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SeanAshi
04-08-2004, 05:01 AM
Iraqi Kurds dance to a different tune

Unlike Arab compatriots, most Kurds welcome the occupation

It is a place where people look you straight in the eye and, without a hint of irony, call foreign occupation forces "liberators".

Unlike most other parts of Iraq - where people are actively hostile towards, or barely tolerate, the foreign invaders - Kurds do not feel the strains of occupation.

While Shia and Sunni Muslims have been fighting Americans in and around Baghdad in the past few days, Kurds on the streets of Arbil condemn anti-US attacks as "terrorism".

A recent poll by foreign broadcasters that suggested most Iraqis were happier since the US-led invasion a year ago was heavily influenced by Kurdish respondents.

The survey found only one in three Arabs believed their country was liberated - compared to four out of five Kurds.

And if Kurdistan were Iraq writ large, then you might just believe the US had won the battle for Iraqi hearts and minds.

Different state

The road from Baghdad to Kurdistan is littered with so many checkpoints you eventually lose count. After recent bombings in several Kurdish cities that have left scores dead, the Kurds clearly do not want troublemakers on their soil.

An oil-rich region in northern Iraq, Kurdistan has four million people (around 20% of Iraq's population) and has been virtually self-ruled since 1991 under US protection.

Its pro-Western leaders – Jalal Talabani and Masud Barzani – were both instrumental in helping the Americans topple Saddam Hussein last year.

The region itself has a different feel from the rest of Iraq. It is verdant and mountainous, the people speak a different language, dress differently and fly their own national flag. It is a metaphor, perhaps, for the different state of mind you encounter when entering Kurdish territory.

There are no gun-toting foreign soldiers seen elsewhere in Iraq, nor helicopters whizzing overhead.

Occupation's benefits

Dr Sherzad Amin al-Najjar, of Arbil's Salah al-Din University, told Aljazeera.net life in Kurdistan had improved considerably in the past year.

"The threat of Saddam invading Kurdish areas has been hanging over our heads for years," he said. "Like the Shia in the south, we have suffered greatly at his hands but we are now free from the fear of Saddam and we still have our self-rule government."

Al-Najjar said ordinary Kurds had particularly noticed the economic benefits of occupied Iraq.

"People's standards of living have gone up in the last year. The Coalition Provisional Authority has put a lot of money into this area as have UN agencies. There has especially been a lot of construction of roads, schools and water facilities.

"As a result of this political stability, there have been many social and psychological benefits. The only negative thing is there is more terrorism here now, which didn't exist before."

And al-Najjar is quick to thank the Americans for these changes. "The Americans have played a big part in improving our lives. So there isn't the hostility towards the US soldiers here that there is in other parts of Iraq.

"People in Kurdistan welcomed the American action last year and they are happy for the Americans to stay for a while until the country is secure. Personally, I think the Americans will stay for a long time."

Atleast some appreciate us

seruriermarshal
04-08-2004, 05:06 AM
Great news .

woot woot woot woot woot

Soulhunter
04-08-2004, 05:14 AM
well, that's hardly NEW news. The Kurds have had their autonomy for over 10 years now because of the US and the no-fly zones. Of course they like the occupation, but it'll be interesting to what happens when the occupations ends respectively when there are elections. The Arab-Kurdish problem isn't yet solved!! There's potential for civil war between them, much more then between Sunnis and Shiites.

Truthsayer
04-08-2004, 10:28 AM
Kurds and Turkey.

In Turkey the Kurds and especially PKK, is labeled as an 'terrorist organisation'.

Guess it's all open for debate when it comes down to politics.

"The war against terrorism" - bah, sure.

UkrainianAmerican
04-08-2004, 10:39 AM
I say, arm the KURDS to the teeth, before withdrawing troops, to even out the odds.
And I dont mean M16s, more like most of Saddams arrmory.

HELEX
04-08-2004, 10:41 AM
I say, arm the KURDS to the teeth, before withdrawing troops, to even out the odds.

That will cause serious Problems in Turkey because the Kurds will use these weapons against the Army there...

UkrainianAmerican
04-08-2004, 10:43 AM
I say, arm the KURDS to the teeth, before withdrawing troops, to even out the odds.

That will cause serious Problems in Turkey because the Kurds will use these weapons against the Army there...
You mean the country that refused to help us at the LAST minute? As far as I am concerned its not OUR problem.

Haiw
04-08-2004, 10:48 AM
I say, arm the KURDS to the teeth, before withdrawing troops, to even out the odds.

That will cause serious Problems in Turkey because the Kurds will use these weapons against the Army there...
You mean the country that refused to help us at the LAST minute? As far as I am concerned its not OUR problem.
You may not think it's your problem but Turkey is still a NATO member...

UkrainianAmerican
04-08-2004, 10:50 AM
I say, arm the KURDS to the teeth, before withdrawing troops, to even out the odds.

That will cause serious Problems in Turkey because the Kurds will use these weapons against the Army there...
You mean the country that refused to help us at the LAST minute? As far as I am concerned its not OUR problem.
You may not think it's your problem but Turkey is still a NATO member...
a NATO member which hasnt done **** for us, so we dont do **** for them.
Sounds fair.

Mr Gently Benevolent
04-08-2004, 10:51 AM
The Kurds deserve a break they have had a ****y time over the last 20 years at least.

Truthsayer
04-08-2004, 10:52 AM
I say, arm the KURDS to the teeth, before withdrawing troops, to even out the odds.

That will cause serious Problems in Turkey because the Kurds will use these weapons against the Army there...
You mean the country that refused to help us at the LAST minute? As far as I am concerned its not OUR problem.

'Compasssioned Conservative'?

Thanks for supporting your fellow NATo-member and soon-to-be-EU-member. Remember, if more terrorist-attacks ends up within the EU, that means more off your allies, i.e. NATo-members, are most likely the ones getting hit.

Wanna strive for another 9/11, but just don't care if it's not on american ground?

martinexsquaddie
04-08-2004, 12:09 PM
well if the turks had'nt decided to use southern Turkey as a freefire zone as reguards the turks the PKK would'nt have reponded ask a kurd living in turkey if he's a turk or a kurd he'll answer a kurd there's your basic problem kurds want to be kurdish. not turkish, iraqi.,irainian,or syrian I think turkeys influence on george is slightly less than sean pens rofl
wonder why :roll:

Soulhunter
04-08-2004, 12:15 PM
the Kurds had an easy last 10 years compared to the rest of Iraq

UkrainianAmerican
04-08-2004, 12:18 PM
I say, arm the KURDS to the teeth, before withdrawing troops, to even out the odds.

That will cause serious Problems in Turkey because the Kurds will use these weapons against the Army there...
You mean the country that refused to help us at the LAST minute? As far as I am concerned its not OUR problem.

'Compasssioned Conservative'?

No.



Thanks for supporting your fellow NATo-member and soon-to-be-EU-member. Remember, if more terrorist-attacks ends up within the EU, that means more off your allies, i.e. NATo-members, are most likely the ones getting hit.

Wanna strive for another 9/11, but just don't care if it's not on american ground?
The turkey didnt support us, so I dont give a **** if they got a problem with kurds being armed.