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"Royal-with-Cheese"
10-07-2006, 05:13 PM
Can anyone tell me something about this gun?

http://www.waffenzimmermann.ch/sites/pages/winchester/teil6/Winchster120An.jpg
kerfuffled
10-07-2006, 11:02 PM
A very nice looking gun but the hand loop thing is a little big?:)
4thPointOfContact
10-07-2006, 11:14 PM
Winchester 94, designed in 1894, various calibres but usually associated with 30.30 Winchester CenterFire and 44-40 WCF. Made famous in many western movies, the enlarged ring enabled faster cocking .....in the movies at least.

Not entirely sure why there would be a 120th anniversary edition - - other than to separate more money from more people. Gold inlay is a bit wasted on what is usually a utilitarian firearm.
Hollis
10-08-2006, 01:50 AM
Not entirely sure why there would be a 120th anniversary edition - - other than to separate more money from more people. Gold inlay is a bit wasted on what is usually a utilitarian firearm.


Exactly, Winchester makes commemoratives and people do collect them. Basically they are a "dolled" up model. 44-40 is not a bad round.
punchinout
10-08-2006, 02:24 AM
A very nice looking gun but the hand loop thing is a little big?:)

lol, you ever see any john wayne movies?? its made so that you can work the action faster, or with one hand, you can wheel it...i think it only works in teh movies. i've tried with my .30-30, it hurts. lever loop is too small. nice inlays onthe gun though.
gaijinsamurai
10-08-2006, 08:15 AM
My first deer rifle was a Winchester M94 .30-30. It lacks the range and punch of a bolt action, but is an excellent brush gun.
As far as the commemoratives go, Winchester has released dozens, to celebrate everything/one from Chief Crazy Horse and the Pony Express to John Wayne. Just an excuse to make more $$$ from hard-core collectors with money to burn.
"Royal-with-Cheese"
10-08-2006, 09:03 AM
thank you.

the reason why I'm asking is because I'm standing in front of the choice between that exact rifle on the picture (with some leather thing to put it on the wall though. Couldn't upload that picture for some reason).

and a Smith & Wesson revolver (.38 Special) that looks some what like this one but with wooden grips.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=11101&storeId=10001&productId=14780&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=15706&isFirearm=Y

(It would be a present BTW)

I was also wondering if you can load the 44-40 with .44 Magnum rounds?
Otsoa
10-09-2006, 05:42 AM
thank you.

the reason why I'm asking is because I'm standing in front of the choice between that exact rifle on the picture (with some leather thing to put it on the wall though. Couldn't upload that picture for some reason).

and a Smith & Wesson revolver (.38 Special) that looks some what like this one but with wooden grips.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=11101&storeId=10001&productId=14780&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=15706&isFirearm=Y

(It would be a present BTW)

I was also wondering if you can load the 44-40 with .44 Magnum rounds?

It would not be recommended to try to fire 44 magnum rounds out of 44-40. The two cartridges are two different beasts iirc. Even if they were compatible it would generally not be recommended due to the higher pressure from the 44 magnum cartridge. Love my Model 94 in 30-30 but buying a commemorative would be a waste imho. A firearm is meant to be shot, not hung on a wall to look pretty.
Durandal
10-09-2006, 10:01 AM
I thought they stopped making Model 94s. I know he plant closed last year.

Hmmm...
punchinout
10-09-2006, 02:36 PM
yea, the U.S. Repeating Arms Arms Company was shut down almost 6 or more months ago. I hear winchester was still producing some really special 94's in limited quantities. I haven't sold any in months, the only new condition 94's you'll see are at gun shows for exorbetant prices. I talked to a Winchester company rep at the Begining of August and he told me about some rumors circulating, a partnership with Remington or they were gonna move the Repeating Arms Company overseas. I know that there are still a ton of Winchester 1300 Defenders still out there, i keep gettin 'em and selling 'em but we won't have them in warehouse for verylong. but i read this today.

"On August 15, 2006, Olin Corporation, owner of the Winchester trademarks, announced that it had entered into a new license agreement with Browning to make Winchester brand rifles and shotguns, though not at the closed Winchester plant in New Haven; Browning has announced that production of any Winchester designs will be done overseas. Browning, based in Morgan, Utah, and the former licensee, U.S. Repeating Arms Company, are both subsidiaries of FN Herstal."

That's ****ty. A great American rifle like the 94 is now probably gonna be produced overseas. Belgians...oi vey.
Durandal
10-09-2006, 09:27 PM
That's ****ty. A great American rifle like the 94 is now probably gonna be produced overseas. Belgians...oi vey.

Well, your Springfields and Brownings (just to name a few of the many American firearms companies produce parts or the whole rifle over seas.

Nothing new really.
FallenAngel
10-09-2006, 09:57 PM
That's ****ty. A great American rifle like the 94 is now probably gonna be produced overseas. Belgians...oi vey.

It should be noted that Winchester had been losing money for over a decade, hence why FN was able to buy it in the first place.

It'll be years before the '94 is produced overseas (if at all).
punchinout
10-10-2006, 03:38 AM
Well, your Springfields and Brownings (just to name a few of the many American firearms companies produce parts or the whole rifle over seas.

Nothing new really.


Yea, my Springfield was made in Brazil, i can't complain. i've just always thought of the Winchester lever actions as something completely American that would never change. But...the whole global economy thing has to come into it at some point.