View Full Version : Iraqis break American roadblocks to aid Fallujah rebels
Skullknight
04-08-2004, 04:34 PM
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=581560
Iraqi marchers break through US roadblocks in bid to relieve rebel bastion
BAGHDAD (AFP) - Thousands of Iraqi sympathisers, both Sunni and Shiite Muslim, forced their way through US military roadblocks in a bid to bring aid from the capital to the besieged Sunni rebel bastion of Fallujah.
Troops in armoured vehicles attempted to stop the convoy of cars and pedestrians from reaching the western town where US marines have met ferocious resistance in a two-day-old offensive against the insurgents.
But the US contingents were overwhelmed as residents of villages west of the capital came to the convoy's assistance, hurling insults and stones at the beleaguered troops.
Some 20 kilometers (12 miles) west of Baghdad, a US patrol was attacked just moments before the Iraqi marchers arrived, and armed insurgents could be seen dancing around on two blazing military vehicles.
Two US Humvees attempted to stop the marchers but were forced to drive off as residents joined the marchers, shouting "Allahu Akbar" (God is greater).
US troops armed with machine guns and backed up by armour again blocked the highway further west, but were forced to let the Iraqis past as they came under a hail of stones.
The cross-community demonstration of support for Fallujah had been organized by Baghdad clerics both Sunni and Shiite amid reports that the death toll in the town had reached 105 since Tuesday evening.
The rare display of sectarian unity came after Shiite radicals launched an uprising in cities across central and southern Iraq (news - web sites), shattering a year of relative tolerance of the US-led occupation from the country's majority community.
"No Sunnis, no Shiites, yes for Islamic unity," the marchers chanted. "We are Sunni and Shiite brothers and will never sell our country."
The marchers set off from the Um al-Qora mosque in west Baghdad where wellwishers donated food, drinks and medicine.
They carried portaits of Shiite radical leader Moqtada Sadr, as well as pictures of Sunni Islamist icon, Sheikh Ahmad Yassin, the spiritual leader of the Palestinian Hamas movement who was assassinated in an Israeli air raid last month.
"Our families in Fallujah, remember that our dead go to heaven and theirs to hell," read a banner held aloft by the crowd.
Mosque imam Sheikh Ahmad Abdel Ghafur al-Samarrai said the US-led coalition had given the Iraqi Red Crescent permission to organize a relief convoy but made no secret of his hostility to the US offensive in Fallujah.
"The Iraqi Red Crescent got permission from the coalition, following negotiations over one day and one night to bring these supplies into the city," Samarrai said.
"Baghdad residents decided to send initially 90 cars with food and medicines to Fallujah families," he told AFP.
"We want to express solidarity with our brothers who are being bombed by warplanes and tanks.
"It is a form of jihad (holy war) which can also come in the form of demonstrations, donations and fighting. The people who are occupied have the right to fight occupation, whatever the means they use."
The Sunni cleric called on US commanders to stop the bloody offensive they launched in Fallujah on tuesday after four US civilian contractors were killed in the town and two of their bodies mutilated.
"This only brings hatred and enmity," Samarrai said of the US assault.
"They killed the elderly praying at the mosques, as well as women and children. This is indiscriminate killing."
The cleric said he opposed the way the bodies of the American contractors had been treated but insisted that what the US marines were now doing in Fallujah was no better. They "are doing the same by mutilating the residential neighborhoods," he said.
UkrainianAmerican
04-08-2004, 04:41 PM
Shoulda opened up with the 249's
American Patriot
04-08-2004, 04:43 PM
Sounds like bull**** to me.
stuntman
04-08-2004, 04:44 PM
The cleric said he opposed the way the bodies of the American contractors had been treated but insisted that what the US marines were now doing in Fallujah was no better. They "are doing the same by mutilating the residential neighborhoods," he said.
I love the logic of these people!
Thats it I am pressing the red button.
UkrainianAmerican
04-08-2004, 04:45 PM
The cleric said he opposed the way the bodies of the American contractors had been treated but insisted that what the US marines were now doing in Fallujah was no better. They "are doing the same by mutilating the residential neighborhoods," he said.
I love the logic of these people!
Thats it I am pressing the red button.
Yeah, what a C0CK-FACE.
scm77
04-08-2004, 05:18 PM
Shoulda opened up with the 249's
Couldn't agree more.
Truthsayer
04-08-2004, 05:21 PM
Landmines comes to mind...
Obergefreiter
04-08-2004, 05:22 PM
Landmines comes to mind...
Can't do that, it would be uncivilized. :cantbeli:
Dalleer
04-08-2004, 05:23 PM
The main question is, how do you stop these people now?
Truthsayer
04-08-2004, 05:23 PM
Landmines comes to mind...
Can't do that, it would be uncivilized. :cantbeli:
Not if you put up signs and have clearly marked roadblocks.
Apogee
04-08-2004, 05:28 PM
Landmines comes to mind...
Can't do that, it would be uncivilized. :cantbeli:
Gotta love that land mine ban. I know i'll catch flak from Iche but I think they do have a time and place for use.
Truthsayer
04-08-2004, 05:36 PM
Landmines comes to mind...
Can't do that, it would be uncivilized. :cantbeli:
Gotta love that land mine ban. I know i'll catch flak from Iche but I think they do have a time and place for use.
The US is one of the few western states that haven't signed any landmine-ban (yet).
Whistler
04-08-2004, 05:39 PM
Unfortnately it wasn't the western nations that were really ever a problem with landmines to begin with...
Now, if you could get 3rd world countries like Rwanda, Somalia, Afghanistan, Cambodia, etc to sign the treaty THEN we might get somewhere rofl . THEY are the ones that are throwing them all over the place :cantbeli: .
Mark_Aspen
04-08-2004, 05:40 PM
Time to dust off the B-1s and BUFFs. Maybe get an armoured bull-dozer or two; the Rachel Corrie Brigade.
UkrainianAmerican
04-08-2004, 05:49 PM
Time to dust off the B-1s and BUFFs. Maybe get an armoured bull-dozer or two; the Rachel Corrie Brigade.
rofl
Nice pancake btw, rofl
SeanAshi
04-08-2004, 06:23 PM
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=581560
Wheres the A-10 when you need one...
The Shias are missing their daughters getting raped by Saddam's thugs and their cities destroyed by his helicopters and artillery. The Sunnis must be keen for some action too, they haven't had the chance to kick Shias and Kurds around for several months now. The Imperialist Occupiers have tried to preach devilish thoughts of self-reliance and responsibility but Allah and his messengers know that Arabs need brutal despots and blind fanaticism to thrive.
Why not free Saddam and let him and the Sunnis deal with the Shiite uprising? Wouldn't that satisfy both the Shiite appetite for martyrdom and the Sunni urge for controlling Iraq again?
mocking_loudly_died
04-08-2004, 06:38 PM
Shoulda opened up with the 249's
Amen.
The funny thing is if the Americans and friends pull out all the religous sects will start kicking the **** out of each other.
Dumb f*cks.
Mark Sman
04-08-2004, 06:41 PM
BS if they wanted this convoy stopped it would be stopped.
1. Stop sticks, or portable tire ripper
2. Bullets through tires.
3. Drag driver out of lead vehicle, WP on engine block. Repeat until sizeable roadblock achieved.
http://customwire.ap.org/photos/BAG11804081620-big.jpg
Iraqis taking part in a convoy of food and medical supplies to be delivered to Fallujah, Iraq, negociate safe passage with U.S. troops at the entrance of the town Thursday April 8 2004. (AP Photo/Muhammed Muheisen)
Mark Sman
04-08-2004, 06:49 PM
Oops that image didn't show, try this.
http://media.tbo.com/photos/trib/2004/mar/h1.jpg
U.S. soldiers keep watch on Sunni and Shiite Iraqis taking part in a convoy of food and medical supplies to be delivered to Fallujah, Iraq, at the entrance of the town Thursday April 8, 2004. (AP Photo/Muhammed Muheisen)
http://media.tbo.com/photos/trib/2004/mar/h2.jpg
I raqis taking part in a convoy of food and medical supplies to be delivered to Fallujah, Iraq, negociate safe passage with U.S. troops at the entrance of the town Thursday April 8 2004. (AP Photo/Muhammed Muheisen)
http://media.tbo.com/photos/trib/2004/mar/h3.jpg
Sunni and Shiite Iraqis, part of a convoy of food and medical supplies to be delivered to Fallujah, wave near Abu Ghraib, a western suburb of Baghdad, Iraq, Thursday April 8, 2004. (AP Photo/Muhammed Muheisen)
SeanAshi
04-08-2004, 06:57 PM
http://y-images-west.google.com/images?q=tbn:R_ryAwAj6eIJ:www.geocities.jp/fleischman6/yokota/a10a14_s.jpg
This would have stopped them.
BlackRain
04-08-2004, 07:16 PM
My choice would be CBU-87/B Combined Effects Munitions (CEM) or
CBU-72 Fuel/Air Explosive against such a soft target.
seruriermarshal
04-08-2004, 07:18 PM
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=581560
Wheres the A-10 when you need one...
You are right .
http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/a-10-0000000b.jpg
SEALInTheMaking
04-08-2004, 07:20 PM
This is getting out of hand. The Iraqis cannot be allowed to disrespect the soldiers without consequence. The "Friendly Neiborhood Occupation Force" tact has got to come to an end, now. The only way that these attacks are going to end is if we crack down, very very hard. I hate to say it, and I dont necessarily think its right; but to get this situation over there under control, the military needs to take a few pages out of the Nazi Book of Occupation. (Dont take that out of context, you all know what I mean)
SeanAshi
04-08-2004, 07:21 PM
Yes but our critics would call it overkill.
Maj12
04-08-2004, 07:25 PM
Time to dust off the B-1s and BUFFs. Maybe get an armoured bull-dozer or two; the Rachel Corrie Brigade.
roflmao...the Rachel Corrie Brigade.
:lol:
scm77
04-08-2004, 07:26 PM
If it's going to be called "overkill" anyways we might as well use one of these bad mo' fo's
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/images/0303/834416c5b69200ed9027.jpeg
woot
SEALInTheMaking
04-08-2004, 07:28 PM
Our critics arnt getting shot at. Put them in Falluja for a couple days, then ask if they still think its overkill.
HELEX
04-08-2004, 07:28 PM
They were allowed to do that, it is an action of the islamic counterpart of the red cross to help the civilians in the surrounded citys with permission of the authoritys.
So you guys are talking about killing an civillian aid convoy, you are even worse than those Bastards who mutilated these Bodys.... disgusting... :cantbeli:
You are talking like a breed of Nazis. http://www.smiliemania.de/smilie.php?smile_ID=27
SEALInTheMaking
04-08-2004, 07:31 PM
How come the aid convoy was throwing rocks at American soldiers?
scm77
04-08-2004, 07:32 PM
I'm sure all of that aid will be going to civillians....civillians with RPG's.
seruriermarshal
04-08-2004, 07:33 PM
Our critics arnt getting shot at. Put them in Falluja for a couple days, then ask if they still think its overkill.
Yes , these media helping enemies .
MaDuce
04-08-2004, 07:33 PM
Just use a heavy duty road spikes ans cuase a gigantic traffic jam. then tell them to all F*ck off and go home.
SeanAshi
04-08-2004, 07:36 PM
So you guys are talking about killing an civillian aid convoyThat civillian convoy on its way to kill Americans, Poles etc. etc.
SEALInTheMaking
04-08-2004, 07:38 PM
If the convoy is full of aid material, and had permission from the "authorities," why were the US soldiers in the area not informed. Why arnt US soldiers allowed to inspect the cargo? Why is the convoy acting hostile toward the troops? Sounds like a weapons shipment, not an aid convoy.
Macs.
04-08-2004, 07:39 PM
So you guys are talking about killing an civillian aid convoy, you are even worse than those Bastards who mutilated these Bodys.... disgusting... :cantbeli:
You are an idiot.
Damn, now I did feed the troll...
seruriermarshal
04-08-2004, 07:40 PM
So you guys are talking about killing an civillian aid convoyThat civillian convoy on its way to kill Americans, Poles etc. etc.
In Falluja those civillian attack and kill every Americans , Now other "civillian" say :" we must help Falluja ." They are civillian ? No ! They are enemy .
talib_killa34
04-08-2004, 07:43 PM
Makes you just want to friggin put S. Hussein back in power and get the hell out of the #@#!$!% place!
You can't do anything for trying there anymore!!!!!!!!!
Sorry....ass....country.....
Webley
04-08-2004, 07:43 PM
The main question is, how do you stop these people now?
Notice that the civilian vehicles have rubber tires. Use jacks on the roads to shred the tires. Block pedestran traffic with riot police and dogs.
SEALInTheMaking
04-08-2004, 07:45 PM
Somehow I dont see riot police lasting to long in Fallujah
talib_killa34
04-08-2004, 07:45 PM
The main question is, how do you stop these people now?
Notice that the civilian vehicles have rubber tires. Use jacks on the roads to shred the tires. Block pedestran traffic with riot police and dogs.
Yeah, somone, somewhere missed a step. :cantbeli:
Webley
04-08-2004, 08:12 PM
Somehow I dont see riot police lasting to long in Fallujah
You can't shoot the "unarmed non-combatants" while they make a pretense of being unarmed non-combatants. So use riot police tactics to stop them until they break out their guns, then you can use the machineguns on them.
talib_killa34
04-08-2004, 08:15 PM
Somehow I dont see riot police lasting to long in Fallujah
You can't shoot the "unarmed non-combatants" while they make a pretense of being unarmed non-combatants. So use riot police tactics to stop them until they break out their guns, then you can use the machineguns on them.
What I can't believe is how bad they got punked! They just allowed a hostile force, inside of a "surrounded" city, access to resupply.....AND
reinforcements!
:cantbeli: GAwd....
SEALInTheMaking
04-08-2004, 08:18 PM
And when they do break out the AKs and RPGs, the riot police are all going to die.
Laworkerbee
04-08-2004, 08:35 PM
Im having a tough time understanding why this convoy was allowed through, and why if it was under the "Red Cresent" was openly hostile, which is something I believe the Red Cross would not tolerate.
Why not just disable the trucks with .50cal or small arms?, anyone leaving the convoy showing hostile intent ( brandishing weapons and so forth )could be fired upon.
Is this a peace keeping operation, or an occupation here?, why is there no fear of action from American troops here.
WTF! is going on
scm77
04-08-2004, 08:57 PM
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=581560
Aren't vehicles from the Red Cross or Red Cressent supposed to be clearly marked witht the Red Cross or Red Cressent in order to avoid incidents?
MK133
04-08-2004, 09:06 PM
They should give US civilians a few C5's some gear and ship our asses over there to kick it. Or, ship those bastards over here!
Seriously, why the hell has'nt Delta grabbed the Cleric fool yet? Why have we only killed a few hundred of those turds?
talib_killa34
04-08-2004, 09:11 PM
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=581560
Aren't vehicles from the Red Cross or Red Cressent supposed to be clearly marked witht the Red Cross or Red Cressent in order to avoid incidents?
Nah, just stick the woman and child in front, it works better... :|
Truthsayer
04-08-2004, 09:22 PM
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=581560
Aren't vehicles from the Red Cross or Red Cressent supposed to be clearly marked witht the Red Cross or Red Cressent in order to avoid incidents?
You are correct.
I don't think it was any official shipment from the Red Cross at all.
SeanAshi
04-08-2004, 09:24 PM
Bring in big fire trucks and water cannons...but don't use water use sewage water
http://a1112.g.akamai.net/7/1112/492/03312000/news.lycos.com/news/ot_getImage.asp?op=img&id=581560
Wheres the A-10 when you need one...
firing on allies
Ichhabe
04-09-2004, 03:45 AM
Landmines comes to mind...
Can't do that, it would be uncivilized. :cantbeli:
Gotta love that land mine ban. I know i'll catch flak from Iche but I think they do have a time and place for use.
Where have I ever stated that I am for the banning of AP-mines? :D
Korth
04-09-2004, 03:51 AM
Let them into Fallujah, but don't let them out. Then bring in the heavy artillary and bombard them.
seruriermarshal
04-09-2004, 03:57 AM
Let them into Fallujah, but don't let them out. Then bring in the heavy artillary and bombard them.
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/bomber/b52-bomb.jpg
woot woot woot woot woot
Kingpin
04-09-2004, 04:13 AM
I see you're beginning to hate them. Bad sign.
Groove
04-09-2004, 04:57 AM
They forgot what uncle Saddam did with their last uprising.
They should level one of the uprising cities as this seems to be the only way of dealing with this animals.
And US should consider to "change" the government in Iran - that would solve some problems down there i think.
Sergei
04-09-2004, 05:29 AM
They were allowed to do that, it is an action of the islamic counterpart of the red cross to help the civilians in the surrounded citys with permission of the authoritys.
So you guys are talking about killing an civillian aid convoy, you are even worse than those Bastards who mutilated these Bodys.... disgusting... :cantbeli:
You are talking like a breed of Nazis. http://www.smiliemania.de/smilie.php?smile_ID=27
They are just immature jerks who have to grow up.
P.S. I like hilarious comments about A-10 and other stuff. I hope you people will never be on the receiving end of the gun.
Soulhunter
04-09-2004, 05:43 AM
some postings here indeed as funny, in a sick kind of way. let's hope they'll really be in a situation to pull the trigger.
martinexsquaddie
04-09-2004, 09:49 AM
as far as I know the real picture is the convoy was cleared to go through to the city it did'nt force its way in.
whose going to force there way past Us forces anyway a hostile road convoy against a cobra no chance.
just some arsehole arabs trying to make like they won a victory afterwards :roll:
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