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http://www.cnn.com/2006/BUSINESS/10/02/uk.betting.reut/index.html
LONDON, England (*******) -- Online gaming firms faced their biggest-ever crisis on Monday after U.S. Congress unexpectedly passed legislation to ban online gaming there, threatening jobs and hitting stocks by as much as 70 percent.
Britain's PartyGaming Plc, operator of leading online poker site PartyPoker.com, and rivals Sportingbet and 888 Plc said they would likely pull out of the United States and warned on future profits.
PartyGaming's shares fell 59 percent by 0725 GMT, while Sportingbet lost 64 percent, 888 was down 45 percent and gaming software provider Playtech fell 55 percent. Austria's bwin.com Interactive Entertainment fell as much as 22 percent in the first few minutes of trading.
U.S. Congress unexpectedly approved a bill early on Saturday that would make it illegal for banks and credit-card companies to make payments to online gambling sites.
The House of Representatives and Senate approved the measure and sent it to President George W. Bush to sign into law. Most analysts think his approval is certain.
"We believe that this will have a very material impact on the long-term prospects of online gambling, and in particular poker," said analyst Julian Easthope at UBS. "This will lead to a rapid decline in the use of online poker sites."
RIP to all those Amercians who have "donated" their money to me in the fine art of netpoker. Now I need to find other suckers to finance my luxurious life =(
Morboute
10-02-2006, 08:56 AM
that gotta be the lamest thing i have read today. :|
signatory
10-02-2006, 08:56 AM
U.S. Congress unexpectedly approved a bill early on Saturday that would make it illegal for banks and credit-card companies to make payments to online gambling sites.
Jesus c...
That's insane.
a_very_ex_STAB
10-02-2006, 08:59 AM
The land of the free :roll:
Hellfish
10-02-2006, 09:05 AM
Jesus doesn't like gambling.
signatory
10-02-2006, 09:25 AM
So what is defined as online? Is it OK to have computer terminals in malls, bars, gas stations where you can play poker as long as you don't do it on the internet? what gives?
Deftoner
10-02-2006, 09:52 AM
found this.......
http://www.liqueurweb.com/legal-gambling.htm
....maybe it sheds some light.
kosse
10-02-2006, 10:00 AM
The land of the free :roll:
2x. Another evidence that US is run by narrow-minded religious fanatics?
Greek soldier
10-02-2006, 10:02 AM
So what is defined as online? Is it OK to have computer terminals in malls, bars, gas stations where you can play poker as long as you don't do it on the internet? what gives?
The Greek Socialists completely banned gampling (except casinos) throughout Greece, be it on-line or not.:|
Edit: Don't worry, Gibraltar is said to accept on-line gambling and poker websites. p-)
Pook2
10-02-2006, 10:05 AM
Do you people really care this much?
ShotOver
10-02-2006, 10:07 AM
Do you people really care this much?
x2 Do you lot actually online gamble with real money? Thats pretty messed up.
kosse
10-02-2006, 10:09 AM
Do you people really care this much?
Don't you care about your country slipping slowly but surely (bit by bit) into totalitarism?
kosse
10-02-2006, 10:09 AM
x2 Do you lot actually online gamble with real money? Thats pretty messed up.
We are worried that this will stop us robbing you rednecks blind p-)
ShotOver
10-02-2006, 10:11 AM
We are worried that this will stop us robbing you rednecks blind p-)
Look at my location champion. Im not in the USA.
wubanga101
10-02-2006, 10:12 AM
Don't you care about your country slipping slowly but surely (bit by bit) into totalitarism?
pfft...im tired of making my own decisions
kosse
10-02-2006, 10:15 AM
Look at my location champion. Im not in the USA.
Ahh but the difference isn't that big. US concubine nonetheless.
Miles.
10-02-2006, 10:17 AM
Don't you care about your country slipping slowly but surely (bit by bit) into totalitarism?
"We have a right to gamble!! It's in the Constitution." rofl rofl
I don't know how far it's going to take us into totalitarianism, but I can figure that Congress can't make any tax revenue off of online gambling, so they ban it.
Big deal. If you're gettin your shoes, coat, and hat took online by some toothless Brits, Congress is doing you a big favor.
Deftoner
10-02-2006, 10:17 AM
x2 Do you lot actually online gamble with real money? Thats pretty messed up.
x3 -- its like giving me your credit card number. Wanna? its a gamble.....c'mon just try.... you might win
Miles.
10-02-2006, 10:18 AM
Ahh but the difference isn't that big. US concubine nonetheless.
Kosse,
You're an idiot.
wubanga101
10-02-2006, 10:20 AM
Ahh but the difference isn't that big. US concubine nonetheless.
dont get me started:)
kosse
10-02-2006, 10:22 AM
Kosse,
You're an idiot.
I thought Oz was the best (butt)**** buddy after UK to US p-)
Do you people really care this much?
Nah, it's just another chance for the same 'ole posters here to bash and mock America.
Miles.
10-02-2006, 10:27 AM
I thought Oz was the best (butt)**** buddy after UK to US p-)
That's what you get for thinking.
Oh my God, how could I be so naive??!?! George W. Bush, the Devil himself, has banned online gambling in a blatant attempt to distract the American sheeple from his failed foreign policy and War on Terror (War on the Good People of the Islamic Faith).
kosse
10-02-2006, 10:27 AM
dont get me started:)
I am merely trying to warm my hands p-)
edit: and it looks like it works :)
wubanga101
10-02-2006, 10:30 AM
KOSSE keep your sick sick finnish hands to yourself
ShotOver
10-02-2006, 10:32 AM
Ahh but the difference isn't that big. US concubine nonetheless.
Mate. That's over the line. **** you.
GeraldDuval
10-02-2006, 10:33 AM
Well, this is certainly unexpected...
Scrim
10-02-2006, 10:38 AM
Don't know why you all you Johnny foreigners are laughing. You know we like imposing our will on other countries. I see sanctions on countries who encourage this "evil". You Limeys are first.
I heard prohibition is making a come back as well. It worked so well the first time.
kosse
10-02-2006, 10:40 AM
Mate. That's over the line. **** you.
I'd but yours is too far away :)
ShotOver
10-02-2006, 10:43 AM
I'd but yours is too far away :)
Dude, what?
*feels uncomfortable*
GoNavy
10-02-2006, 10:44 AM
All the f*cking dumbasses who can't control themselves ruin it for everyone... I love poker and playing some $1 games online is a great way to pass the time. What's the reasoning behind this? "Gambling is bad, go to church, bla bla bla?"
Miles.
10-02-2006, 10:46 AM
All the f*cking dumbasses who can't control themselves ruin it for everyone... I love poker and playing some $1 games online is a great way to pass the time. What's the reasoning behind this? "Gambling is bad, go to church, bla bla bla?"
George W. Bush, the Devil himself, has banned online gambling in a blatant attempt to distract the American sheeple from his failed foreign policy and War on Terror (War on the Good People of the Islamic Faith).
The Republican Party doesn't want you gambling your hard-earned dollars away to foreigners.
Go play the stock market.
kosse
10-02-2006, 10:46 AM
Dude, what?
*feels uncomfortable*
My bad. It seems that we have a language barrier here. "**** you" translates to Finnish as "Haista vittu" which means literally "Sniff/nose pussy". :|
ShotOver
10-02-2006, 10:47 AM
It seems that we have a language barrier here. "**** you" translates to Finnish as "Haista vittu" which means literally "Sniff/nose pussy". :|
Ok Mr. Crazy Language man.
CruddyLeper
10-02-2006, 10:48 AM
Nah, it's just another chance for the same 'ole posters here to bash and mock America.
[/MOCK]
While I don't see anything wrong (in theory) with this legislation, there is a bit of a stumbling block.
It's not 100% enforceable.
I can't help thinking that regulation of vice is much better than prohibition, because it takes the money out of the hands of criminals.
Still, if the US govt wants to spend it's time in this (non-profitable) way, who am I to complain?
[MOCK]
Miles.
10-02-2006, 10:49 AM
Ok Mr. Crazy Language man.
Don't hold it against him. He's from Sweden, or was it Denmark?
Bah...they're all the same...
kamarian
10-02-2006, 10:49 AM
Ahh but the difference isn't that big. US concubine nonetheless.
Wanker.....
Miles.
10-02-2006, 10:50 AM
Wanker.....
Didn't you know? The United States colonized the UK and Australia. You're a damn concubine.
"Fix my supper, woman! And what are you wearing shoes for?!?!?!"
kosse
10-02-2006, 10:51 AM
Don't hold it against him. He's from Sweden, or was it Denmark?
Bah...they're all the same...
I don't really care if what you say about my country. Be it Tom of Finland, Ivan the bear's buttfcuk buddy, Sweden's vassal or anything else. I'd be very worried about my sense of humour if I'd take offense about a thing like that :)
Miles.
10-02-2006, 10:54 AM
I don't really care if what you say about my country. Be it Tom of Finland, Ivan the bear's buttfcuk buddy, Sweden's vassal or anything else. I'd be very worried about my sense of humour if I'd take offense about a thing like that :)
Good. It works out. Because I don't really care about Finland at all, even if they are Russia's eternal bitch.
;)
Morboute
10-02-2006, 10:55 AM
[/MOCK]
While I don't see anything wrong (in theory) with this legislation, there is a bit of a stumbling block.
It's not 100% enforceable.
I can't help thinking that regulation of vice is much better than prohibition, because it takes the money out of the hands of criminals.
Still, if the US govt wants to spend it's time in this (non-profitable) way, who am I to complain?
[MOCK]
You got it wrong, first its then end it with noooob! :)
Who cares?
If you want to gamble, go to Vegas.
Miles.
10-02-2006, 11:00 AM
Who cares?
If you want to gamble, go to Vegas.
That's essentially what Congress has said.
If you want to gamble, drive to the Indian Casinos or fly to Vegas...
God giveth, Congress taketh away.
ShotOver
10-02-2006, 11:00 AM
Good. It works out. Because I don't really care about Finland at all, even if they are Russia's eternal bitch.
;)
HAHAHAHA! Yeah , ****in Yeah! Texas dude pwn0rz the Finnish. Totally, times 10 and everything,.
kamarian
10-02-2006, 11:01 AM
Didn't you know? The United States colonized the UK and Australia. You're a damn concubine.
"Fix my supper, woman! And what are you wearing shoes for?!?!?!"
nup. got nothing
kosse
10-02-2006, 11:02 AM
HAHAHAHA! Yeah , ****in Yeah! Texas dude pwn0rz the Finnish. Totally, times 10 and everything,.
I don't mind :). Getting angry would just prove that there might have been a pinch of truth in the insult, aye?
ShotOver
10-02-2006, 11:04 AM
I don't mind :). Getting angry would just prove that there might have been a pinch of truth in the insult, aye?
Nah mate, what was annoying was that I have never had a real problem with what you post. Then you pull some Australia Loves teh USA ****. And It pissed me off.
Miles.
10-02-2006, 11:07 AM
Nah mate, what was annoying was that I have never had a real problem with what you post. Then you pull some Australia Loves teh USA ****. And It pissed me off.
I believe what he said was Australia is the United States' bitch. Which is so very true...
ShotOver
10-02-2006, 11:09 AM
I believe what he said was Australia is the United States' bitch. Which is so very true...
Right then. **** you AND the horse you rode in on.
Createdeemcee
10-02-2006, 11:09 AM
Nah, it's just another chance for the same 'ole posters here to bash and mock America.
No one is trying to bash us, these guys can see that we are clearly being stripped of our rights more and more day by day. By them commenting and watching us loose more and more freedom, this is an obvious sign of the truth. Stand up and talk if you want to be heard. We (America) are already bashed. I hope we dems gain controll of the floor soon, just to keep things from getting any worse.
signatory
10-02-2006, 11:12 AM
This is the kind of news I expect from dumps like Cuba or Iran, not the US of A.
Miles.
10-02-2006, 11:13 AM
Right then. **** you AND the horse you rode in on.
awwww...A little touchy on the Australian subject?? ;)
ShotOver
10-02-2006, 11:14 AM
awwww...A little touchy on the Australian subject?? ;)
Not as much as your horse is.
Sniffit
10-02-2006, 11:15 AM
This is the kind of news I expect from dumps like Cuba or Iran, not the US of A.
Or sweden ;)
Miles.
10-02-2006, 11:15 AM
Considering that Congress has the power to regulate commerce, and can't figure out how to make money off of internet gambling, they will ban it. Then you have to go to Casinos, where Congress DOES make money.
It's not a conspiracy to remove freedoms...it's self-serving policy to fill the coffers of the US government. Big deal.
Miles.
10-02-2006, 11:16 AM
Not as much as your horse is.
You leave my whores alone!
kamarian
10-02-2006, 11:18 AM
I believe what he said was Australia is the United States' bitch. Which is so very true...
Wanker......
Miles.
10-02-2006, 11:19 AM
If you live below the Equator, do you lose your sense of humor??
SARCASM, WILL ROBINSON!
CruddyLeper
10-02-2006, 11:20 AM
You got it wrong, first its then end it with noooob! :)
Not at all. Go and read the whole post again, boon.
GeraldDuval
10-02-2006, 11:24 AM
If anything I'd say that finland was america's concubine. Our TV hosts are on par with your leaders...
http://www.youtube.com/v/e98PEx6baiA
kamarian
10-02-2006, 11:28 AM
If you live below the Equator, do you lose your sense of humor??
SARCASM, WILL ROBINSON!
sorry mate. bit tired here after training.
Miles.
10-02-2006, 11:29 AM
sorry mate. bit tired here after training.
Understood.
kosse
10-02-2006, 11:30 AM
If anything I'd say that finland was america's concubine. Our TV hosts are on par with your leaders...
http://www.youtube.com/v/e98PEx6baiA
Well at least we get some positive publicity unlike the bashing your administration gets p-)
wubanga101
10-02-2006, 11:32 AM
Well at least we get some positive publicity unlike the bashing your administration gets p-)
because nobody gives a SH!t about your administration:roll:
kamarian
10-02-2006, 11:37 AM
Understood.
and the fact is its 0136 here too doesnt help. bugger it. i'm off to bed
GoNavy
10-02-2006, 01:06 PM
To all the people who say "big deal, get over it, go to a casnio" ... You guys obviously wern't effected by this. I know a lot of people, myself included, who will spend 5-10 hours a week playing online poker purely for entertainment, not to try to grind out some cash. You've gotta have a little cash involved or there's no competition in the game...
I used to be able to go home on a friday night, sign up for a $5 tournament and then spend 4-5 hours in there, and maybe win 10-20 bucks. It was cheap entertainment, playing a game that I enjoyed. The cost and convinence factor of online poker are dwarfed by the hassle and expenses of going to a casino for poker, so yeah to me it is a big deal. The gov just eliminated one of my favorite hobbies.
Miles.
10-02-2006, 01:07 PM
To all the people who say "big deal, get over it, go to a casnio" ... You guys obviously wern't effected by this. I know a lot of people, myself included, who will spend 5-10 hours a week playing online poker purely for entertainment, not to try to grind out some cash. You've gotta have a little cash involved or there's no competition in the game...
I used to be able to go home on a friday night, sign up for a $5 tournament and then spend 4-5 hours in there, and maybe win 10-20 bucks. It was cheap entertainment, playing a game that I enjoyed. The cost and convinence factor of online poker are dwarfed by the hassle and expenses of going to a casino for poker, so yeah to me it is a big deal. The gov just eliminated one of my favorite hobbies.
Suck it up. People can't smoke weed legally...
GoNavy
10-02-2006, 01:14 PM
Oh right, because playing online poker and smoking weed are totally on the same level...
Miles.
10-02-2006, 01:15 PM
Oh right, because playing online poker and smoking weed are totally on the same level...
...it's a hobby, right?
kosse
10-02-2006, 01:16 PM
...it's a hobby, right?
Made me laugh :):)
GoNavy
10-02-2006, 01:27 PM
...it's a hobby, right?
Exactly. It's a hobby, and if you're a responsible adult it's nothing more than that. Congress has just eliminated one of my favorite HOBBYs. What's next, violent video games? ****? Those forms of entertainment are just as bad or worse in a lot of those congressmen's eyes.
Miles.
10-02-2006, 01:36 PM
Exactly. It's a hobby, and if you're a responsible adult it's nothing more than that. Congress has just eliminated one of my favorite HOBBYs. What's next, violent video games? ****? Those forms of entertainment are just as bad or worse in a lot of those congressmen's eyes.
That's why I say:
God giveth, Congress taketh away.
Saranof
10-02-2006, 01:42 PM
I hope they do it here too, just to piss people off. I hate the ****ers who sit and hog public computers with their stupid card-games, specialy when they ****ing lose most of the time. They think they look so cool, bunch of wankers.
mudbunny
10-02-2006, 01:46 PM
Degenarate gamblers.
Createdeemcee
10-02-2006, 01:47 PM
Suck it up. People can't smoke weed legally...
Ever hear of Denver Colorado??
Miles.
10-02-2006, 01:50 PM
Ever hear of Denver Colorado??
Ever hear of federal law? It supercedes state law, which means even if you have a medical marijuana script, you are violating federal law and state law.
It's not legal ANYWHERE in the borders of the United States.
Bad things happen when liberals and the Religious Right get together and pass laws...
Ordie
10-02-2006, 02:10 PM
Gambling in the Navy!!!
I'm Shocked, I'm Shocked
To all the people who say "big deal, get over it, go to a casnio" ... You guys obviously wern't effected by this. I know a lot of people, myself included, who will spend 5-10 hours a week playing online poker purely for entertainment, not to try to grind out some cash. You've gotta have a little cash involved or there's no competition in the game...
I used to be able to go home on a friday night, sign up for a $5 tournament and then spend 4-5 hours in there, and maybe win 10-20 bucks. It was cheap entertainment, playing a game that I enjoyed. The cost and convinence factor of online poker are dwarfed by the hassle and expenses of going to a casino for poker, so yeah to me it is a big deal. The gov just eliminated one of my favorite hobbies.
Start a poker club with your friends. Good greif...
Somalimafia
10-02-2006, 02:17 PM
because nobody gives a SH!t about your administration:roll:
Surely you must mean that you dont give a ****.
US government surely does since we currently hold the EU presidency so they have to suck up to us. Also, we are the only non-ex-soviet country (if you dont count the tiny border with Norway (Norwegians = our friends :hug:)) on western Russia's border so NATO would love to conduct some training ops on our soil, if we chose to join.
Good luck with the dealing the gambling ban, but would you please stop insulting our country. Surely you dont like it when we do it to yours.
usa320
10-02-2006, 02:19 PM
who cares. Playing poker online defeats the whole point of playing poker... you know, the booze, the group of buddies, the smoky dim room, the stupid bets... ect...
who cares. Playing poker online defeats the whole point of playing poker... you know, the booze, the group of buddies, the smoky dim room, the stupid bets... ect...
x2. If you're that hard-up for a computerized card game, you can always break out the solitaire.
EsoognomEhT
10-02-2006, 02:22 PM
You're allowed guns, but you can't gamble p-)
Hawkeye
10-02-2006, 02:22 PM
Ahh but the difference isn't that big. US concubine nonetheless.
It took me only 5 posts to conclude you're a jackass.
GoNavy
10-02-2006, 03:02 PM
Start a poker club with your friends. Good greif...
God you people keep missing the point.
CONVENIENCE.
I can log on and find a game within 5 minutes, with as many as 1,000 people if I want to.
It's ass hard to find 5 people who have a free night to play poker, and then after a few weeks it becomes stale cause you know exactly how those people play.
With some of the Euro bellyaching in this thread I'm glad it was banned, if only to keep that money in the US of A.
For those of you who like pissing your money away, you'll have to do it at the tables. Fascism, I know. :roll:
For all the parents out there, it's one less thing to worry about. Kids can get credit cards, and get themselves into serious debt, and ruin their credit which has lesting effects well into adulthood. Some people aren't able to cope and never get their finances back in order if being in debt and having bad credit is all they've ever known since they were old enough to have their own money and have credit.
**waits to be called crazed ignorant redneck religious zealot Christian fundy by ex_stab, or one of his Euro doppelgangers, even though I live in the heart of the biggest metro area in the nation and can count the number of times I've been in a church, for any reason, on my fingers**
CheekyQuim
10-02-2006, 03:05 PM
I got tired of sifting through all the name calling to see if someone else brought this point up but, it seems like it would be in the interest of these on-line casinos to offer credit cards and/or bank accounts that are outside the jurisdiction of the U.S. congress.
The Republican Party doesn't want you gambling your hard-earned dollars away to foreigners.
Go play the stock market.
If you like gambling online, get your fix at etrade.com (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/www.etrade.com) or ameritrade.com (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/www.ameritrade.com). p-)
Macs.
10-02-2006, 03:27 PM
With some of the Euro bellyaching in this thread I'm glad it was banned, if only to keep that money in the US of A.
For those of you who like pissing your money away, you'll have to do it at the tables. Fascism, I know. :roll:
For all the parents out there, it's one less thing to worry about. Kids can get credit cards, and get themselves into serious debt, and ruin their credit which has lesting effects well into adult hood. Some people aren't able to cope and never get their finance back in order if being in debt and having bad credit is all they've ever known since they were old enough to have their own money.
Which kid had his/her own credit card ? Its the job of the Parents to raise their children, not the goverment. If parents hand out credit cards to children which aren't responsible with money - Uh, well...
You can get into serious debt in a million ways - Are they gonna ban Mobile Phones, Clothes, Computers etc ? Also the health problems: Cigarretes, Alcohol, and don't forget McDonalds & co they are ruining/killing hundreds of thousands if not millions of lives more than Online Gambling.
I just hate this parenting by goverments - If I am a adult I can decide for myself whether I want to gamble online or not.
Gambling online in is still legal in Germany, I believe. Infact, it's still legal here for 2 more weeks, I think.
I got tired of sifting through all the name calling to see if someone else brought this point up but, it seems like it would be in the interest of these on-line casinos to offer credit cards and/or bank accounts that are outside the jurisdiction of the U.S. congress.
Exactly. I think this is the real root of the issue, not federal babysitting.
Thunder
10-02-2006, 03:31 PM
The Republican Party doesn't want you gambling your hard-earned dollars away to foreigners.
Go play the stock market.
What's next? Banning all non-USA made products?
What's next? Banning all non-USA made products?
We can dream. p-)
Miles.
10-02-2006, 03:35 PM
What's next? Banning all non-USA made products?
Already started. Anybody caught dead with Dutch clogs goes straight off to a concentration camp.
Miles.
10-02-2006, 03:35 PM
If you like gambling online, get your fix at etrade.com (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/www.etrade.com) or ameritrade.com (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/www.ameritrade.com). p-)
Exactly...somebody's got their thinking cap on today!!
Miles.
10-02-2006, 03:37 PM
Look everybody. It's real simple.
God told Jesus. Jesus told George W. Bush. George W. Bush told Karl Rove. And the Reichstag Robot Republicans passed the ban.
And Democrats unanimously voted against the ban.
Right?
Thunder
10-02-2006, 03:38 PM
Triple post. Ban this man.
Miles.
10-02-2006, 03:44 PM
Shut it, you.
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