because they are. The national part of national socialist is consistant with the left today as you see the anti-globalisation freaks happen to be socialist/ communist. In fact, it was the right wing that politically opposed the NAZIs. Socialism does not have to include ever member of society. However, the NAZIs were bascially an out of control workers union. It seems emotions have many of you Europeans blind to the realities and the irony of Europe today.

[Tengu]

Can't get much more socialist than the concept of Volk, Volkwagen... and other workers party issues. NAZIs are extreme left. Nothing is scarier than the left.Sweet jebus, nazi's are right wing extremists :cantbeli: . Who the hell told you they were lefties??

[Shadow]

@tacticalmanta
rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
Lol!
Go and visit a school.
You are my new no.1 in my "Hall of Stupidity"
I would kick you for such a stupid comment.
OMG :cantbeli:

btw? Do you think the commies are right extremists?
Beacause according to your opinipn the nazis killed their lefty brothers and banned a left wing party. (KPD = Kommunistische Partei Deuschlands)

[cut]

I'm pointing out the inconsistencies in calling nazism socialist. But it depends on who you were aiming that post at.

Nothing inconsistant with calling NAZIs socialist; quite simpley because they are. The national part of national socialist is consistant with the left today as you see the anti-globalisation freaks happen to be socialist/ communist. In fact, it was the right wing that politically opposed the NAZIs. Socialism does not have to include ever member of society. However, the NAZIs were bascially an out of control workers union. It seems emotions have many of you Europeans blind to the realities and the irony of Europe today.

Hitler hated the communists, if the nazi were only socialist, as opposed to socialist nationalists then, they would have been anti-semitic. Hitler mixed, left-wing socialism (rebuilding a ruined country, making it into a world power) and right-wing nationalism (killing jews, ethnically cleansing europe, and declaring war on the world). Now which of those two is the bad, exteremist policy? What are the nazis hated for? Puting Germany back on track after ww1 (and yes I know he stop repayments, but the point stil stands) or killing jews left, right and center. The evil in nazism came from the right-wing elements.

[cut]

http://a.relaunch.focus.de/img/gen/W/E/HBWEAE7aWSy_Pxgen_rc_Ax333,400x333.jpg
Journalist? His head looks caved in, but would the Kevlar Helmet cave in also?

NBC news reported las night that this man had stolen that vest. I have bo idea if that is accurate but that was the report.

hank

if this man is not with the coalition why has is head been crushed by a rock?

[Haiw]

I suppose cut put it pretty well, but here's the kindergarten version so all of you will understand:

After WW1, and partially due to the measures forced upon Germany after it, Germany was pretty much in the gutter. Now what was the socialist part of the Nazi's? They took good care of the unemployment, and had some pretty good projects, for one the autobahn (also one of the things that skyrocketed employment), and the volkswagen. Now actually, in the early years, when you'd take away the anti-jew stuff and all you have to give it to them nazi's; they DID pull Germany out of the gutter. Wouldn't they have the utterly retarded anti-jew and German superiority ideas then they might have actually become known as the 'saviors' of Germany. But alas, that did not happen. All the 'bad things' the Nazi's were known for had totally nothing to do with leftwing.

[tacticalmanta]

Someone made a comment on my education, which is funny since I might be the most educated here.

Nationalism is not unique to the right wing or a right wing ideal per se. Actually, nationalism is very strong in countries like Venezuela and
Cuba. As I mentioned earlier, a lot of the anti-globalisation people are nationalist and extreme left. All the good things that you mentioned the NAZIs did, vis-a-vis workers, unemployment, volkswagon and so on are SOCIALIST. Now just because one country is socialist does not mean it is automatically going to be buddy buddy with a communist country. Communist countries have fought against each other!

All I see is a lot of ignorant European emotion. The propaganda machine has poisoned the minds of many into thinking NAZIs = right wing; the opposite is true, which I have already proved several times. The NAZI party was in direct opposition to the right.. and as a workers union, that makes it pretty far left!

It's quite clear that I am not the one lacking in education.

[khukuri]

http://a.relaunch.focus.de/img/gen/N/D/HBNDA8mayRu_Pxgen_rc_Ax333,400x333.jpg

what is this?

[HELEX]

"Molotow Cocktails" in the making...

[FinnishMF]

Someone made a comment on my education, which is funny since I might be the most educated here.

Nationalism is not unique to the right wing or a right wing ideal per se. Actually, nationalism is very strong in countries like Venezuela and
Cuba. As I mentioned earlier, a lot of the anti-globalisation people are nationalist and extreme left. All the good things that you mentioned the NAZIs did, vis-a-vis workers, unemployment, volkswagon and so on are SOCIALIST. Now just because one country is socialist does not mean it is automatically going to be buddy buddy with a communist country. Communist countries have fought against each other!

All I see is a lot of ignorant European emotion. The propaganda machine has poisoned the minds of many into thinking NAZIs = right wing; the opposite is true, which I have already proved several times. The NAZI party was in direct opposition to the right.. and as a workers union, that makes it pretty far left!

It's quite clear that I am not the one lacking in education.

Please.. stop :lol:

And how educated are you ? Tell us :lol:

[cut]

Someone made a comment on my education, which is funny since I might be the most educated here.

Nationalism is not unique to the right wing or a right wing ideal per se. Actually, nationalism is very strong in countries like Venezuela and
Cuba. As I mentioned earlier, a lot of the anti-globalisation people are nationalist and extreme left. All the good things that you mentioned the NAZIs did, vis-a-vis workers, unemployment, volkswagon and so on are SOCIALIST. Now just because one country is socialist does not mean it is automatically going to be buddy buddy with a communist country. Communist countries have fought against each other!

All I see is a lot of ignorant European emotion. The propaganda machine has poisoned the minds of many into thinking NAZIs = right wing; the opposite is true, which I have already proved several times. The NAZI party was in direct opposition to the right.. and as a workers union, that makes it pretty far left!

It's quite clear that I am not the one lacking in education.

Nazis had both left wing and right aspects, yes they were called "socialist" but then Tony Blair is in the Socialist party, is he a nazi too? or even a socialist for that matter?

Nationalism is mainly found in right wing parties, but it does creep into other extreme parties, socialism is not extreme in the slightest, socialism has been around longer than communism and should not be mixed up. You say we in europe have been poisoned into believing that nazis are right wing, this is not true, nazis are not particularly right-wing or left wing, the nazis had some socialist policies. As you said used them to deal with unemployment (success!), volkswagen (great cars, another success), and productivity (considering they had no army at the end of WW1, bloody impressive too). I say to you that in america, "the propaganda machine has poisoned the minds of many into thinking" that socialism and communism are one and the same.

If Hitler's nazi party was really socialist why not call it that, because it wasn't it was fascist. A mix of right and left wing, he is not the only person/party to use such a mix, Tony Blair and New Labour are not exactly traditional socialists, or even social-democrats, i suggest you look at this site to find out, www.thirdway.org.

The unlikely pairing of Hitler and Blair have shown that Politics is not just right and left. In a good way and in a bad way.

[catchv22]

http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2004/04/08/international/IRAQ.slide6.jpg

There seems to be a long barrelled AK variant in the background. What is it? RPK without a bipod?

[ShotOver]

Looks like a Iraqi version of the SVD, with a larger magazine.

[Brozozo]

America army suck !! They look really scare by face expression in photos in this couples day. They don't look well trained army for the real war with the big contrast with iraqi rebel or even british army.

SO America will toast!!!
:lol:

Chinese soldiers are boyscouts compared to American soldiers. Americans killed them by the thousands in the Korean War. Don't kid yourself. A single carrier group is preventing China from taking back Taiwan, PATHETIC! How many Chinese soldiers have combat experience. They are all f*ckin conscripts, if anybody actually wanted to serve in the Chinese army there would be no need for conscription. "Not well trained" :slap: ? The Chinese army looks like a bunch of midgets running around in ill-fitting uniforms with cheap remakes of Russian rifles, tripping over each other. What does China's army have to pride itself with? The ability to re-engineer foreign equipment into cheap quality copies and parade through streets showing it off? If China tried any military action in its current state it'd be toast. :bash:

[Denat]

America army suck !! They look really scare by face expression in photos in this couples day. They don't look well trained army for the real war with the big contrast with iraqi rebel or even british army.

SO America will toast!!!
:lol:

Chinese soldiers are boyscouts compared to American soldiers. Americans killed them by the thousands in the Korean War. Don't kid yourself. A single carrier group is preventing China from taking back Taiwan, PATHETIC! How many Chinese soldiers have combat experience. They are all f*ckin conscripts, if anybody actually wanted to serve in the Chinese army there would be no need for conscription. "Not well trained" :slap: ? The Chinese army looks like a bunch of midgets running around in ill-fitting uniforms with cheap remakes of Russian rifles, tripping over each other. What does China's army have to pride itself with? The ability to re-engineer foreign equipment into cheap quality copies and parade through streets showing it off? If China tried any military action in its current state it'd be toast. :bash:

I agree with you that proffesional army can't be compared with conscripts, but remember that the real power of China and Chinese army is in numbers not in quality. Americans killed them by the thousands in the Korean War - but those f**** comunists were still coming from the second side of Yalu river. They will not count their casualties in case of any war - they will be just sending more and more to die - just like in Korea they did. There is a lot of them to die ;)

[Denat]

BTW I don't understand why there are so many stupid people who are against the United States and don't understand that Uncle Sam is preventing their asses from f***** muslim terrorists. Terrorism and fanatic muslims are danger for every civilized nation but stupid liberals in Europe are blind and dumb.

[tacticalmanta]

I got 3 billion bullets waiting