Polish Air Force thread

[corran.pl]

Hmmmm... F-16C with CFT!?

I thought only ours D's will get it.

You thought wrong, CFT were bought for all 48 planes, this fact is known from 2003.

[corran.pl]

More:

http://images31.fotosik.pl/212/ebf1379619f9ed20.jpg

http://images24.fotosik.pl/193/4f437e79f72fa106.jpg

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http://images26.fotosik.pl/193/92054e4d4c99b743.jpg

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source: http://forum.31blot.mil.pl/viewtopic.php?p=49930&sid=1875f8ebd6ada2efe9da2a5eebd79fee#49930

[marlowe]

MiG-29's from PKW Orlik 2 (Air Policing mission) in Siauliai (Lithuania):

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Photos:http://www.airpolicing.wp.mil.pl/

[corran.pl]

http://www.lotnictwo.net/pic/0804/0804070011.jpg
http://www.lotnictwo.net/pic/0804/0804070013.jpg

[Rumcajs]

interesting sentence about L159 selling in this article (http://www.letectvi.cz/letectvi/Article65477.html) from 22. 4. 2008: „Poměrně daleko jsou jednání například v Indonésii, situace se pozitivně vyvíjí i v Polsku," uvedlo již dříve ministerstvo ( "... situation is getting positive in Poland," ministry of defence has said)

[corran.pl]

I wouldn't count on that.

[daily666]

I wouldn't count on that.

Why not? I've heard it's quite possible.

[marlowe]

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http://www.airpolicing.wp.mil.pl/pl/index.html

[corran.pl]

Pictures from:
http://poland.usembassy.gov/embassy-events/embassy-events-2008/polish-c-130es-featured-in-magazine--6-may-2008.html


Polish Aerial Photographer Mariusz Adamski visited Waco, Texas where 5 C130Es are being prepared for the Polish Air Force and took photos of the aircraft for Skrzydlata Polska (Wings of Poland) magazine. The aircraft are being provided by the U.S. Government to fulfill a promise by President Bush to provide a heavy airlift capability to Poland. The first C-130E will arrive in Poland this fall. Adamski’s article can be found in this month’s Skrzydlata Polska (Wings of Poland) magazine. A pdf copy of the story is provided here. The U.S. Embassy in Warsaw's Office of Defense Cooperation helped arrange the visit to the L-3 plant.

http://poland.usembassy.gov/uploads/Pu/6z/Pu6zsrbwZspW9HabKbSwtQ/Odmladzanie-Herculesow1.jpg
http://poland.usembassy.gov/uploads/sZ/Lz/sZLzKclk0DPcGFO98tKFlA/Odmladzanie-Herculesow2.jpg

[marlowe]

Yesterday 4 new F-16's arrived to Poland, so now we have 41 of them:

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http://mon.gov.pl/pl/index/

[zapatero]

Nice pics. Does anyone know when the armament for those birds is gonna be delivered?

[corran.pl]

What arment? AFAIK some numbers of AIM-120 and AIM-9 are already there.

[zapatero]

What arment? AFAIK some numbers of AIM-120 and AIM-9 are already there.

I've ment mostly JDAM's and GBU's. Didn't knew that Poland already received some AMRAAMS and Sparrows. Any info on the number and delivery dates?

[corran.pl]

We have no Sparrows (AIM-7) - AIM-9 is called Sidewinder.

F-16 were spoted with CATM-120 and training bombs, the first live weapons were also delivered.

[corran.pl]

Yesterday we had first flights of our F-16 with Sniper XR targeting pod.

[shadowsrider]

JSOW, JDAM, Mavericks, AMRAAM, Sidewinders X, cluster bombs, classical bombs

[Sweet]

I have a question...

I have never saw polish F-16 pfoto whitout Additional Fuel Tanks. If Polish f16 always are flying with that? And Why? :)

[wholagun]

I have a question...

I have never saw polish F-16 pfoto whitout Additional Fuel Tanks. If Polish f16 always are flying with that? And Why? :)


go back a few pages in this thread, I randomly clicked on page 9 and found pictures of the first F16 arriving in Poland go from there onwards andyou'll find pic of Polish F16 without CFTs.

[corran.pl]

Becouse our pilots are training long range strike missions on Moscow :P

http://www.f-16.net/modules/Gallery2/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=219805&g2_serialNumber=2

[edi213009]

and what about the loudest jets u've got in Poland?where are the Fitter's pics?p-)

[corran.pl]

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1982334&postcount=14

New link to my list of Polish Air Force aircrafts:
http://www.militarypedia.corran.pl/wiki/Lista

[edi213009]

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1982334&postcount=14

New link to my list of Polish Air Force aircrafts:
http://www.militarypedia.corran.pl/wiki/Lista



Great pics thnx Corran.Its a powerful bird and looks kinda freaky.
One question.Did they ever think to deploy them in Astan for Cas?they would be great am i right and i've read they received a lot of upgrades

[wholagun]

Great pics thnx Corran.Its a powerful bird and looks kinda freaky.
One question.Did they ever think to deploy them in Astan for Cas?they would be great am i right and i've read they received a lot of upgrades

planes are not yet operational. The pilots have not fully completed their training.

I read somewhere or someone told me can't remember so do't quote m on this, the planes should be operational 2010 or 2011.

[wholagun]

JSOW, JDAM, Mavericks, AMRAAM, Sidewinders X, cluster bombs, classical bombs


are the cluster munitions Polish or American? I know Poland is a handful of countries that have not signed onto the Ottawa Treaty

[edi213009]

planes are not yet operational. The pilots have not fully completed their training.

I read somewhere or someone told me can't remember so do't quote m on this, the planes should be operational 2010 or 2011.


care to elaborate?seems they have them since 1986?!i've seen pics of them in uk,in a joint training with a Tornado squadron.and they have a great number of Su so what's the reason they are not operational?

[wholagun]

care to elaborate?seems they have them since 1986?!i've seen pics of them in uk,in a joint training with a Tornado squadron.and they have a great number of Su so what's the reason they are not operational?

Polish F16s are brand new, they've only been arriving in Poland for a year and half to two years now. Are we talking about the same planes?

1986 Poland was still in the Warsaw Pact - there is not way you saw Polish planes on exercise in the UK

[daily666]

Polish F16s are brand new, they've only been arriving in Poland for a year and half to two years now. Are we talking about the same planes?

He was talking about the Su-22 Fitters not the F-16s.

[corran.pl]

Su-22 have only minimal upgrades - NATO compatible radios, GPS, VOR/ILS, TACAN - not on all planes but at this moment most of the planes in service should have them. 5 planes were upgraded to carry reconesance pods.

There was demonstrator of advanced upgrade (somthing like romanian Mig-21 Lancer - Lightening targeting pod, western guided weapons etc.) shown few years ago on MSPO (2004 or somthing). Some Su-22 were upgraded in WZL-2 very much like this for some export customer.

http://wzl2.mil.pl/?cid=27&unroll=17

Factory Su-17M4/Su-22M4 can carry TV guided misles, and whit a special pod it carry anit-radar rockets.

[edi213009]

Su-22 have only minimal upgrades - NATO compatible radios, GPS, VOR/ILS, TACAN - not on all planes but at this moment most of the planes in service should have them. 5 planes were upgraded to carry reconesance pods.

There was demonstrator of advanced upgrade (somthing like romanian Mig-21 Lancer - Lightening targeting pod, western guided weapons etc.) shown few years ago on MSPO (2004 or somthing). Some Su-22 were upgraded in WZL-2 very much like this for some export customer.

http://wzl2.mil.pl/?cid=27&unroll=17

Factory Su-17M4/Su-22M4 can carry TV guided misles, and whit a special pod it carry anit-radar rockets.


i still fail to see why Sukhois aint ready for that theater?i dont think soviest Su were more modern than the polish ones today.

[corran.pl]

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5982/samolotjf4.jpg

[wholagun]

^^^^ is this the photo from the emergency landing that happened some time ago or is this new?

[marlowe]

F-16 with Sniper XR targeting pod:
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7417/zdjecie161717944ek2.jpg

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/8637/zdjecie161717960sm9.jpg

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Photos: http://mon.gov.pl/pl/index/

[marlowe]

More pics from "Zlot 2008"

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4381/0805270010nd7.jpg

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http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8550/0805270009xu0.th.jpg (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0805270009xu0.jpg) http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5425/0805270011hc1.th.jpg (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0805270011hc1.jpg)

Photos: http://lotnictwo.net/

[Hrvoje]

F-16 looks great! Thank's for pics.

[corran.pl]

http://poland.usembassy.gov/uploads/zt/6T/zt6TgPHE-KnAK8EnXra9MA/Produkcja-Viperow_Pages_200.jpg

[corran.pl]

http://www.gabnet.internetdsl.pl/admin/F-16.jpg

Dutch F-16 in Polish MiG-21 crosshairs :)

http://www.gabnet.internetdsl.pl/admin/f-16w%20zegrzu.jpg

Zegrze Pomorskie, probably mid 90s

[jocker_89]

corran.pl, You don't even know how I like such photos.
thank you :)

[marlowe]

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll206/marlowe_album/f16/zdjecie_1663_18434.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll206/marlowe_album/f16/zdjecie_1663_18435.jpg

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http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll206/marlowe_album/f16/zdjecie_1663_18441.jpg

http://mon.gov.pl/pl/index/

[corran.pl]

SW-4 sold to South Korea
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0805/0805020001.jpg
Seul Gimpo, Korea (GMP/RKSS) - 2008-01-30

[Switek]

One of the most beautiful shot of or F16...

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/43/awesomepolishf16sy8.jpg

[corran.pl]

some nice Su-22 pictures:

http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0609/0609210006.jpg
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0609/0609210004.jpg
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0805/0805270002.jpg
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0805/0805200006.jpg
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0801/0801040002.jpg
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0801/0801040001.jpg
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0710/0710210023.jpg
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0710/0710210012.jpg
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0710/0710210001.jpg
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0706/0706030013.jpg
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0704/0704130021.jpg
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0608/0608180011.jpg
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0608/0608180005.jpg
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0508/0508300011.jpg
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0508/0508260046.jpg

[Noodverbandje]

Some pictures i made at the Dutch airforce open day's 2008

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn68/BucketdeErik/Open%20dag%20KLU%202008/OpendagKLU2008412.jpg

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn68/BucketdeErik/Open%20dag%20KLU%202008/OpendagKLU2008419.jpg

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn68/BucketdeErik/Open%20dag%20KLU%202008/OpendagKLU2008378.jpg

[marlowe]

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http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll206/marlowe_album/mig29/789.jpg

http://www.airpolicing.wp.mil.pl/pl/index.html

[corran.pl]

Photos made in 1966 - on parade of 1000 years of Poland.

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/9856/foto4rc8.jpg
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/7697/foto3cb4.jpg
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/1640/foto2ko7.jpg
http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/9933/fotoio4.jpg

[jocker_89]

Fantastic photos corran

[corran.pl]

Phtotos made by B.Kostrzewski from book '' Kronika lotnictwa polskiego 1945- 1981'' by J. R.Konieczny. I found them here:
http://lotnictwo.net.pl/viewtopic.php?p=258756&sid=c379cae11982e8e65db24416c246c4cc#258756

[corran.pl]

http://images31.fotosik.pl/20/6cf96338125d0ab7med.jpg

[corran.pl]

Poland seeks to acquire T-50 in swap with SW-4 choppers
WARSAW (http://www.silobreaker.com/View360.aspx?Item=11_122260)/SEOUL (http://www.silobreaker.com/View360.aspx?Item=11_304587) -- Poland (http://www.silobreaker.com/View360.aspx?Item=11_81055) seeks to acquire Korea's T-50 supersonic trainer jets in a swap with its SW-4 helicopters, a Polish government official told The Korea Herald.
Polish Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of the Economy (http://www.silobreaker.com/View360.aspx?Item=11_308828) Waldemar Pawlak (http://www.silobreaker.com/View360.aspx?Item=11_173028) will officially propose the deal next week in a meeting with Korea's Knowledge Economy (http://www.silobreaker.com/View360.aspx?Item=11_308828) Minister Lee Youn-ho, the official said on condition of anonymity. Pawlak will visit Seoul (http://www.silobreaker.com/View360.aspx?Item=11_304587) on June 17-20 to attend the OECD (http://www.silobreaker.com/View360.aspx?Item=11_3677822) Ministerial Meeting. 'The Polish government...
http://www.silobreaker.com/DocumentReader.aspx?Item=5_867563278

[marlowe]

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http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/821/1373173vc4.jpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/702/1373838io3.jpg

[marlowe]

Training before military parade, which will take place on 15th of August:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3800/zdjecie179919797sr4.jpg

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/7453/zdjecie179919798lv0.jpg

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http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/5337/zdjecie179919807xc6.jpg

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3820/zdjecie179919808cp2.jpg

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8965/zdjecie179919809mr4.jpg

Photos: MON (http://mon.gov.pl/pl/index/)

[minimus]

those old soviet ground attack planes, Su something, are they worth anything? They look mig21 era. Just scrap metal? Any plans for replacement?

[wholagun]

those old soviet ground attack planes, Su something, are they worth anything? They look mig21 era. Just scrap metal? Any plans for replacement?

If I recall correctly I saw a date somewhere in this thread of 2012-2015 but i could be mistaken.

[perdurabo]

those old soviet ground attack planes, Su something, are they worth anything? They look mig21 era. Just scrap metal? Any plans for replacement?
Su22M4 and Su22UM3K not worth mutch bought in 80ties, 3 squadrons still use them (48planes) out of almoust 100 bought, airforce would like to replace them but money are question here.

[marlowe]

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3114/19380ol2.jpg

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/7071/16527if8.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8040/17958es8.jpg

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http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/4019/10219gv5.jpg

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/6894/10879ox9.jpg
(These helicopters are in fact from Land Forces and not from Air Forces)

[minimus]

LOL, wind farm at the end of the runway??
Just for extra practice for the pilots, I guess.

BTW. nice pics

[daily666]

Fantastic stuff marlowe!

[jocker_89]

Splendid pictures marlowe woot

[edi213009]

those old soviet ground attack planes, Su something, are they worth anything? They look mig21 era. Just scrap metal? Any plans for replacement?


they would do a great job in Astan if somebody's willing to deploy them

[daily666]

they would do a great job in Astan if somebody's willing to deploy them

Certainly they would do a much better job there. There are plans to replace them with MLU's F-16s.

[marlowe]

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/738/photo25448ap7.jpg

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[Ulytau]

Great pics!! xD

[jocker_89]

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Poland, 15.08.2008: From Monday(11.08) to Friday(15.08) on Air Force Base in Mińsk Mazowiecki took a place grouping of planes from all formations of Polish Air force. More pictures CLICK HERE

[marlowe]

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[marlowe]

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[corran.pl]

Su22M4 and Su22UM3K not worth mutch bought in 80ties, 3 squadrons still use them (48planes) out of almoust 100 bought, airforce would like to replace them but money are question here.

More then 100.

http://militarypedia.corran.pl/wiki/Suchoj_Su-17_w_Wojsku_Polskim

27 Su-20
20 Su-22UM3K
90 Su-22M4

39 M4 and 9 UM3K sill in service

Su-22 can carry wide range of A2G weapons including guided ones.

http://www.hunterteam.com/images/hha/aircraft/cutaways/SU22%20Cutaway%20500wl.jpg

http://www.hunterteam.com/sukoi-22-M4_tech_specs.htm

[Redspider]

http://www.patricksaviation.com/uploads/photos/26688.jpg

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http://www.patricksaviation.com/uploads/photos/26686.jpg

http://www.patricksaviation.com/uploads/photos/26685.jpg

http://www.patricksaviation.com/uploads/photos/26684.jpg


http://www.patricksaviation.com/uploads/photos/25315.jpg

[marlowe]

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[mercon]

Some pics I downloaded off my commander's computer during my time in the Polish Navy.

Since this my second post and first containing a photo I'll start with just one to check if I did it right...

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/2002/pict1501pq7.jpg

[mercon]

Ok. A few more:

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8443/pict1506fh1.jpghttp://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1633/pict1508by7.jpghttp://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1719/pict1519dg1.jpghttp://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8219/pict1534he8.jpghttp://img258.imageshack.us/img258/3482/pict1535ou7.jpghttp://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3967/pict1536id5.jpghttp://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3465/pict1554yk6.jpghttp://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6732/pict1596pe0.jpghttp://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5786/pict1599ky7.jpghttp://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1533/pict1543if9.jpghttp://img261.imageshack.us/img261/7973/pict1612rz5.jpghttp://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9382/pict1616zg6.jpghttp://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2234/pict1618qq2.jpg

[Adax]

Excellent pics, mercon. Thank you.

[marlowe]

Some pictures from the Air Show in Minsk Mazowiecki:

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/9835/72535qf8.jpg

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5503/23176nq2.jpg

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1601/72434ju6.jpg

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http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/2276/72515th8.jpg

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2196/72522pr8.jpg

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[marlowe]

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[tomdar]

[/URL]Pictures from Military Picnic in Miroslawiec

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[marlowe]

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[Rumcajs]

some more info about F-16D problems at 28.7. 2008 10.00 A.M. at Okecie airport? Serious conflagration on the board, so still Polish F-16 problems, it looks like that F-16s given to Polish Air Force are serious craps... Jesus

[Switek]

some more info about F-16D problems at 28.7. 2008 10.00 A.M. at Okecie airport? Serious conflagration on the board, so still Polish F-16 problems, it looks like that F-16s given to Polish Air Force are serious craps... Jesus


BS! The number of problems is generally the same like in other countries using or implementing F16s. And significantly less than the last time when Poland was implementing MIG 29s.

Do not believe in all crap given by media. ;)

[Rumcajs]

BS! The number of problems is generally the same like in other countries using or implementing F16s. And significantly less than the last time when Poland was implementing MIG 29s.

Do not believe in all crap given by media. ;)


ok, thanx for warning :-))

[lightfire]

Nice, armed Sokols looks a bit like Kiowas.

I've got a question though to the polish member.

Do you guys have any innitiative or plans to rebuild interwar period aircrafts? PZLs, like PZL P.7/11/23/24/37/50? Just like Spitfires or Lancs, they'd be a great asset in the airshows, smth of a great touch with history, since you already have cavalry riding in parades.

We have a small innitiative, rather a dream yet, to rebuild ANBO aircrafts - a proud moment of history in aircraft making.

[michalgajzler]

Polish Aviation Museum wants to rebuild pre-war basic trainer RWD-8.
It would it be rather difficult to rebuild such airplanes like P.37 or P.50 while there are no blueprints etc. Lack of money would be a problem too.
When we are talking about restoring/rebuilding planes it is worth to say that Polish Eagles Foundation is currently working to restore to flying condition SB Lim-2.

[marlowe]

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More pictures of PZL W-3 Gluszec
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/1697/72759oy0.jpg

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3277/72761ck3.jpg

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/9276/72760to3.jpg

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And a movie from Krzesiny air base:
http://pl.youtube.com/v/iGEqJ-4-4y0

And some news: yesterday 4 new F-16's landed at Krzesiny air base. Now we have 45 of them:
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/2488/zdjecie186921228wb3.jpg

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http://mon.gov.pl/pl/index/

[~~~~]

I 've just seen a camo painted EH101 flying over my house in Warsaw. Anyone know what's going on?

[Military-G]

Rocco Sifredi is invading Poland again.

Great pix thanks

[marlowe]

I 've just seen a camo painted EH101 flying over my house in Warsaw. Anyone know what's going on?

Are you sure it was EH101 and not S-92? S-92 was shown on MSPO 2008. S-92 in Warsaw:http://lotnictwo.net/foto.php?id=140130

[~~~~]

Are you sure it was EH101 and not S-92? S-92 was shown on MSPO 2008. S-92 in Warsaw:http://lotnictwo.net/foto.php?id=140130

judging form the pictures, it might also have been an S-92...
it has had olive and grey camo scheme on the bottom

[Ronguild]

judging form the pictures, it might also have been an S-92...
it has had olive and grey camo scheme on the bottom

Like this ?


http://www.areamilitar.net/opiniao/images/FAP_EH_101.jpg

[marlowe]

Polish Air Force F-16 takes off...
http://pl.youtube.com/v/hkHIGiGMouA

White-Red Sparks Bialo-Czerwone Iskry low pass
http://pl.youtube.com/v/qEJibcs3QiU

[daily666]

Polish Air Force F-16 takes off...



Well...and it didn't break down at all... p-)

[signatory]

C-295 ERIEYE marketed towards Poland.

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/530/getasset18f77d7fjj6.jpg

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2008/09/15/315879/picture-saab-unveils-c-295-erieye-concept.html

[marlowe]

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[corran.pl]

C-295 ERIEYE marketed towards Poland.

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/530/getasset18f77d7fjj6.jpg

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2008/09/15/315879/picture-saab-unveils-c-295-erieye-concept.html

I saw a scale model like this on MSPO. Lockheed Martin was promotin the T-50 Golden Eagle.

[marlowe]

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[General Pacepa]

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What is that thing on the plane?the parts that are on the sides?

[marlowe]

Conformal fuel tanks.

[jocker_89]

Some pictures are just incredible!

Thanks Marlowe :)

[marlowe]

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[marlowe]

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New CASA C-295M for Polish Air Force (seen in Spain on October 14th):
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4061/1412830fg8.jpg

[marlowe]

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[Mateusz]

Great photos, I have always wished to fly in MiG-29 :)

[ayanami_tard]

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8193/835861224059125fi5.jpg

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9916/893911224059385td7.jpg
i couldn't help but imaging those falcon are smiling at me:)


btw,any news on T-50<->SW-4 barter trade?

[marlowe]

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[bcax]

great videoclip of Mi-14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTHjdOtXBW4

[marlowe]

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[corran.pl]

Some news:

- Almost all of An-26 were retired and the last flying An-26 will be out in January 2009.

- The arrival of first C-130 was delayed once again - from 21st November to 18th December - personally i hope it will be delayed till late spring - the weather will be better so we will have better photos.

- I have confirmed info that Dęblin pilot school should have 11 SW-4 helicopters, Land Forces are still not interested in this design - preferring two engined aircrafts.

- Further orders on M28 Bryza, small STOL plane, are planed. New Aircrafts will have full glass cockpit avionics, defense systems and are planed to be used locally to support Polish Military Contingents like the ones in Afghanistan and Chad.

- F-16 delivered almost over - last 3 F-16C should arrive in December 2008.

- It is still unsure but there are some serious plans of upgrading MiG-29 fighters, because whole project is still unsure there are no detailed informations how deep the modernization will be - if it will be a minimum upgrade to SD standard (like on Slovak MiGs) or full option upgrade to multi role SMT standard (with new Zhuk radar, glass cockpit, air refuelling probe, Link-16 datalink compatible with the one on polish F-16s). Only planes from 1st TFS are planed for upgrade (those airframes are in much better shape then mostly ex-German planes used in Malbork) planes from 41st TFS will stay in current standard and are planed to be retired around 2015.

[perdurabo]

are there any plans for new planes? (Iskra, Su22, Mi8 family, Mi2, Mi24, Yak40 and Tu need replacing...)

[bcax]

are there any plans for new planes? (Iskra, Su22, Mi8 family, Mi2, Mi24, Yak40 and Tu need replacing...)

yeah.
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/9710/lttqb5.jpg

[tony6]

You forgot to mention W-3 helicopters being replaced by Blackhawks in the near future;)

[Switek]

I guess it's still only speculation Tony. ;)

[corran.pl]

Krzesiny Air Base

http://images31.fotosik.pl/334/ed35406019ccb24f.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl)

http://images24.fotosik.pl/257/172f2a7a49edad2e.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl)

http://images30.fotosik.pl/256/e32ee81cbb1d0283.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl)

http://images31.fotosik.pl/334/24d6bfaaa8563914.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl)

http://images33.fotosik.pl/335/9e2f799641fecdc6.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl)

http://images32.fotosik.pl/327/334752fa4afb47bc.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl)

[~~~~]

are those greek jets?

[perdurabo]

dose anyone have pic of MiG29 and F-16 standing beside from front? (i'm looking it to show how high is airintake on both types... somehow drawings cant get into my friends head)

[marlowe]

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/779/28145gz2.jpg

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1863/73943lj4.jpg

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TS-11 ISKRA live shooting and aerobatics:
http://pl.youtube.com/v/1AfXFAf3trQ

[zapatero]

Nice pic of the SW-4. Anything new on the Polish-Korean barter agreement (T-50 against some SW-4)?

[marlowe]

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Polish Air Force Orlik Demo Team Loop Aerobatics:
http://pl.youtube.com/v/v0CtvDi6-Ak

[marlowe]

Parachuting out of...Mi-24:

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1010/90532919gv8.jpeg

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http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16gn9.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/

[marlowe]

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[wholagun]

NEWS






Poland to buy tactical airplanes from Finland?
Created: 04.12.2008 12:52Poland is engaged in talks with Finland to negotiate the purchase of tactical airplanes, according to the Minister of Defense, Bogdan Klich.

Poland’s air force needs 16 such planes and plans to purchase them as soon as 2013.

No definite decisions have been made, but talks are underway with Finland, and they are eager to cooperate with us, claims Klich.

The planes are advanced tactical aircraft – LIFT class (Lead In Fighter Trainer) Hawks – which make up a large part of the Finnish fleet.

http://www.polskieradio.pl/thenews/news/?id=97354

[corran.pl]

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2898291


Poland will buy Korean training jets

December 08, 2008
Polish President Lech Kaczynski expressed his intention Saturday to buy South Korean-built T-50 training jets, as well as his desire to cooperate with South Korea in nuclear energy development.

Kaczynski arrived in Seoul earlier on Friday for a two-day official visit to South Korea. Next year marks the 20th anniversary of the bilateral relationship between Poland and South Korea.

“Relations between our two states have been good for the last twenty years and this is the essence of my visit to Korea under the goal of consolidating our relations,” Kaczynski said.

Korea’s investment in Poland is the biggest among all Asian countries and the trade between Poland and Korea exceeds that between Poland and Japan, he noted.

“Now we hope to boost our exports to Korea while we have plans to buy the T-50 planes, which represent an excellent achievement for Korea,” said Kaczynski.

“We also hope to cooperate with Korea in the field of renewable energy, particularly nuclear energy, in which Korea is advanced.”

Poland is interested in stopping the development of nuclear programs in the Korean Peninsula, Kaczynski said, noting that the Pyongyang program of developing nuclear arms is not a domestic, but a global issue.

After summit talks with South Korean President Lee Myung-bak on Friday, Kaczynski met with Korean Prime Minister Han Seung-soo, received an honorary doctorate from Hankuk University of Foreign Studies and also visited the Demilitarized Zone before leaving South Korea Saturday.

[corran.pl]

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/5084/damianfigaj6rh5.jpg

Last F-16 delivered.

[wholagun]

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1633/16373dd1.jpg


That's different. I didn't think we would get the new helmets.

[corran.pl]

AFAIK it is helmet with JHMCS.

[madmike]

Great pics but... Army Aviation and Navy Aviation are not part of Polish Air Force...

[corran.pl]

We have two more C-295M delivered today.

[wholagun]

recently the Slovak Air Force chose the C-27 Spartan. Not going to lie I'm kinda jelous, its larger then our Casa. Lithuanian Air Force also uses C-27 as does the USAF
Any word from MON about ordering something larger then C295? I know we have the C130s coming in 2009. Out of curiosity is there any talk of ordering larger transporters - 130J or A400M
Also what is happening with the helicopter tender - has it even started?

C27

http://planesandchoppers.com.s3.amazonaws.com/3114.jpg

[wholagun]

Will our C-130E's have computerized avionics?



http://poland.usembassy.gov/uploads/sZ/Lz/sZLzKclk0DPcGFO98tKFlA/Odmladzanie-Herculesow2.jpg

http://poland.usembassy.gov/uploads/Pu/6z/Pu6zsrbwZspW9HabKbSwtQ/Odmladzanie-Herculesow1.jpg

[corran.pl]

C-27 is more expensive then C-295, we would bought 8 C-27 instead of 12 C-295.

11 C-295 and 5 C-130 will be just fine for now.

[corran.pl]

16.01.2009 will be the last day of service of An-26 in Polish Air Force. Poland has used total number of 12 An-26, two of them were sold to Ukraine in 1990 and 1991 - the founds were used to pay for overhaul of the remaining 10 aircrafts. 5 of the aircrafts were retired in 2005, 4 in 2008 and the las one in January 2009.

The An-26 was replaced by 12 C-295M (one of them was lost) leaving 11 aircrafts in service.



http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0609/0609100029.jpg


Goodbye.

[corran.pl]

Presentation about W-3 Sokół development - W-3 Sokół Plus and SW-5

http://aeronet.pl/pazdziernik_2008/22_5_PZL_Aeronet_Aviation-Valley.pdf

[mr_ffox]

Very intresting, specialy new procject SW-5 i hope PZL Swidnik will be ready with that before we decide for Mi8 Mi17 replacement. Great alternative for Sikorsky-PZL Mielec UH-60 Blackhawk, in my opinion SW-5 looks good and got back ramp for quick load/unload. Better support national and european industry at "crisis time" than sending a money overseas.

[marlowe]

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[Jimoch]

Hello I'm new on forum. I've few photos I made myself on Radom Air Show in 2007. Hope You'll enjoy it...
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5009/obraz047.th.jpg (http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=obraz047.jpg)
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7021/obraz051.th.jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=obraz051.jpg)
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6193/obraz057t.th.jpg (http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=obraz057t.jpg)
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http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5752/obraz066y.th.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=obraz066y.jpg)

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7126/obraz099.th.jpg (http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=obraz099.jpg)

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1808/obraz018.th.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=obraz018.jpg)
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http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7136/obraz026o.th.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=obraz026o.jpg)

[Ravage]

Hello, welcome and thanks for sharing =]

[tomdar]

before:
http://www.airfoto.pl/?module=Photos&action=Single&id_ph=74841&size=2

after :( (27.02.2009 22:12)
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9040/mi2401.jpg
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5158/mi2403.jpg

RIP [']

[xatumiller]

Another one of our helicopters has fallen...


RIP

[marlowe]

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http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6667/zdjecie234625874.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/pl/index/

[corran.pl]

First Polish made Black Hawk:

http://www.hej.mielec.pl/gfx/mwmstudio/pl/defaultgalerie/43/499/1/367110239.jpg
http://www.hej.mielec.pl/gfx/mwmstudio/pl/defaultgalerie/43/499/1/937055856.jpg
http://www.hej.mielec.pl/gfx/mwmstudio/pl/defaultgalerie/43/499/1/1508246112.jpg
http://www.hej.mielec.pl/gfx/mwmstudio/pl/defaultgalerie/43/499/1/2016518671.jpg
http://www.hej.mielec.pl/gfx/mwmstudio/pl/defaultgalerie/43/499/1/594686511.jpg

Skytrucks for US SOF
http://www.hej.mielec.pl/gfx/mwmstudio/pl/defaultgalerie/43/499/1/353644252.jpg
http://www.hej.mielec.pl/gfx/mwmstudio/pl/defaultgalerie/43/499/1/2103464361.jpg

[mr_ffox]

Nice PR job :)
Now we know who's trying to buy PZL Swidnik, to take control over all polish aviation companies :) And push another crap for Polish Army.

[Jimoch]

Well I've heard that our first "new" C-130E's will come to Powidz Airfield next week... The others will be recived up to september.
Am I mistaken or did they forgot to build up new hangars for those machines?

[perdurabo]

niece comparision
US workers in their "outfits"
http://poland.usembassy.gov/uploads/sZ/Lz/sZLzKclk0DPcGFO98tKFlA/Odmladzanie-Herculesow2.jpg
And Polish workers in theirs:
http://www.hej.mielec.pl/gfx/mwmstudio/pl/defaultgalerie/43/499/1/353644252.jpg

[peter.pl]

perdurabo it's repost :)
Now question - How it's possible I've just found that thread :o
Great photos :)

[tony6]

Nice PR job :)
Now we know who's trying to buy PZL Swidnik, to take control over all polish aviation companies :) And push another crap for Polish Army.
Well, I personally would like to have more US companies in our aviation sector.
They at least produce something modern and pay decent money.
How does it look in European companies we could clearly see in PZL Okecie. Never ever.

[corran.pl]

True, true.

[mr_ffox]

Well, I personally would like to have more US companies in our aviation sector.
They at least produce something modern and pay decent money.
How does it look in European companies we could clearly see in PZL Okecie. Never ever.

Time will show, who is right. PZL Mielec under UTC Menagement during past 2 years made ONE !!! frame for International Blackhawk, impresive !!! That was a life buissnes for American companies buying a PZL Rzeszow and PZL Mielec for a pennys. Got time, will wait for those gold mountains, and Great Aviation Valey.

[tony6]

You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
The fact that they managed to switch the production and to produce first BlackHawk airframe within 2 years in post-communist reality factory is really impressive.

[marlowe]

Polish C-130E (1501)
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1212/zdjecie239126450.jpg
Photo: http://www.wp.mil.pl/pl/index/

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[corran.pl]

http://www.wp.mil.pl/galeria/2391/zdjecie_2391_26450.jpg


Edit: I see. Repost.

[corran.pl]

http://m.onet.pl/_m/8ec275d23b3947b114b6b5a58e674868,21,1.jpg
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[zapatero]

Sweet looking bird! But will it work?:)

[peter.pl]

Sweet looking bird! But will it work?:)

We will see :)
when they will fly, in 2010 ?

[_Samez_]

We will see :)
when they will fly, in 2010 ?

today ~12:30 :)

[Jimoch]

Some photos of polish C-130 from WP

http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/21947/09324118.jpeg
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Edit: photos made by Bogdan Borowiak/PAP

[peter.pl]

today ~12:30 :)

Wow, no way ;)
I mean when they will flight to missions.

[wholagun]

no mid air refueling capability ?

[marlowe]

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Polish Air Force Su-22 Fitter-K:
http://www.youtube.com/v/QAlqr50cVB4

[corran.pl]

http://www.youtube.com/v/G4jkC7B3_W8

[corran.pl]

Transforming United States Air Forces in Europe and Empowering Poland
F-16s Fly East

Lt Col Christopher S. Sage, USAF*


In the international arena of strategic alliances, windows of opportunity for momentous change are rare and fleeting. Creation of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) at the start of the Cold War was one of them; the end of the Cold War and the global strategic environment following the terrorist attacks of 11 September 2001 (9/11) present the next opportunity. Poland stands out as an eager member of NATO and a strong supporter of US policy. Indeed, the Polish military recently took unprecedented steps to embrace Western concepts, training, and hardware.1 At the same time, United States Air Forces in Europe (USAFE) is tasked with broadening relations with new NATO nations in Eastern Europe, gravitating away from its significant Western European presence during the Cold War.2 Therefore, it is in the national interest of the United States to continue to transform USAFE by relocating US F-16s currently in Italy to new bases in Poland.

Strategic, military, and political interests for both Poland and the United States are aligning to make this move possible, but only for a short period of time. A staunch supporter of US foreign policy in Iraq and Afghanistan, having committed troops to both theaters, Poland is eager for US reciprocity.3 Hosting US fighters, combined with agreeing to base part of the United States’ ballistic missile defense (BMD) shield on its soil, will make Poland a stronger strategic partner in the region. Poland is currently upgrading its civil and military aviation infrastructure as F-16s continue to arrive, an acquisition made possible by an unprecedented foreign military sales deal coupled with US congressional loans and business investment.4 A US-friendly political environment persists in Poland as Russian rhetoric intensifies, but this situation could change as nationalistic voices sometimes critical of US policy get louder.

The Strategic Environment

The National Military Strategyof the United States of America (2004) addresses the importance of proper posturing and presence to assure our friends, enhance interoperability, and improve our ability to prosecute the global war on terror (GWOT). It also challenges combatant commanders to adjust troop levels to enable “multinational forces to act promptly and globally.”5 A decision to move F-16s into Poland would meet these objectives at a time when Russia is flexing its muscles, specifically at Poland, over controversy surrounding the BMD initiative. In 2002, through a program known as Poland Peace Sky, the Polish Air Force purchased 48 F-16s, thus ensuring hardware commonality, heightened interoperability, and in-depth training in US tactics and operational warfare.6 The initial cadre of Polish F-16 pilots is training at US bases until the Polish Air Force can stand up training of its own with the help of US instructor pilots serving as exchange officers.7 Poland’s emerging modern fighting force will put that nation on the leading edge of technology, able to respond regionally and globally under the NATO banner.

USAFE’s Theater Security Cooperation Program office published a directive in 2006 calling for stepped-up relations with Poland, including increased military-to-military cooperation and training with the goal of gaining air and base access, as well as building up the forces of our NATO ally.8 The larger strategic implications of establishing closer ties with Poland involve the embracing of changing European relationships and the quiet positioning of forces closer to Russia in the interest of strategic influence.9 Moving US forces further east will also disperse our strong presence in Western Europe, which could be crippled if governments deny the deployment of forces from their territory during unpopular wars.10

Conditions in Italy

Clearly a staunch supporter of US policy since the early days of the GWOT, Italy hosts thousands of service personnel, including the US Sixth Fleet, multiple Army posts, and air bases, as well as NATO’s Defense College and Southern Command. But governments change, and political and social attitudes less supportive of US foreign policy persist in some sectors of Italian society. These feelings became evident in 2006 when newly elected prime minister Romano Prodi was almost driven from power over the controversial decision to authorize the expansion of Camp Ederle in Vicenza.11 Opposition to an increased US presence garnered huge rallies numbering between 40,000 and 100,000 protestors.12 These same hostile elements within Italian society also present security and force-protection concerns to US commanders in Italy.

Aviano Air Base (AB), located in northern Italy, 75 miles north of Venice, hosts the 31st Fighter Wing, two operational squadrons of F‑16s, and approximately 1,700 personnel, not including dependents.13 On the local level, Aviano has its challenges. At the time of the base’s establishment in 1911 by the Italian Air Force, it was located in a rural area.14 Today, however, growing villages and towns surround Aviano, dividing it into seven separate geographic areas—a situation that poses logistical challenges as well as force-protection concerns.15 Limited real estate inside Aviano’s perimeter renders base housing virtually nonexistent.16

The base had a history of expeditionary fighter visits until the United States permanently relocated Air Force fighters from Spain in 1992. Tactical-training conditions have slowly deteriorated since their arrival, with increased airline operations across Europe and the Adriatic Sea having gradually degraded medium-altitude airspace used for air-to-air training.17 Moreover, low-altitude training suffers from population encroachment and political sensitivities—heightened by an incident involving a Navy EA-6B that caused a cable-car disaster in 1998—and for all practical purposes, air-to-ground training does not exist.18 Additionally, the absence of usable ranges in Italy prevents training with live ordnance, a skill critical to tactical fighters.19

The United States’ long-standing relationship with Italy has weathered the storm, but underlying challenges and concerns persist, which US leaders must mitigate to the best of their abilities. Although Italy will most likely continue to host large numbers of US forces, one can make the case for seizing the opportunity to move US fighters to a friendlier and less restrictive political environment in the Republic of Poland.

A Friend in Poland

A nation in transition, Poland eagerly threw off the chains of communism, quickly embraced Western ideals and institutions, and began a continuous program of military modernization. NATO rewarded its efforts in 1999 with alliance membership. A friend of the United States in the GWOT, supporting operations in both Iraq and Afghanistan with few or no restrictions, Poland even led the Multinational Division Central-South in Iraq from 2003 to 2007 and is currently considering sending more troops to Afghanistan.20 The Polish president recently stated that “it’s not a gesture. It’s an obligation. We are a member of an alliance. We feel it our duty to respond. . . . So we count on reciprocity.”21 At a time when the promised payback of Iraqi contracts never occurred and when the United States is asking more of Poland with regard to missile basing for the BMD shield, the president’s statement reflects a sentiment that his country is ready for quid pro quo in the form of bilateral security guarantees.22 Some analysts think that this will come in the form of Patriot missiles, but an equally assuring gesture of US commitment to Poland involves the proposed basing of two squadrons of US fighter aircraft.23 Such a move would help strengthen our NATO partner on the eastern frontier.

We could easily colocate fighter aircraft at current Polish F-16 bases undergoing world-class modernization as they continue to receive their new fleet of fighters through 2009.24 Sharing bases would accelerate training, benefiting both air forces while quickly integrating the new Polish squadrons at the operational and tactical levels within NATO. Poland’s excellent low-level flying routes as well as air-to-air and air-to-ground training ranges, including much-needed access to live-weapons ranges, would greatly enhance training for US pilots.25 As Gen Tom Hobbins, former USAFE commander, pointed out, “The traditional [Western] European civilian air traffic environment has drastically constrained our ability to train.”26 These constraints do not exist in Eastern Europe.

Basing two US squadrons with the accompanying support package, including families, would also benefit the local economy and enable the United States to affect Polish society through direct engagement. This integration should meet little resistance since the Polish people tend to be a homogeneous, pro-American society with little internal turmoil or conflict.27

Russia Responds

When Poland secured its F-16 contract from the United States, Russia immediately based new S-300 air defense systems in Belarus, leaving little doubt that moving US fighter squadrons into a country that borders Russian soil (Kaliningrad) would invoke a response.28 Such a proposed move, coupled with the current controversy over the BMD shield, requires the United States to tread cautiously and diplomatically.

That is, we must consider and skillfully mitigate the strategic risk that this action introduces to US and NATO relations with Russia. The United States should build on the fact that there are currently two US instructor pilots in Poland who are training Polish aircrews and frame the movement as a continuation and expansion of the agreed-upon training program. The United States could also associate the move with the current BMD initiative, presenting it as a related bilateral security agreement.

We need additional, careful calculation to gauge the Russian response. Aggressive Russian action could potentially destabilize the region, and Russia could remove itself from additional arms- and troop-limiting treaties, building on its recent suspension of the Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe.29 The US presence in Central Asia also prompted Russia to move troops and aircraft to a nearby Russian airfield in 2003.30 Based on this recent posturing, the United States and Poland should expect similar Russian responses to this plan.

Challenges

No doubt, the proposed move of fighters to Poland is ambitious and will face many challenges—especially the cost to American taxpayers. Locating our forces at a Polish base already undergoing modernization by the host country can mitigate the financial burden, but expected expenditures could possibly exceed $1 billion, the estimated price tag for the Army’s expansion in Italy.31

Other challenges include environmental concerns and decaying infrastructure left over from the Soviet era as well as poor logistical support in Eastern Europe.32 We also need to evaluate and improve the air-traffic-control infrastructure. Furthermore, quality-of-life issues could emerge because Polish living standards, though rapidly improving, still lag behind those of Western Europe. Also worth noting is the fact that recent public discourse in Poland revealed a split in opinion over the US BMD plan.33 Those who oppose BMD basing in Poland will no doubt attempt to block the arrival of US fighter squadrons by using similar arguments. Though daunting, these challenges can be overcome by relying on the United States’ experience with setting up bases in allied countries.

Conclusion

In an unstable post-9/11 world, Europe has experienced more stability than other regions, but the security environment in Eastern Europe continues to change. Gen Bantz Craddock, commander of European Command, is currently reevaluating a 2005 security plan that restructures current basing in Europe and reduces US troop levels from more than 110,000 to 60,000.34 One analyst remarks that troop levels must stay at a level high enough to send a “forceful message to allies and potential foes alike.”35 Moving F-16s from Aviano AB to Poland would send precisely this message, cementing US-Polish relations. It would also increase the interoperability of NATO allies flying the same weapon system, strengthen an emerging ally eager for our support, and enhance the combat capability of USAFE F-16 units by removing barriers to training prevalent in Western Europe. This proposal is a strategic move that would benefit the operational and tactical environments. We must act now since the window of opportunity will not remain open for long.
Source: http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/apj/apj09/spr09/sage.html

[marlowe]

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[marlowe]

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[lightfire]

Hehe, tomorrow Polish AF F-16 will have a good day for air battles.

http://www.airramstein.nato.int/bast_e.htm

^^^

That says mainly about the fly-bys, but in the program there's a scenario of 2 polish F-16s against USAF F-16s, which will also have to fight with against Lithuanian L-39ZA, Czech L159, danish F-16, and for the desert - against low flying Estonian An-2 :)

[Kusch]

A PolAF F-16 receives fuel from a USAF KC-135 assigned to the 100th ARW, RAF Mildenhall, during the NATO Baltic Air Sovereignty Training Event on April 7, 2009. Seven nations' air forces, participated in the event, which took place in the skies over Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania

http://sp.mil.pl/images/stories/zdjecia/efy/pol-f16-tank.jpg

[dersammler]

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polish hercules? how many do they have?

[Adax]

Currently - one (1). But we will have 5 of them.

As for the refuelling F-16 - thats fuc&*ing great, my new wallpaper :)! Thanks.

[dersammler]

ok. thanks for your answer!

[corran.pl]

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9775/cbacc0e6133ac60d.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cbacc0e6133ac60d.jpg)

[corran.pl]

http://img.airfoto.pl/my_img/b/77141.jpg

[zapatero]

http://img.airfoto.pl/my_img/b/77141.jpg
I suggest to move that pic to the "funny military pics thread" although it's actually pathetic. Doesn't the Polish Air Force have any hangars big enough for the C-130?

[flanker7]

Many Air Forces don't have hangars for large aircraft, except the maintainance ones, which is propably the case in the photo

[corran.pl]

Yes it's sopouse to be funny.

The hangar for C-130 is not ready yet in Powidz Air Base.

This is old Su-22 maintainance hangar.

http://mapy.google.pl/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=pl&geocode=&q=powidz+air+base&sll=52.025459,19.204102&sspn=9.645528,19.775391&ie=UTF8&ll=52.387525,17.835864&spn=0.002334,0.004828&t=h&z=18

[corran.pl]

http://www.youtube.com/v/AHOEoGRBu0w

[wholagun]

what is the unit cost of a single Polish F 16 in USD.

[marlowe]

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[peter.pl]

Why CASA has EUFOR mark ?

[corran.pl]

Becouse it was part of EUFOR Chad?

[zapatero]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1206/759088242_c56f0ad3f5_m.jpg

[SilentType]

what is the unit cost of a single Polish F 16 in USD.

Soon to be much less once the F-35 Nations start taking delivery and selling some of their F-16s.

[peter.pl]

Why CASA has EUFOR mark ?

Yeah, that was stupid. Sorry :bash:

[corran.pl]

what is the unit cost of a single Polish F 16 in USD.

I don't remeber very well but i saw a list off all equipment that was part of the contract (like 178 AIM-120C-5) and everything was with a price tag - F-16C was like 41 mln $, F-16D - 43$ (or something around this, I remember that D was more ex*****ve).

[marlowe]

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[corran.pl]

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[bcax]

i have read on news that all new hercules are in very bad technical situation and they will be only trainer aircraft :lol: soon all polish F16 would be too? lol
gratz to all polish americanophiles

[corran.pl]

****ing liberal media.

C-130 was flying yesterday.

[corran.pl]

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[Panchito12]

i have read on news that all new hercules are in very bad technical situation and they will be only trainer aircraft :lol: soon all polish F16 would be too? lol
gratz to all polish americanophiles

Those Herks came from USAF regular units. Material condition was close to perfect.

[daily666]

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8528/25271o.jpg

Seen this one live during the "touch and go" excercise when I was refuelling my car near EPGD.

[bcax]

TS 11 p-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joCB5y7b6QI

[corran.pl]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-mHhcNPXXs

[corran.pl]

Yesterday we had first flights of F-16 from 10 TFS with DB 110 RAPTOR pod.

[corran.pl]

Su-22UM Su-22UM3K


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[Elbs]

All pictures from www.31blot.mil.pl (http://www.31blot.mil.pl)

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[corran.pl]

Polish F-16s in Greece

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[Smok]

Mi-8 seen from my window.
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[BAF]

those new F-16's are some sweet looking birds :)

hey guys i saw the Polish demo team yesterday at an international Airshow here in belgium, have any of you got some pics of them?

[marlowe]

Yesterday we had first flights of F-16 from 10 TFS with DB 110 RAPTOR pod.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1657/57165384.jpg

Photo: Maciej Wolański

More pictures from Łask Air Base: http://www.jetstream.pl/web/galeria/33.F-16_Łask.html

http://www.youtube.com/v/ikselAnlqKs

[marlowe]

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[Panchito12]

^^^Are the Poles looking at training WSO/EWO to man those empty back seats of the D's?

[marlowe]

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http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/4162/photo34679.jpg

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/2927/photo34817.jpg


Su-22 emergency landing:

http://www.youtube.com/v/zMmcb-zvxyI

[marlowe]

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http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4931/33548.jpg

[Adax]

Good job, marlowe with the photo updates :)
Btw, anyone know when will arrive the second C-130?

[Jimoch]

Hi, I have read somewhere, that next C-130E should be delivered by the mid of September (well, today is 15th and no info's about it)
Marlowe, great pictures.
AFAIK the last photo (F-16, MiG-29, Su-22 in tight formation) was made in Radom Air Show, just hours before tragic accident of Belarussian Su-27 (R.I.P. to the brave pilots). My city is cursed (4 pilots dead in 2 years) and as I heard, there'll be no more Air Show...

I have not seen pictures of SW-4 for some time.

http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0906/0906140010.jpg

http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0906/0906140009.jpg

http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0906/0906140008.jpg

http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0906/0906140005.jpg

http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0906/0906140004.jpg

http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0906/0906140003.jpg

http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0906/0906140002.jpg

[sniffer]

My city is cursed (4 pilots dead in 2 years) and as I heard, there'll be no more Air Show...

Is this info confirmed? Or it's only rumours?

[Jimoch]

So far only rumours. Well I know, how the organizators feel... Imagine what will happen IF there will be another accident :(

[marlowe]

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/3263/34380.jpg

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http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/1048/35870.jpg

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2110/80847.jpg

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/8359/920941253141612.jpg

[daily666]

Absolutely fantastic pictures. Thanks a lot for posting them.

[Jimoch]

Hello, roumors that I heard about AS, were incorrect. According to TV Dami, Air Show will be announced in 2011. There were plans, that Show would be conducted in 2010, but this idea wasn't accepted by the Command of Polish Air Force. So... we have to wait only 2 years for another show.
Source in polish: http://www.telewizja.radom.pl/?str=2&nID=5636

[marlowe]

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1446/179471254855049.jpg

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/5678/266551254940920z.jpg

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http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/157/photo41166.jpg

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http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6660/735641255299240.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9814/80908.jpg

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4445/80910.jpg

[Jimoch]

Second C-130 came to Poland. This machine is "H" model, nr 72-1299, leased from USAF for about one year - due to problems with repairment of polish planes. This plane will have temporally polish markings.
Next C-130E of PAF is scheduled on january 2010.

http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/23304/09b02020.jpeg

http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/23304/09b02018.jpeg

http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/23304/09b02017.jpeg

http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/23304/09b02014.jpeg

http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/23304/09b02016.jpeg

http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/23304/09b02015.jpeg

source: http://wiadomosci.wp.pl/gid,11652136,title,Hercules-w-Polsce,galeria.html

Same machine - photograph from april, this year:

http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/2/8/9/8/20940_1253274898.jpg

And few years ago:

http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/1/3/3/2/96422_1221585233.jpg

http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/1/8/5/1/51191_1163845158.jpg

[shadowsrider]

Oh I've seen this Hercules in Okecie airport when going for some business trip. It is standing in government section.

[Jimoch]

Leased C-130E (not H, as I wrote before) will obtain tail number 1506. There are roumors, that PAF will lease another one or two C-130 from USAF, in favor of time shift of delivery of polish Herc's.

Ramstain Air Base said "farewell" to their last C-130E:

http://www.ramstein.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/091102-F-4212P-027.JPG

http://www.ramstein.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/091102-F-8084P-033.jpg

http://www.ramstein.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/091102-F-4212P-077.JPG

http://www.ramstein.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/091102-F-4212P-096.JPG

http://www.ramstein.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/091102-F-8084P-048.jpg

http://www.ramstein.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/091102-F-4212P-103.JPG

http://www.ramstein.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/091102-F-4212P-111.JPG

Source: http://www.ramstein.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123175732

72-1299 (1506) in Okęcie Air Port, Warsaw:

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1845&url=20091102143505a.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1845&url=20091102143458b.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1845&url=20091102143451c.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1845&url=20091102143407g.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1845&url=20091102143351h.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1845&url=20091102143343herc_leas1.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1845&url=20091102143334i.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1845&url=20091102143159o.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1845&url=20091102143137r.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1845&url=20091102143126s.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1845&url=20091102143114t.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1845&url=20091102143059u.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1845&url=20091102143039x.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/gals/red/1845/20091102143028y.jpg_m%28850x638%29

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1845&url=20091102143324j.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1845&url=20091102143249k.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1845&url=20091102143234l.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1845&url=20091102143210n.jpg

Source: http://lotniczapolska.pl/Hercules-wyladowal-na-Okeciu,9691

72-1299 (1506) in Powidz Air Base:

http://lotniczapolska.pl/image_big.inc.php?d=i/n&f=325ee2ad19b5c2d3d852c216cefa79231506_powidz.jpg_m%28800x800%29

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1850&url=20091103101852dsc02569.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1850&url=20091103101842dsc02578.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1850&url=20091103101812dsc02574.jpg

Source: http://lotniczapolska.pl/C-130E-nr-1506-juz-w-domu,9716

[marlowe]

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[Smok]

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/676/1582925.jpg

Great painting! 303'th squadron!!

[corran.pl]

this is Kościuszko squadron badge - the courent badge of 1st tactical fighter squadron

http://www.1elt.pl/

http://www.1elt.pl/images/morfeoshow/odlot_mig_29-6753/big/1110.JPG
http://www.1elt.pl/images/morfeoshow/poligon_2009-9239/big/DSC_5798.NEF.jpg

[21Ankush]

really love those Fitters ! and those Vipers look great too ! great pics..and the Fulcrum with its different camo looks nice too.

[Jimoch]

C-130E nr 1506 received its markings, and perform its first duties on polish sky.

Source: http://www.wp.mil.pl/pl/galeria/3043

http://www.wp.mil.pl/galeria/3043/zdjecie_3043_33148.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/galeria/3043/zdjecie_3043_33149.jpg

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http://www.wp.mil.pl/galeria/3043/zdjecie_3043_33154.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/galeria/3043/zdjecie_3043_33155.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/galeria/3043/zdjecie_3043_33156.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/galeria/3043/zdjecie_3043_33157.jpg

[ChrisBV]

Polish Vipers look awesome! :)

[Jimoch]

C-130E nr 1506 on "Rybołów 09" (Osprey 09) exercise:

http://wp.mil.pl/galeria/3052/zdjecie_3052_33258.jpg

http://wp.mil.pl/galeria/3052/zdjecie_3052_33259.jpg

http://wp.mil.pl/galeria/3052/zdjecie_3052_33260.jpg

http://wp.mil.pl/galeria/3052/zdjecie_3052_33261.jpg

http://wp.mil.pl/galeria/3052/zdjecie_3052_33262.jpg

http://wp.mil.pl/galeria/3052/zdjecie_3052_33263.jpg

http://wp.mil.pl/galeria/3052/zdjecie_3052_33264.jpg

http://wp.mil.pl/galeria/3052/zdjecie_3052_33265.jpg

http://wp.mil.pl/galeria/3052/zdjecie_3052_33266.jpg

http://wp.mil.pl/galeria/3052/zdjecie_3052_33267.jpg

http://wp.mil.pl/galeria/3052/zdjecie_3052_33268.jpg

http://wp.mil.pl/galeria/3052/zdjecie_3052_33269.jpg

http://wp.mil.pl/galeria/3052/zdjecie_3052_33270.jpg

http://wp.mil.pl/galeria/3052/zdjecie_3052_33271.jpg

http://wp.mil.pl/galeria/3052/zdjecie_3052_33272.jpg

Source: http://wp.mil.pl/pl/galeria/3052

Also, on monday, 23th November, early morning, on Wrocław Airfield, has landed C-17 Globemaster III nr 03 from NATO Heavy Airlift Wing. I'm posting some photos, because Poland is one of the participants of Strategic Airlift Capability Program. Few hours later, after taking equipment on board, plane took off to A-stan.
Co-pilot was flight lt. (por. pil.) Waldemar Długosz, and one of crew member was senior staff sgt. (st. sierż. szt.) Krzysztof Kwiecień from Polish Air Force.

http://lotniczapolska.pl/image_big.inc.php?d=i/n&f=89f62d3a24b155b8c3d796eaebfa9bc4c17_wroc.jpg_m%28800x800%29

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1962&url=20091123122253m_dsc_0282.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1962&url=20091123122245m_dsc_0283.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1962&url=20091123122237m_dsc_0294.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1962&url=20091123122228m_dsc_0318.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1962&url=20091123122219m_dsc_0321.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1962&url=20091123122200m_dsc_0337.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1962&url=20091123122142m_dsc_0351.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1962&url=20091123122124m_dsc_0391.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1962&url=20091123122058m_dsc_0404.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1962&url=20091123122046m_dsc_0438.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1962&url=20091123122037m_dsc_0447.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1962&url=20091123122012m_dsc_0487.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1962&url=20091123122001m_dsc_0511.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1962&url=20091123121950m_dsc_0513.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1962&url=20091123121938m_dsc_0520.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/gals/red/1962/20091123121919m_dsc_0558.jpg_m%28850x638%29

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1962&url=20091123121909m_dsc_0560.jpg

http://lotniczapolska.pl/imggal.php?path=gals/red/1962&url=20091123121901m_dsc_0585.jpg

Source: http://lotniczapolska.pl/Globemaster-we-Wroclawiu-%28zdjecia%29,10020?&pg=2#gal

[corran.pl]

I have been there and seen this C-17.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC4-IION9GM

[corran.pl]

Some photos:

http://militarypedia.corran.pl/wiki/Kategoria:09.11.23_-_C-17_SAC_we_Wroc%C5%82awiu

[Jimoch]

Polish Vipers over Spanish sky. "Squadron Exchange 2009"
source: http://www.mon.gov.pl/pl/artykul/8253

http://www.wp.mil.pl/pliki/Image/obrazki_do_artykul_aktualnosc/TLP_Hiszpania_2009/grec_001DD.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/pliki/Image/obrazki_do_artykul_aktualnosc/TLP_Hiszpania_2009/1259280895DD.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/pliki/Image/obrazki_do_artykul_aktualnosc/TLP_Hiszpania_2009/1259280939DD.jpg

http://www.wp.mil.pl/pliki/Image/obrazki_do_artykul_aktualnosc/TLP_Hiszpania_2009/1259281290DD.jpg

[Hydrant]

Whow....Pics of F-16 from previous page are fantastic. Polish air force looks very efficiently.

This one is exceptional :)

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/4246/366891257460787.jpg

[Mrufka]

Fresh vid Mig 29 from 1elt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3achwNRqWQ

[marlowe]

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6445/327281258402405.jpg

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http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2213/1609837.jpg

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/3891/photo42991.jpg

[Wachmistrz]

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2213/1609837.jpg



There's a plane standing behind the F-16. Is this a "Bryza"?

[Starblast]

yes sir! looks like it. note two propellers above viper.

[Jimoch]

C-130E #1506 first flight to Afghanistan:

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/4643/zdjecie311633861.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/8848/zdjecie311633862.jpg

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/8488/zdjecie311633863.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/48/zdjecie311633864.jpg

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/5345/zdjecie311633865.jpg

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3891/zdjecie311633866.jpg

Source: http://wp.mil.pl/

[Boyko_Borisov]

Great pix as always in this thread. Any recent photos of Polish Mi-14?

[daily666]

yes sir! looks like it. note two propellers above viper.

And a NAVY sign on the stabilizer.

[peter.pl]

Mi-14s are not part of Air Force. Wrong thread :)

[corran.pl]

Su-22 simulator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfBOarxlU4w

[Panchito12]

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6479/113891258582675.jpg




What up with the jet nozzles? Each is in a different setting.

[sniffer]

What up with the jet nozzles? Each is in a different setting.

It's normal in russian twin-engines aircraft. You can see it at Su-27SKM as well when taxiing:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Russia---Air/Sukhoi-Su-27SKM/0742871/M/

[Jimoch]

Polish Air Force participated in WOSP (The Great Orchestra of Christmas Charity). According to portal gazeta.pl the second most interesting activities were two auctions, where people could buy a one-day training (preperation, battle briefing etc.) and eventualy co-piloting polish Viper. Both auctions finished with total income of 38.200,00 zł (≈ € 8000,≈ $ 11.500)

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1356/3006221.jpg

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/4450/300622.jpg

Source (in polish): http://wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/Wiadomosci/1,80273,7426432,Top_10_najciekawszych_aukcji_WOSP.html

[Ksiunc]

nvm

delete post

[marlowe]

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2983/1550104.jpg

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/5430/1636172.jpg

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3111/271471253197274.jpg

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2032/photo44443.jpg

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http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1791/81795.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8233/40976.jpg

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6940/photo43444.jpg

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http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/2677/photo43328.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4949/1635093.jpg

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[Kusch]

Polish MiG-29 slow flight (afterburner on end), enjoy :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3achwNRqWQ

[Eye]

Some photos from last air force exercises.

link (http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/141221,21,0,0,1,pokaz.html)

[Starblast]

polish vipers refueling

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPdbRyP-46k&feature=player_embedded

[Regis]

110369110370110371110372110373
Polish C-130 after emergency landing
The damage is from the tree
tops that the aircraft flew through in an attempt to avoid a collision
into the mountain side. The aircraft experienced 4 Gs in the attempt
to avoid the crash. NDI inspections are underway to determine aircraft
salvage ability.

source: herkybirds.com

[corran.pl]

It is not exactly a Polish aircraft, it's US aircraft leased to Poland (because of delay in deliverers of Polish aircrafts).

The aircraft had some malfunction but crew somehow was able to save the aircraft (and, what is more important lives of people on board).Damage is a result of hi-G maneuvering.

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/5430/1636172.jpg

Same aircraft.

[corran.pl]

First "Polish" S-70i Black Hawk

http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/24155/20100315_black_hawk_pap450.jpeg

http://www.tvn24.pl/-1,1647744,0,1,czarny-jastrzab-wyfruwa-znbspgniazda,wiadomosc.html
http://finanse.wp.pl/kat,104596,title,W-Mielcu-prezentacja-smiglowca-Black-Hawk,wid,12076307,wiadomosc.html?ticaid=19d06

[Regis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMWAO1eGSAo
Squadron Exchange - Malbork 2010r

[peter.pl]

This Blackhawk has nothing common with Polish Air Force so why you are posting those pictures ?

[Regis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDVLBHq1mDE

Exercises Baltic Training Event V (http://www.32blot.wp.mil.pl/pl/99_183.html)

[Regis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAE2sMKHw1M

SW-4 and Mi-2 helicopters

[marlowe]

http://www.youtube.com/v/HznAtBHmSl0&feature=player_embedded

[Paintbro]

I spotted a deadly eagle claw kung fu master in this video. Are all polish F16 pilots trained in this style ?p-)

btw very nice vid

[Regis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TAIMkkXvdc


Air Policing 2010

[Boyko_Borisov]

^ awesome footage, 10x!

[Regis]

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squadron fighter exchange 2010

[bcax]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7x7KnIbGQk

US missile shield have arrived :)

[Regis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTQObwFRzEo

SB Lim-2 (MiG-15UTI Goraszka 2010